Jones, Griffin, Foles or Tannehill?
 

Who should the next signal caller for the Chiefs be?

Matt Barkley

Do whatever you have to do to get Luck, Barkley or RGIII.

Not Tannahill

No to Jones

If the Draft were tomorrow...I think we'd pick somewhere in the neighborhood of sixteen. Dolphins and Eagles could very well play their way out of a Top 10 pick. Are we gonna finish low enough to draft one of those three?

We'd have to basically lose out.

This.

We're not picking anywhere near 16.

And FWIW, as of now, RGIII is considered a R2 pick - though rising.

I don't give a **** what it takes to move as far as we need to. Without a franchise QB, this roster is going to waste.

You act like this is going to be difficult.

Plus, there's a handful of teams currently in front of us that'll finish with more wins IMO.

This.

The Dolphins and Eagles are looking better than the Chiefs by far. Who are the Chiefs going to beat at this point?

Right now, apart form the guys that would be obvious reaches, I would be happy with anyone except Jones.

If we draft Landry Jones, Ill be happy that they at least tried with one of the top "perceived" quarterbacks...but inside I will be disappointed.

Id rather trade away the whole entire draft to get Luck or Barkley (even if we already have a top 5 pick) than sit pat and draft Landry Jones.

I said if the draft were tomorrow.

Griffin means another year of Cassel for sure. The guy has the tools to be good but he'll be a bit of a project.

If we land him though...I doubt many people would mind that extra year.

Griffin, Jones....see what we have in stanzi. Foles is cassel2 and tannehill just doesn't impress me.

I can absolutely see this team losing out.

Here's a list of teams with 3 wins or less:

Indy, Carolina, Minnesota, STL, Arizona, Jacksonville, Miami and Washington.

Indy will absolutely pick ahead of us.

Of the remaining teams, Carolina, Minnesota, STL, Arizona and Jacksonville all have high picks at QB or just traded for a guy.

Miami is going to win a few more games.

That leaves Washington and the 4-6 teams - Cleveland, Philly, San Diego, Seattle and Tampa.

Every one of those teams will win a few more games - except for Cleveland.

There's going to be an opportunity to trade up.

Maybe on Friday he was.
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Id also like to add that we might as well stop listing RG3 in these because he has said to some people that he wants to come back to get his masters next year.

More reason to go all in for Barkley or Luck.

I dont care if we end up with the #2 pick, Id still trade the whole draft for Luck.

Same.

I'd rather **** a rusty snow blower than watch Foles play for the Chiefs.

(This goes for Jones, too)

No to Jones or Tannehill. Yes to Griffin, Luck or Barkley.

It would be classic Chiefs to go 30 years without drafting a QB in the first and then use that pick on Landry Jones.

I sharpened all the knives at the wrong time.

I haz a sad, because it's probably exactly what will happen should he declare.

I'd wait for little brother Rodgers. Sorry.

This. If he's still there you have to take him.

I hate to say it, but the way these guys LOVE Cassel, they are probably blowing loads left and right scouting Jones.

He is basically a more advanced, even less mobile version of Cassel.

He would also allow them to keep Cassel at the helm for another year or two.

IMO he is the Blackledge of this class of quarterbacks.

This completely unnecessary rhetorical arrangement is here for the purpose of showing total agreement with the above syntactical grouping.

I wouldn't trade up for RG3...but I would take him even if we are drafting in the top 5 (this is considering that Barkley and Luck are off the board when we pick).

Latest Walters has RGIII going #2 overall.

It'd be nice not having to trade up for Barkley. Draftubators get there QB round 1 True Fans get a Left Tackle round 2 we'd all be happy.

If you look around, there are a few places saying RG3 wants to get his masters next year.

I dont think he will be in this draft, but if he is he should be neck and neck with Barkley after his game this past weekend.

He really stepped up when his team needed him to and against really good competition.

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Even if he does declare, I wouldnt trade up to select him...Id trade up for Barkley, but I dont think Id trade whole draft for a guy that would be a 1 year (minimum) project in our system.

Who knows though, the kid is smart as all beat hell. Maybe he could pick it up faster than I think.

At this point, I really dont care...I just want that warm cozy feeling (that I have NEVER had) that our team just might have a real QB somewhere in the mix.

I'm going to go at this from a realistic stance as to who I think will be the Chiefs next QB...

