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Carlota69 08-02-2011 03:23 PM

Zach Miller to Seattle
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-zach-miller/

LOL--How in the hell Do I edit the title?--just a little bit of a typo going on there..lmao Ok--got it.

Sofa King 08-02-2011 03:24 PM

What?

RealSNR 08-02-2011 03:25 PM

Did you assign your cat to post this thread?

spida_man23 08-02-2011 03:25 PM

i don get it

RealSNR 08-02-2011 03:26 PM

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...iiiiiiiiii.gif

Carlota69 08-02-2011 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7796145)
Did you assign your cat to post this thread?

You would think..I am typo queen, but that was pretty bad...

rageeumr 08-02-2011 03:26 PM

I blame the repost police.

Carlota69 08-02-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7796147)

ROFL Yeah yeah...

Anyways, to the point--Zach says Bye bye to the Raiders ;-)

Carlota69 08-02-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 7796149)
I blame the repost police.

You could be on to something...:hmmm:

Hammock Parties 08-02-2011 03:29 PM

It's pandemonium!

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakl...message-board/

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There goes half of our offense
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And just so I have our Free Agency strategy straight....we overpay for our second tier players like Route and Wimbley....and we let our two best Free Agents skip town? Ok Got it.
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Looks like al Davis was not happy with our 8-8 season. No worries al. We'll be back to 4-12 so you can be satisfied.

Carlota69 08-02-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7796160)

I love how mad they are at Cable--these threads are gold!

Hammock Parties 08-02-2011 03:38 PM

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Miller had better hands but Myers is a much better blocker. In a game against Denver he blocked the LB out of the play then pulled off and took out the safety too allowing McFadden to score a TD.

Hurts losing Miller but if you go from Raiders to Seahawks you have a loser mentality and that is a weakness. We are building a bully and don't have room for weak players like Gallery and the others who gave up when the going got rough. I laugh at them because even in the weak ass NFC West they will still be losers!
LOL

Carlota69 08-02-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7796184)
LOL

The threads in there are full of that kind of mentality..Like how could anyone possibly think of leaving the RAIDERS??? Such a class act of an organization...and they are certian they are going to sign high quality cuz who wouldnt want to play for Al Davis??? ****ing pricelss stuff.

the Talking Can 08-02-2011 03:47 PM

great news

wazu 08-02-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7796160)

Seeing the sites that other fans have to get by with always makes me sad, even when they are Raider fans. Time to donate to Chiefsplanet.

Saul Good 08-02-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7796160)

I couldn't find any Zach Miller info on that site. Somebody needs to start a thread or 40 about him.

Saul Good 08-02-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Forum (Post 7796230)
Angry honestly..fuk the raiders

fuk stupid al
fuk our stupid o-line
fuk that we draft nothing but cb
fuk that we cant retain our best players
fuk our ugly stadium
fuk our over payed players
fuk out deffensive corrdinator
fuk that we draft nothing but speed
fuk that no one wants to play for oakland
fuk that we dont have a gm
fuk our jok asss franchise

sad part is that this season i'll watch every raider game and wont stop comig on rf.net.i'll probably even buy me a new jersey this weekend..sucks to be a raider fan but w.e!i'm good looking and get girls!lol..sorry guys had to vent

Best post ever. Oh yeah, that's the OP of the thread.

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakl...k-raiders.html

Hammock Parties 08-02-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7796230)
I couldn't find any Zach Miller info on that site. Somebody needs to start a thread or 40 about him.

I'm banned.

Hammock Parties 08-02-2011 04:05 PM

LOL

**** stupid al
**** our stupid o-line
**** that we draft nothing but cb
**** that we cant retain our best players
**** our ugly stadium
**** our over payed players
**** out deffensive corrdinator
**** that we draft nothing but speed
**** that no one wants to play for oakland
**** that we dont have a gm
**** our jok asss franchise

Old Dog 08-02-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7796236)
I'm banned.

