Warren signs with Donks
 

Film @ 11

what?

****ing bullshit.

Details?

Wow. Get used to the basement, Ty.

Everyone is slipping away.

The **** would he do that?

Broncos pick up Ty Warren

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 2, 2011, 10:07 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.word...ren2.jpg?w=160 APFor the second straight year, the Broncos are giving a recently released Patriots defensive lineman good money.
Denver just hopes Ty Warren makes the team, unlike Jarvis Green last year.
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports Warren agreed to terms on a two-year, $10 million contract. $2.5 million is guaranteed. (It’s unclear if that’s Warren’s entire first year sum.)
While Warren struggled to stay healthy recently for the Patriots, he was one of the most unsung players for New England over the last decade. His play didn’t decline much when he was on the field.
The Broncos badly needed to add numbers to their defensive line, and they have done it in bulk in recent days with Warren, Marcus Thomas, Brodick Bunkley, and Derrick Harvey.

I hope that hip is ****ed.

Warren matching up with Richardson should be a good matchup to look forward to.

Well the Broncos had to get a deal done eventually.

I'm sure Warren will play DT for Denver

Tebow will heal his broke dick. THen spit

If he turns out to be good again, then all it will do is keep Denver out of the Luck sweepstakes. If he turns out to suck, then HAHA!

I be the idea that he was headed to KC just scared the living shit out of them.

Really sucks. He should've gone to texas. Fatass.

This is hilarious.

CP before Warren signed with the Broncos: "I hope we(chiefs) sign him. A line of Dorsey, Gregg, and Warren would be pretty stout against the run."

CP after Warren signed with the Broncos: "I hope his hip is ****ed." LOL

I see nothing wrong with that.

What was stupid was the board going into meltdown friday when FA had been open 3 hours and we hadn't done anything. Duh.

Typical CP... Its truly a :facepalm: memory we have here...

Guess he wants to lose

FYP

Seems consistent to me. We hope he's good for us but not for the Broncos. What's confusing here?

Nothing its just hilarious seeing how the pendulum can swing from potential like to instant hate.

It's funny what signing on with a POS organization like the Broncos can do.

There are 146 members viewing the forum at this time. If you add all those for & all those against you wouldn't come close to that number. & there are far more active posters than 146

I might instantly hate you if you don't feel the same way.

Oh **** the Broncos and **** Ty Warren :D

I ****ing love you.

Well F him then.

Filthy Donkey bastard probably engages with coitus with persons of his same sex and shared dna.

Its the jilted lovers syndrome... Pretty common among junior high girls...

:hmmm:

WE DIDN'T WANT YOU ANYWAYS! HAHA, JOKE'S ON YOU!

The idea of us signing him ALWAYS came with the caveat that his hip would be good to go.

Once he signed with Denver, I stated that I hope his hip is ****ed.

I dont see whats so hard to understand about that.

I have positived repped over 600 different active posters & had to give up. They keep coming. The number that actually weigh in on any given topic is so minute it's like a flea on Mount Rushmore.

I hate ty warren.


now.
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thanks for the most original observation anyone has offered since those ruminations on the quality of airplane peanuts.

I love them until I hit Colorado air. Then...nothing.

Ty Warren can go eat a d*ck.

To Ty Warren the former Patriot: you were a very solid player. Thank you for your service.

To Ty Warren the new Bronco: go **** yourself in the ass with a rusty crowbar.

There are a few teams I like. There are a whole lot of teams I'm ambivalent about. But there are a handful of teams I detest: Denver, Oakland, San Diego, Baltimore, and the Jets. Anywhere but those five. Goddamit, Warren...

**** you, Ty. I hope your children are sodomized by a 400 lb man.

You're a good Pats fan. Chiefs first.

Chiefs + Pats, best friends forever

I already have an instinctive negative response to the Jets after a year of spending time here, it's hilarious.

IN PIOLI WE TRUST!!!!

C'mon, Chiefs fans - he's dicked up this FA period. It's really okay to admit it.

A perfect LB for our scheme just signed a 1 year deal. The 'cap killer' NT with significantly more upside than the old guy we just signed also signed a 1 yr deal.

