It's been said before but I'm honestly currious start Stanzi??
 

Stanzi posts have been on here but I'm currious do you start him now? Or do you stick with cassel and see if he can turn it around?


Now more than ever this is becoming a reality.

Palko has to fail before Stanzi gets a start. Forget about it. It's not happening.

Palko is a bigger joke than cassel!

What if we are bad enough to get luck do we draft him though we aren't sure what stanzi can do??

Good start with that throw yesterday.

This has never been discussed

You don't start him. He'd be waaay over his head, particularly with the running game crutch being broken and gone now. Let Cassel get beat up. BUT, he should be the back up, not Palko. At least bring him in for mop up time and let him get reps in this offense. His being inactive while a loser with no future with the team is trotted out there as the back up is ridiculous. This is telling the fan base that you know you are a few years away and there isn't any point in getting Stanzi rocked right now.

Stick with Cassel. You don't want to accidentally win a game.

...you are talking about a franchise that plays the loyalty card straight to mediocrity.

Dude is a rookie ****ing quarterback who had no off season. That's probably why.

At least when we're winning, threads that are as stupid as this one don't piss me off.

No Charles? **** that. I want to watch Cassel fail all season long. I want him to throw for 9 TDs and 50 INTs.

Judging by the way the chiefs are playing, none of them had an offseason.

I dont buy the "he's not ready" spiel. The whole GD team is NOT READY...really we've been trounced TWICE..What do we have to lose in playing stanzi? Seriously, it really cant get worse....it cant. Put the kid in.

If he can produce anything at all with our schedule, and with our fail of an offense so far...think of what he will be able to do when our weapons get healthy again next year.

And if he bombs all over the field....We draft Luck. We have nothing to lose

I've caught myself asking that same question the past 2 weeks, but there is a simple answer.

Stanzi has some tools that could allow him to be a solid QB in the league. That said, playing him too early would probably ruin him, because I doubt he's ready. I'm a big hawk fan and before the draft compared Stanzi to Cassel.

He's got the size, he's got the arm, he's got the work ethic, he's got experience in the big games(which Cassel doesn't).....BUT for every game he looked great or every fantastic throw made under pressure, he'd make the most bone-headed Casselesque throw into triple coverage.

No offseason, no minicamps.....no work in the offseason in a professional capacity....no.

I'd rather he have more time to study and learn before being thrown to the wolves. maybe later in the season for experience.

I'm guessing I was mistaken whenever I thought that our depth chart was Cassel, Stanzi, and Palko?

Stanzi gives us a better chance at winning over Cassel and we are facing a time where winning can only hurt us. Unless Stanzi turns into an elite QB, which probably ain't happenin. We must get LUCKy!!!!

And may those 9 TDs be to Bowe.

Yea,yea,yea let's start a rookie QB and let Muir/Haley just destroy him.


David Carr II


Some seriously brain damaged morons around here nowadays.

I thought Stanzi was a gunslinger? He'd throw into triple coverage believing he'd make it fit. Cassel doesn't believe when he throws, he hopes. Seeing Stanzi looking downfield dodging the pressure during one of the preseasons games pretty much solidified him as an anti-Cassel in my mind.

Is he a chess grandmaster of the Manning/Brady cut like Luck is said to be? Probably not. He's not Cassel either though.

Yeah dog....

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Your math is off on the interceptions.

4.5 INTs per game
X
16 Weeks
72 INTs

touche

When you say destroy, do you mean destroyed like we were at home against hte bills when Cassel had a great game?

Or perhaps you mean destroyed like we were in Detroit?

Get this through your head, our chiefs are already destroyed this year....Destroyed....Can stanzi do any worse?

If so how? What throw 3 int's and fumble it up? Really how would it be worse?

If he gets hurt? You mean like Moeaki, Baldwin, Berry, charles, (prolly Hali)?

Really what do we lose?

I certainly would not start him. But I would have him IN UNIFORM AND ON THE SIDELINE to go in when the game is out of reach. GET HIM SOME ****ING NFL EXPERIENCE!!!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=250173

Cassel owns this suck parade...he's not getting off that easy

he and Pioli are going to suffer the whole thing

Laz was saying let's not destroy the guy, not the team.

That's exactly how I see it. Maybe get him some snaps (not a start, time in a game) later in the season if he shows he's ready. (I think the fact that he's inactive to this point speaks to his current readiness)

And I don't stick with Cassel through thick and thin. Scour the waver wire, make a trade for another backup, whatever it takes to make the position competitive (as in competitive in a game, giving the team a chance to win).

