When is Haley fired?
 

We're about to go on an epic losing streak.

Do you fire him at 4-6? 4-7? 4-8? 4-9? 4-10?

How many losses in a row does it take?

4-10 and he's gone.

End of the season.

Zorn and Romeo aren't the answers.

I'd like to see what Zorn and Stanzi can do before the season is up.

Better use of our time than watching Haley grow into an epic hobo while Cassel serves up more 85-yard passing days.

I'd say he will be the last of the coaches to get fired but it's time for him to walk. He has failed miserably this year, injuries or not. The team never looks ready play. We play scared. We call bullshit plays. We make losing teams look like world beaters in our own house.

He saved his job simply by inserting palko

End of the season based on how badly he finishes up.

Losing our defensive and offensive superstars before the season buys him some slack -- hopefully not too much slack.

The Chiefs just arean't a good team. I wish they were, but Cassel is awful. I don't care if we get Luck or Manning or ??? but we need to get someone that can maximize the other weapons on this team and then shore up the line that is equal parts slow, stupid, and old.

If Haley is fired before Cassel, he deserves 5 minutes in a fenced meadow with a shotgun and a nude Pioli in severance pay.

I've been a Haley fan, and even now I still like him.

However, if I see Cassel starting next week I'm done. I'm so ****ing tired of watching my team get trashed. It's ****ing pathetic. We lose to the worst teams in the worst ways.

Either BENCH CASSEL FOR LIFE or Fire Haley!

The only loss where it was close was against SD...every other ****ing loss going back into last year, has been hands down bend over and take it. It's ****ing a disgrace.

I'd LOVE to see more Palko. Even if he sucks.

I doubt he gets canned before the season is over, but if he doesn't turn it around then he's done as soon as it is over.

His only chance to save his ass is switch QBs and hope it creates a spark for the team. I hope Stanzi get's a shot this year.

**** Haley if he don't switch QBs now.

Yes.

Ultimately, he's going to pay the price for several of Pioli's mistakes: 1. trading for Cassel. 2. providing insufficient depth to the roster as a whole.

On his own, though, Haley hasn't done enough to deserve to keep his job, so it's difficult to get too upset about it.

Haley will either be fired at the end of the season, or when he shoves Matt Cassel up Pioli's ass. Whichever comes first.

Haley wont be fired mid season.

I said it in another thread, if the FO was as big on Stanzi as they said, why not insert him now?

Perfect time with this 5 game stretch coming up to find out what the kid has got. Sink or Swim bro.

End of the season... if then. We'll still have injurys and schedule to blame. Not going to be surprised at all if he's back on a short extension next year.

This is how I feel. I would like to see Haley get a fair shot, but he really hasn't done anything with the shit he has so it's time to blow it up. Entire coaching staff should get their pink slips in the off season.

I want Piolio gone too

Explain what the point of waiting til the end of the season is.

His contract is guaranteed and he will not be fired.

He has nothing to lose now
so if you don't do it soon
He will go mad hatter & win

You have to keep in mind Pioli's hands are tied to a point. Clarky wants to recoup some of the monies he spent on the stadium so don't expect any spending for good FA's anytime soon.

Hey, we're 0-1 in this quarter, so no worries.

Explain what the point of firing him now is.

What's the point of firing him before the season is over?

ROFL :shake:

Nothing, but the Hunts aren't the type of owners who want to be in the news for being the first team to fire their head coach.

This. Pioli seems to think you can only add 5 or 6 pieces per year to get depth. Hell this years draft which was viewed by many to be a very solid draft, has 2 guys playing. 2 ****ing guys.


Time for a change. Wiegmann needs to retire. He gets physically manhandled. Gaither at RT. Richardson is bad, why, keep running him out there.

****. I'm so tired of this preferential treatment to players who suck.

Hudson,Stanzi,Powe need to all be active next week and play. IMO this is a great time to throw Stanzi in there. THis 5 game stretch will tell you all you need to know about the guy. What is the point of running Cassel out there? You knwo what you have in the guy.

Sink.

Andrew Luck would sink with this upcoming 5 game schedule and the performance of the rest of the team and coaching.

You get someone else to make a case for being the next head coach.

You see which players pack it in and who are worthy of keeping their jobs.

You show the fans you ****ing care and aren't just a fat guy in a suit lining your pockets with Hunt money and your gut with KC BBQ.

i'm not doing the math, but i figure when we get beat by 40+ by the pats monday, on national television and ruin pioli's big homecoming... that will be the end for haley.

luckily, cassel will still be around...

Haley is just as inept as Cassel is at the QB position. God I hate Haley....

NE has the worst D in the league.

So what's the point of keeping Haley the rest of the year? Let's hear it.

At home, we lost to a team with 2 completions. But I have complete confidence in the coaching staff.

Laying it solely on Haley is foolish. He's a bad-to-mediocre head coach, no doubt, but he's been saddled with a piss awful QB by a terrible GM hired by one of the worst owners in the league.

It's a systemic problem.

Interim coaches dont make a case for anything.

Then **** it draft one of the qbs in this draft. Look at what Dalton did today against the Steelers.

Shit start Stanzi against the Pats. They have the worst secondary in the league, why not get him some confidence.

The fact that we though it was a good idea to pay/play a qb who didnt even play the position in college makes me wanna ****ing vomit.

... And we still won't score a TD on them.

I just can't see him getting fired. A great QB makes an average HC look like a genius while a subpar QB makes a genius coach look bad.