Meanwhile Pioli's going on radio shows and telling us that everything's going to be okay because not everyone has released all the players they're going to release yet.

THANK GOD! THE 55TH MAN ON A BUNCH OF ROSTERS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO US SOON!

Suddenly we have a D-Line.

I sent the PM containing the secret society information. :D

Hey, Pioli is a heavily decorated and praised GM, and Clark has provided him, according to Pioli's own words, with all of the resources that he's asked for. Thus, if he thinks we shouldn't sign any of these players, we should believe him.

After all, I'm sure Scott has taken a gander at the schedule and might have a clue about our current personnel, right? Or are we to believe that he's oblivious to both?

This is really going to be an interesting year. We have the '09 disaster, an over-achieving team in '10, and now a condensed '11, when the most prepared and most savvy front offices should sign (LMAO. Hell of a typo. Shine. Perhaps "sign" is more apt?).

We'll have much to analyze at the end of the year.

There has to be a reason why NOBODY wanted either player you are referencing.

Its stupid to blame Pioli for taking a pass on them, when everybody else did as well.

I am assuming you are talking about Franklin and Lawson....

All either player could get was a 1 year deal for teams that run systems that aren't anything like ours.

If we return to the playoffs and look to be further improved, would you fairly say that he made the correct moves?

Ill gladly concede that if we miss them, he made a mistake in not adding more talent to this roster when we had a chance to.

IMO, the last two drafts and last years free agency period (that almost nobody was content with) have bought Pioli the "benefit of the doubt" for the time being.

I hope he doesnt make me regret it.

There had to be a reason why nobody wanted Kelly Gregg.

See - I can play that game too.

Lawson would've been an ideal fit for this defense; look at his scouting report, look at his performance in general. He's an absolutely ideal Ted.

And you can just stop talking about Franklin now. You went from beating your chest about how stupid we'd be to give him a long term deal to some nonsensical bleating about how clearly he was a bad signing if he went so cheap. Weren't you also yammering about how he's only a contract year player?

Think maybe a 1-yr deal for a guy like that might get him motivated a bit?

Just keep spinning. Those guys would have both done a hell of a lot of good for our defense. Alas, the cap salary floor doesn't go into effect until 2013 and Clark is his daddy's son.

Be prepared for another 2 years of being the KC Cheaps. Revel in the reputation - we've earned it.

What a joke.

If he can teach the rest of the Broncos that trick... they might be out of the Luck race....

I will trust Pioli's football acumen LONG before anyone here.

LMAO at the arrogance of those who think they know better.

Maybe you do. If that's the case, then way aren't you working in the NFL? Scout. Player Personnel? Water boy?

:)

Harbaugh from the Ravens publicly said they wanted Gregg back and had an offer on the table for him...but we outbid them for his services.

The Jets also had an offer on the table that Harbaugh was aware of that he referenced...thats two playoff teams with superbowl aspirations.

I think Lawson would have been a good signing as strictly a player...but nobody here knows why NOBODY wanted him and he was forced to take a lowball deal from a lowball franchise....all Im saying is there is OBVIOUSLY something out there that made teams stay away. Not sure why you got mad about that, but whatever...I guess some here get a little too emotionally invested into disliking Pioli and falling in love with their own takes on players.

That whole paragraph about Franklin is crap. NFL teams obviously dont agree with you on this, not just poor old Pioli and his cheapass handler.

You are right though, I will stop talking about Franklin now....he only got a 1 year deal from a 4-3 team...even when other guys like Barry Coefield got big money long term contracts with 3-4 teams. FTR he was on a 1 year deal last year when he shit the bed...a one year deal worth almost 8 million dollars and if he showed up and proved he was worth it, he might have made 50 million on a long term contract with the Redskins....he didnt and he had to settle for another year of "prove it"

Lamar Hunt pushed the salary cap limit almost every year.

Nice job pissing on his grave though.

classy

From what I hear the new FA rules are creating a glut of talent. The players are getting as nervous about snagging a job as we are about snagging players, and the Front Offices are winning this game of chicken. Obviously it's not that simple in every situation but the market has a certain bias this year.

they just didn't want us to get him. I hope that injury keeps him ****ed up

classy stuff. You guys will be good this year though..so I would be worried if I were you.

