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Fritz88 09-06-2011 11:31 PM

Will you be willing to chip in if someone offered to stream Chiefs games?
 
grandllama did us the greatest service last season. He put up some amazing Chiefs games streams. However, he can't this year because

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7882752)
grandllama is not doing the stream this year. He doesn't have DTV anymore.

I asked a few people and they said they would be willing to try to cover as much of the DT and streaming costs as possible.

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7883071)
Shit. I'll throw in if he'll put it up again.

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 7883085)
I'm in.

This thread is trying to gauge how much we can cover (roughly). I'll PM grandllama and bring this thread to his attention. If he can't do it, please feel free to offer your great services to your CP brethren o:-).

We will try to cover as much as we can of the costs.
I would also like to add that we would like it to be only accessible to CP members with special credentials so that it does not hog up the uploader's internet connection.

Here's what grandllama had to say about this. Anyone can help with setting it up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandllama (Post 7884012)
My problem wasn't so much in affording Direct TV as it was in affording my house LOL

Right now I'm pretty much homeless.

I can setup the streams again, but somebody will have to feed the streams. Someone in KC with a video capture card and a Windows machine would be perfect and I can show them how to send it to my streaming servers.

Of course, somebody with ST and a windows machine with a video capture card would work too...

Basically you just upload the stream to my servers and they do all the work.

The games cost me about $20 each last year in bandwidth costs.



So, what do you think CP?

As for me, I am going to chip in 50 dollars.
kysirsoze is putting 20 dollars.
Pawnmower, 10 dollars.
Munkey, 10 dollars.
Loochy 20 dollars.
chief1okie not specified yet
Blazzin311 10 dollars
ElGringo, 20 dollars
lurker king, 25 dollars.


Can a mod please sticky this and make the poll public?

Bump 09-06-2011 11:32 PM

DTV is giving the sunday ticket FOR FREE!!!! DO IT

Chiefs Pantalones 09-06-2011 11:47 PM

I forgot, grandllama also said this,

"If someone has DirectTV I can still provide the streaming."

Fritz88 09-06-2011 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7883804)
I forgot, grandllama also said this,

"If someone has DirectTV I can still provide the streaming."

Shit, I think we can get him DTV, instead of him getting it from someone else.

kysirsoze 09-06-2011 11:51 PM

I'd chip in 20 bucks. I've got a buddy who's got ST but sometimes it's great just rolling out of bed and watching the game.

Chiefs Pantalones 09-07-2011 12:09 AM

I messaged him and asked him to take a look at the thread.

Fritz88 09-07-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7883784)
DTV is giving the sunday ticket FOR FREE!!!! DO IT

Where I am, I don't get any NFL regardless. I assume it is the same with quite a few CP members.
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Fritz88 09-07-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7883815)
I messaged him and asked him to take a look at the thread.

Thanks.
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griZZly64 09-07-2011 12:17 AM

If it were in Hd yes

Fritz88 09-07-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by griZZly64 (Post 7883819)
If it were in Hd yes

Perhaps he will also offer HD amateur porn as well!!

I don't care as long as it is in real time and not choppy. Last year grandllama put it in high and low res and both were damn fine.
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Ming the Merciless 09-07-2011 12:38 AM

I have DTV / ticket but I will still help out, and throw 10bux minimum on it

SDChiefs 09-07-2011 12:41 AM

No. I have to pay for sunday ticket.

Fritz88 09-07-2011 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7883829)
I have DTV / ticket but I will still help out, and throw 10bux minimum on it

Thanks bro. Hopefully grandllama will see this and get it for us.
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griZZly64 09-07-2011 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7883823)
Perhaps he will also offer HD amateur porn as well!!

I don't care as long as it is in real time and not choppy. Last year grandllama put it in high and low res and both were damn fine.
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i dont need any1 to get me my porn. this is 2011.

Fritz88 09-07-2011 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7883873)
This.

That is why we want to get this going asap. Once grandllama agrees, we can ask AustinChief to make the private subfourm and we go from there.
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munkey 09-07-2011 03:17 AM

Put me down for $10 ;)


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Mile High Mania 09-07-2011 03:25 AM

So, I'm guessing none of you live by a bar that has the games on Sunday?

Rausch 09-07-2011 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 7883912)
So, I'm guessing none of you live by a bar that has the games on Sunday?

