This one ain't on Cassel
 

No protection, no running game, no defese to speak of....

Ironically he was about the only one who came to play

He was throwing some pathetic balls with no pressure

Oh Pete. Pete Pete Pete.

He had no time. This was the worse oline performance I've seen in some time.

Are you ****ing serious?

Ummmm, he is by no means innocent. He played like crap when given time. But in his defense he did have some dropped passes and was under pressure alot this game.

"on Cassel"? No. Team loss. But Cassel was still ****ing pathetic.

As I said in another thread, go back and look at the sack at the 11-minute mark in the third. Perfect illustration of our "franchise" QB making those around him look worse than they really are.

I posted in the game thread, but it bears repeating. If for nothing else to erase this false dichotomy.

It's not that Cassel is the ONLY problem, it's that he's ALWAYS a problem.

He played really good. Klein was taking notes.

From the plays I saw on Redzone he seemed to overthrow the receiver on 90% of his throws.

Perfection.

I am not saying Cassel played great..just the rest of the team looked like dog shit in a torn baggy

Agreed.

I am okay with Haley, but I really would like a better OC. I would also like a better offensive line coach.

yes it was all cassel's fault

if we wouldve had Stanzi in there he wouldve had 4 TD's and we wouldve won easily

a good Qb should be able to overcome a CRAP defense that cant stop the miami dolphins and a horrible O-line that cant protect the QB and a running game that cant get yards AND also playcalling that is mind bogglingly stupid, and also wouldnt cause his receivers to drop so many balls. A good QB would win despite all things things. Win on his OWN.

/CP

wait till you guys see Stanzi or Palko in a game. Remember Croyle ? Today is was everybodys mistake. Defense played like shit too.

3 points and the team lead TOP.

He's in line for blame as well.

I don't get why people want to apologize for his play all the ****ing time.

It is amazing how this board overlooks the absolute horrendous showing by the rest of the team so that they can point the finger at Cassel.

Ridiculous.

As did Cassel. Cassel took 5 sacks to day. Just off the top of my head I can pin 3 on him alone.

he's the franchise ****ing QB


but it's never on him....he's a piece of shit that is taking us no where....but draft a RT in the first round next year and everything will work out...

the **** it isn't. cassel continues to hold this ****ing team back.

Difference with those 2 guys is we know they wouldn't be around next year.

We are strapped with Cassel and his shitty play.

He was rattled with all the sacks and hurries. Can't pin the loss only on his shoulders. The WHOLE team screwed this pooch.

Find one person making the argument you so eloquently refuted.

A couple of Cassel's flings are still in orbit.

ROFL

He is a damn flinger, to be sure.

FAX

If you are not a part of the solution, then you are a part of the problem...

Richardson missed so many wide-open WRs today that it wasn't even funny.

took? Did you see the pressure? How many did he avoid??? Damn man

awesome , here come the vultures......I guess they are always waiting....circling

LMAO.

They smell the decaying flesh of a loss... never fails.

Yes, I saw the pressure. I also witnessed a QB avoid it and completely forget he was suppose to throw the ball. I also witnessed a QB shit his pants on a blitz that was picked up and side step right into a Miami tackle for another sack.

The whole team played like shit. Cassel is a part of that team. This is absolutely on him and everyone else.

He was very jumpy today.

ROFL

Mitch and Lenny trying to break down the game.

It's like describing a turd ... "Well, there's a piece of corn." ... "And it sure is brown." ... "It circled before it sunk, too."

FAX

wrong

everyone knows we played like shit today, but QB is the most important position...

he's the franchise, he's being paid to make plays...any play...just once see the wide open wr when you scramble you worthless pussy...

all the rest of the positions are easy to upgrade in the draft or fa, QB is not for a franchise and a fanbase that would rather not inconvenience themselves with the real root of the problem...

let's spend another decade complaining about the ol instead...

and pawnsmoker is a douchebag...just wanted to say that about anyone who thinks Cassel is a good QB

This loss is not on Cassel.

It's on Richardson and Crennel.