I realize all of this, of course, but I've accepted the fact that Pioli and Cassel aren't going anywhere for at least two years.

Fans want Cassel benched first. If we don't improve, then obviously Haley is done.

THis. To be honest I don't know what kind of coach he is. With the qb play we have gotten it's hard to tell.

It effects all aspects of the game for us. The way we are forced to call plays, play defense, everything.

You're insane. Clark cares about money. Cassel next year = empty stadium.

I am listening to Haley's PC and either he knows he is getting fired or knows he is safe because just to listening to him he is not pissed off and it sounds like everything is ok.

To help the Chiefs draft position?

Why not just throw Stanzi in the fire, Cassel is what he is, dogshit.

I hope he is gone next year

If Fox can bench his starting QB his first season, I have faith that Haley will bench his starter after 3 seasons of shit.

It is about to get to the point where something is gonna have to happen. Hopefully Cassel really ****ed up his hand today.

Other than the fact that firing him now isn't going to change anything, there isn't one.

Hunt hates KC enough to make sure he stays...

He's definitely a mediocre coach at best, and most likely quite shitty. He's an OC hired past his point of competence. I have no problem with firing him and firing him in 10 minutes, but the accountability does not rest with him. This is one of the worst organizations in professional sports. Terrible organizations don't just have bad coaches. They have bad players, and bad management because they have bad ownership.

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Yep. I really wish the Hunts would sell the team to someone who is willing to pay to field a winner.

18 years since we won a play off game. That is unexcusable especially in the parity driven NFL

Cassel needs to go before Haley goes. If Haley is gone and Cassel is still around, then I am truthfully done with the team until Pioli is gone.

Like the Eagles have paid? It's not the Clark Hunt is cheap, it's that we have a shitty QB and have drafted poorly.

RIght now I am hoping for tomorrow!

It absolutely is a problem from the top down. Our owner, while I hate to say it, shows the same signs as his father in not giving a **** about winning.

Our GM... well you've said all that needs to be said.

The QB..I won't even start.

Nope. There are tons of idiots in attendance at Arrowhead wearing his jersey every week who think we need a RT.

Haley goes... Give Pioli another year.

I think Haley is a good coach with flaws that would likely be reversed with a qb he trusts. his gameplan more often than not is used to work around the qb. I'm still convinced that thomas Jones gets snaps purely for pass pro reasons.

and pioli can easily turn this team around with a real qb. he has been fail because of hIs arrogance in forcing Cassel on this team with no backup plan. but otherwise, this team is a qb and a few healthy players away from being a good team.

Oh I agree with you. I just....I dunno man.

The NFL is a cycle. You suck long enough or at the right time and get a franchise qb who will carry you as long as he can. Then he will retire and the cycle starts all over again. Right now the NFL is ALL about the qb, other positions don't really matter. Until we get one it doesn't really matter what kind of talent we have.


Like we talked about a few weeks back. 1-21, when the Chiefs are fully healthy, they are as talented as just about anybody. Problem is we are starting a qb that probably wouldn't start for many college teams.

I believe that Pioli has put together a pretty good roster. The injuries have really ****ed us in some spots, and we are really young and don't have much depth anywhere. The fact that he thought Matt Cassel could be an NFL qb worries me alot tho.

Teams in the NBA, NFL, and NHL that haven't won a playoff game/series since 1993 who have also been around since 1993:

Phoenix Coyotes, Cincinnati Bengals, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs.

No argument there, but this team has no excuse to sit on tens of millions in cap space, only to sign the Anthony Bechts and Sabby Piscatellis of the world.

IF he keeps trotting Cassel out there there's no defense of Haley
Even if he has to threaten to walkout to do it

Christ. And you can likely remove the Lions and Bengals from that list after this year.

The funny thing about that is the NFL is supposed to be the league with parity and they make up most of that list.

He'll finish the season.

After these last 2 games, I don't care if he's replaced. I'm off the bandwagon

How many rushing yards does Denver have today if they're not forced to use a third string/FB as a #1 back?

Though Cassel is the poster child, Pioli's FA acquisitions and drafts have been underwhelming at best. And spare me the Berry is hurt line.

The second round in '10 was and is a joke. Many wanted Jimmy Graham instead of Moeaki, and the continued disinterest in getting a NT is baffling at best. And let's not get started about Jackson.

They are cheap I think they are last in the NFL IIRC.

Bengals will be lucky to make the playoffs.

Today was their first game of the season against either Pitt or Baltimore.

Tomorrow would be a long time too late.

Some people on this board are just ****ing dumb.Pioli hired Haley what makes you think pioli would hire the right guy?

Agree with most of your post. I think the Berry injury really hurt the defense as he has the ability to become the top safety in he league this year. IMO Jackson is our best defensive lineman right now. He's playing much better.

The defense we run revolves around you having a block gobbling NT. One who can push the pocket and make plays. The fact that we have brought in dipshits to play that spot beffudles me.

In the NFL, it's all about the qb. Until we get a good one it really doesn't matter what kind of talent we have.

It's okay to have a bad coach.

It's okay to have a bad gm.

It's okay to have bad players.

It's not okay to have a bad owner.

What do you do if you have a bad owner? You know nobody could get rid of him. You're pretty much screwed. All you can do is hope that he just sells the team.

Haley and Cassel will be back. I have this NASTY felling.

I'll make ANY bet that Haley does not get fired.