He said he wanted to play for a contender.

NE didn't seem to need him and their defense wasn't that great last year.


He will probably improve Denver's defense since it was horrific to begin with.


I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

looks like the broncos offered the most cash....

And all this time, I was thinking he was edumacated.

All it takes is a Bronco or Raider uniform.

*slow clap*

Not so much that I hate Warren at this point for being a Donk. More that I hate the fans that will be cheering for him... so guilt by association more than anything.

DIAF Warren.

For vet minimum too ROFL Money always talks.

I think it's a good signing, if he is healthy - then he's far from over the hill and has a few years left. I like the 'mass' they've brought in to help fix the DL and while building through the draft and being young is ideal, it's a good move. It will depend on how they adjust and what Fox does with them.

There's no doubt that he can help, the question is ... what does he have left and can he be healthy all season.

It's a signing they had to make. We'll see how it works out. Definately better than the trash Denver signed the last several offseasons on the DL.

You cant make shit like this up... I hope to God you are not on the edge of your bed thinking about eating a bullet because we didnt sign this guy?

I trust Pioli more than any moron on this message board to run an NFL franchise... So far its been a good FA period.

I wouldn't call it "good".

I am not as unhappy with it as others.

There were some free agents out there that could have improved the quality abd depth of this team, and that could have helped to make the next step, and I'm left scratching my head about the overall lack of activity.

But at the same time, I don't believe there was anyone out there that puts us in the SB this year.

he signed on the morning after FA started. not a great comparison there.

I agree. I'm a little perplexed in terms of depth, but that's about the extent of it. Offensive line is really the only thing I'm worried about right now; looks thin to me on paper.

Meh

This. /end thread

Overall im satisfied so far. It may not be how you or I would have done it, but that doesnt mean its wrong. Theres alot of info that we fans are not privy to. I trust that these guys know what they are doing. I also like the fact they are giving alot of the young guys with question marks (Tyjack, Albert, Richardson, Asomoah, McCluster, releasing etc..) a chance to grow into the job before pushing the "panic" button.

Nope, stayed up late watching the Cardinals game, logged on before I went to bed.

This team hasn't taken any real steps towards becoming a legitimate contender. They're still, at best, a 1 and done club.

And if the extent of your insight is to blindly cheer everything Pioli does, why even bother posting on a message board? I'll never understand that line of thought. There are a hell of a lot of people that said the Jackson pick was absurd and they've been a hell of a lot more right than Pioli. Ditto the McCluster and Arenas picks. Granted, Pioli's been right on a handful of picks that folks didn't like as well (Moeaki would probably be the best example). Ultimately, however, you can cite a TON of instances where the collective wisdom on CP was far more accurate than Scott Pioli.

And with the fact that Lawson and Franklin went for virtually nothing, I'm pretty comfortable saying this is one of those times.

It's a complete logical fallicy to say that these guys must suck since nobody went after them. Every single year you see guys on 'make good' deals excel. I seem to remember a chubby nut-grabber of our own being a very strong player for us last season on one of those very same deals. And it also makes your position completely unassailable. Had Franklin or Lawson gone for big money deals over multiple years, Boss Chief and the rest of the nut huggers would've been saying that Pioli was right for not chasing after him. Now that he went for cheap over short years, Pioli was right because clearly the player wasn't in demand.

It's the worst kind of useless double-talk; it's rear-view mirror rationalizing that runs completely opposed to what he was saying just a few days ago in regards to these very same players.

That kind of 'defense', such as it is, makes it quite apparent that those individuals were going to look for ways to support Pioli's decision, no matter what it was. When you switch horses mid-stream that easily, it's pretty apparent you never really had a position to begin with.

I understand your point, but I think we're both in agreement that this isn't a SB-contending team, and wouldn't be even with those 2 players. So what's the harm in developing younger talent this year?

Both Franklin and Lawson signed 1 year deals. If Stude/Houston and Powe don't work out, Pioli could, in theory, have the opportunity to sign them next year.

That's true, but I think we are a fringe playoff team.

Now if you have a couple of guys that could be the difference in a 7-9 season or a 9-7 season (which could easily win this division), don't you think another trip to the playoffs would be HUGE for the development of this team?