The problem with Cassel is that he doesn't elevate the play around him.

When the team sucks, he sucks right along with them.

Wow. If people can't see that Cassel needs to be replaced then you don't watch the games.

everything sucked

from players to coaches

so hard to cheer for this team...even with the ups you know the downs will come sooner than later and there is never anything to look forward to

...I was tricked into looking forward to today...worked 50 hours last week...was exhausted last night, didn't hardly sleep...woke up at 8 AM...played some video games to pass some time...

went to a Chiefs bar...and just flat misery for 2.5 quarters before I just tabbed out and left

awful

And injuries. And zero depth throughout. And damn poor cheerleading.

I didn't see a single pyramid.

FAX

Bingo. Cassel is what he is. Players around them have to do their job or it gets real ugly.

Usually but no always, when the rest of the team is on Cassel plays pretty well. Not always.

Damn I want a franchise QB.

At least the Chiefs will be on Sportscenter tomorrow.

it's always on the QB in the nfl


always

Cassel wasn't to blame early.

But again, as I said in another thread, Eli had the same situation last week. Almost identical to Cassel. The difference is in the 4th quarter, he turned it up a notch and fought back.He's spoiled. In most games, he gets 3 and outs and the exhausted defense continues to bail him out. In fact, most top tier QBs have a handful of games in a season where they put a ton of pressure on their QB to put 30+ points to win the game.

Cassel had a bunch of opportunities in the second half to claw the team back. I'm not saying that's the reason we lost, but it's really deflating to know that 9 times out of 10, when the team is down by 2-3 scores early, the game is over.

With our pass protection today I'm not sure any QB would have stood much of a chance

Top QB's would have read the defense, called an audible, and got the ball out quick. But Cassel looks around, see's an all out blitz, and shakes it off like he has time to let his receiver go 10 yards downfield.

because our defense really did the job today

it wasn't on Cassel today

it was on everyone, especially the coaches

the playcalling was atrocious...the defensive schemes were terrible

did we even game plan?

disgusting effort

You can draft and sign 21 players that elevate the play of the QB, or you can draft a franchsie QB that can elevate the play of the team around him.

And ours was outplayed by a wide margin by Matt Moore.

MATT MOORE.

LMAO

I'm going to enjoy reading the excuses for the next 48 hours or so, though.

Do watch the Packers play ever? Their oline is worse than ours but Rodgers is a bad ass and makes them look good because he's a great QB. It's all about the QB.

no excuses for Cassel

but what the **** was he supposed to do today?

our team is built to have our defense win games

our defense and scheme was terrible

and to boot...our offensive playcalling was flat out atrocious

and our line was unbelievably bad

so blaming everything on Cassel is just dumb

It's hard to say. Our o-line was bad, but Miami was blitzing all day.

Try throwing a blitz on Brady. He's going to carve you up all day long.

I wonder how much of our problem would be fixed by a QB who was consistent at spotting the hot route. One of the reasons Brady doesn't get touched nearly as much is because defenses are afraid to throw pressure at him.

Someone buy this man the 2010 Green Bay Season DVDs.

We were completely dominated in every aspect of the game.

By a winless team.

I'm looking forward to next week, though. We're going to send Tebow to his maker.

FAX

Here's what I'll say: If you say that a team all-out blitzing Cassel removes him from responsibility for his poor performance, fine. But other teams will all-out blitz every game, and Cassel will never be held responsible. If blitzing was so effective that a QB absolutely shut down the way Cassel did today, it'd be done every play, every single day. Good QBs LOVE blitzing, as it's an invitation for huge yardage. Cassel continually showed little to no mental fortitude. He didn't call many audibles (that I could tell), he didn't put his head up after avoiding a sack, he didn't take appropriate opportunities to throw it away, and most importantly didn't show more composure when he knew they'd start blitzing consistently.

and i'm not asking cassel to win this game...he sucks, he couldn't do that

i'm just asking him to do something to give the team some life, make it competitive....earn your damn paycheck


but we can't even ask that of the piece of shit cassel...our RT sucks so Cassel can suck too....

