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Hammock Parties 12-08-2011 11:35 PM

Winner: Charlie Weis
 
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Warpaint Illustrated Publisher
Posted Dec 9, 2011
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With the news that Charlie Weis has returned to the Midwest to become the new head football coach at the University of Kansas, it’s time to revisit the Weis-Haley earthquake that shook the Kansas City Chiefs a year ago at this time.
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It’s been well documented, but not always believed, that Haley and Weis feuded last year. The explanation for the breakup was that Weis left because he wanted to join his son at the University of Florida.

The truth is, Weis left the Chiefs because he could not work with Haley. Sure, he wanted to be closer to his family and begin a new life in Florida, but deep down he wanted to be a head coach again.

Had he stayed in Kansas City one more year, there is no doubt that Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli would have given Weis a chance to become the head coach in 2012. And yes, I do think – just like most of the local and national media - that the Chiefs will dump Haley at season’s end, or sooner.

For the University of Kansas, Weis’ hire means they’ve finally found a stabilizing force for their fledgling college football program. It also means the Chiefs let a talented offensive mind slip away. Had Weis been KC’s offensive coordinator this season, regardless of the quarterback on the field, the team would have two or three more wins.

While we’ll never know for certain what Weis would have done in the Chiefs’ coaching booth this season, we do know what Haley has done. He decided it was his way or no way, and struggled all season long to delivers plays to the quarterback.

I have no issue with that philosophy. Haley is the head coach and the buck stops with him. So it’s his coaching career that’s on the line.

He did a solid job getting his team ready for the Chicago Bears. This week he has a much more difficult task in repeating that performance against a feisty New York Jets team.

But the Chiefs game on Sunday will likely be overshadowed around these parts because of the Jayhawks’ decision to hire Weis. The constant “what if” scenarios will play out during his introductory press conference on Friday.

Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger just put Kansas football back on the map. With the hiring of Weis, the university has an opportunity to elevate their college football program to a place they’ve never been before.

I compare the hiring of Weis to the hire the university made when they lured Larry Brown away from the NBA’s New Jersey Nets in the 1980s. All he did was restore the tradition of Kansas basketball and win a National Championship. To this day, he maintains that coaching and living in Lawrence was the greatest honor of his life. Time will tell if that will ring true for Weis, but it could turn out that way.

I believe Weis could have made an equal impact for the Chiefs, so his hire is bittersweet. I wear my crimson and blue on Saturday, but my Chiefs red on Sunday.

Now I get to wear them both with equal pride. At least I will if the Chiefs make a coaching change and find the right man for the job like the Jayhawks did Thursday. </td></tr></tbody></table>

ChiefsD 12-08-2011 11:36 PM

job security is high. only place to go is up.

KcMizzou 12-08-2011 11:37 PM

Oh hell... LMAO

BigMeatballDave 12-08-2011 11:45 PM

LMAO this is why Clay thinks Haley is gone? Because this tool Athan says so?

Okie_Apparition 12-08-2011 11:46 PM

Athan is a beaker
as shocking as snow in January

Extra Point 12-08-2011 11:46 PM

Oh, man! Scooter sales are gonna soar!

(Mistitled, but the music didn't suck. Speaking of out-of-context!)
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-King- 12-08-2011 11:47 PM

Haley is an NFL coach.
Weis is a college coach.


Now call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure it's Haley that won.
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BigMeatballDave 12-08-2011 11:48 PM

THE DEAL IS DONE

Okie_Apparition 12-08-2011 11:48 PM

Blue Cheese wings rising

Shogun 12-08-2011 11:51 PM

my cousin says he spotted weis at gates bbq with pioli, its all but a matter of weeks now

Extra Point 12-08-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8183018)
Haley is an NFL coach.
Weis is a college coach.


Now call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure it's Haley that won.
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Haley is an NFL receivers coach.
Weis is an NFL offensive coordinator.

Neither one can head coach.

Zenger is a dipshit. I can't wait until I pour no more money into KU.

Hammock Parties 12-08-2011 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8183012)
LMAO this is why Clay thinks Haley is gone? Because this tool Athan says so?

Lots of people think Haley is gone.

And based on NFL history, and how teams operate, you could logically conclude he's gone.

Titty Meat 12-08-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8183012)
LMAO this is why Clay thinks Haley is gone? Because this tool Athan says so?

Silver, Florio, Lombardi.....

-King- 12-08-2011 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8183044)
Silver, Florio, Lombardi.....

Links?
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Titty Meat 12-09-2011 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8183052)
Links?
Posted via Mobile Device

Google is your friend.

BigRock 12-09-2011 12:13 AM

I had assumed this thread was about a pie-eating contest.

Extra Point 12-09-2011 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8183082)
I had assumed this thread was about a pie-eating contest.

Scooter Pie!

-King- 12-09-2011 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8183062)
Google is your friend.

Oh so you don't have any. Nice.
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Titty Meat 12-09-2011 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8183104)
Oh so you don't have any. Nice.
Posted via Mobile Device

Dumbass you asked the question do you not know how to use google?

https://www.google.com/search?sclien...H8qssQLY_PTpBQ

KCrockaholic 12-09-2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8183042)
Lots of people think Haley is gone.

And based on NFL history, and how teams operate, you could logically conclude he's gone.

I'm pretty sure Fax's vision has Haley on the sidelines in 2012.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1yk5vt_2vf...ItStareCat.jpg

L.A. Chieffan 12-09-2011 12:50 AM

Who gives a ****? Ancient history man

Phobia 12-09-2011 12:55 AM

This is terrible. Good grief.

Dayze 12-09-2011 08:33 AM

Pioli is going to have his plan blow up in his face if the chiefs somehow manage to win 2 more games.