I find that hard to believe, LOL

Hammock Parties 08-02-2011 04:06 PM

Zach Miller contract: 5 years, $34 million, including $17 million guaranteed

Saul Good 08-02-2011 04:06 PM

They have a "bag over head" emoticon. That site is fan****ingtastic.

wazu 08-02-2011 04:11 PM

Imagine if we just let Brandon Flowers and Dwayne Bowe walk during free agency, which is also the first week of training camp, and didn't replace them with anybody. How maddening would that be? Thank you, Al. Please live forever.

Saul Good 08-02-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wazu (Post 7796250)
Imagine if we just let Brandon Flowers and Dwayne Bowe walk during free agency, which is also the first week of training camp, and didn't replace them with anybody. How maddening would that be? Thank you, Al. Please live forever.

That guy really is awful. It's amazing that he was able to field an 8 win team last year. It won't happen again any time soon.

ToxSocks 08-02-2011 04:34 PM

I'm disappointed the Eagles didn't sign him. And Abrayo Franklin. Way to drop the ball, Philly.

Backwards Masking 08-02-2011 04:47 PM

Good job Al! Hopefully medical science progresses enough in the next few years to keep you alive and running this thing far into the future!

Demonpenz 08-02-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7796283)
I'm disappointed the Eagles didn't sign him. And Abrayo Franklin. Way to drop the ball, Philly.

they have celek

ReynardMuldrake 08-02-2011 05:21 PM

Damn, between Denver's ****ups and Oakland shooting itself in the foot again, I'm liking our chances this year.

ToxSocks 08-02-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 7796343)
they have celek

So. They have Asante and DRC but they still signed Nnamdi.

Ugly Duck 08-02-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7796239)
Zach Miller contract: 5 years, $34 million, including $17 million guaranteed

That was a mistake to let him go. Al Davis didn't want to pay that high just cuz Zach has had 3 concussions in the past 2 seasons. Lotsa players get their brains a little smushed on occasion. Bad move. This offseason Oakland has lost its premier CB, its best O-lineman (yes, even though Gallery was just a guard), and now its most prolific receiver.

MoreLemonPledge 08-02-2011 06:49 PM

But CP told me he would be a Chief...

Frosty 08-02-2011 06:56 PM

I'm glad Miller left Oakland (hate that guy). It's odd that Seattle would sign him, though, as they have a good young TE in Carlson.

Ugly Duck 08-02-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 7796619)
I'm glad Miller left Oakland (hate that guy). It's odd that Seattle would sign him, though, as they have a good young TE in Carlson.

They wanted him bad enough to pay him $7 mil per year - with $17 mil guaranteed. Maybe they want to trade Carlson? Oakland is now considering a move for Kevin Boss, but can't give him anything near what Miller just got. Dude has had almost as many concussions as Miller, hands not as good as miller, but is a helluva blocker. Downgrade:

VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur

Boss said on Sirius radio he wants to come to #Raiders. Miller underrated blocker, so tiny edge to Boss there; no comparison catching ball.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 08-02-2011 07:15 PM

Since I am the one who reported it here first, you should re-read what was posted. I never guaranteed a signing. Just reported it was merely a conversation. As you can now see, the money that Zach made was just too rich for Scott's tastes.



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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7796606)
But CP told me he would be a Chief...


booger 08-02-2011 07:19 PM

AZ would have been a great fit for Miller but i imagine they never really seriously considered it with the money they will spend on a Fitz contract.

