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sedated 10-01-2011 03:12 PM

Top 5 college QB prospects
 
Name 'em, and where will they go in the draft?

I'm no expert, but it seems these 5 may be locks for the first round:
1. Luck (duh)
2. Barkley (USC)
3. Jones (Oklahoma)
4. Moore (Boise St.)
5. RG3 (Baylor)

doomy3 10-01-2011 03:13 PM

I don't think Moore goes in the first round, but Foles will. Moore is very small.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 03:15 PM

Luck










Barkley
Jones

Foles


RG3
Moore (due to size. But he's a hell of a QB)

Yeah I know that was 6.

RealSNR 10-01-2011 03:17 PM

Foles has looked like poop lately. I don't really want any part of him in the draft.

Robert Griffin III looks very intriguing.

How do people feel about Dan Persa? I know he's going to be a 3rd round and later guy, but he's a very intriguing developmental prospect

BigMeatballDave 10-01-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7956955)
I don't think Moore goes in the first round, but Foles will. Moore is very small.

Colt McCoy is small. He's doing well in Cleveland.

Moore is extremely accurate.

I like him if we miss out on Luck.

BigMeatballDave 10-01-2011 03:33 PM

Drew Brees is small, too.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 03:38 PM

Luck
Barkley
Jones
Foles
RGIII


Cousins

KCinNY 10-01-2011 03:43 PM

Not sure how Landry Jones would do with just average talent surrounding him.

I thought the same thing about Bradford, though and he had a nice rookie year.

KurtCobain 10-01-2011 03:49 PM

For the Chiefs I either want Luck or RG3 if we're drafting top ten, otherwise wait for the early second and take moore.

RustShack 10-01-2011 03:51 PM

Steele Jantz.

Ugly Duck 10-01-2011 03:52 PM

Luck

50 feet of crap

whoever....

sedated 10-01-2011 03:52 PM

Moore has done nothing but win, and he hasn't had the benefits that some of those other guys have had.

I thought Foles looked great at times last year, but has been inconsistent.

Matt Moore for HOF 10-01-2011 03:53 PM

10 posts in and no mention of Ryan Lindley?

sedated 10-01-2011 03:56 PM

So how many QBs go in he 1st next year? 6? 7? Looks like a good year to need one.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7957030)
Moore has done nothing but win, and he hasn't had the benefits that some of those other guys have had.

I thought Foles looked great at times last year, but has been inconsistent.

Titus Young and Austin Pettis were pretty good WR's

Three7s 10-01-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7956955)
I don't think Moore goes in the first round, but Foles will. Moore is very small.

I think Moore is a definite sleeper. I know people don't like his height, but according to ESPN, he's listed at 6-1, which is still taller than Brees I think. He's my 2nd choice.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 04:14 PM

Moore is small and doesn't have the arm.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957071)
Moore is small and doesn't have the arm.

He has the IQ and accuracy. And not just good enough accuracy. He's pin point. That to me is worth a 3rd rounder.

milkman 10-01-2011 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957071)
Moore is small and doesn't have the arm.

Well, Moore just climbed up the ladder of prospects in my eyes.

I haven't seen him, but your low opinion of him is all the endorsement for him that I need.

DeezNutz 10-01-2011 04:24 PM

I think RG3's stock will continue to rise, and Jones' will drop.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 04:26 PM

My only problem with Moore other than his small frame is that he's a lefty. And he looks damn good for a lefty.

Bambi 10-01-2011 04:28 PM

We should take RG3

I'm now convinced.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7957105)
We should take RG3

I'm now convinced.

I'd take him in the 2nd.

He's nothing compared to Andrew Luck though.

sedated 10-01-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957071)
Moore is small and doesn't have the arm.

Height and arm strength are always the best factors to pick a QB.

DeezNutz 10-01-2011 04:47 PM

While arm strength isn't the #1 priority, it seems like there's often a pendulum effective in discussing the importance of this attribute, and thus it often becomes underrated.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-01-2011 04:47 PM

I don't think I'd feel comfortable putting my franchise in the hands of a QB like RG3. He does have talent but worth a top 10 pick in the QB department? If Foles or Barkley are still on the board? I'm not so sure.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7957099)
Well, Moore just climbed up the ladder of prospects in my eyes.

I haven't seen him, but your low opinion of him is all the endorsement for him that I need.

Yea your ability to spot talent is so much better: Jarron Giilbert, Jamon Meredith, etc to name a few.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7957113)
Height and arm strength are always the best factors to pick a QB.

You don't think Height and arm strength are factors for teams drafting QB's?

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957136)
Yea your ability to spot talent is so much better: Jarron Giilbert, Jamon Meredith, etc to name a few.

Gasp. You mean we're all wrong every once in a while?!?

And some more than others.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-01-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957071)
Moore is small and doesn't have the arm.

I'm not comparing, but Montana was 6'2 with a relatively weak arm but it's not about arm strength, IMO. The most important fundamentals of QBing are accuracy, decision making, poise, footwork and pocket presence. There are no perfect QBs but arm strength isn't the most important thing. If your coach is smart he's fitting the scheme around the QBs talents; getting the most out of him. It should be a fun offseason (and an even better one if we get the #1 pick).

