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Deberg_1990 08-25-2011 03:01 PM

The "White" Mike Vick
 
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WTF was ESPN thinking?? :facepalm:


Didnt they fire Limbaugh over this sort of crap 7 or 8 years ago?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl-wp5866




ESPN is under fire Thursday for creating and publishing the Photoshopped image above of Michael Vick(notes) with a white face to accompany a column in ESPN The Magazine entitled "What if Michael Vick were white?"

After immediate backlash to the image, which was also posted on ESPN's website, editors replaced the online picture with a regular photograph of Vick. The website then reversed course and, as of 2:30 p.m. ET on Thursday, had restored the original, controversial image to the top of the online story.

The picture and headline accompany a thoughtful piece by noted cultural critic Toure on how Vick's race has shaped both the positive and negative aspects of his life. The author dismisses the hypothetical question posed in the article's title saying that changing Vick's race would be to fundamentally change the athlete so much as to render him unknowable.

I mean, who would this white Vick be? [...] When you alter his race, it's like those Back to the Future movies where someone goes back in time, inadvertently changes one small thing about his parents' dating history and then the person starts to disappear. If Vick had been born to white parents, you wouldn't even be reading this right now. That Vick would have had radically different options in life compared with the Vick who grew up in the projects of Newport News, Va., where many young black men see sports as the only way out.

On his Twitter account, Toure said he asked editors not to use "What if Michael Vick were white?" as the title to the article. He later said he wasn't consulted about the image choice. "Judge me on the story," he wrote, "not the art."

If you ever wonder why it's difficult to have intelligent, measured discussions about race in this country, look no further than the picture above. A fine author writes a thought-provoking piece about how the color of your skin has some bearing on the person you become. It molds you like a number of other factors like upbringing, class and parenting. He goes beyond the usual platitudes that we throw into racial discussions so as not to seem insensitive or trite. And all of that is ignored because of a race-baiting headline and a cheap Photoshop job.

lcarus 08-25-2011 03:02 PM

People are too sensitive about stuff like this.

RNR 08-25-2011 03:03 PM

That looks more like an hispanic Vick~

big nasty kcnut 08-25-2011 03:03 PM

i thought that was tyler thigpen

Sofa King 08-25-2011 03:04 PM

He looks like a prick as a white man.

eazyb81 08-25-2011 03:04 PM

I'm still confused.

Why is this such a big deal?

vailpass 08-25-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 7850374)
That looks more like an hispanic Vick~

I thought so too, with a little Nepalese thrown in.

KCUnited 08-25-2011 03:06 PM

Here's a man fightin' dogs, electrocute them when they lose.
God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in his shoes.
Then you might know what its like.

-Everlast in a Philly uni

</post> 08-25-2011 03:08 PM

What if Mike was one of us...

Just a whitie like one of us...

alpha_omega 08-25-2011 03:08 PM

What does Fatlockthink of this?

kysirsoze 08-25-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7850380)
I'm still confused.

Why is this such a big deal?

It probably shouldn't be, but releasing an image of a polarzing black celebrity in photoshop white face is pretty ****ing stupid. Then again, it got me to read the article, so who knows?

Thig Lyfe 08-25-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 7850377)
i thought that was tyler thigpen

Thigpen is basically a white Vick. Or a black Tom Brady.

eazyb81 08-25-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7850395)
It probably shouldn't be, but releasing an image of a polarzing black celebrity in photoshop white face is pretty ****ing stupid. Then again, it got me to read the article, so who knows?

So it's racist for a white person to be made to look like a black person (black face), and it's now racist for a black person to be made to look like a white person?

Who makes up these rules?

RNR 08-25-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 7850374)
That looks more like an hispanic Vick~

However if this was the case he would have been busted for cock fighting...not near as bad in the eyes of the public~

Demonpenz 08-25-2011 03:17 PM

mcnulty got permission to do the wire taps. Sheeeeeeeeet

Deberg_1990 08-25-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7850405)
So it's racist for a white person to be made to look like a black person (black face), and it's now racist for a black person to be made to look like a white person?

Who makes up these rules?

