Nick Foles...
 

Since we are starting independent qb threads...

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Foles = Flaaco.

Fair enough.

throw up some highlights

Draftabulators....


Where is he projected....?

**** you. We want to "develop" one.

T
o bring out the capabilities or possibilities of; bring to a more advanced or effective state:

I...uh....what?

Early to mid 2nd round would be my guess. Dependent on how many of the expectant QB's actually declare early for the draft.

Foles is not what this team needs for a QB.

Same as last year right now.

2+

I"LL join them.

Ahead of Cassel?

2nd rnd.

I am not contesting this, but what are his flaws that keep him from grading out as a 1st rnd qb?

So far this season...

170/236

1877 yards

14 tds

2 ints

He sucks ass. His stats are garbage time. If U of A can ever win a game then I'd consider it.

He's going to be a first rd pick. It'd be a god damn miracle if he lasted til the mid 2nd rd and was sitting there for the taking when KC picks.

I think he's gonna be the 2nd QB selected.

I dont see any chance Foles is the 2nd QB off the board. Foles benefits from the same type of offense that Jones does but Foles has a lot more questions about his game like arm, accuracy, throwing motion, and decision making. Unless some major injuries occur either Barkley or Jones are locks to be the second QB off the board.

Foles will most likely be a 2nd round QB for a team that needs a backup like the Colts if they dont get the first pick and grab Luck. He's not worth a top 1st round pick and teams drafting in the late first wont be needing a qb.

Yes please!

The ****?

If Barkley, Jones and RGIII return back to school.....sure.

He might even be first if Luck goes back!

SUCK FOR FOLES!

He's imitating the hostility of the rival factions (drafturbators and true fans) of the 2009-2010 offseason.

He also believes we need to draft and develop our own quarterback. As a special kindness, he added the definition of develop from the 1994 Webster's Dictionary.
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I see. I'm going to go ahead and assume he stumbled on that by accident.

Another poster who doesn't know what he's talking about. Cool.

I do like the fact that he played QB in college. That's always a plus.

I've decided that if we can't get Luck, then I want Robert Griffin III.

I heard an interview about him on the radio yesterday, and I'm sold. He comes from a military background and is the consummate leader. He loves putting the team on his shoulders and being the man.

Everyone knows about his 85% completion percentage. What few people know is that his average throw is 12 yards, compared to Luck's 9+ yards/attempt. When the pocket breaks down, his 4.4 speed will make plays. But he's not a gadget player. He will stay in the pocket and work his progressions through.

If he's there in the 1st round, I want him.

I was able to watch him from the press box when Baylor played K-State last week & became a huge fan of RG3. The fact that he plays in a spread kinda bugs me (I always have reservations as to how they can adjust), but he seems to have all the tools to be a great QB. Plus, after the end of the game, he was pretty pissed, so he obviously hates to lose.

Isn't he a junior, though? He could theoretically go back for another year, I believe.

He's a redshirted Jr. He's got 2 more years if he wants.

Says the dumbass that compared him to Flacco.

Hint: You're that poster who doesn't know what he's talking about.

You do realize Foles is about the same size as Flaaco and has the same type of arm strength? 2nd round pick ROFL get the **** out of here dumbass you're just as clueless as the weatherman you named yourself after.

Brodie Croyle is about the same size as Aaron Rodgers with a cannon for an arm. Guess we should have kept him around.

Jd1020 is brain dead so was Terri Schiavo.

Mad because your "bullet proof" comparison blew up in your face?

This is rich. Please go on and spread your great knowledge of how awesome of a prospect Foles is; the laughs are going to be wonderful when we all read your reeruned drivel.

Because i'm the only one who's made that comparison?

I'm sure others making comparisons have more to say than just "He's about the same size with similar arm, therefor he must be him!"

And if we are going to say that Foles is Flacco then I'd draft him in the 3rd day.

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Yes would take him in round 1.

Along with Collins, Moore, or Barkely...

I'm going to go ahead and say you've never seen Foles play.

Moore in the first? Really?

I've seen a couple games of his but you are saying he's Flacco and Flacco is a moderately better game manager than Sanchez/Cassel. That's not a first round QB.

I am a fan. Reminds me of Brees and the kid is really accurate...

Brees was a 2nd round pick and hoping for Brees is like hoping for the #1 pick in the draft.

What's that got to do with Flacco's success?

Foles is a poor mans Jones.

Jones as in Landry Jones? Hardly.

It has nothing to do with Flacco's success it's just a fact NFL teams go for QB's with that type of build. Foles is an upgrade FWIW but at this point i'd hope we get Barkley.

Please explain how Foles separates himself from Jones.

Other than being about 25 pounds lighter? I think Jones relies on the guys around him to make plays and usually shits the bed when playing road games.

Like Foles doesnt? They play the same offense. Or are we pretending that a quick screen in OU is different than AZ?