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 7957141)
Gasp. You mean we're all wrong every once in a while?!?

And some more than others.

Exactly and him trying to discredit me on a personal beef is bullshit.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957149)
Exactly and him trying to discredit me on a personal beef is bullshit.

It's just his opinion. Don't let it bother you, geez.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7957147)
I'm not comparing, but Montana was 6'2 with a relatively weak arm but it's not about arm strength, IMO. The most important fundamentals of QBing are accuracy, decision making, poise, footwork and pocket presence. There are no perfect QBs but arm strength isn't the most important thing. If your coach is smart he's fitting the scheme around the QBs talents; getting the most out of him. It should be a fun offseason (and an even better one if we get the #1 pick).

I agree with you fundamentals are the most important thing but don't you think Moore is part of a good system? I don't see Boise fling it down the field very much.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 7957153)
It's just his opinion. Don't let it bother you, geez.

Not bothered by it he just gets really strange when talking about football like he has to have the biggest dick in the room.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957176)
Not bothered by it he just gets really strange when talking about football like he has to have the biggest dick in the room.

He doesn't think he has the biggest dick. He just thinks you have the smallest.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-01-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957163)
I agree with you fundamentals are the most important thing but don't you think Moore is part of a good system? I don't see Boise fling it down the field very much.

He's a leader. He's very poise and cool under pressure. He has, IMO, the most accurate ball in college. Whether or not that's the system will be known in the coming years. He does have to get stronger physically, IMO. Depending on his pro day I'd say 2nd to 3rd rounder because scouts do focus on the sexy stuff (arm strength, height) more than ever. But that's why there are steals. No one is perfect.

Tribal Warfare 10-01-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7957187)
No one is perfect.

Unless it's Andrew Luck :D

Chiefs Pantalones 10-01-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7957225)
Unless it's Andrew Luck :D

lol just from a fan's perspective, I have been watching college football for a long time and IMO I haven't seen a QB like Luck since Peyton "my neck, my back, my neck and my back!!!" Manning.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7957236)
lol just from a fan's perspective, I have been watching college football for a long time and IMO I haven't seen a QB like Luck since Peyton "my neck, my back, my neck and my back!!!" Manning.

lol.. You forgot "knees" also.

Tribal Warfare 10-01-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7957236)
lol just from a fan's perspective, I have been watching college football for a long time and IMO I haven't seen a QB like Luck since Peyton "my neck, my back, my neck and my back!!!" Manning.

I'm messing with yah, I'm in the same boat in wanting KC to get Luck. :rockon:

Chiefs Pantalones 10-01-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7957245)
I'm messing with yah, I'm in the same boat in wanting KC to get Luck. :rockon:

He would own this town. It would make building a winner so much easier having a QB like that. If Haley were to get fired and we do get the #1 pick, heck there would be coaches calling Pioli to whore themselves for the head coaching job.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7957254)
He would own this town. It would make building a winner so much easier having a QB like that. If Haley were to get fired and we do get the #1 pick, heck there would be coaches calling Pioli to whore themselves for the head coaching job.

I have to wonder if Harbaugh would jump ship.

milkman 10-01-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957136)
Yea your ability to spot talent is so much better: Jarron Giilbert, Jamon Meredith, etc to name a few.

Yeah, except I wasn't on the Gilbert bandwagon, and Jamon Meredith is a backup on a pretty good Giants O-Line.

I was, however, a big fan of the idea of drafting Andy Levitre, Eric Wood and Kraig Urbik when they were available, and they, along with Demetrius Bell and Eric Pears are playing about as well as any O-Line in the league right now.

Tribal Warfare 10-01-2011 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7957254)
He would own this town. It would make building a winner so much easier having a QB like that. If Haley were to get fired and we do get the #1 pick, heck there would be coaches calling Pioli to whore themselves for the head coaching job.

Hell,I may even change my avy and sig in homage to Luck when and if the Chiefs selects him. Man, ChiefsPlanet's servers will crash over the sheer awesomeness that would transpire also.

Tribal Warfare 10-01-2011 05:25 PM

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Hey milkman :D

milkman 10-01-2011 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7957149)
Exactly and him trying to discredit me on a personal beef is bullshit.

What personal beef?

I don't have anything against you.

I just don't think you're right very often.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-01-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 7957259)
I have to wonder if Harbaugh would jump ship.

lol #1 pick attracts a lot of interest. Pioli could get the coach of his choosing easily. If I were Luck I'd want to get picked by KC more than the other contenders for the pick. Charles, Bowe, Baldwin (potential is there, we don't know) Moeaki (if he can stay healthy), awesome fan base, etc. KC is by far the best place for Luck to end up. I don't think we'd contend right away, but a year or two later look out, IMO.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7957283)
lol #1 pick attracts a lot of interest. Pioli could get the coach of his choosing easily. If I were Luck I'd want to get picked by KC more than the other contenders for the pick. Charles, Bowe, Baldwin (potential is there, we don't know) Moeaki (if he can stay healthy), awesome fan base, etc. KC is by far the best place for Luck to end up. I don't think we'd contend right away, but a year or two later look out, IMO.