Im just tired of this obsession with race the media has. I personally dont give a crap what color he is, and i dont know anyone who sits around thinking "What if Vick were White?" so who are they writing for?


Stop writing this nonsense media.

Bambi 08-25-2011 03:19 PM

Looks like a Madden character.

Dayze 08-25-2011 03:20 PM

I think I saw that guy on NatGeo's "Lockup" program.

vailpass 08-25-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 7850430)
I think I saw that guy on NatGeo's "Lockup" program.

It's Yankee.

HoneyBadger 08-25-2011 04:06 PM

He would have probably stayed out of prison if he were white.

Bump 08-25-2011 04:10 PM

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...gifs/rnaDo.gif

kstater 08-25-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fire_lm (Post 7850539)
He would have probably stayed out of prison if he were white.

Interesting point. One that probably has some validity.

Spott 08-25-2011 04:14 PM

What if Mike Vick was Chinese?

RNR 08-25-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fire_lm (Post 7850539)
He would have probably stayed out of prison if he were white.

Bullshit! That is a total crock of shit. Review the charges again. Black, white, pink or green that is jail time~

Hammock Parties 08-25-2011 04:27 PM

http://i.imgur.com/u2i8N.jpg

Okie_Apparition 08-25-2011 04:40 PM

No more out of line than acting like he's talented

Sanka 08-25-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 7850374)
That looks more like an hispanic Vick~

Ron Mexico?

WhitiE 08-25-2011 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by </post> (Post 7850391)
What if Mike was one of us...

Just a whitie like one of us...

What?

KurtCobain 08-25-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7850577)

:hmmm::)

Bambi 08-25-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 7850556)
Bullshit! That is a total crock of shit. Review the charges again. Black, white, pink or green that is jail time~

Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

beach tribe 08-25-2011 05:49 PM

These issues will never go away as long as Million dollar athletes are portrayed as being victims of their own race.
What if Mike Vick were white? He'd still be a dog Murderer with no SB rings.

Brock 08-25-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850730)
Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

Where's the backlash? Nobody even gives a shit about it anymore.

Deberg_1990 08-25-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850730)
Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

BS...if it would have been Brady, Favre or Manning (His equals as far as press and pub) it would have been the same.

beach tribe 08-25-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850730)
Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

So if a white person electrocuted dog's to death America would have been cool with it?
Listen dude, the reason you can't get any other job than at McDonald's, has nothing to do with you being black.

Bambi 08-25-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7850745)
Where's the backlash? Nobody even gives a shit about it anymore.

True, its been a few years now.

At the time I definitely felt there was a bit of piling on due to his race.

Dog fighting has been going on in England and Ireland for like 100 years, you've never heard the same rate of anger about those people as you did when Vick was busted.

Brock 08-25-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850755)
True, its been a few years now.

At the time I definitely felt there was a bit of piling on due to his race.

Dog fighting has been going on in England and Ireland for like 100 years, you've never heard the same rate of anger about those people as you did when Vick was busted.

It wasn't dog "fighting" that most people got angry about.

kysirsoze 08-25-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7850419)
Im just tired of this obsession with race the media has. I personally dont give a crap what color he is, and i dont know anyone who sits around thinking "What if Vick were White?" so who are they writing for?


Stop writing this nonsense media.

Your point is actually one main point of the article. The author hated both the title and the picture ESPN gave it.

Bambi 08-25-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7850746)
BS...if it would have been Brady, Favre or Manning (His equals as far as press and pub) it would have been the same.

I think you've found the point of the article.

kysirsoze 08-25-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850777)
I think you've found the point of the article.

You clearly didn't read it.

CrazyPhuD 08-25-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7850577)

That depends.....is he dark meat or light meat?

Bambi 08-25-2011 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7850800)
You clearly didn't read it.

Haha, sure I did.

I just didn't say I agreed with the author.

Vick was brought up around some scary people. That doesn't mean the backlash from everyday society would have been the same had it been a white QB.

Just my opinion. No biggie

Valiant 08-25-2011 06:35 PM

He looks like Jesus.. So everyone but his own team would hate him.. So basically no different..

kysirsoze 08-25-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850835)
Haha, sure I did.

I just didn't say I agreed with the author.

