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Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 04:41 PM

***OFFICIAL head coaching search thread***
 
So who are we going to bring in to replace Haley?

Who do you like? Do you want experienced candidates? Someone fresh and young?

Potential candidates:

Jeff Fisher
Kirk Ferentz
Josh McDaniels
Marty Schottenheimer
Mike Zimmer
Andy Reid
Jay Gruden
Rick Dennison
Todd Bowles
Rob Ryan
Dom Capers
Brian Billick
Jon Gruden
Pepper Johnson
Kevin Gilbride

NEWS

Nick Wright: Pioli believes McDaniels isn't a viable option, and Fisher is but won't offer Jeff big bucks is the bad news

htismaqe 11-28-2011 04:42 PM

ROFL

This is gonna be awesome!

LiveSteam 11-28-2011 04:43 PM

From this short list Marty Schottenheimer
I wanted him to be the next Huskers coach. But they hired Botard instead
I dont need to add to the list. I haven't given up on Haily yet.

tredadda 11-28-2011 04:44 PM

I don't think it will be a big name hire whomever is brought in. Haley was an unknown till Arizona made the SB. I don't think the names you have posted will get it although I can't think of any names off the top of my head.

The Franchise 11-28-2011 04:44 PM

Mike Zimmer

Mr. Flopnuts 11-28-2011 04:44 PM

Rush Limbaugh.

Fritz88 11-28-2011 04:45 PM

Did we fire Haley?

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 04:45 PM

I'm hoping Andy Reid is fired in Philly and we swoop in and scoop him up.

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 04:45 PM

Whoever is available from "the tree". /Scott Pioli

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8151703)
Did we fire Haley?

This thread assumes we will.

notorious 11-28-2011 04:45 PM

God, I could take a Taco Tico dump on a piece of paper and it would look better than that list of coaches.

arrowheadnation 11-28-2011 04:46 PM

As much as I wish it would happen. Pioli is not going to fire Haley after a year with all of the injuries we've had. He'll get one more year at least.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 8151693)
From this short list Marty Schottenheimer

He's a young 68.

Fritz88 11-28-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8151699)
Mike Zimmer

I like him but he's not been consistent like Rex or Schwartz as DCs. I could be wrong.

Shogun 11-28-2011 04:46 PM

we wont fire haley

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 8151710)
As much as I wish it would happen. Pioli is not going to fire Haley after a year with all of the injuries we've had. He'll get one more year at least.

Well, we don't really care about that in this thread, so take that talk elsewhere.

Fritz88 11-28-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8151706)
Whoever is available from "the tree". /Scott Pioli

Your posts are depressing.

notorious 11-28-2011 04:47 PM

Marty would be the best off of that list.


He is overdue for a playoff run, so there is that.

LiveSteam 11-28-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8151711)
He's a young 68.

Ya I forgot about that part. Still love Martyball

RealSNR 11-28-2011 04:47 PM

Quick, somebody check the housing listings in Leawood

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8151718)
Your posts are depressing.

The truth is depressing, young Fritz.

SPATCH 11-28-2011 04:50 PM

GOD

Nightfyre 11-28-2011 04:53 PM

Nick Saban?

bevischief 11-28-2011 06:26 PM

I wondered who was going to start this thread...

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 06:31 PM

Is there anywhere you can find a list of the guys they interviewed last time?

Spott 11-28-2011 06:32 PM

Turner Gill

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8151930)
Is there anywhere you can find a list of the guys they interviewed last time?

LMAO

philfree 11-28-2011 06:33 PM

Hang on to Haley for another year and if this thing doesn't get turned around then we take a look at Jay Gruden.

Okie_Apparition 11-28-2011 06:33 PM

I think this is one of those stick with the devil you know deals
Pioli needs to sell season tickets & that just makes my tummy hurt

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8151933)
LMAO

:)

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8151934)
Hang on to Haley for another year and if this thing doesn't get turned around then we take a look at Jay Gruden.

Now THAT'S an interesting choice. I like that a lot. He's obviously done some nice things with Dalton in Cincy.

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 06:37 PM

He's been a OC for 1 year.

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8151946)
He's been a OC for 1 year.

LMAO

So had Haley.

WE FOUND OUR GUY!

FloridaMan88 11-28-2011 06:41 PM

The Chiefs need someone with previous NFL head coaching experience.

Fisher or Reid.

philfree 11-28-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8151946)
He's been a OC for 1 year.

Part of the reason I said to wait another year.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8151946)
He's been a OC for 1 year.

