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A guy on Sportsnation just said....
If the Patriots didn't have Tom Brady they would be the Chiefs (no playmakers).
Hurts but it's kind of true. |
what a broad and ridiculous statement.
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You start believing Herm now?
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If the patriots had Hali, Carr, and Flowers, they'd be a great team.
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Haynesworth is a cancer
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Can we have their TEs
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Can we trade QB's for the rest of the season, just to see if he's right?
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I might be an idiot, but I think if the Chiefs and Pats switched QBs today, KC would be the better team.
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it's true.
Imagine what a good QB could do for this team. |
That Welcher dude would be nice too
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The Chiefs have a better team as long as you ignore the QB. That position is more important than the rest of them combined.
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We have no play-makers? Uhhh ok.
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if we had Tom Brady we'd be 13 game winners and Super Bowl favorites (along with the Packers)
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Woman stealing shitass
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What a stupid, stupid, statement. On so many levels.
wish i could get paid to make stupid, stupid comments. |
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The Patriots are MUCH MUCH MUCH worse than the Chiefs without Tom Brady.
If we had Tom Brady, we might be undefeated right now honestly. |
Chiefs are the colts with a better secondary.
Brady would make the Chiefs a legit SuperBowl pick. |
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(pay up sucker) |
The Chiefs are a better balanced team then I have ever witnessed. It's not lopsided on defense or offense talent. That mother****ing QB postion :cuss:
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it's amazing what an elite QB can do for a team. Without Brady they would be even worse, but even with him, their defense is so terrible this season they won't contend. You still need a good defense regardless of who your QB is.
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The Pats have no playmakers? Umm Hernandez, Welker, Gronkowski(sp). They have a fair share. Stupid comment.
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2011 Chiefs with Brady > 2011 Patriots with Brady
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Let's go Da'Bears! Will someone please start a MNF thread? TIA & GB http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif |
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same could be said about 20+ other teams. Why limit it to the chiefs?
Also, the patriots have fallen from grace. Back in 2007-2008, when cassel was with the patriots....he still excelled thanks largely to the supporting cast he had in NE. I think cassels problems are with the coaching. Sure, he shares some of the blame, but we've had 3 different OC's in the past 3 years. Mix that with a shoddy OL and few playmakers to boot, and we have the perfect storm. |
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It would be nice if any of you who call this a incredibly stupid comment would elaborate. IMO, if they don't have Brady, they are actually worse than the Chiefs, but really all he is saying is that without Brady, the Patriots are a 6-10 to 9-7 team. Which is being pretty generous.
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I thought I heard this on ESPN this morning, and didn't hear the no playmakers part.
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It's kind of a stupid statement I heard it myself. Sort of true though.
but two of our playmakers are on IR Charles, Moeaki Baldwin has played in 3 games you can't label him a playmaker although I think he will be McCluster is a playmaker in his own way. kickoffs, punts, reverses So really the only playmaker we have now is bowe Next year this team will be loaded with playmakers...especially with a new QB. |
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they are all on IR... |
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If the chiefs had brady we would win 4 straight superbowls. Im not kidding in the slightest on that.
The closest tom has had to bowe was randy, and with baldwin, he would basically have 2. Add a serious running threat with charles and thats multiple championships. |
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You should be better than the Pats with Brady as the QB of the chiefs. You've been drafting high enough.
