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Tim Tebow is a shitty quarterback.
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He is an excellent fullback though. That's all that matters.
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For the first 3 quarters. But in crunch time there isn't a QB in the NFL that I would rather have than Tim Tebow. He isn't afraid of the moment and that causes the people around him to not be afraid either.
When we got the ball at the 5 yard line, with 5 minutes to go, I 100% believed that we were going to score a TD and win the game. Even though we hadn't been able to get a first down all game long, I just knew that we were going to march 95 yards to victory. |
Vince Young all over again
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You just want to be a part of something
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He knows how to score on the Chiefs.
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Those last minute heroics will be nothing more than garbage time points then. |
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All the Chiefs have to do, is let Aaron's little bro declare this draft. The Cassel sessions for tutoring, will only be film of Aaron, vs all opponents, this season.
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Rodgers is one of the best running QBs in the NFL, you jackass. Not only that, he can actually make plays from the pocket and outside of it with his arm.
The only thing that Tebow does well he arguably does little to no better than Rodgers. Good God, you're as good off having Jacquizz Rodgers at QB as Tebow. Both throw the ball equally well. |
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Give me a fugging break. He's a gimick at best and good for you that he's 4-1 but it not becasue of his play. The Denver defense is by far the biggest reason. Tebow will never win you the AFC much less the SB. |
I love that he upsets non-Broncos fans so much.
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LMAO @ knowmo
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This board's obsession with Tebow is getting a little weird, at this point.
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Okay, as Jack Webb said, "just the facts":
1.) Knowmo clearly huffs paint. Just off the top of my head, "in crunch time" I'd rather have Brady, Rodgers, Brees, P. Manning (if he was healthy), and probably Rapistberger. 2.) Tim Tebow is not "a shitty quarterback". He's not a very good passer (at least at the moment). Time will tell if he gets better at that. But being the quarterback is not just about throwing pretty passes; there are other factors as well. It's also about clock management, decision-making, your ability to scramble, your ability to win, the amount of confidence your teammates have in you... all areas where Tebow seems, for some reason, to have advantages. The buzzword is "intangibles". He seems to have 'em. Frankly, given the choice between a pure passer who can't do anything else right, or a guy like Tebow who seems to do everything else except pass the ball, I'd take the Tebow guy. You can teach someone how to throw the ball; you can't teach someone how to win, how to be cool under pressure, how to rally his teammates, etc.,. Cool is Brady driving the ball in the '01 SB and then spiking it and calmly flipping it to the ref. Cool is Joe Montana in the waning minutes of the Super Bowl, pointing out John Candy. And cool is doing jack shit all day and getting the ball back with 5 minutes to go, on your 5, and getting the winning TD pretty much by yourself. If Matt Cassel ever did that, there'd be jizz covering the midwest. 3.) Having said that, life for a running quarterback usually doesn't turn out so well. Even the supposed best-of-the-best (Dogkiller) can be figured out eventually... or, at least, beaten into submission. Running quarterbacks not only have a game you can counter (if you have the coaching brainpower and personnel), but they get killed physically. If he doesn't learn to throw the ball without taking hits, his career will last only a few seasons. And better teams WILL figure it out. What he pulled against the Jets may not fly against the Steelers or Ravens... or even against the Patriots, or another team that can simply outscore Denver. If the Broncos are down 35-7 by the 4th, Tebow's heroics won't help. It's only good for one score, apparently. Bottom line: as the sole starting quarterback on a not-great team, Tebow's magic will run out. But if given time to learn how to throw properly, and used as a change-of-pace QB in the meantime until he learns how to throw, there's nothing wrong with him. And, on a better team, they might be able to use him as a starter and overcome his passing shortcomings. I'd love to have him back up Brady, personally. I'm not really sure why there's such a backlash against Tebow's religion. I mean, there are plenty of athletes who are religious. If, in a postgame, I hear one more player "thank Jesus for blessing me with the physical skills" blah blah blah, I'll shoot someone. Why does Tebow get such flak? Is it, weirdly enough, because he's white? I think so, although I can't figure out why. He seems like a nice enough guy, and--as was pointed out elsewhere--if he was Jewish we wouldn't be making Hanukkah jokes, would we? Why is the fact that he's such a religious Christian rub people the wrong way? People picking on him all the time, plus the fact that people pick on his inability to throw the ball, make me actually root for him more and more with each win, despite my Bronco hatred. I'd be fine if the Broncos lose because Tebow plays great and one of his teammates makes a bonehead turnover. And I'm atheist/agnostic. :shrug: |
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He also said that Tebow should have been the #1 pick in the draft. |
this thread speaks volumes on how good Matt Cassel really is.