Vick was brought up around some scary people. That doesn't mean the backlash from everyday society would have been the same had it been a white QB.

Just my opinion. No biggie

No, the point of the article is that question is worthless. It is an oversimplification and doesn't achieve anything by being asked or discussed because of how many other factors go into the situation. It wasn't excusing Vick's actions because of his background as your post suggests.

Predarat 08-25-2011 07:19 PM

http://forums.trinituner.com/upload/...ats-racist.gif

evenfall 08-25-2011 07:25 PM

If you really want to draw this out to the end, if Vick were white he wouldn't have the foot speed or the same type of athleticism as he has, and would not have had the same career.

Predarat 08-25-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evenfall (Post 7850978)
If you really want to draw this out to the end, if Vick were white he wouldn't have the foot speed or the same type of athleticism as he has, and would not have had the same career.

But he would be smarter, have a better arm, make more accurate throws, be more of a leader in the locker room, command more respect, be a better team player and not a me me me guy. Heck he would have won the damn superbowl in the ATL.

Ace Gunner 08-25-2011 07:35 PM

Knee-jerk works good as ever. Now, if we can just get you to start putting your hedge $ where your mouth is, we really got something. thx fellas.


signed

Media

lcarus 08-25-2011 08:31 PM

If Vick was white like that, he would have played tight end in prison.

Bambi 08-25-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7851131)
If Vick was white like that, he would have played tight end in prison.

not wide receiver?

Jerm 08-25-2011 10:23 PM

I'm eagerly awaiting the "What if Tim Tebow was an Atheist" story now....

kysirsoze 08-25-2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 7851319)
I'm eagerly awaiting the "What if Tim Tebow was an Atheist" story now....

What if Tom Brady looked like Ron Jeremy?

What if Peyton Manning wasn't a robot?

Guys, I can do this all day.

niblet 08-25-2011 10:28 PM

If Vick was white he would've gotten terrific grades at a great school, gotten accepted to a top tier university and gone on to graduate with three degrees and eventually cure cancer.

But he was born black and never had white privilege so he's stuck making millions playing a sport at which he had no natural or biological predisposition towards succeeding at and did it all despite his skin color.

kysirsoze 08-25-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niblet (Post 7851326)
If Vick was white he would've gotten terrific grades at a great school, gotten accepted to a top tier university and gone on to graduate with three degrees and eventually cure cancer.

But he was born black and never had white privilege so he's stuck making millions playing a sport at which he had no natural or biological predisposition towards succeeding at and did it all despite his skin color.

I'm starting to think about 4 people in America read beyond this article's title.

lcarus 08-25-2011 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7851337)
I'm starting to think about 4 people in America read beyond this article's title.

Based on the title, why the hell should anyone read the article? I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything for bypassing the article and going straight into making fun of it.

kysirsoze 08-25-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7851342)
Based on the title, why the hell should anyone read the article? I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything for bypassing the article and going straight into making fun of it.

Well for starters, the author didn't give it the title and has publicly lamented it.

evenfall 08-25-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 7850986)
But he would be smarter, have a better arm, make more accurate throws, be more of a leader in the locker room, command more respect, be a better team player and not a me me me guy. Heck he would have won the damn superbowl in the ATL.

I wonder.

If he were a (slow) white guy, or maybe even a QB who could.run a bit in.college like a Tebow or whomever...what would have happened?

Would Vick have never been a college QB, not being able to rise to that level by beating people with athleticism? Just another college QB who wound up selling insurance or something?

Would his million dollar arm and Peyton Manning legs have caused him to learn to actually be a passer and he would have made it anyway?

Maybe its true that Vick wouldn't get so much criticism if he were white. But its also true that there is a large chance he wouldn't have made it to the NFL either. He could have just been Eric Crouch

Bewbies 08-26-2011 12:53 AM

Race doesn't matter. For anything. Ever.

People that are so focused on race are idiots.

Rasputin 08-26-2011 12:57 AM

What if Tiger Woods was black? How would of the media handled his drama with his extranged wife?

CoMoChief 08-26-2011 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 7850986)
But he would be smarter, have a better arm, make more accurate throws, be more of a leader in the locker room, command more respect, be a better team player and not a me me me guy. Heck he would have won the damn superbowl in the ATL.

