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chuxtrux 10-05-2011 02:01 PM

Is Javon Belcher an above average middle linebacker?
 
I never would have thought so last year but it seems like he has quietly improved the most out of anybody on defense. He seems to be better at shedding blocks and is reacting quicker in stopping the run game.

jspchief 10-05-2011 02:03 PM

I don't know about above average, but he's certainly not a weak spot on the D.

FAX 10-05-2011 02:05 PM

I grew to like Belcher last year. He brought some lumber to the party a few times.

Apparently, he likes to hit. And I like that.

Not sure he totally understands his role and responsibilities yet, though. Otherwise, he'd be popping some running backs at or around the handoff.

In this system, is he supposed to cover a lot?

FAX

DJ's left nut 10-05-2011 02:09 PM

He's a decent run-stuffer and a liability in space.

He's a more athletic, smaller version of Brandon Siler.

So no, he's not 'above average', but he's not a walking disaster either, IMO.

notorious 10-05-2011 02:34 PM

Average

tyton75 10-05-2011 02:43 PM

Vanilla, average

Demonpenz 10-05-2011 02:49 PM

He's kinda more of a thumper than I thought watching him in person.

ToxSocks 10-05-2011 02:55 PM

I'd call him average. Nothing spectacular, a bit of a liability in coverage, but he does lay the wood in the run game. Not a hole, a team can win with him. But he's certainly not a stand out player yet either.

gblowfish 10-05-2011 03:10 PM

Average to less than average. Last year he missed pulling down a QB on blitzes on more than a few occasions. Now they don't blitz him much at all, maybe because of the Houston addition.

BossChief 10-05-2011 03:21 PM

According to the advanced stat sites such as PFF BOTH Belcher and DJ are top 10 overall and Belcher is top 5 in the NFL in run defense.

ToxSocks 10-05-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7970151)
According to the advanced stat sites such as PFF BOTH Belcher and DJ are top 10 overall and Belcher is top 5 in the NFL in run defense.

I was thinking about this the other day. Both Belcher and DJ have clearly been more effective this season. Is it time to give ButterBean (Gregg) his dues?

Demonpenz 10-05-2011 03:32 PM

The funniest thing I saw all day, Gregg Runs out infront of warpaint and out of the tunnel. slows his jog to a walk halfway to the sidelines, strolls over to the gatorade and drinks a cup and sits down with visable distraught coming from his breathing.

RealSNR 10-05-2011 03:34 PM

Belcher's definitely adequate. He is also capable of making a stunning defensive play or two, the kind that can stop drives.

Back in the offseason when I thought we were a playoff team, I wanted us to draft Vontaze Burfict, but that's just not worth it anymore. Burfict is the exact same liability in space that Belcher is, and after Belcher's improvement, I'm not so sure Burfict adds anything to this defense at all except for extra energy.

But yes, Belcher is good. Every team needs a player like him.

suds79 10-05-2011 03:36 PM

average.

But he's a MLB in a 3-4 so if I had any position to be average on, that'd probably be it.

TheGuardian 10-05-2011 04:48 PM

He's improving. His run defense is really solid right now.

Iconic 10-05-2011 04:50 PM

Javon who?

O.city 10-05-2011 04:50 PM

For the amount of time he has played the position he is playing in the NFL, yeah I think he is playing pretty well. He was a DE coming in and has transitioned pretty well.

Fritz88 10-05-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7970151)
According to the advanced stat sites such as PFF BOTH Belcher and DJ are top 10 overall and Belcher is top 5 in the NFL in run defense.

Some stats scream "shit on me"
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Deberg_1990 10-05-2011 05:14 PM

Hes decent. Not a star nor will he ever be, but a team can win with him for sure. Not all 11 guys can be superstars.

O.city 10-05-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7970430)
Hes decent. Not a star nor will he ever be, but a team can win with him for sure. Not all 11 guys can be superstars.

Nor have to be.

O.city 10-05-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7970430)
Hes decent. Not a star nor will he ever be, but a team can win with him for sure. Not all 11 guys can be superstars.

Just the one who sticks his two hands under the center


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