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And honestly, I don't think the full potential for this team is fully understood, atleast offensively. We have no identity on offense right now, and that is a problem. Its partly why this team is a mediocre team. IF we get the right OC, and adjustments made to the OL, this team can be scarey good imo. Sure, cassel isnt going to set NFL records as our QB. But he can be a successful game time manager if he has the right supporting cast around him, like he had back in NE. There are several issues facing the offense, but we do have some srs firepower on offense as well. The triple B-threats we have on offense can do some srs damage to opposing secondaries. Once we get Moeaki back, along with Charles, this offense has some srs weapons. The issue imo then becomes the OL and OC. Get those issues fixed (goodbye richardson and Muir) we can finally give Cassel the protection and plays he needs to develop into a legit NFL QB. I remember Vermiel talking about how we managed to have the dominate offense we had back when he coached. He said it all started with the OL. The OL is the foundation for your offense. If you have a strong OL, you will have a strong offense regardless of who you have at RB and QB. Just look back at our offense under Vermiel. Derrick Blaylock looked like a pro-bowler for christ sake! Even Trent Green was a top 5 QB back then. We are a couple players away imo from being a srs contender in this league. |
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Dex just is horrible. To call him a "playmaker" is ridiculous. If we only have 1 now and 2 injured, how will we "be loaded" next year? |
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if the chiefs had a better offense and defense we would be a better team
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if they fall behind by two-three scores, forget it. (except for the colts game, they wanted to lose to stay frontrunners for Luck.) |
Carlos Dansby did an interview with a sports reporter a few days ago & they were talking about it on my local sports radio yesterday. He basically said the defense could see very early on in that game that Cassel was completely lost trying to figure out all the different looks they were throwing at him and they knew they had him.
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Luck pays its dividends. It's all about being lucky when it comes to getting really good qbs. Unfortunately, Chiefs haven't had their share.
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As I watched another embarrassing game by Matt Cassel I was thinking the Chiefs should see if we could play the game with an all-time QB. M. Moore 17/23 244 10.6 3 0 147.5 We could have used a performance like this Matt Moore are you ****ing kidding me???? |
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This was Cowherd, guys.
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His opinion holds as much weight as one. The guy is ****ing clueless. |
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It's very old school, almost like baseball. It's like there's some kind of magical skill that one picks up through one's ass sitting on the bench during games. That's the stuff that turns young project QBs into great ones. Oh, wait, that's tuberculosis. Nevermind. I get magic and tuberculosis confused all the time. |
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vs. TB he was 4/8 for 34yds 0TD 0INT vs. BAL he was 6/12 for58yds 0TD 1INT vs. STL he was 8/14 for 121yds. 1TD 0INT total he was 18/34 for 213yds 1TD 1INT He did not play in the final game against Green Bay. That what the final "ramping up" game. Cassel played quite a bit, then Palko played the rest. The majority of the board seemed pleasantly surprised with Stanzi. Namely his pocket awareness, escapability, accuracy, and ability to go through his reads. Kind of easy to be impressed when you look at the two QB's in front of him. He did pretty well despite being under CONSTANT pressure and his receivers dropping quite a few passes. Actually, his INT was a tipped ball by his receiver, Horne I beleive. |
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Just goes to show the national media thinks they can make blanket statements about teams they have no information about just because they don't think the audience will either.
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Anyways, the more MNF/ESPN/Sunday night games we have, the more love we will get. That usually means that we have to win more games because that is virtually the only way you get on MNF. |
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Ravens-Dilfer/Bucs-Brad Johnson aren't going to win SBs anymore. Quote:
McSuckster is not a playmaker. He's a wasted draft pick. |
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This is a special kind of stupid. True fan stupid. The Chiefs through the 90s had one of the top O-Lines in the league, and among the better defenses. They could pound the rock, control the clock, created turnovers, intimidate offenses. The one thing they couldn't do. Throw the ball. QB wasn't nearly as important then as it is now, but it was still, even then, even as far back as I've watched football, the most important position on the field. It's no coincidence that all the great teams all had one single thing in common. They had great QBs. Teams like the Bucs, the Ravens, the 85 Bears, teams that played defense had outstanding O-Line play and good running games all only won 1 SB. They all had one thing in common. They had marginal, at best, QB play. Games are won or lost in the trenches. Championships are won under center. |
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Moral of the story: promoting offensive line coaches to OC has not worked for the Chiefs in recent history. |
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But lets keep trying to win a SB with mediocre QB play. It's so obvious that's how championships are won. |
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YOUR CASTLE HATRED HAS BLINDED YOU! |
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I love blanket statements with no basis in reality. Just looking at this season--not his body of work, but THIS season--frankly, Brady has tailed off and is a direct contributor to the past two losses. If they didn't have Brady? They'd probably still be 5-3. He hasn't won a single game by himself. He doesn't take the field on offense and play 1-on-11. |
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