As far as the '12 draft, if we're in position I say take Luck or another QB, regardless of Stanzi. There's absolutely no downside to having multiple developmental quarterbacks. Best case scenario is that they both flourish and you have the opportunity to trade one of them, as the Chargers were able to do with Brees and Rivers. Worst case (well, not 'worst' technically; that would be both flopping) is that one is what you want as a starter and the other is a career backup.

He does have an arm and when he throws it, I do think he believes he'll get the ball through the needle. As an Iowa fan, I've seen him make some awesome throws, in big games, last play of game, running out of time on 4th down and you'll say "holy shit"....and then he'll be in a game vs bubble gum state, and he'll wobble-launch 2 consecutive passes into the gut of a 500lb tackle who is only playing because 3 starters have the juicy poops.

With the right coaching, he may very well make this football thing a career, but that's more likely with more time IMO. I'll gladly own it if I'm wrong and I hope I am, but I think he's Todd Collins.


I'd love to see him get some mop-up or blow-out snaps, but not as a starter this year.

Yeah I got it, but my point remains the same. They dont want him as QBOTF anyways, my only point is, since he's never gonna get a decent shot, put him in. Hell we let Brodie try...we had no problem breaking Mr. Glass....

That would be the greatest thing ever.

u guy s bring up hes only a rookie,but big ben won the sb his rookie yr

The problem is gameday "active" roster spots.

They can list Stanzi as the emergency QB, which allows him to not consume an "active" roster spot, yet still play if the other 2 QBs go down. So theoretically, Stanzi would have to move up to the #2 on the depth chart, and Haley would have to be comfortable enough to have Palko only available in the event of 2 QB injuries.

Realistically for Stanzi to get in a game, one of a few things has to happen.

1. Both other QBs get hurt in game, making him active as the emergency QB.

2. A QB is hurt enough to be inactive, thus moving him up the depth chart by default.

3. Something has to shake up the depth chart.

I think the most realistic possibility at this point is #3. If Cassel continues to play like this, Haley is going to have to make a change. Whether through Cassel continuing to fail, or Stanzi progressing in practice, a shake-up to the depth chart is his best chance.

Ryan Leaf was the #2 pick in the draft and started his rookie year. So did David Carr. Akili Smith....the list is a long one.

I think they did away with the emergency QB thing this year. Stanzi would take up a roster spot if he is active.

you should swallow a shotgun

Huh? The Steelers lost to the Patriots in the playoffs Bens rookie year. He "won" the SB the next year when he had one of his all time worst performances.

Any QB that we could "ruin" due to starting him (last I checked, Stanzi is an NFL player) is a QB that isn't our QBOTF anyway. Legit, franchise QB's can emerge from these types of situations. Throw him in there. See if he takes the reigns...learns from adversity/mistakes and emerges as a franchise QB. If not....well...bye. Thanks for helping us get the # 1 pick. If he's lights out and causes us to win some more games than we would with Cassell, then who cares about the # 1 pick?

I still favor NOT throwing him to the wolves. But I have to also say that reportedly one of Stanzi's positive points is that he does have "short memory" when it comes to his mistakes. He is probably more equipped than, say, Carr to not get his head messed up, but still....

If being thrown to the wolves "ruins" your quarterback, he was never the guy to lead you to the promised land, anyway.

You have to possess the ability to fight through adversity and keep moving forward.

I think Stanzi should start after the bye week.

JMO

Nothing personal, but the NFL is a cold bitch. He's a 5th rounder. If he's ruined big whoop.

imo Cassel has been handled like glass. It didn't work. I don't want them to start Stanzi at all this season. I'd love to have Andrew Luck but I'd hate to get there.

Stanzi reigned in the interceptions during his senior year. He does need to get acclimated to the speed.

I won't agree with anyone who says to keep Check Down in there. You are giving up by keeping him in. If Stanzi isn't ready, even Palko has to be a better choice. You know Check Down is a fail, you don't keep going back to him. Make Stanzi the backup so he gets more reps.

Did Newton and Dalton have the off season to learn their offenses? Hell, both of those two look far better than what we have right now. I say play him. Play him now.

EXACTLY

Stanzi has had just as much time as Newton and Dalton and has every tool a QB needs to be successful. Stanzi could play just as well or better than Dalton, easy. His short memory should ease the mind of those who think "he'll be ruined". That is just ridiculous, if any QB on our roster looked like he was ready to play this season in the preseason, it was Stanzi.

I know all the comparisons Stanzi gets are to Brady, mostly b/c of the way he steps up his game in big games, and the fourth quarter. Also, his work ethic and knowledge of defenses. Some of you might be a bit more comfortable with a comparison to Matt Schaub as his ceiling. I think it's a little low compared to where I think it truly is, but more believable.