But he also coordinated the Florida Tuskers prolific attack. :evil:

Plus, as a 6x arena champion, the jokes would be endless.

philfree 11-28-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8151958)
But he also coordinated the Florida Tuskers prolific attack. :evil:

Plus, as a 6x arena champion, the jokes would be endless.

Jay Gruden (born March 4, 1967) is an American football coach and former quarterback. He is currently the offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals and was formerly the head coach of the Florida Tuskers of the United Football League. Gruden is also the brother of former Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach and current Monday Night Football analyst Jon Gruden.[1]





Contents
[hide] 1 Early years
2 College career
3 Professional career 3.1 Awards

4 Coaching career
5 Personal
6 External links
7 References


[edit] Early years

Gruden attended George D. Chamberlain High School in Tampa, Florida, where he played quarterback for the Chiefs under head coach Billy Turner.

[edit] College career

Gruden was a four-year letterman at Louisville (1985–1988). He finished his collegiate career with 7,024 passing yards, completing 572 of 1049 passes for 44 touchdowns. All four stats still rank in the top five in Cardinals' history. As a senior, Gruden led the team to an 8–3 mark, their first winning season in 10 years.

[edit] Professional career

Gruden won four ArenaBowl titles as the starting quarterback of the Tampa Bay Storm. He was the Arena League MVP in the 1992 season.

[edit] Awards
1992: League MVP & First Team All-Arena-QB
1993: All-Star Game MVP
1995: First Team All-Arena-QB (TB)
1996: AFL's 10th Anniversary Team
1999: AFL Hall of Fame & All-ArenaBowl Team-QB
2001: Second Team 15th Team Anniversary-QB
2006: No. 4 on the AFL's list of its top 20 greatest players[2]

[edit] Coaching career

Gruden began his coaching career as the offensive coordinator for the Nashville Kats in 1997. Then, in 1998, he became head coach of the Orlando Predators, the main rival of the Tampa Bay Storm. He won ArenaBowl titles in 1998 and 2000 as head coach. He un-retired and resumed playing in 2002, this time for the Predators, but retired again and returned to head coaching when his replacement, Fran Papasedero, died after the 2003 season. Gruden has an overall AFL career record of 93–61, including a record of 11–7 in the playoffs.

From 2002 to 2008 he also served as an offensive assistant for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the National Football League under his brother, head coach Jon Gruden. He left after Jon was fired following the 2008 season.

In 2009, while the Predators were on hiatus prior to the folding of the AFL, he was selected to be head coach Jim Haslett's offensive coordinator for the Florida Tuskers of the United Football League. As part of his contract, he was not permitted to remain head coach of the Predators. Instead, former Preds quarterback Pat O'Hara, who led the team to the two ArenaBowls it won when Gruden was head coach, was hired in his place.

In 2010, he was named head coach of the Tuskers following Haslett's departure to join Mike Shanahan's staff with the Washington Redskins.

Gruden was hired as the offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals on February 3, 2011.[3]

[edit] Personal

Gruden's father Jim, a long-time college and NFL assistant coach, is a retired regional scout for the San Francisco 49ers. His brother Jon was the head coach of the Oakland Raiders, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Mr. Arrowhead 11-28-2011 06:47 PM

scott pioli

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8151953)
LMAO

So had Haley.

WE FOUND OUR GUY!

To be fair Haley was the OC for 2 years called plays for a year and a half :LOL:

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 06:54 PM

Critique so far


Jeff Fisher: Laid a lot of turds
Kirk Ferentz: Not a good coach
Josh McDaniels: Sucks
Marty Schottenheimer: Too old
Mike Zimmer: Could be good but plays a 4-3

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 06:54 PM

Critique so far


Jeff Fisher: Laid a lot of turds
Kirk Ferentz: Not a good coach
Josh McDaniels: Sucks
Marty Schottenheimer: Too old
Mike Zimmer: Could be good but plays a 4-3

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8151970)
To be fair Haley was the OC for 2 years called plays for a year and a half :LOL:

Yeah, Haley was the OC like Muir was the OC for one of those years.

Ultimately, he had the same amount of experience actually calling plays as Gruden would after this season.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 06:56 PM

I think you're being unfair to Jeff Fisher.

The dude went to a Super Bowl.

Mojo Jojo 11-28-2011 06:57 PM

Pioli will not hire a coach who will want some control. He is a power freak...going to get another puppet. No real coach will want to work with him.

The Franchise 11-28-2011 06:58 PM

Interesting note about Mike Zimmer.

Quote:

He is the son of former NFL player Bill Zimmer and the father of Adam Zimmer, the Defensive Assistant/Linebackers for the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs.