Yes this would make sense considering Stoops is from OU. Going to point anymore things that are obvious?

Foles doesn't have 2 stud wide receivers and a stud running back....unless I am missing something.

Foles is putting up decent numbers with half the weapons Jones has...

I think Foles is a better pocket passer than Jones.

Its not hard to put up good numbers in a spread offense.

I don't see what's hard to understand here. He definitely won't go before Luck, Barkley or Jones. RGIII has more upside and is clearly outplaying Foles.

5 QB's going in the first round would be a draft record, and I don't think teams will be fighting over each other to draft a spread QB that isn't overly impressive.

I'm far from the only one that has the opinion that Foles is not a first round talent. If you're too ****ing dumb to figure it out, well have fun looking dumb 6 months from now.

Nice contradiction there.


Foles still has a chance to be the 3rd QB taken and you're wrong we're still in a position to get Barkley.

Foles has about as much of a chance of getting drafted before Luck/Jones/Barkley as Matt Cassel has of winning a SB.

I'll let you in on a secret. That spread QB that isn't overly impressive is Foles.

I never said we weren't in a position to get Barkley. Beating 2 pathetic teams doesn't make the Chiefs even a decent team. Way to make up stances for me though!

Yea Landry Jones has been much more impressive. You're hilarious must be Nick Athans nephew.

Well considering he's leading the #1 team in the country and is in the process of cementing himself as a top 5 pick, yeah.

Your trolling shtick is weak.

If I had to pick I would put Luck at #1, Barkley at #2 and then it would be a toss up between Jones, Foles and RGIII. I am not as sold on Jones as some are.

i wouldn't pick jones with a top15 overall

I don't get the Barkley love. He looks exactly like Cassel to me.

Foles=Kerry Collins

Foles > Barkley

Time to start looking at QBs in later rounds perhaps?

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http://www.rantsports.com/mock-draft...outing-report/

Biography Nick Foles Quarterback Arizona #8 Senior Redshirt

Pros

Arm Strength: Nick Foles has a cannon for an arm along with excellent throwing power.

Durability: Foles does miss games with injuries, but he is a very tough player. He responds to injuries well.

Size: Nick Foles is 6 foot 5. He can weigh in between 235 and 250 pounds. Foles has excellent size for a quarterback.

Scrambler: Nick Foles can be an effective scrambler out of the pocket.

Footwork: Nick Foles puts a lot of emphasis on his footwork.

Intangibles: His intangibles receive mixed reviews. Foles has good fundamentals for a quarterback with the 1 step, 3 step, and 5 step drops. Nick Foles needs to improve his accuracy, mechanics, and ability to throw on the run. I like what I see with Foles in terms of potential so I am open to taking a flyer on him in the 3rd round.

Pump Fakes Defense: One thing Nick Foles can do better than Andrew Luck or Matt Barkley is pump fake defenders. Nick Foles doesn’t pump fake that often, but when he does you really are not sure whether he will throw the football or take off and run.

1 Step Drop: Nick Foles can make a throw off the 1 step drop. If one of the offensive lineman misses an assignment Nick Foles can get rid of the football before pressure gets to him.

Makes Proper Progressions with the 1 Step Drop: Nick Foles can make the proper progressions with the 1 step drop. Foles has a quick release when making progressions from the 1 step drop.

3 Step Drop: Nick Foles can throw the football properly when dropping back in the 3 step drop. Foles displays good short accuracy out of the pocket when he properly executes his 3 step drops when you watch Nick Foles on film.

Makes Proper Progressions with the 3 Step Drop: Nick Foles can read the proper progressions with the 3 step drop if the offensive line buys him enough time to stay in the pocket.

5 Step Drop: Nick Foles can make the 5 step drop very effectively. Nick Foles most effective passes are usually when he takes the 5 step drop out of Arizona’s shotgun spread no huddle, gimmick offense. Foles also provides good medium distance accuracy on his passes when taking the 5 step drop before firing the football.

Makes Proper Progressions with the 5 Step Drop: Nick Foles can make the proper progressions with the 5 step drop if he is given enough time in the pocket to throw the football.

Pocket Passer: Foles is a pocket passer who can make plays happen if his offensive line buys him time in the pocket.

High Character: Nick Foles said very positive things about his quarterback coach during a practice session which shows he is a bright quarterback with high character.

Production: Nick Foles provides good production in terms of putting up points and providing touchdowns for his team.

Potential: Nick Foles has the potential and upside to be a pro bowl quarterback, but he is a project quarterback who needs at least 2 years on the bench as a backup.

Cons

Gets Rattled Under Pressure: Nick Foles loses composure and gets rattled when he is under pressure.

Learning Rate: Nick Foles hasn’t thrown any complex west coast NFL plays. Foles can make the proper progressions, but how fast Foles can learn a complex NFL type play is still a major question mark at this point.