ReynardMuldrake 08-02-2011 07:20 PM

Pitchforks! Get 'yer pitchforks here!
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This is a mfken joke ...I have been a raiders fan since 1970 ,right now ..AL YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU ARE A JOKE AND ARE MAKING OUR TEAM IN YOUR OLD IMAGE !!!MYBE THE MEDIA HAS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT YOU ALL ALONG ...WELL MY BLINDERS ARE OFF NOW !!!
it is bad enough that we lost our best defensive player ...
now we loose Miller too!!!!! TO THE SEAHAWKS ....REALLY !!!! THAT IS BAD WHEN MILLER OPENLY WANTED TO RETURN AND YOU LET HIM GO TO THE SEAHAWKS !!!
Every time we start to go somewhere and actually look like a team you do something really really stupid !!!
I am not gonna renew my season tickets ...nor are anyone of my friends !!
I hope you enjoy a stadium with only 10000 people to watch ..you have destroyed this team and I will not ,can not and won't support a team that you are destroying !!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! TIME TO RISE UP AND BOYCOTT !!! I will not get my season tickets nor will I spend a single dollar on the raiders until you get your head out of your ass ....
I LOVE THIS TEAM AND YOU HAVE DESTROYED IT
... Now it's time for you to see that your fans are not happy ...this IS our TEAM as much as yours !!

Hammock Parties 08-02-2011 07:23 PM

Based on a phone interview I had with Zach Miller, it sounds like the Raiders coaching staff and teammates were reaching out in a way owner Al Davis did not.

Bottom line is the Raiders took care of the unrestricted free agents Davis thought most important and showed them the (guaranteed) money _ Kamerion Wimbley ($29 million), Richard Seymour ($22.5 million) and Stanford Routt ($20 million). Miller got $17 millon guaranteed from Seattle, so it’s safe to assume Oakland was offering less.

Some of Miller’s thoughts:

–“Coach (Tom) Cable gave me a call Saturday morning and saw I wasn’t signed yet, kind of feeling the Raiders would have done it by then. He said, `We want you here and I’m going to make a push to get you here.’

“I took a visit, and my wife and I just loved it. I’m still kind of blown away about what an an amazing place it is and we feel it’s the best fit.”

– “Football’s a business and I know that first-hand. When I was going into the last year of my rookie deal I was hoping to get extended and get a long term contract and it didn’t happen. Then the season ended and was expecting a deal and it didn’t happen, either.

“Throughout the process I was expecting it and it just never happened. I thought I’d get an extension and it never materialized.”

In the end, it didn’t matter how many times Hue Jackson, tight ends coach Adam Henry or teammates called to tell Miller how much he was wanted. Davis simply was not going to pay a tight end the same kind of money he was for a pass rusher, an established potential Hall of Fame defensive tackle and a speedy cornerback.

And Miller and the two best hands in the organization are now in Seattle.

Hammock Parties 08-02-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by warispeace (Post 7796661)
This is a mfken joke ...I have been a raiders fan since 1970 ,right now ..AL YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU ARE A JOKE AND ARE MAKING OUR TEAM IN YOUR OLD IMAGE !!!MYBE THE MEDIA HAS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT YOU ALL ALONG ...WELL MY BLINDERS ARE OFF NOW !!!
it is bad enough that we lost our best defensive player ...
now we loose Miller too!!!!! TO THE SEAHAWKS ....REALLY !!!! THAT IS BAD WHEN MILLER OPENLY WANTED TO RETURN AND YOU LET HIM GO TO THE SEAHAWKS !!!
Every time we start to go somewhere and actually look like a team you do something really really stupid !!!
I am not gonna renew my season tickets ...nor are anyone of my friends !!
I hope you enjoy a stadium with only 10000 people to watch ..you have destroyed this team and I will not ,can not and won't support a team that you are destroying !!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! TIME TO RISE UP AND BOYCOTT !!! I will not get my season tickets nor will I spend a single dollar on the raiders until you get your head out of your ass ....
I LOVE THIS TEAM AND YOU HAVE DESTROYED IT ... Now it's time for you to see that your fans are not happy ...this IS our TEAM as much as yours !!

http://www.nflgridirongab.com/wp-con...raider_fan.jpg

mlyonsd 08-02-2011 07:38 PM

Wonderful news. At lunch today my raider fan buddy was laughing at me saying Miller was just in Seattle enjoying a free meal.

Can't wait for tomorrow.