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8151989)
I think you're being unfair to Jeff Fisher.

The dude went to a Super Bowl.

So did Jim Fossil and Bill Callahan.

The Franchise 11-28-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8151984)
Critique so far

Mike Zimmer: Could be good but plays a 4-3

See below.

Quote:

He joined the Dallas Cowboys in 1994 as an assistant coach of the nickel defense under Barry Switzer. He was promoted to defensive backs coach (1995–99) before being promoted to defensive coordinator in 2000. The 2003 Dallas Cowboys gave up the fewest yards in the NFL while running an aggressive speedy 4-3 defense. Despite the Cowboys' problems over the years, Zimmer has survived coaching changes (Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Bill Parcells) and rumored to have been a candidate for the head coaching job at the University of Nebraska (2003). For the 2005 season, he implemented the 3-4 defense favored by head coach Parcells, although Zimmer had no prior experience with it.

OnTheWarpath15 11-28-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8151989)
I think you're being unfair to Jeff Fisher.

The dude went to a Super Bowl.

So did Jim Fassel. And Mike Martz. Your point?

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8151997)
So did Jim Fossil and Bill Callahan.

Did those guys coach for 15 years with one team?

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8152005)
Did those guys coach for 15 years with one team?

I'm trying to figure out why this matters? He didn't win shit in 15 years and had some Marty like seasons. Cool.

seaofred 11-28-2011 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8152005)
Did those guys coach for 15 years with one team?

And in 15 years he made 1 Super Bowl.... If you are a coach that long, odds are you'll make 1.

I bet if you gave Haley 15 years, he would get to atleast 1.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8152008)
I'm trying to figure out why this matters?

It means he's not a turd like Fassel or Callahan.

Here's another thing to like about Fisher: He drafted two QBs in the first round.

loce1959 11-28-2011 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8151963)
Jay Gruden (born March 4, 1967) is an American football coach and former quarterback. He is currently the offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals and was formerly the head coach of the Florida Tuskers of the United Football League. Gruden is also the brother of former Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach and current Monday Night Football analyst Jon Gruden.[1]





Contents
[hide] 1 Early years
2 College career
3 Professional career 3.1 Awards

4 Coaching career
5 Personal
6 External links
7 References


[edit] Early years

Gruden attended George D. Chamberlain High School in Tampa, Florida, where he played quarterback for the Chiefs under head coach Billy Turner.

[edit] College career

Gruden was a four-year letterman at Louisville (1985–1988). He finished his collegiate career with 7,024 passing yards, completing 572 of 1049 passes for 44 touchdowns. All four stats still rank in the top five in Cardinals' history. As a senior, Gruden led the team to an 8–3 mark, their first winning season in 10 years.

[edit] Professional career

Gruden won four ArenaBowl titles as the starting quarterback of the Tampa Bay Storm. He was the Arena League MVP in the 1992 season.

[edit] Awards
1992: League MVP & First Team All-Arena-QB
1993: All-Star Game MVP
1995: First Team All-Arena-QB (TB)
1996: AFL's 10th Anniversary Team
1999: AFL Hall of Fame & All-ArenaBowl Team-QB
2001: Second Team 15th Team Anniversary-QB
2006: No. 4 on the AFL's list of its top 20 greatest players[2]

[edit] Coaching career

Gruden began his coaching career as the offensive coordinator for the Nashville Kats in 1997. Then, in 1998, he became head coach of the Orlando Predators, the main rival of the Tampa Bay Storm. He won ArenaBowl titles in 1998 and 2000 as head coach. He un-retired and resumed playing in 2002, this time for the Predators, but retired again and returned to head coaching when his replacement, Fran Papasedero, died after the 2003 season. Gruden has an overall AFL career record of 93–61, including a record of 11–7 in the playoffs.

From 2002 to 2008 he also served as an offensive assistant for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the National Football League under his brother, head coach Jon Gruden. He left after Jon was fired following the 2008 season.

In 2009, while the Predators were on hiatus prior to the folding of the AFL, he was selected to be head coach Jim Haslett's offensive coordinator for the Florida Tuskers of the United Football League. As part of his contract, he was not permitted to remain head coach of the Predators. Instead, former Preds quarterback Pat O'Hara, who led the team to the two ArenaBowls it won when Gruden was head coach, was hired in his place.

In 2010, he was named head coach of the Tuskers following Haslett's departure to join Mike Shanahan's staff with the Washington Redskins.