I don't think we're doing enough to keep this team from slipping backwards. Pioli seems content with conceding that this isn't a SB team and using it as another 'rebuilding' year. That just seems extremely reckless. It also seems like the front office is once again going on the cheap in building this team.

We just got called out by Drew Brees; you don't think that's relevant? We're being mentioned by national media types as one of the teams that created the need for the salary floor; you don't think that hurts our rep among the players? I'm not yelling and screaming that we should've overpaid for Kameron Wimbley or anything stupid like that; but how does getting a player like Lawson for a season pose any real risk? And if he doesn't work out, you sit him and you're out only the cash. Meanwhile if he does work out, you have a huge leg up on the rest of the league next year in extending him.

It's not the roster space either; we have what, 26 people in camp right now?

No matter what the answer is, it's a bad one. It may be money, it may be hubris, it may be that Pioli just mis-read the hell out of the FA market. I just don't like the way this FA period has been handled one bit.

I could swear the number I heard Friday was 61. Either way, no UFAs they signed would be in camp until tomorrow.

Very disappointing. I am very concerned about our D-Line.

The Lawson move is less defensible, as neither Stude or Houston are proven commodities. But Franklin vs. Gregg is a closer call, if for no other reason that Gregg was in demand as a starter and Franklin will be competing for PT with Shaun Rogers.

Now, if Pioli doesn't upgrade off of Thomas Jones, add a swing tackle, and a backup DL (e.g., Jamal Anderson), I'd grade the offseason out as a D.

Regarding Brees' point, the Chiefs were in transition in 2009. Clark Hunt throwing money at the mostly brokedick players listed below wouldn't have significantly improved the team's result . Moreover, it's always easier to recruit FA to teams with superstar QBs that have won a SB.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/...hty-impressive

The more I think about it the less I'm concerned about the d-line. Depth at nose tackle is my biggest question. Gregg's the first nose tackle they've had, in my mind; never really thought Edwards fit there. Powe's in the mix there. I don't expect him to start, but I do expect him to get worked in over the course of the year. If they can get anything out of Toribio they should be fine. The have a ton of young ends and tweeners. Dorsey will obviously start. Jackson if he's back up to speed. Gilberry will be in the mix somewhere. Then there's Bailey and apparently Miller (expected him to be a LB but maybe he's the new Gilberry while the old Gilberry is a 3-down lineman now).

I think they're still missing the tweener to take Smith's place, but they found him for change last offseason, so hopefully they can pull something off this year, too.

+1

They need someone who can actually anchor that DE spot and right now they have 1 guy with potential but he's a rook (Bailey) and another guy who's made getting pushed 2-5 yards off the LOS a favorite hobby of his.

Then they have a 35 year old Gregg who played second fiddle to a 350 lb Ravens superstar and now they're asking him to be "the man".

Not to mention they still haven't found the answer at OLB.

We're what, 2 weeks away from the first preseason game and we have exactly the same holes that we started with +1.

Yeah...I don't feel good about this at all.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gregg sign for about 1/2 of what Franklin signed for?

Don't you think Franklin would've been in higher demand than Gregg had he gone out there with the same contractual demands as him? Franklin mis-read the market; I think it's more than fair to at least consider the possibility that Pioli did the same. I think both parties overplayed their hands pretty badly.

And you're right to the extent that Pioli didn't really have a lot of options in '09. That said - perception is reality among NFL players. The longer it goes with the Chiefs passing on guys like Lawson and Harris (another really bad miss) with the only outward explanation being $$$, the harder and harder its going to be for them to get guys here without overpaying for them.

A perfect example is in Philly - the Eagles investment in Asomugha paid immediate dividends by improving their reputation among players. Were guys really talking about Philly as some destination franchise before they came out of nowhere and snaked Nnamdi? Suddenly guys like Harris are signing there for less than they could've grabbed elsewhere.

The Chiefs could make the playoffs this season, break through and be on their way. That said, they could also slip back again, further cement that reputation and get closer to being the Royals of the NFL. Pioli has had ample opportunity to make the former more likely than the latter (even incrementally so) and has not done so. That bothers me.

It's all moot until we fix the number 1 hole.