In no particular order:

Stanzi
Jones
RG3
Tannehill
Cousins
Foles - Don't want. I was high on the kid at the start of the year, but he's been garbage lately and has thrown 517 passes to match what QB's have done with 350-400 passes
Lindley - Don't want, but he fits the mold of a Pioli QB
Moore

Everyone else on the list I wouldn't have a problem with, given that they are drafted in their respected rounds.

The successes of Bradford and Newton have really caused me to wonder about the time frame in developing a QB. Anymore, it seems like talent (coupled with league rules that highly favor the passing attack) is trumping development time.

A project? WTF are you talking about? That kid will be ready to play day 1 in the NFL.

:spock:

Be the #2 qb picked or finish a masters that you can finish later? RGIII is going pro.

That's pretty much my point. Our best bet to win a game from here on out is probably at Denver, which I don't see us winning.

And yeah, plenty of teams currently in front of us who look good.

I'm fairly sure we'll have a really really high pick. And we better ****ing take a QB.

Great first year, down second, but the kid has clearly flashed a lot of talent. Not his problem that he's surrounded by a dog shit team. Put him on the Chiefs with our skill players, when they're healthy of course, and he would be insane.

I would expect ANY QB to have success with the offensive weapons the Chiefs have, which is why I want Cassel gone yesterday.

The Rams switched to a pass offense and Bradford has been complete garbage ever since. What happened to the QB fixes a lot of problems? Bradford was overrated, and apparently still is.

absolutely this.

Id love to have Bradford.

What if they get the top pick and want to move Bradford?

Id surely be one of the first ones on the line asking the cost....but you would surely have to figure in the amount of his contract and that would likely bring the cost down a little.

Not true.

You are ****ing more reeruned than I ever thought possible.

Bullshit.

The guy got a HAS and that has ****ed with his mechanics and delivery.

When healthy, he is one of, if not the most, accurate quarterbacks in the game.

Id love to have him.

:spock: He threw for barely over 60% last year.

Maybe if the team that drafted him was desperate enough to develop a playbook built strictly to his strengths like Carolina did with Cam...but as far as a real NFL offense, he is absolutely a project.

So your evidence for his lack of accuracy is a completion percentage of over 60% in his n00b year after coming from a spread offense in college?

Because I said Griffin is a project? ROFL He certainly is.

The sky is falling we agree on something.

**** the stats

watch the games and take into account the factors at play or STFU

RGIII went from being a run first qb last year to a pass first qb this year. The kid is ready to play day 1. He's obviously very intelligent by already wrapping up a bachelors and starting on a Masters. The kid has the physical talents and the mental capability to start from day 1.

RG3 breaks the pocket and fires a bomb to Baldwin.....



let's make that happen

I forgot going from a spread to a pro style offense ****s with your ability to throw a football. My bad.

What factors am I suppose to take into account, exactly?

YOU'RE FINALLY RIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING!!!!!

:clap:

Timing and footwork would not have been obstacles for Bradford.

No. Not throwing 20 screens a game would.

His mechanics and pocket poise will need work.

Did you watch him play in college?

Do you watch him play in the NFL?

Are you talking about Bradford? I thought the draftubators hated guys who couldn't throw with accuracy more than 10 yards?

Bradford was over 60% as a rookie. Better than Manning. Yeah, I'd take him and forget about QB for 15 years. Better pump up that line though!

Bradford played in the most simplistic offense imaginable. He had one of the worst YPA in the league despite having a completion % over 60.

I think the most optimistic homers here could realistically imagine the Chiefs getting to 7 wins. More likely the number is 5. 18 teams already have 5. Any ties are going to hurt as we probably beat any team in strength of schedule. I see these teams finishing worse than the Chiefs:

Indianapolis (obviously)
St. Louis
Carolina
Minnesota
Washington (games against Minnesota and Seattle are perhaps winnable)
Jacksonville

The teams currently behind the Chiefs who should pass them:
Miami
Arizona

Chiefs are currently tied with but should be surpassed by:
Cleveland (least positive)
San Diego
Tampa Bay
Philadelphia
Seattle

The Chiefs should end up somewhere 6-10. Four of those teams have taken a QB in the first in the last two drafts. That should be enough to get RGIII after Indy takes Luck and Washington takes Barkley. Rumor out of Washington is they could be looking for Manning.