I can't smoke in the bar or drink beer for $0.65 a bottle...

Fritz88 09-07-2011 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 7883912)
So, I'm guessing none of you live by a bar that has the games on Sunday?

Not even close.
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rocknrolla 09-07-2011 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7883913)
I can't smoke in the bar or drink beer for $0.65 a bottle...

This!

loochy 09-07-2011 05:52 AM

Those streams were fun last year. The quality was good and the chat room was fun. Count me in for at least $20.

chiefs1okie 09-07-2011 06:08 AM

I would be IN on this program. Please contact me with details on when, where, and how much.

Bugeater 09-07-2011 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7883923)
Not even close.
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Where the **** do you live?

griZZly64 09-07-2011 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7883913)
I can't smoke in the bar or drink beer for $0.65 a bottle...

or puff on the danks

Hydrae 09-07-2011 06:29 AM

As much as I would love to watch the games, I am ok with the listening to the legal radio feed.

Good luck guys.

RUSH 09-07-2011 06:40 AM

I would chip in.

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grandllama 09-07-2011 07:27 AM

My problem wasn't so much in affording Direct TV as it was in affording my house LOL

Right now I'm pretty much homeless.

I can setup the streams again, but somebody will have to feed the streams. Someone in KC with a video capture card and a Windows machine would be perfect and I can show them how to send it to my streaming servers.

Of course, somebody with ST and a windows machine with a video capture card would work too...

Basically you just upload the stream to my servers and they do all the work.

The games cost me about $20 each last year in bandwidth costs.

Fritz88 09-07-2011 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandllama (Post 7884012)
My problem wasn't so much in affording Direct TV as it was in affording my house LOL

Right now I'm pretty much homeless.

I can setup the streams again, but somebody will have to feed the streams. Someone in KC with a video capture card and a Windows machine would be perfect and I can show them how to send it to my streaming servers.

Of course, somebody with ST and a windows machine with a video capture card would work too...

Basically you just upload the stream to my servers and they do all the work.

The games cost me about $20 each last year in bandwidth costs.

Does it have to be KC?

Anyone can help out?

Chief Faithful 09-07-2011 07:30 AM

If we are talking about a closed community with good quality I'll chip in $20 to cover the cost of one game.

ReynardMuldrake 09-07-2011 07:31 AM

While I think this could be useful, I have to question putting this thread where it is publicly visible. The wrong person sees this, they could pull the whole Chiefsplanet domain. I'd rather not see this cached by Google either. Is there any way we can put this in a members-only subforum or something more private?

Simply Red 09-07-2011 07:37 AM

depends on how they look this Sunday, I'll let you know around 5pm this Sunday. I could easily not care..

Fritz88 09-07-2011 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 7884017)
While I think this could be useful, I have to question putting this thread where it is publicly visible. The wrong person sees this, they could pull the whole Chiefsplanet domain. I'd rather not see this cached by Google either. Is there any way we can put this in a members-only subforum or something more private?

Agreed.

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 7884017)
While I think this could be useful, I have to question putting this thread where it is publicly visible. The wrong person sees this, they could pull the whole Chiefsplanet domain. I'd rather not see this cached by Google either. Is there any way we can put this in a members-only subforum or something more private?

+1

yeti 09-07-2011 07:54 AM

Yes I would be willing to help out as llama's streams were excellent last year, but only if this is set up in a more discreet manner.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 07:56 AM

I used to offer my slingbox to folks for football and basketball... Heck even offered it to MU fans on here for basketball...


But we moved out into the country now, I went from a cox 50mb down and 5mb up to 1mb up and down...

I dont think my stream will be that good anymore, so it probably wont offering that to folks... I will be willing to try it when the games start, just cant guarantee the quality anymore...

rageeumr 09-07-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 7884017)
While I think this could be useful, I have to question putting this thread where it is publicly visible. The wrong person sees this, they could pull the whole Chiefsplanet domain. I'd rather not see this cached by Google either. Is there any way we can put this in a members-only subforum or something more private?

Ya, put this shit in Media Center where no one ever looks.

Simply Red 09-07-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by yeti (Post 7884045)
but only if this is set up in a more discreet manner.

what exactly does this mean?

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 7884052)
what exactly does this mean?

It means people probably don't want to go on a public message board that can be archived and come out and say "Yes, I want to break the law. Please tell me how I can take part."