Football IQ: He just doesn’t recognize coverages yet. He’s thrown 19 interceptions in 2 years. Foles just doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes.

Awareness: Nick Foles is going to need to adjust his field vision once he starts playing in an NFL pro style offense.

Accuracy: Nick Foles is way too inconsistent with his accuracy. He does well when making the proper throwing steps like the 3 step and 5 step drops. Nick Foles struggles on other plays with throwing accuracy when you watch him on film.

7 Step Drop: Nick Foles struggles making throws out of the 7 step drop. He needs to improve his accuracy when throwing deep passes. It looks like Nick Foles is checking deep passes into random areas like a Captain Check Down quarterback.

Makes Progressions on the 7 Step Drop: Nick Foles struggles to make proper progressions on the 7 step drop.

Mechanics: Foles throwing motion when releasing the football is inconsistent at times. He also holds the football the wrong way sometimes. Nick Foles mechanics have to improve and get more consistent in the NFL.

Throws on the Run: Nick Foles struggles to throw on the run when throwing out of the pocket despite his ability to scramble.

Play Action Passes: Nick Foles has a tough time selling play action passes. Nick Foles playcalling will be very basic and predictable if he does not improve his ability to sell the play action pass.

My thoughts on Nick Foles

I personally believe it comes down to where Nick Foles gets drafted. If he gets drafted in the top 10 and is rushed into a starting job right away he will bust. If Foles gets drafted in the late first to early 2nd round he could be a pro bowl caliber quarterback if he sits out for a few years like Aaron Rodgers.

Foles was a former Michigan State quarterback who transferred to Arizona. Foles has really done a good job with the Wildcats. If Foles came out as a junior I would have preferred Foles over Gabbert to be honest.

Nick Foles is a 2nd to 3rd round project at this point that will probably get drafted in the late first to early 2nd round because of his cannon arm and size as a quarterback. Foles has the upside and potential to become like a Ben Roethlisberger quarterback, but he is a raw project that needs to be groomed at this point.

Foles is better than Gabbert and he may have more potential than Newton. The odds of Foles maximizing his immense potential is heavily stacked against him at this point.

He is not starter material yet at this point. Both Newton and Gabbert knew they would be 2nd-5th round picks had either quarterback returned for their senior year.

I was just going to post a reply and not read the great wall of text but when I scrolled down my eyes were drawn to this gem...

"Foles is better than Gabbert and he may have more potential than Newton."

WTF?

How can anyone compare the intangibles of both Foles and Newton and say they would take Foles based on potential?

Foles is a guy Pioli would go for just because he's a big pocket passer.

That's where it ends for Foles.

Foles status will be dictated in how well he does in the Senior Bowl.

When is the senior bowl.

I could google it, butts... :clap:

January 28th

I watch a lot of PAC-12 games and have liked what I have seen from Foles over the years (he was on a dogshit team this year, though). I am in a minority here, I think, but I would be really happy with Foles if they couldn't get one of the top 3 QBs. I think he will end up being a Matt Ryan type QB in the NFL.

I like him, would take him in the 1st...

I hope you're a better pilot than an armchair GM.

Newton was going to be a mid-round pick if he returned to school??? I guess anyone can write a scouting report.

Fantastic Pilot... The rest, well I never claimed to be a draftabulator....

Has he ever played for the Redwoods?

"Gets Rattled Under Pressure: Nick Foles loses composure and gets rattled when he is under pressure."

To me, it is becoming apparent that how a QB handles himself under pressure is one of the most important criteria. Forget the combine and forget campus practices where everything is scripted.

What separates Cassel from being a good QB - no composure under pressure. They need a guy who can calmly step up, buy some time, keep his eyes down field and make a throw. No Foles, no Jones.

I've honestly never seen that out of Foles. To me, he seems to play his best when the game is on the line (like the way he brought the team back in the USC game this year).

Stanzi was horrible about that in his junior yet but his senior season he was ice.

That seems to be the major problem with KC QBs.

Montana - cool as ice.
Grbac - deer in headlights, plus a wimp.
Gannon - could buy time with his feet.
Huard - fetal
Croyle - composed but would break with gentle wind.
Thigpen - not a good QB, but his mobility enabled chicken shit salad to be made.
Cassel - no composure.

If the report is off of this year, I think Foles was just trying to do too much. He had a shit team around him, with one marginal receiver (Criner) and no running game. The Arizona defense was awful, so he knew he had to score every time he went out there. It's tough to take a lot from this season.

How the :cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss: do you insert Youtube clips?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhaehG4uWoY

Oh well...waiting for 2011 hilights.

I didn't get to watch Foles much this year, I loved him last year. Be interesting to see where he ends up going.

Everyone looks good in highlight videos.

That's why it is called a highlight...rather than lowlight.

Dumbass.