Gruden was hired as the offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals on February 3, 2011.[3]

[edit] Personal

Gruden's father Jim, a long-time college and NFL assistant coach, is a retired regional scout for the San Francisco 49ers. His brother Jon was the head coach of the Oakland Raiders, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Maybe we could get him as a backup QB. He has better credentials than Palko. He actually made it in the UFL.

seaofred 11-28-2011 07:04 PM

Here's a name: Bob Stoops

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 07:04 PM

I'd prefer Zimmer out of all those listed right now.

Dayze 11-28-2011 07:05 PM

Peyton Manning when he retires; he can be our HC and OC.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8152018)
I'd prefer Zimmer out of all those listed right now.

Why?

DeezNutz 11-28-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8151706)
Whoever is available from "the tree". /Scott Pioli

Go **** yourself, Scott, you embarrassing sonofabitch you.

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8152025)
Why?

He's a good defensive coordinator who's been in the league awhile and has worked well with young talent.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-28-2011 07:09 PM

Does this thread have any merit or is this just in anticipation?

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 07:10 PM

I would keep my eye on Todd Bowles since he's from the tree. Been a good position coach and has interviewed with teams in the past. He would be a "yes man" to Pioli.

WhiteWhale 11-28-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8151712)
I like him but he's not been consistent like Rex or Schwartz as DCs. I could be wrong.

When the Packers hired McCarthy, he was the OC of the 49ers.

The 49ers were ranked 30th in points and 32nd in yards.

Success as an OC/DC are not always indicative of being a good leader/manager... which is what a head coach is.

You really never know who will be a good head coach. If being a great coordinator made you a great head coach, then Dick Lebeau (the best DC in the NFL right now imo) wouldn't have been so bad at HC and McCarthy wouldn't be such a good one.

WhiteWhale 11-28-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8152014)
It means he's not a turd like Fassel or Callahan.

Here's another thing to like about Fisher: He drafted two QBs in the first round.

Yeah, but he only wanted to draft one of them.

Fisher wanted a QB, but he didn't want Vince Young.

DeezNutz 11-28-2011 07:16 PM

Fisher's teams are always tough (and dirty) as hell. He's Marty, but with more post-season success.

I'm going to be killed here, I'm sure, but he's not a deplorable option as far as retreads go.

Okie_Apparition 11-28-2011 07:16 PM

I think Dylan would like one of you fine gentleman to make her a MNF game thread

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8152040)
Yeah, but he only wanted to draft one of them.

Fisher wanted a QB, but he didn't want Vince Young.

Another plus!

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8152045)
Fisher's teams are always tough (and dirty) as hell. He's Marty, but with more post-season success.

I'm going to be killed here, I'm sure, but he's not a deplorable option as far as retreads go.

His interviews will suck he talks so quietly it's hard to understand him. Maybe it's the stache?

DeezNutz 11-28-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8152054)
His interviews will suck he talks so quietly it's hard to understand him. Maybe it's the stache?

He'd probably wear a Tebow jersey, so that's troublesome.

Quesadilla Joe 11-28-2011 07:19 PM

Rick Dennison would be a good choice.

Hopefully Pioli leaves Dennis Allen alone.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 8152058)
Rick Dennison would be a good choice.

**** yeah, west coast offense.

BigMeatballDave 11-28-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8151680)
So who are we going to bring in to replace Haley?

Who do you like? Do you want experienced candidates? Someone fresh and young?

Potential candidates:

Jeff Fisher
Kirk Ferentz
Josh McDaniels
Marty Schottenheimer
Mike Zimmer
Andy Reid
Jay Gruden

Please add to the list.

Jeez, what a fantastic pile of shit list that is.

BigMeatballDave 11-28-2011 07:29 PM

Mentioning Marty for HC should be a bannable offense.

notorious 11-28-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 8152017)
Here's a name: Bob Stoops

Here's a suggestion: Antifreeze

Titty Meat 11-28-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8152045)
Fisher's teams are always tough (and dirty) as hell. He's Marty, but with more post-season success.

I'm going to be killed here, I'm sure, but he's not a deplorable option as far as retreads go.

Sounds better than what we currently have.

MahiMike 11-28-2011 08:10 PM

Coughlin Fisher or Reid.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 08:31 PM

Since when is Tom Coughlin getting fired?

Predarat 11-28-2011 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8152053)
Another plus!

He wanted Matt Leinart.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2011 08:47 PM

He wanted Cutler IIRC

-King- 11-28-2011 09:53 PM

Jay Harbaugh

-King- 11-28-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8152166)
Sounds better than what we currently have.

Fisher is ****ing terrible. He's made the playoffs 6 times in his 20 year career. You're nuts if you'd rather have him than Haley.


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