ReynardMuldrake 09-07-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 7884050)
Ya, put this shit in Media Center where no one ever looks.

Google doesn't care what subforum it's in. You don't think the league has people on its payroll whose only job is googling for illicit streams? If it's viewable to the public it can always be found eventually. I'm worried because the exchange of money would make it a target.

loochy 09-07-2011 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 7884059)
Google doesn't care what subforum it's in. You don't think the league has people on its payroll whose only job is googling for illicit streams? If it's viewable to the public it can always be found eventually. I'm worried because the exchange of money would make it a target.

But I'll just give llama money because he's a nice guy and I feel bad about his house situation.

loochy 09-07-2011 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandllama (Post 7884012)
My problem wasn't so much in affording Direct TV as it was in affording my house LOL

Right now I'm pretty much homeless.

I can setup the streams again, but somebody will have to feed the streams. Someone in KC with a video capture card and a Windows machine would be perfect and I can show them how to send it to my streaming servers.

Of course, somebody with ST and a windows machine with a video capture card would work too...

Basically you just upload the stream to my servers and they do all the work.

The games cost me about $20 each last year in bandwidth costs.

Claythan/GoChiefs/GifHorse I'm looking your way...

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 7884080)
But I'll just give llama money because he's a nice guy and I feel bad about his house situation.

Is there a grand llama fund drive going on, to help him with his hard times? I'd be interested in that. In return someone can send a smoke signal to all interested parties with a password link to where to make the donations on a weekly basis.

Simply Red 09-07-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 7884082)
Claythan/GoChiefs/GifHorse I'm looking your way...

I don't think he knows how, surprisingly so. Think he said that last week.

Fritz88 09-07-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 7884088)
I don't think he knows how, surprisingly so. Think he said that last week.

well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandllama (Post 7884012)
I can show them how to send it to my streaming servers.


Third Eye 09-07-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884085)
Is there a grand llama fund drive going on, to help him with his hard times? I'd be interested in that. In return someone can send a smoke signal to all interested parties with a password link to where to make the donations on a weekly basis.

I would also be willing to donate to a planeteer in need. Now this illegal streaming stuff, I don't even know what that means.

blazzin311 09-07-2011 02:05 PM

Well being as NFL Sunday ticket is now on PS3, I will no longer need to stream my Chiefs games this year. However, for the pas 5 or 6 years I've had to find a stream almost every Sunday like many of you....and like many of you last year I was able to enjoy this thanks to grandllama and all of his hard work. So because I understand the predicament that many of you are in, I'd gladly donate $10 to help out all of my CP brethren. I know it's not much, but hey it's something. Just let me know where and how to allocate the funds. ;)

Predarat 09-07-2011 02:11 PM

Another problem is with the TV feed, you cannot hear the guy with the raspy voice that says Tooucchhhddooowwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Kaaaannnsssaasssssssssssssss Ccciityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

loochy 09-07-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 7885012)
Another problem is with the TV feed, you cannot hear the guy with the raspy voice that says Tooucchhhddooowwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Kaaaannnsssaasssssssssssssss Ccciityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Maybe someone can stream the radio in with the video feed. ;)

bevischief 09-07-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 7885086)
Maybe someone can stream the radio in with the video feed. ;)

http://www.101thefox.net/

bevischief 09-07-2011 02:42 PM

Since I am out of KC now as well I can help out as well and would like to see this go in to a private forum.

loochy 09-07-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 7885127)

Yes, but we need to somehow splice that with some video with correct timing.

Fritz88 09-07-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 7885145)
Yes, but we need to somehow splice that with some video with correct timing.

We tried last year, it did not work.
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ElGringo 09-07-2011 03:19 PM

I am always willing to chip in on someone covering exclusively the Chiefs, other streams are usually bad and hard to find. I would donate at least 20...and very likely make that donation 2 or 3 times (can only afford 20 in one single month, but would like to give more than once).

ElGringo 09-07-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 7885130)
Since I am out of KC now as well I can help out as well and would like to see this go in to a private forum.

This is how it was done last year, only contributing members had access to the sub forum with the info.