Bowser 08-02-2011 07:39 PM

Great news. Guy was a good player; good to see him in the NFC.

TheGuardian 08-02-2011 08:04 PM

The Raiders are building a bully? With what? That teams is ****ing garbage. Cable schemed well against teams he saw twice a year. He's gone now. They are about to get our red and yellow feet broke off in their ass.

BossChief 08-02-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7796234)
Best post ever. Oh yeah, that's the OP of the thread.

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakl...k-raiders.html

THE ANTI KNOWMO
passionate about his team and continues to watch them NO MATTER WHAT

(though I have a feeling it was just GoChiefs trolling their asses.)

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7796606)
But CP told me he would be a Chief...

Reading comprehension problem?

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Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 7796656)
Since I am the one who reported it here first, you should re-read what was posted. I never guaranteed a signing. Just reported it was merely a conversation. As you can now see, the money that Zach made was just too rich for Scott's tastes.

Seems to me Pioli may have been on the phone with Millers agent and drove the price on him through the rook hoping it would hurt the Raiders and then Seattle came in and decided it was worth the risk.

Sad, Denver and Oakland will both be in the running for Andrew Luck.

Poor guy.

CrazyPhuD 08-02-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7796234)
Best post ever. Oh yeah, that's the OP of the thread.

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakl...k-raiders.html

LOL nah that doesn't compete with this post.....it's the sticky at the top of the page!

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakl...-everyone.html

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Wishing death upon Al Davis or anyone else on this site will not be tolerated. Any poster that states that so & so should die for any reason, or express joy if death were to happen WILL BE BANNED for a period of no less than 6 months!!!

RealSNR 08-02-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7797171)
Sad, Denver and Oakland will both be in the running for Andrew Luck.

Poor guy.

Could have been chilling out in Carolina. Winds up carrying a gun to football practice in Oakland. And that's just walking to and from his car.

Better be some ****ing glorious architecture degree.

Hammock Parties 08-03-2011 02:06 AM

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MoreLemonPledge 08-03-2011 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7797359)
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This was ****ing hilarious.

Well done, as usual.

Hammock Parties 08-03-2011 02:23 AM

:LOL:

http://i53.tinypic.com/wgwz02.jpg

Ugly Duck 08-03-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7797171)

Sad, Denver and Oakland will both be in the running for Andrew Luck.

You really think that Oakland, the team that swept you last season, is contending for the worst team in football with Denver? You were swept by the worst team in the league? Nah - you don't really believe that. The Miller loss hurts a bit less by picking up TE Kevin Boss from NY (already worked out & near to signing). That'd be an awfully long way to fall - from sweeping the division to worst team in the entire league....

Hammock Parties 08-03-2011 08:42 PM

Kevin Boss is an average tight end. Without a Pro Bowl QB and elite offense around him he's going to be a giant bag of meh.

Raiders 4-12

Mr. Laz 08-03-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 7796619)
I'm glad Miller left Oakland (hate that guy). It's odd that Seattle would sign him, though, as they have a good young TE in Carlson.

some people believe 2 tightends is a good thing ... like payton manning.

of course Chiefs fans hate it, but then again they are smarter about NFL offense than Manning.

beach tribe 08-03-2011 10:44 PM

They couldn't ****ing re-sign him, and they are STILL over the cap IIRC.

LMAO. way to build a WINNAR

ReynardMuldrake 08-03-2011 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7797368)

I need to spread some rep around, but that is some funny shit.

ReynardMuldrake 08-03-2011 11:21 PM

http://i.imgur.com/xpDvT.jpg

Hammock Parties 08-03-2011 11:46 PM

LOL

epic meme...your work?

Rausch 08-03-2011 11:51 PM

Black-Crowes-Raider-Fan is now infamous.

Poor bastard...

Ugly Duck 08-04-2011 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7799573)
Raiders 4-12

Oakland plays 6 AFCW games. Thats 6 wins right there. At least, thats how its been lately....

