KC/NE: Chiefs weren't bad (and, no, I'm not reeruned)
 

I know it looked bad on TV. And on the scoreboard. But from inside the stadium it looked different. The Chiefs D did a good job pressuring the Pats in the first half. They had two blown plays against Gronk and he made them pay. On offense, Palko looked much better than Cassel; considering the circumstances (thrown into starting @ NE on MNF) he looked decent. He had two tipped-ball INTs that could've been caught, and one Casselish INT in the EZ. I said the Chiefs had to play perfect, which they didn't, but the story of this game was basically two passes to Gronk, a PR by Edelman, and two tipped INTs.

3 points on the worst D in football is bad...

**** you and your coach for going for it on 4th down and clubbing our seals.

Enjoy karma biting you in the ass with another first-round playoff exit.

Get ****ed.

Some of the players tried their best considering the limitations (noodle arm QB, literal reerun offensive coordinator), but it was as bad as it looked.

Agreed.

The first one to breaston wouldve been an amazing catch.

The second one was a horrible horrible throw.

Both were on palko.

Those tipped balls were the result of inaccurate passes. Palko looked like absolute shit.

And Pioli is a ****ing lost sapling who is dying because of his distance from the mother-hooded tree.

Cassel once hit the crossbar after throwing 35 yard hail mary.

I think Palko would need to be inside the red zone to get it into the endzone in the air.

Looking back at the 4th down call. Even Brady kind of felt like a dick. Check his BL.

Regardless, who cares if they went for it on 4th. We couldn't stop them and that's all that matters.

Oh, go cry in your maxi pad, bitch. What the **** was Haley doing calling two timeouts in a row, down 27-3 with 5 minutes to go? I never understand why it's okay for the losing team to keep trying but not the winning team.

NE did nothing wrong. Can't stop the opponent? Tough shit.

I want my team to be the team that opposing fans bitch about running up the score.

The Chiefs can be summed up with their decision to not go for it on 4th and 6inches on NE's 36 yard line in the first.

Gotta take the delay of game, in that situation, to give your punter some room to work!

Patriots give up yards but they are middle of the pack in scoring defense which is the only defensive stat that matters.

zzzzzzzzz.

Actually, Haley didn't help with his weird playcalling. On 4th and 1 you don't go for it, and take a delay call to push you out of FG range, but then you turn around and onside kick to give them the ball at midfield? He also didn't call enough downfield passes, as Palko hit a few and the Pats were sending towelboys in as DBs. I like Haley but from the get-go his coaching smacked of "I don't think we can win and aren't as good". JMO.

Either you stop them or you don't. You sound like a whiney douche. Oh wait, you are a douche.

I liked the Patriots' attitude, but questioned keeping Brady in there. Why not keep scoring and prevent bizarre things like 4 TD fourth quarter comebacks from happening? Not that the Chiefs would be the ones to do it, but it's good to have your team keeping a merciless attitude toward the opponent. If the Chiefs had that, maybe they'd stop losing to teams with 0-X records coming into Arrowhead, and teams that complete 2 stinking passes the entire game.

Its just what happens...

Anyone that's actually watched this team knew they were going to do exactly what they did. You're just stating the obvious here.

We don't know why Todd and Muir have the football IQ of a houseplant, but they do.

Did you see Gruden blowing random people under the bleachers

I was in the EZ and not near the MNF crew... Although Suzie Kolber did go by, and is even cuter in person.

Throwing on that third down was trying to run up the score . After the penalty, running on two consecutive plays, 3rd and 4th down was not.

Yeah, they are approaching the top third in the league in pts against. Sometimes when you are up, you let the other team move the ball and eat clock for you.


Numbahs is right. This game was a lot closer than the score. And the Chiefs never quit.

Ya, it felt a lot more like 27-3 instead of 34-3.

We should be beating the teams like the Chiefs by more than 31 points, Belichick won't be happy, we were expecting a minimum of FITTY POINTS.

It's STFU time.

Like Numbahs said, that game was a half dozen plays from a pick em game.

Your team hit like hammers too. I am fearing looking at the injury report.

Go back to Patriots Planet and take that other Patriots glutton with you.

JD. What is with the Patriots OL taking cheap shots after the play? Saw it at least twice. Once Marcus Cannon hauls off and flings all 190lbs. of Arenas, who had his back to Cannon, across the field after the play for no reason. The two didn't engage at all on the play.

Then later, on the Pats 4th down TD pass that was nullified, Mankins hauls off and rails Amon Gordon who had his back to Mankins for no apparent reason...

What gives?

You could say the same about any NFL game.