ElGringo 09-07-2011 03:29 PM

Oh...and to the copyright nazis, I will not feel bad for accessing in this format something I have no other way to access. I live in North America, so nfl.com stream is out, but I live in Mexico, so no ST for me either.

pr_capone 09-07-2011 03:48 PM

XME Forums does something similar. In fact, they arelady have several NFL streams available. You might take a gander at their set up or see if they would be willing to host the games. They charge for their streaming services but I can vouch for their quality as this is usually where I pick up the UFC fights.

blazzin311 09-07-2011 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 7885291)
XME Forums does something similar. In fact, they arelady have several NFL streams available. You might take a gander at their set up or see if they would be willing to host the games. They charge for their streaming services but I can vouch for their quality as this is usually where I pick up the UFC fights.

I can't vouche for the quality for their NFL games, but you're correct.....if they're anything like the UFC fights streamed on that sight then it's very good quality.

lurker king 09-07-2011 05:22 PM

I'd chip in $25 or so if that would help him out.

Hydrae 09-07-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElGringo (Post 7885249)
Oh...and to the copyright nazis, I will not feel bad for accessing in this format something I have no other way to access. I live in North America, so nfl.com stream is out, but I live in Mexico, so no ST for me either.

Understood but what part of "no rebroadcast, no retransmission without express written consent from the NFL" do people not understand?

I won't say I have not found and watched games myself (including GLs feed last year). My concern is for AustinChief and this website in general. I would hate to lose my on-line home.

Fritz88 09-07-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 7885535)
Understood but what part of "no rebroadcast, no retransmission without express written consent from the NFL" do people not understand?

I won't say I have not found and watched games myself (including GLs feed last year). My concern is for AustinChief and this website in general. I would hate to lose my on-line home.

If this could bring trouble to CP then I have no problem with a mod deleting this thread.

pr_capone 09-07-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 7885535)
Understood but what part of "no rebroadcast, no retransmission without express written consent from the NFL" do people not understand?

I won't say I have not found and watched games myself (including GLs feed last year). My concern is for AustinChief and this website in general. I would hate to lose my on-line home.

The law states that we can have written links as that is just dissemination of information. Making them clickable links is where it gets fuzzy. At least that is the way it used to be.

I am still staff at what used to be one of the largest "aaaarrrrggghh matey" sites on the net. In fact, the owner of the site wound up in the Ohio Supreme Court because of our forum. In the end, charges were dropped because our links were not clickable.

Dunno if it would work the same in the state where this site is hosted but just passing along the experience. YMMV

rocknrolla 09-07-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElGringo (Post 7885236)
I am always willing to chip in on someone covering exclusively the Chiefs, other streams are usually bad and hard to find. I would donate at least 20...and very likely make that donation 2 or 3 times (can only afford 20 in one single month, but would like to give more than once).

I'm in the same boat. I can give 20 to start with and will donate at least another 20 a month , hopefully more.

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 06:04 PM

i would pay for a cheeseburger

JoeyChuckles 09-07-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurker king (Post 7885514)
I'd chip in $25 or so if that would help him out.

Whoa buddy, you just upped your posts per year count by a ton.

JoeyChuckles 09-07-2011 07:21 PM

I'm in for $20 if it is secure and reliable.

The Llama was my hero last year, as it was my first time living outside KC.

rocknrolla 09-07-2011 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7885546)
If this could bring trouble to CP then I have no problem with a mod deleting this thread.

If there was a grandllama fund ;);) thread set up to help him out. And give out a password to the ones donating. If this were to go up. Would that send any red flags. Just thinking.

milkman 09-07-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7885598)
i would pay for a cheeseburger

Tuesday?

rageeumr 09-07-2011 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 7884059)
Google doesn't care what subforum it's in. You don't think the league has people on its payroll whose only job is googling for illicit streams? If it's viewable to the public it can always be found eventually. I'm worried because the exchange of money would make it a target.

That was posted to illicit a reaction out of the people who get defensive when people suggest the media center be dropped. It was a joke. Apparently a bad one.

Iowanian 09-07-2011 08:51 PM

Given the recent actions to take down people who do this, It's pretty irresponsible to name names here.

BossChief 09-07-2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7886105)
Given the recent actions to take down people who do this, It's pretty irresponsible to name names here.

this

its a pretty big deal nowadays. There was a major article not too long ago about them throwing some kid in prison over making 6000 bucks on a similar thingy.

This thread needs deleted asap and a replacement one needs posted that is a bit more discreet.

