Jaguars LB will be on a payment plan for his $20,000 fine
 

**** Gooddell. This guy makes ~$97,000 BEFORE taxes IF he stays on the practice squad for 16 weeks. And the league takes $20,000 MORE off the top of that?

What if he's cut after a couple weeks and no one picks him up? He's a freaking undrafted free agent. What a load of shit.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl-wp6605

Ochocinco should pay it for him.

Oh well. Hard lesson learned. He's free to go find another job.
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It's a business first and a sport second/Goodell apologists

THE ****?

The kid has made it in the NFL. He has a job.

We as fans really should look at from Goodells' point of view like you do : a business first, a sport second.

If he didnt want to pay.
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**** Goodell. He needs to die in an AIDS fire.

somebody should punch Goodell

That would be the same as fining Brady for like 10 million. Would that be allowed? I don't ****ing think so.

Eh, if Warren Buffet and I both get caught in the same speedtrap going the same speed, we're both going to pay the same fine. I'm failing to see why I should be outraged by this.

What I don't understand is how somebody who obviously and passionately HATES the sport of football, and, through his actions, is blantantly trying to destroy it gets the job in the first place, let alone keeps it.

He shouldn't of broken nfl rules then.

Because football is a sport (or it used to be) and the fines be levied out in the PRESEASON have almost all been perfectly legal, in fact textbook hits?

I look at it more like a bail thing. Judges adjust bail based on the amount of money someone has and makes.

If that's the case, then your outrage should be directed towards the fact that clean hits are being fined, and not the amount of the fine itself.

clay is outraged because 20k is more than he will make in his lifetime.
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Have you seen some of the bullshit they're handing out fines for?

Definitely worthy of taking 1/3 of a guy's paycheck.

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I'm guessing the debt you're in up to your eyeballs over is a lot more than 20k.

lol I find it hard to feel sorry for anyone that makes $5,700 per week.

It was and it is.

Pretty textbook as regards to leading helmet to a defenseless receiver. What's the outrage?

Jesus Christ you guys, he led with his ****ing helmet right into the other guy's helmet. That's an illegal hit.

Debt free Brah. Other than assets.
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That's only for 17 weeks, and he can be cut at any time during those 17 weeks.

This guy's JOB is football. He has 17 weeks a year where he's earning a regular paycheck....if he's lucky.

This is total garbage. A freaking UDFA.

I don't think anyone is saying they shouldn't fine him, I think they are saying it should be based more on their salary.

Yeah, that hit was definitely worth a fine.

And as for income based fines, bleh. They all play the same game.

LMAO

Please, he's lowering his helmet trying to avoid a helmet to helmet hit.

Hell, you can see him trying to lead with his arm. The game is moving so fast, he sees the guy catching the ball, a split second later he drops it.....bullshit call, bullshit fine, bullshit commissioner.

That's not what some are saying at all.

For 17 weeks out of the year, not 52.

Hm, maybe he's OK.

Good news and that is the way it should be.

U couldnt live comfortablely on 97k a year?
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You can't lead with your helmet, they've made that very clear the past few years. Whatever prompted him to do it doesn't matter.

I think he'll get it reduced to 25% of his weekly check, which is $1,425. That's much more reasonable.

Yeah good point.

You'd support Goodell if he made tackling illegal and put flags on the sides of the players instead, wouldn't you?

Yeah, because me agreeing that this is an illegal hit as defined by the NFL totally translates to that.

but i mean, if Goodell changed the rules, that would be THE RULES. ten years ago this hit was perfectly legal, then they changed the rule. you suppport that change, because it's now THE RULES. let's say it goes to flag in ten years, it would be the rules. you couldn't say anything about it, it's the rules.

why do you support this crap? this isn't football (even though i admit, it is The Rules)

JFC, do you not understand what AS DEFINED BY THE NFL means? Whether I'm in favor of the rule or not is irrelevant. There are plenty of rules I have to live by on a day-to-day basis that I don't like, but I have to comply with them or pay the penalty for breaking them. That's life.

A practice squad player shouldn't have to pay the same fine as 1st round pick who just pocketed 18 million in guaranteed money. To someone like Suh, the fine is equal to one days pay. To this guy it's 2 months of pay.

My father drank because my mom's pussy smelled like tuna, that doesn't mean my brother should been fined 20K, does it?

So also Flag Football Rules, if implemented and defined by the NFL, is something that players would have to live by on a day to day basis, and have to comply with or pay a penalty for breaking them, because that's life.