I've already got a bet with my friend that IF we draft Luck we will go 11-5.

Yeah I'm that sure about him. And he doesn't even have to control the games at that point. We'd still be a running team first.

ForeverChiefs58 10-01-2011 05:40 PM

I wonder if the new draft salary will affect how many go in the 1st?

Here is my Top 10 college QB prospects

Barkley
Moore
RG3
Lindley
Cousins
Keenum
Weeden
Foles
Jones
Luck

KChiefs1 10-01-2011 05:41 PM

Luck is the best QB to come out since Peyton Manning.

Knob 10-01-2011 05:50 PM

Wow
 
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BigMeatballDave 10-01-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7957314)
I wonder if the new draft salary will affect how many go in the 1st?

Here is my Top 10 college QB prospects

Barkley
Moore
RG3
Lindley
Cousins
Keenum
Weeden
Foles
Jones
Luck

Do you have these listed an any particular order?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-01-2011 06:01 PM

Foles is on his way to becoming this year's Jevean Snead.

ForeverChiefs58 10-01-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knob (Post 7957323)
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Yeah, unfortunately their kicker makes Suckup look like a probowler.

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Titty Meat 10-01-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7957344)
Foles is on his way to becoming this year's Jevean Snead.

Never thought he was that good. He was overmatched in that Holiday Bowl a few years ago.

Ugly Duck 10-01-2011 06:10 PM

Did you hear about what Buck did? I can't freakin' believe it - I used to like that guy!

ForeverChiefs58 10-01-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7957343)
Do you have these listed an any particular order?

No, not at all. Just random.

Knob 10-01-2011 06:13 PM

what did he do?

KurtCobain 10-01-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knob (Post 7957358)
what did he do?

It was some sick shit.

BigMeatballDave 10-01-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 7957259)
I have to wonder if Harbaugh would jump ship.

NO MORE TRADING DRAFT PICKS FOR COACHES

BigMeatballDave 10-01-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7957355)
No, not at all. Just random.

Ok. I saw Luck at the bottom and I was like, WTF? :)

sedated 10-01-2011 06:27 PM

This wasn't meant to be yet another Luck love thread!

ForeverChiefs58 10-01-2011 07:09 PM

Here are some highlights from a few prospects

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Tribal Warfare 10-01-2011 07:33 PM

Kellen Moore is only other QB that I've seen in live game action that displayed true clutch play other than Luck in this draft class.

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 07:49 PM

Highlights are nice. I really like Barkley's to be honest. But Lowlights are what needs to be seen.

BigMeatballDave 10-01-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 7957563)
Highlights are nice. I really like Barkley's to be honest. But Lowlights are what needs to be seen.

heh, no joke. Even Matt Cassel has highlights...

Smed1065 10-01-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7956953)
Name 'em, and where will they go in the draft?

I'm no expert, but it seems these 5 may be locks for the first round:
1. Luck (duh)
2. Barkley (USC)
3. Jones (Oklahoma)
4. Moore (Boise St.)
5. RG3 (Baylor)

No, odds say it has to be the first pick........

BigMeatballDave 10-01-2011 08:09 PM

I dont know if I want another Matt from USC.

Ebolapox 10-01-2011 08:11 PM

kellen moore=ken dorsey

no thank you.

sedated 10-01-2011 08:22 PM

Where does Russell Wilson go? 3rd rd?

CaliforniaChief 10-01-2011 08:23 PM

Luck
RGIII
Barkley
Foles
L. Jones

Setsuna 10-01-2011 09:20 PM

Russel Wilson

KCrockaholic 10-01-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 7957624)
kellen moore=ken dorsey

no thank you.

I don't see it.

Titty Meat 10-01-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7957281)
What personal beef?

I don't have anything against you.

I just don't think you're right very often.

Like the time you said the Chiefs were going to beat the Lions?

ForeverChiefs58 10-01-2011 09:39 PM

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Rain Man 10-01-2011 09:40 PM

Andrew Luck will go above the #1 pick. He'll actually rise to the middle of the sixth round of last year's draft.

jd1020 10-01-2011 09:50 PM

I dont see more than 4 QB's being drafted in the first round, only 3 being locks. And Moore isn't close to a first round QB. He doesn't have the physical tools people look for in a QB. His stats will probably land him a mid round career backup draft pick.

Buehler445 10-01-2011 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7957670)
Where does Russell Wilson go? 3rd rd?

I saw his highlights on espn. Looked good. Anybody have any thoughts on him?

Frankie 10-01-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7956963)
How do people feel about Dan Persa? I know he's going to be a 3rd round and later guy, but he's a very intriguing developmental prospect

We already HAVE a very intriguing developmental prospect. If only he would be activated for a game or two.

jd1020 10-01-2011 10:59 PM

If it's not Luck/Jones/Barkley who gives a shit?


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