Psyko Tek 09-07-2011 09:33 PM

I will gladly pay pall $20 next pay day o have his again love the chat and game
(pay day is next weekend
just let me know

MatriculatingHank 09-07-2011 10:06 PM

This would be a major concern to me:

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...rts_arrest.php
Federal agents today arrested Bryan McCarthy, 32, for running a Web site that illegally livestreamed NFL games, pay-per-view fights and other sporting events.

The operator of channelsurfing.net was arrested at his Deer Park home without incident by officers of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).

The feds say he had made more than $90,000 in profits from ads sold on the site since December 2005, and that the site had gotten 1.3 million hits since it was seized by the government on February 1.

"Today's arrest is another step forward in the ongoing investigation by New York HSI Agents into copyright infringement and theft of intellectual property rights," said James T. Hayes, special agent in charge of HSI in New York. "We will continue to investigate illegal streaming of programming on the Internet in an effort to preserve legitimate and creative business interests and deter others from engaging in online piracy."

"Bryan McCarthy allegedly sought to profit by intercepting and then streaming live sporting events, hiding behind the anonymity of the internet to make a quick buck through what is little more than high-tech thievery," said Preet Bhara, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. "This arrest sends a clear message that this office, working with its partners at HSI, will vigorously protect valuable intellectual property rights through arrests and domain name seizures."

The feds said McCarthy's site showed "National Football League (NFL), the National Basketball Association (NBA), the National Hockey League (NHL), World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), and the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). All of these organizations hold the copyrights to the televised broadcasts of their respective sporting events."

He faces five years in prison.

Simply Red 09-07-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 7883952)
Those streams were fun last year. The quality was good and the chat room was fun. Count me in for at least $20.

This

Iowanian 09-08-2011 06:12 AM

This room needs a good cleaning before Mom gets home.

Chiefs4TheWin 09-08-2011 07:01 AM

I'd throw in 20 or 30.

EyePod 09-08-2011 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazzin311 (Post 7884987)
Well being as NFL Sunday ticket is now on PS3, I will no longer need to stream my Chiefs games this year. However, for the pas 5 or 6 years I've had to find a stream almost every Sunday like many of you....and like many of you last year I was able to enjoy this thanks to grandllama and all of his hard work. So because I understand the predicament that many of you are in, I'd gladly donate $10 to help out all of my CP brethren. I know it's not much, but hey it's something. Just let me know where and how to allocate the funds. ;)

340 bucks is a lot of money. I don't even have cable. I can't bring myself to pay that much for the NFL....

I'd chip in 10 bucks for this though. The chat alone was awesome.

EyePod 09-08-2011 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatriculatingHank (Post 7886343)
This would be a major concern to me:

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...rts_arrest.php
Federal agents today arrested Bryan McCarthy, 32, for running a Web site that illegally livestreamed NFL games, pay-per-view fights and other sporting events.

The operator of channelsurfing.net was arrested at his Deer Park home without incident by officers of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).

The feds say he had made more than $90,000 in profits from ads sold on the site since December 2005, and that the site had gotten 1.3 million hits since it was seized by the government on February 1.

"Today's arrest is another step forward in the ongoing investigation by New York HSI Agents into copyright infringement and theft of intellectual property rights," said James T. Hayes, special agent in charge of HSI in New York. "We will continue to investigate illegal streaming of programming on the Internet in an effort to preserve legitimate and creative business interests and deter others from engaging in online piracy."

"Bryan McCarthy allegedly sought to profit by intercepting and then streaming live sporting events, hiding behind the anonymity of the internet to make a quick buck through what is little more than high-tech thievery," said Preet Bhara, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. "This arrest sends a clear message that this office, working with its partners at HSI, will vigorously protect valuable intellectual property rights through arrests and domain name seizures."

The feds said McCarthy's site showed "National Football League (NFL), the National Basketball Association (NBA), the National Hockey League (NHL), World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), and the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). All of these organizations hold the copyrights to the televised broadcasts of their respective sporting events."

He faces five years in prison.

The big part of that seems to be "seeking to profit." I don't think this situation is the same.

QuikSsurfer 09-09-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 7883952)
Those streams were fun last year. The quality was good and the chat room was fun. Count me in for at least $20.

Same. Put me down for a twenty twin twinnn ****er

JoeyChuckles 09-09-2011 07:02 PM

Status? 40 hours till game time.

Thig Lyfe 09-11-2011 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Wiz (Post 7890941)
Status? 40 hours till game time.

i'm wonderin' meself


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