BigRock 08-04-2011 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7797359)
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http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4206/raidersv.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2483/jockass.jpg

kepp 08-04-2011 07:52 AM

But who is McGraw going to cover now?

Ugly Duck 08-04-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 7800455)
But who is McGraw going to cover now?

New York Giants in danger of losing free-agent TE Kevin Boss, who works out for Oakland Raiders

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/20...celebrates.jpg

The salary-cap strapped Giants were on the verge of taking another free-agent hit Wednesday night, when tight end Kevin Boss worked out for the Oakland Raiders.

According to reports, the 27-year-old Boss was impressive in his workout for Raiders coach Hue Jackson and he was still at their camp in Napa, Calif., late Wednesday night. Boss was expected to take a physical, too. It was not immediately known if he was ready to sign a deal.

The Raiders appeared ready, though, one day after they lost their old tight end, Zach Miller, to the Seattle Seahawks. Miller and the 6-6, 253-pound Boss were considered the best tight ends

Kevin Boss to Raiders negotiations in "high gear" and went "late into the night"

Boss has more TD's in 3-years than Miller in 4-years. Miller was Raiders first option, Boss was NYG 4th/5th option.

wazu 08-04-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 7801288)
Boss has more TD's in 3-years than Miller in 4-years. Miller was Raiders first option, Boss was NYG 4th/5th option.

Boss is a solid pick-up, but a steep downgrade from Miller, at least as far as the passing game is concerned. Still, considering that the Miller thing is over and done, it has to make you feel better about the situation. (Assuming it gets finalized.)

Saul Good 08-04-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 7800168)
Oakland plays 6 AFCW games. Thats 6 wins right there. At least, thats how its been lately....

That's an interesting coping mechanism for a fan of a bad team that just lost 3 of its best 5 players.

Ugly Duck 08-06-2011 01:50 AM

Raiders signed Boss for half of what Zach Miller got from Seattle:

ESPN Raiders, Kevin Boss sign deal

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The New York Giants lost a key player when tight end Kevin Boss signed with the Oakland Raiders on Friday. Boss signed a $16 million, four-year contract with the Raiders. The deal includes $8 million in guarantees. The Raiders, who were looking for a tight end after losing Zach Miller to the Seahawks, announced the deal.

"It's disappointing," Giants coach Tom Coughlin said. "We were very much involved. But the decision is the decision. We wish him well." Boss, who worked out for the Raiders Wednesday, was fifth in receptions last season with 35 catches for 531 yards and five touchdowns. The 6-foot-6 player was one of Eli Manning's most trusted targets and had caught a total of 16 touchdowns the past three seasons.

Boss, who caught 119 passes with 18 touchdowns in four seasons with the Giants, gives the Raiders a 6-foot-6, 235-pound downfield target. He also won a Super Bowl ring with New York in his rookie season. Losing Boss hurts because he provides Manning with a tall safety valve across the middle.

Hammock Parties 08-06-2011 01:59 AM

That's because Boss is half the player nitwit.

MoreLemonPledge 08-06-2011 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7805174)
That's because Boss is half the player nitwit.

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milkman 08-06-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7799648)
some people believe 2 tightends is a good thing ... like payton manning.

of course Chiefs fans hate it, but then again they are smarter about NFL offense than Manning.

Sorry, where are those posts that discuss how Chiefs fans hate 2 TE sets?

Ugly Duck 08-06-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7805174)
That's because Boss is half the player nitwit.

Neither one is a player nitwit. They're both bright young men & two of the top TEs that were available. Boss is the better blocker, Zach is the better receiver, but they sure as heck ain't player nitwits.

ChiefsCountry 08-06-2011 11:25 AM

CoMo has a stiffy for Boss, and he signs with the Raiders. So this will turn out great.

BigMeatballDave 08-06-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7799648)
some people believe 2 tightends is a good thing ... like payton manning.

of course Chiefs fans hate it, but then again they are smarter about NFL offense than Manning.

:spock:


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