And you'd support that. Because you wouldnt have a choice, so it'd be irrelevant.

Backwards Masking is such a tool.

Seems like an inequity there.

LMAO shut the **** up

Because the fines for these are made as a disincentive for multi-million dollar contracts as they are the ones usually paying. Courts actually have the ability to raise fines to the maximum if it is not considered enough of a deterrant. Taking 20% of a persons' pay for the year is overkill.

it is moving fast. you dont want to the pussification of the league to continue further than it has, do you?

To me, the fine is too great, not because of the inequity between player salaries, but because none of these guys earn paychecks during the preseason.

Doesn't matter if you're Troy Polamaulu, James Harrison, or this guy.

No one gets paid anything more than per diem until the real games start.

Remember when Herm Edwards fined Tyron Brackenridge something like $14,000 for dancing in the locker room as a rookie? Herm seemed to think it was a big joke, and I was thinking, "This is an undrafted rookie free agent who may or may not make the team. Your moronic sense of humor could cost him everything he earns if he doesn't make it." Out of all the clueless things that Herm did, that may have been the most clueless.

I totally forgot about that. What a d*ck. I guess Herm felt as our leader, he had to take the time to address rookies trying to bond with their possible teammates. he wasn't thinking about winning, that's for sure.

Is the fine going against the guy that came in from the right side of the screen? Because that guy lowered his head and clocked the Patriot with the upper part or crown of his helmet. And he did it to the WR's facemask. That's a textbook illegal hit. He can learn to live off of his 2500 a week. **** him.

I disagree. That hit was fundamentally wrong. Kids are taught not to hit like that starting at about five years old. Nip that shit in the bud right now. He's still making over $2500 after the fine.

YOU SUPPORT FLAG FOOTBALL!!!!1!

Meh, dude is still making ~$150,000 a year AFTER paying the fine. I'm not going to sit here and feel bad for him.

LMAO

I support safe football, and I support reasonable practices to keep these guys safe. That type of hit is also incredibly dangerous for the guy doing the hitting. Way too hard on the neck.

so what?

if a gas station attendant in lots of states sells to minors, the cops come in and fine the attendant...not the store. most states, the fine is about 250.

If you sell alcohol to a minor in SD (and a couple other states) the cops come into the store and arrest the attendant...the manager has to come down or the store is locked when the arrest happens.

90%+ of the time, when you hit dirty, you made a conscience choice to do so.

I wonder if the NFL would sue the kid if he has an outstanding debt by not playing enough to cover the payments.

**** him.Learn to tackle,pay up or GTFO.

He can still afford to live in his mansion.

Okay, lets be realistic. The 2500 will come out before taxes. He is still making 3200.00 per week plus NFL beneifts.

There are a ton of guys that would trade places with him.

I have to work 60 hours a week to earn $3200.00. He gets to work out and practice football.

I will try to hold back my tears.

Wtf? How do you figure this?
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Then maybe he needs a job for part of the other 35 weeks of the year if life is that rough. Maybe he could use that degree from FAU.....**** him

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I am sure his teammates offered to help him on the side if it becomes to burdensome for him to handle.

I'd say of all the fines Goodell has handed out for "Malicious Intent" "defenseless receivers" and "Unnecessary roughness," 90 percent of them were clearly unintentional. For every Albert Hayneswroth stepping on some guys head theres 9 other textbook hits that were perfectly legal 10-12 years ago.

Leading with the helmet and launching himself into the player. Pretty clearly a penalty (under modern rules anyway), and pretty clearly fine-able (in the modern system).

Hard to get excited about it. And I don't think $20K is ridiculous. If he's elevated to the roster at any time his salary will increase dramatically.

Oh, and let's say there's no fine or the fine was very low (in consideration of the Practice Squadders low pay). That's basically like the Commissioner saying that marginal guys fighting for roster spots should feel free to take kill shots.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what Goodell wants to do.

:rolleyes:

It's a good thing he didn't hit Brady or Goodell would have to go to the rules committee and institute a new rule in 2012 that you can't touch QB's in preseason games.

You obviously didn't see the Pats/Lions game. The Lions' defense were only huddling up to determine which spiked dildo they should insert with extreme prejudice in Brady's rectum on the next play. It wasn't good, and it wasn't penalized...

The guy is making $77,000 then, playing a children's game. I am sure he would tell you he's blessed and happy to be there. He is.