Actually, I take that back. A close NFL game usually has about 2 or 3 plays that really help decide the outcome...

How can anybody say a team wasn't bad when they can't close anything? When they can't score more than 3 points? When they score 16 points in 12 quarters? They're awful and they really only have themselves to blame.

Hey. I dont post there any more, and that chowdah troll can pound sand.

Cannon was probably just overexcited; he's been on PUP getting cancer treatment and tonight was his first NFL action. Mankins is just a dirty bastard; on Patriots Planet we call him Nutpunch, as he did that to an opponent early in his career.

Honestly, the Pats OL was probably just mad, after getting their shit pushed in for the whole first half. We were booing before the first TD when Brady got sacked near their own EZ; in the stadium, it looked like they were gonna get Brady killed.

With all due respect, go **** yourself. This ****ing team is a goddamned atrocity.

Really appreciate the well-intentioned thread. Honestly. But no amount of encouragement and bull-shit can make anybody feel good about the Chiefs.

No sh*t. Only a Moron or a Braggart would start a thread after he Chiefs lose by 31 saying "aside from two huge pass plays, a PR, 3 INTs and a botched onside kick, they played pretty good."

I guess that's why he's both.

The Patriots model is a complete fraud and no amount of Pioli fluffing is going to change that. You have the only important factors, enjoy it and just call a spade a spade.

I wouldn't consider back handed compliements "well intentioned".

JD is a quality poster here. He doesn't go out of his way to be a dick. I think this thread is sincere. But Chiefs fans are so badly battered it will fall on deaf ears.

Yep. The Patriot way starts and ends with Tom Brady.

Does she have a name? I must see her naked
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Well... Cassel's still gone and Palko > Cassel, so there's that. :shrug:

Completely disagree. It's about demanding secrecy, holding hands, and trading picks in order to draft TEs.

The Patriot way is Tom "Freakin" Brady. Without him Bill Bellichek is the Browns 93-98.

Bill Belichick disapproves of this theory.

We got WR/KR playing DB and LB we're so banged up, the Patriot way baby, winning football.

The secret is is Left Tackles. Light, Cannon, and Solder are all pretty good. We'd be a playoff team with any of those 3.

Well, when you are throwing up by more than three scores, its blatent you are taking advantage of a team geared to stop the run in that situation. I wonder why they did that. That is not typical of the Patriots in that situation.

The run plays after the penalty were just pound it at the D, everyone knows what the play is, just stop it. The 4th down run took an easy 3 points off the board. They ran it right at a D geared to stop the run instead.

Anybody else get reminded of Thigpen tonight?

LMAO. Solder. The FB/TE/RT. What a disaster.

Nope. Those Herm coached teams were undermanned but they atleast kept it close.

Nope. It looked like '09 Pennington with a torn rotator cuff.

WTF was that shit?

The only part of Palko's game that is better than Cassel's is his ability to find other receivers. Everything else is either as bad or horrifically worse.

A typical Tree draft pick.

That's okay, as I wouldn't consider your opinion of me important, since I have 10x the posts and two years' longevity on you.

Hey, I call 'em as I see 'em. From inside the stadium, the Chiefs looked better than that score, especially in the first half. They certainly have issues, but so do most teams (especially in the AFCW). I doubt Palko is the QBOTF but he seems to bring more to the table than Cassel. If I thought the Chiefs looked like total ass wire-to-wire, I wouldn't have made the thread. I do like the Chiefs, after all.

Oh, and, clamchowda, you can STFU and go away now, you embarrassment of a Patriots fan. Even the relative intelligence of myself, Amnorix, and shirtsleeve is hard-pressed to counter your idiocy.

Amnorix is a jerkoff he needs to leave.

He's going to go away. No worries about that. There is absolutely no reason to keep your foot on the collective throat of Chiefs fans while the noose is already around our neck. Trolling has a time and place. It is no longer the time.

JFC

Bill Maas
Way to ho roomie! Great job by you Palko. You just secured an NFL ROSTER for as long as you want. You were calm , cool , confident, as I always knew you would be. I have witnessed your dedication. You have earned this. The future is yours.
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LMAO You fail as well. It's "Belichick".

lol sad thing is Palko has better pocket presence then cassel, the ball looks better when he throws it short yardage, but the deep ball looks just as shitty as cassel. lol

Either way, its more of the same. Palko shouldnt be starting, it has to be the rookie, its like seriously why not. lol I dont see how starting Palko is better then starting Stanzi. If palko was in his first or 2nd year, then id be like ok, but he's not.

Troll.