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Winning games against good teams is all about being able to throw the ball. The Broncos can't do that, and the Chiefs can't either (at least with Cassel).
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THe Donks will have a better record than we will. FML
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A lot of other teams will also. |
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In the meantime, I’m just amazed that NFL teams are actually being beaten by Jake Plummer’s less talented clone. |
I am of the firm belief that knowmo is a sock. Nobody is that stupid.
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I'm gonna go step in front of a bus now. |
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Jamarcus Russel > Tebow as a QB
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knowmo has had a huge man crush on teabag since the donkeys spent a first rounder on him. i remember seeing him say that teblow would be a bigger star then michal jordan.
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The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do and so the expert isn't prepared for him; he does the thing he ought not to do; and often it catches the expert out and ends him on the spot
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Tebow out of the pocket > Tebow in the pocket
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Decker has the makings of being a Jordy Nelson type... but, that's not a #1 receiver which is what he is playing as right now in that offense. Thomas needs to step up. Royal is a good #3 type. They have NOTHING worth suiting up at TE and that is where the big issue is in my opinion, that and a solid pass catching RB. The short passing game is what will help them if Tebow is to remain the QB. Go find weapons that can be effective 10-15 yards out and build around the successful aspects of what their doing today. Right now, Tebow stands back there and it's really either Decker or Royal... 15+ yards and that is what is not sustainable with this QB. They need more options, people that can play within this scheme. If they don't do that, then they need to go another direction with QB. If they want to ride this train, keep the fans excited and build around Tebow - making him a better passing QB, do these things. |
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Mix the following ... Elway with a banged up throwing arm in a sling, Chuck Norris, Mr. Rogers and William Wallace ... you get Tim Tebow.
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Tebow has to learn to throw but i like what Denvers doing.... winning.:thumb: |
I agree with you, except for the Elway, William Wallace and Chuck Norris parts.
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A QB running around like a chicken with his head cut off and beating teams with a combined record of 11-17 late in the game by no means indicates that he has "It". Again, this is Vince Young all over again.
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This is good, the lower the draft position, the more they'd have to give up for Luck |
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We can dream |
Elways gets pissed the more Tebow wins
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I can't believe that guys like Mr. Mile High Mania and Mr. listopencil and guys like that are actually ... discussing ... Tebow like this thing isn't the biggest aberration to hit the game since Lester Hayes covered his entire body with Stickum.
Traditional NFL coaches throughout the league are going to devise defenses that are designed to remove Tebow's head from his torso. After that (and some paper mache and electrical cord), he will make a halfway decent lamp, but that's about it. FAX |
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Cassel has a (slightly) better arm than Tebow. But Tebow is more of a "winner". Sadly, I think Tebow may be > Cassel. Cassel's mechanics are usually putrid. He throws the ball high, hard, out of bounds. Cassel shows more flashes of "I can be a real quarterback" than Tebow does. But Tebow puts the W on the board. |
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In reality, they both suck and shouldn't be a starter for anyone. |
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And, don't forget, while they've beaten the Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, Dolphins, and Bengals (all half-decent, even the Fins despite the record), they only lost to the Raiders and Titans by 3 and the Chargers by 5. A lucky bounce here or there, and Tebow and the Broncos could be 8-2. Just goes to show you how fine the line is in the NFL between "suck" and "great"... :D |
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Matt Cassel had a 10-5 record last year. Does that mean he has "it"? |
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Were the Donks able to field a competent QB they'd run away with the division, hands down. They are the best all around team at this point.. You can honestly watch those 10 or so passes a game that flail 5 yards short of the receiver and say "this guys a winner!!!"?? The difference between Cassell and Tebow as it stands today is that everyone sees Cassell for what he is. Give it 2 years, and Tebow will be spoken about the same way in Denver. |
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