Deberg_1990 12-09-2011 08:38 AM

Weis went from HC at Notre Dame to HC at KU....yea, im pretty sure hes NOT a winner.

WV 12-09-2011 08:39 AM

WTF...you mean Assclown Athan is letting regular people read this gem of and article!!! This quality piece of shit if surely worth baiting and stealing some more money from the blind masses in Smoke Signals!

King_Chief_Fan 12-09-2011 08:39 AM

Nothing to do with nothing....Typical whorepaint material

O.city 12-09-2011 08:40 AM

At this point I don't really care if Haley is here or not.

What I don't want is Pioli to go full Patriot way and bring in one of his cronies. I'm ****ing tired of this franchise trying to imitate. Just do your own thing.

philfree 12-09-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

It’s been well documented,
A bunch of BS has been made up because of Piloi's Vail of Secrecy and this tool calls it documentation. It's about the same as "I read it on Chiefs Planet so it must be true".

BoneKrusher 12-09-2011 08:46 AM

i just found the note Weis sent Todd Haley:

MISS ME YET?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-09-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8183407)
i just found the note Weis sent Todd Haley:

MISS ME YET?

Yea cause the gator O was so great this year lol what a joke.http://espn.go.com/college-football/...florida-gators

ChiTown 12-09-2011 08:50 AM

That is some of the worst journalism I have ever seen. WOW!

So, Nick Athan sucks ku cock as well? It all makes sense now..........

ChiTown 12-09-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8183407)
i just found the note Weis sent Todd Haley:

MISS ME YET?

That would be funny, if it made sense. Keep trying.

blaise 12-09-2011 09:02 AM

Charlie the Big Fat Coach
Had a very giant gut
And if you ever saw it
You would call it a front butt

All of the other coaches
Used to marvel at his weight
They never let big Charlie
get close to their dinner plates

Then when foggy Christmas season
KU came to say,
"Charlie you disgusting slob, how'd you like a coaching job?"
Lawrence restaurants did love it,
and they shouted out with glee,
"Charlie the Big Fat Coach, come into our eateries!"

BourbonMan 12-09-2011 09:05 AM

LMAO
Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8183442)
Charlie the Big Fat Coach
Had a very giant gut
And if you ever saw it
You would call it a front butt

All of the other coaches
Used to marvel at his weight
They never let big Charlie
get close to their dinner plates

Then when foggy Christmas season
KU came to say,
"Charlie you disgusting slob, how'd you like a coaching job?"
Lawrence restaurants did love it,
and they shouted out with glee,
"Charlie the Big Fat Coach, come into our eateries!"

LMAO

BoneKrusher 12-09-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8183410)
Yea cause the gator O was so great this year lol what a joke.http://espn.go.com/college-football/...florida-gators

or the Chiefs offense sticks so bad w/o him.

BoneKrusher 12-09-2011 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8183419)
That would be funny, if it made sense. Keep trying.

you dont think the Chiefs and Haley miss him calling the plays?

SenselessChiefsFan 12-09-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8183458)
you dont think the Chiefs and Haley miss him calling the plays?

Well, at least when he was here, people didn't forget to turn on their mics and you didn't see the QB yelling about getting a freaking play.

BoneKrusher 12-09-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8183460)
Well, at least when he was here, people didn't forget to turn on their mics and you didn't see the QB yelling about getting a freaking play.

and the Chiefs could actually score a TD ;)

ChiTown 12-09-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8183458)
you dont think the Chiefs and Haley miss him calling the plays?

I think we miss having an NFL QB, RB and TE more than we miss Weis

BoneKrusher 12-09-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8183464)
I think we miss having an NFL QB, RB and TE more than we miss Weis

we can Blame the QB situation on Pioli or whoever scouts the talent for KC.

the injuries to RB and TE not so much. (well, maybe Pioli should have signed better depth)

mlyonsd 12-09-2011 09:19 AM

How did he do at Notre Dame again? Those guys don't exactly lack for recruiting.

whoman69 12-09-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8183044)
Silver, Florio, Lombardi.....

Lombardi has played tool for Pioli and wanted him fired after what is the best moment of coaching this season, his reaming out of Cassel. Not reported by Lombardi at all was that after that reaming Haley went to talk to Cassel on the bench. Not reported by Lombardi is that the Chiefs won the game because Cassel was inspired to not suck from that point on. Not reported by Lombardi is that confrontation was the main reason behind their 4 game winning streak.

Weis gets all the credit for turning Cassel into a 3rd replacement Pro-Bowl QB without any context behind it. Cassel turns it on against lesser teams with lesser defenses and craps his pants against everyone else.

It seemed pretty clear to me that Weis was always here on a loan program. He wanted to return to a HC position. He was not going to get that shot in the NFL so a return to the college ranks seemed the logical step. The conversation about the tiff with Haley is all one sided as Haley will not even throw a former coach under the bus even though that coach certainly hasn't gone the same route.

If Pioli is using the media to build a case to fire Haley, he is a chickenshit.

As was pointed out in the other thread, three fourths of people here believe Haley should not be fired, but a new Fire Haley thread comes up almost every day by the vocal minority that wants him gone.

Garcia Bronco 12-09-2011 09:21 AM

Charlie is a loser that only accomplished something with a video camera.

HemiEd 12-09-2011 09:25 AM

Nick Athan knows jack and shit about KU football.

The program is 121 years old, so fledgling is not a good word to use. Do they suck right now, yes. Floundering would have been much more appropriate, not fledgling.

They have had players such as Gayle Sayers, Nolan Cromwell, Gilbert Brown and many others come out of the program.

They have been ranked in the top ten numerous times.

Nathan, just leave Kansas alone and shut the **** up you stupid ****.


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