:rolleyes:

Whatever.....Vick is a dumbass.

CoMoChief 08-26-2011 01:10 AM

Well, with race in sports come stereotypes...

In the NFL, if you're a QB and you're black, most people are going to assume that the black QB is:

More athletic - will tuck and run it and can at times be one of the faster players on the field.

Not as great of a student of the game as a white QB - let's his god given abilities and natural talent take over as opposed to studying the other teams defensive formations, holes and weaknesses.

Not as good of a team leader - Flashier ego, makes stupid decisions off the field, sometimes bad PR, brotha gotta get paid.


Some of which are true given past players histories...but it certainly doesn't mean that ALL black QB's are like that. I even will go to a degree and say that the video game world has manipulated people's thinking. To add to my first stereotype, most black QB's in video games are fast lol. You won't find too many white QB's that are fast in Madden...maybe Tebow but I dunno.

MoreLemonPledge 08-26-2011 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7850577)

****ing hilarious.

"HEY MICHAEL. WHAT IF YOU WERE A HOT DOG AND YOU WERE STARVING. WOULD YOU EAT YOURSELF? I KNOW I WOULD."

MoreLemonPledge 08-26-2011 01:28 AM

Judging by that picture, if Michael Vick were white he would wear Affliction and drink a lot of Jagerbombs.

BryanBusby 08-26-2011 01:32 AM

So white Michael Vick would be Ryan Mallett?

ThatRaceCardGuy 08-26-2011 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850730)
Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7850835)
Haha, sure I did.

I just didn't say I agreed with the author.

Vick was brought up around some scary people. That doesn't mean the backlash from everyday society would have been the same had it been a white QB.

Just my opinion. No biggie

This is Chiefs Planet ....so if you mention race MIGHT( not saying it did or didn't because we will never know ) have a factor in the AMOUNT of back lash in this instance, or race has anything to do with anything at all...all hell breaks loose , and you're instantly called stupid ...give it up man, its a loosing battle.

Sofa King 08-26-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7850577)

I know i would! Heck, I'd have seconds, and finish it off with a tall cool Budweiser!

LMAO

Will Ferrell is awesome.

Sofa King 08-26-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7851522)
****ing hilarious.

"HEY MICHAEL. WHAT IF YOU WERE A HOT DOG AND YOU WERE STARVING. WOULD YOU EAT YOURSELF? I KNOW I WOULD."

HEY! Here's a question for ya. If you had the choice of being the top scientist in your field or getting mad cow what would you choose?

Bambi 08-26-2011 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 7851581)
This is Chiefs Planet ....so if you mention race MIGHT( not saying it did or didn't because we will never know ) have a factor in the AMOUNT of back lash in this instance, or race has anything to do with anything at all...all hell breaks loose , and you're instantly called stupid ...give it up man, its a loosing battle.

Eh, doesn't bother me.

People need to know that there are more than just the Chiefs fans out there that are stereotyped by the coastal media.

JD10367 08-26-2011 05:23 PM

His dick would probably be smaller.

(Notice how they don't mind THAT stereotype?) :D

</post> 08-26-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhitiE (Post 7850679)
What?

You know...

Just a stranger on the bus,

Trying to make his way home.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2011 04:34 PM

http://i51.tinypic.com/nbu0t2.jpg

kstater 09-01-2011 04:44 PM

Umm, I think that's NSFW.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2011 04:47 PM

how?

Hammock Parties 09-01-2011 04:48 PM

there, edited....I linked to a private server....what was it, something nasty?

Deberg_1990 09-01-2011 05:36 PM

Wow, that Manning pic is funny, but its alot more realistic than the Vick pic.

kstater 09-01-2011 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7870106)
there, edited....I linked to a private server....what was it, something nasty?

Think old username.

chiefzilla1501 09-01-2011 09:12 PM

Whatever.

**** ESPN.

Same website that pulled a Lebron James story that spoke unfavorably of him.

Only ESPN. If you're going to have the balls to publish the story, have the balls to back it up.

dtebbe 09-01-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7870089)

He just needs a couple gold teef

DT


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