:shake:

:doh!:

ROFL

Not really. When a team runs straight at a D who is stacked against the run, its up to the D to out execute th O, and prevent the score. its an open book exam with no time limit. Passing in that situation is to test from a different book.

:LOL: WTF

So its unfair to pass in goal line situations? WTF is is your point? Outside of you're pissed that the Chiefs lost, I truly can't figure out what it is? Were you picked on as a child? Do you think that in war our #1 obligation is to be sensitive to our enemy's needs and wants? Help me out here. :huh:

Bill Maas is a ****ing reerun who took too many hits to the head.

ROFL

Bushy! I'm a Pats fan...and someone you know...

:LOL:

No Im not pissed. I am pointing out that to run the ball is to give the D every opportunity to stop it.

:thumb: Exactly but then you try a stoopid fake kick off-LOL WTF-Haley is the worst coach I have ever seen-if he was a little league coach-parents would be pulling their kids off the team.

It was the lack of a stripper pole that threw you off, I know...

I guess here we differ.

The last INT was not a tipped ball-it was a lame duck pass thrown in triple coverage.

Why is ****o even on our team-he is horrible. Hell bring Ryan Leaf out of retirement-he would throw better.

I can see the homer lights a bit, yeah we came in strong, and all game had some decent defensive stands, holding the mighty bratriots to 3 and outs. And yes palko looked better than cassel more than he looked as bad as cassel. we went in at halftime respectfully and came out a high school drama team that couldn't play football.

At the end of the day, we were beaten. And it sucks to see it. Even though I didn't really expect us to beat NE and I let the first half get my hopes up, and the thought of all our players playing would field a better team, I'm just tired of seeing us lose....

Tipped passes? That were well behind the WR's. Palko had more help that Cassel gets. The Chiefs were decisive in play calling, got in and out of the huddle quickly and got up to the line and snapped the ball.

Palko was snapping the ball at about the same time that Cassel was finally getting the playcall.

Cassel isn't 'elite'...but he is at least average. Cassel hasn't been given the kind of coaching support and freedom that Palko was last night. Palko was allowed to just turn it loose with no expectations.

Cassel is a much better QB.

As far as the defense goes..... they hung in there for a while. But, as the emotion drained out and the offense continued to sputter, their hearts just weren't in it.

BS. They got in and out of the huddle quickly BECAUSE OF PALKO. He was hustling into and out of the huddle on every play, at least until they got the punt return to go up 27-3.

Yep, because Palko understood the needed tempo. Cassel doesn't.

BS. BS. BS. Cassel has been allowed to be the starter for nearly 3 years after repeatedly proving he doesn't deserve it. That's not just "support" that's BABYING. They done everything they can to help Cassel, he's just a lost cause.

It's just hilarious how Pioli doesn't want to put his own stamp on anything. It's all recycled second hand BB nonsense. Dimitroff actually formulated his own ideas and isn't some dummy sitting on BB's lap, which is why the Falcons compete every year.

Pick a new team.... ROFLLMAOROFLLMAO

Cassel can't force the coaches to get the playcall into him any quicker. How many times have we seen Cassel yelling to the sidelines about getting the freaking playcall?

Cassel has looked like a legitamite NFL QB in two of the four years he has started. In New England he had McDaniels....looked good. First year starting, went 10-5.

Then, he had Gailey, then Haley his first year in KC.... sucked.

Then, he got Weis. Offensive player of the month, pro bowl selection.

Then, he gets Muir, which is just Haley as OC again..... sucks.

Do you see a pattern? Look, I am not saying the guy is great, but he is much better than Palko and a decent starting QB when you give him a decent coordinator.

I was at the Minnesota game. I watched him come off the field. I watched Haley TRY to pat him on the back and give him some coaching after Cassel went full reerun and grounded a screen pass. I watched Cassel throw a hissy fit for NO REASON.

The reason Cassel is yelling at the sidelines is because he's a baby.

We saw the sideline cams last night. We saw the discussions in the headsets. We saw Haley's mouth moving. We saw Muir talking. We saw Zorn in Haley's ear several times. The only moving part that was significantly different - the QB.

I see a pattern - a pattern of excuses. Cassel is a serviceable QB when you protect him with playcalling, nothing more.

This "worst D in football" thing is overstated. The NFL, for some silly reason, ranks offense/defense by YARDS, not points.

Pats are middle of the pack in points allowed, the only stat that matters. The Chiefs piled up lots of yards, just like everyone does. But when you say "3 points on the worst D in football", you're mixing stats -- points versus yards.

Palko doesn't look much like an NFL QB, I will say that.