Or the 2008, 2009 or 2010 Pittsburgh Steelers Season DVD's.

Had Cassel played our defense today he would have ripped it up. No pressure, wide open receivers all day.

KC defense made Moore look awesome, not like he was making miraculous plays.

These two statements are contradictory.

Ever stop to think that with real QB play, the defenses wouldn't have to exhaust themselves to protect our QB from his consistent 3 and outs?

Completely agree.

But, guess what? That is about 80% of the QB's in the league.

He is just an average QB. That is what he is. To expect more is dumb on our part.

I would love to get a top 5 QB. That isn't happening anytime soon. Maybe next offseason, but I doubt it.

The reality is that with decent offensive line play, decent defense and WR's that didn't drop the ball or fail to adjust to the ball...

The Chiefs win.

I like the cut of your jib Mr.FAX.

(no homo)

That's a key point, in my view, Mr. Stanley Nickles.

We can expect a ton of blitzing from now on.

And some really, really high throws.

I almost feel sorry for Cassel.

FAX

At this point I would love just an average QB. I don't consider a game manager an average QB. When you have to protect yourself from your QB its time to wake the **** up.

meh

I was so angry at the team I tabbed out after we went down 21-3...I knew we were done

wasn't mad at Cassel (I already know he's mediocre at his very finest)

I was more mad Crennel refuses to ever blitz (ever)...that we let Matt Moore look like a HOF'er (really, I'm sick of this Hali or bust pass rush...every other team can blitz but we just invite QB's to pick apart our shitty soft zones)...I was mad about 2nd and 12 PA passes...about terrible playcalling...

it was bad...really bad...and I mostly blame the coaching...terrible schemes...terrible playcalls...terrible game plan..

god when we are bad we are TRULY bad...

Yup.

Not that this is close to any excuse, but I told my buddies this week that Miami was a lot better than their record. They completely manhandled New York last week for 3 quarters. Matt Moore and the resurgence of Reggie Bush are nothing to sneeze at. I have a feeling they'll be a tough out for a lot of teams in the second half of the season. I compared them to the 2010 Buffalo Bills.

Really? Really?

Give me stanzi. I dont care if we lose the rest of the games with season. Id rather not get a few more meaningless wins that locks that piece of crap under center for 3 more years

that could have worked had we lost against San Diego

today...

the defense gave us ZERO...NADA...NOTHING

they only thing they did was take our crowd out of the game early

terrible defensive effort...and I don't entirely blame the players

what kind of ****ing game plan was that?

I approve this message. But of course dumb fools are going to try and continue to blame him for this loss. Go Chiefs!
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After this abomination, the Goats will overlook us, now.

That's key.

FAX

Cassel lovers will now remove their legal pads, #2 pencils... AND WRITE THIS SHIT DOWN.

Don't.


The man can afford to wipe his ass with $100 bills.

I'm out though...I'm done thinking about the Chiefs for the day...gonna enjoy some other football games without wanting to kill myself

Blake Griffin couldn't adjust to Cassel's balls.

The only people who need to do that work at 1 Arrowhead Drive.

The whole team is utter shit. While Cassel is the largest nugget of corn in the pile, using him as a scapegoat for the rest of the untalented hacks on this team is a laughable deflection classic of CP. The reality is the OL and DL are among the worst in the league, while backup quality players starting elsewhere generally bring down the play of those who at least belong on an NFL field, albeit usually in an inflated role. The most evident failure week in and week out is the corners, namely Flowers and Carr, getting CLOWNED by all kinds of receivers, including no-name scrubs. The odd great game from either is the oddity among constant embarrassment.

The night games gonna be a humdinger.

And mentioned in the Tonight Sow.

This one is on Bowe, Breaston, and Baldwin. If they could have adjusted more proficiently, Cassel would have looked much better.

The sad part is we have probably NEVER had a more talented WR group in a time where offense is allowed all the leeway.

We need an almost perfect OL to give Cassel a 747 size window to look and throw through.

True dat, that Executive of the Decade trophy needs a few good rubs with Sta-Bright.