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Rain Man 12-09-2011 01:58 PM

Rank the top 15 (or 20, whatever, I'm not married to a number) LBs in Chiefs history.
 
I'm asking this because I'm curious where our current guys stand. If you can be a starter for a few years you move to the top of any team's list pretty quick.

Here's mine:

1. Willie Lanier
2. Bobby Bell
3. Derrick Thomas
4. Sherrill Headrick
5. E.J. Holub
6. Jim Lynch
7. Derrick Johnson
8. Tamba Hali
9. Anthony Davis
10. Gary Spani
11. Tracy Simien
12. Donnie Edwards
13. Dino Hackett
14. Walt Corey
15. Thomas Howard

Am I too high on DJ and Tamba? Too low? Right now, I see them as being about the same impact as Anthony Davis and Jim Lynch, which would put them in our top ten in history. I think they need a few pro bowls to move further up, though.

Thig Lyfe 12-09-2011 02:02 PM

1. Shawn Barber

and that's it.

Gonzo 12-09-2011 02:06 PM

Marvcus Patton needs to be on this list. I don't think I've ever seen a LB play harder on every down.

Gonzo 12-09-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 8184295)
1. Shawn Barber

and that's it.

Larry Atkins

Gonzo 12-09-2011 02:07 PM

OH SNAP!
New band name...


The Larry Atkins Project

Awesome

Rain Man 12-09-2011 02:08 PM

How would you all alter my list? Do Patton and/or Barber knock anyone off my list?

Gonzo 12-09-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8184318)
How would you all alter my list? Do Patton and/or Barber knock anyone off my list?

Meh, probably not.

Patton was a great LB but he declined steadily after his second or third season with us. I would put him in the top 20, though.

AndChiefs 12-09-2011 02:14 PM

Where's Boomer Grigsby?

HemiEd 12-09-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8184279)
Here's mine:

1. Willie Lanier
2. Bobby Bell
3. Derrick Thomas
4. Sherrill Headrick
5. E.J. Holub
6. Jim Lynch
7. Derrick Johnson
8. Tamba Hali
9. Anthony Davis
10. Gary Spani
11. Tracy Simien
12. Donnie Edwards
13. Dino Hackett
14. Walt Corey
15. Thomas Howard

Well done, good list.
The first three are very difficult to put one in front of another, IMO. I don't think I put Spani in the top 10, even though he was there on effort.
I would move Dino Hackett and Tracy Simien ahead of Spani. I think Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson will certainly end up in the top 10, maybe very high.
Wow, Carl sure ****ed up the Donnie Edwards contribution, and this is a reminder.

HemiEd 12-09-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 8184333)
Where's Boomer Grigsby?

When Kevin gets around to the top 20 H Back conversions, he should be an honorable mention.

Coogs 12-09-2011 02:19 PM

Gunthers hand picked Kendrell Bell?!?! :shrug:

Thig Lyfe 12-09-2011 02:26 PM

1. Rich Scanlon

and that's it.

Skyy God 12-09-2011 02:28 PM

Mike Maslowski. ;)

Fansy the Famous Bard 12-09-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 8184374)
Mike Maslowski. ;)

http://images.wikia.com/cartoonchara...e-wazowski.jpg

Rasputin 12-09-2011 02:52 PM

F U J I T A



Just liked yelling his name when he karate chop the QB or offensive player with the football.

whoman69 12-09-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 8184308)
Marvcus Patton needs to be on this list. I don't think I've ever seen a LB play harder on every down.

Had to play hard. He was almost as slow as Maslowski.

Bump 12-09-2011 05:49 PM

where's the late Wayne Simmons? dude took all the heat in the Monday Night Meltdown, most memorable Chiefs game ever.

Gonzo 12-09-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8184782)
where's the late Wayne Simmons? dude took all the heat in the Monday Night Meltdown, most memorable Chiefs game ever.

I know it's the 1st one I think of. Not the Montana vs Elway game, not the Houston playoff game or even the SB win...
I always think of the mnf game where Simmons and DT went ape shit.

You forget your meds?
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RustShack 12-09-2011 06:33 PM

Bobby Sippio and Casey Printers if we would have used them correct.

Gonzo 12-09-2011 06:39 PM

Manusky and Maslowski

The polish linebackers.

They were always tackling the refs.
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WV 12-09-2011 06:56 PM

No Percy Snow love...LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 12-09-2011 06:59 PM

:hmmm: I don't see Edgerton Hartwell

crossbow 12-09-2011 08:52 PM

Did Glen Cadrez get considered for the HOF? Just wondering. He was a member of Robinson's All-Star defense. That was a train wreck.

milkman 12-09-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8184279)
I'm asking this because I'm curious where our current guys stand. If you can be a starter for a few years you move to the top of any team's list pretty quick.

Here's mine:

1. Willie Lanier
2. Bobby Bell
3. Derrick Thomas
4. Sherrill Headrick
5. E.J. Holub
6. Jim Lynch
7. Derrick Johnson
8. Tamba Hali
9. Anthony Davis
10. Gary Spani
11. Tracy Simien
12. Donnie Edwards
13. Dino Hackett
14. Walt Corey
15. Thomas Howard

Am I too high on DJ and Tamba? Too low? Right now, I see them as being about the same impact as Anthony Davis and Jim Lynch, which would put them in our top ten in history. I think they need a few pro bowls to move further up, though.

Lanier is my all time favorite Chief, but I'd still have to place Bell at #1, with Lanier at #2.

I'd move Edwards down, one of the most overrated Chiefs players ever.

Rain Man 12-09-2011 09:17 PM

Yeah, milkman, Bell and Lanier are 1a and 1b, and it doesn't matter which. As for Edwards, he faded, but I thought he was quite solid his first five years or so in the league. Who would you place above him?

So overall, do people agree with my assessment that we have two of the Chiefs all-time ten best linebackers on the field this Sunday? I'm curious because it's not something that I would have assumed until I try to identify people above them on the list.

KCrockaholic 12-09-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8185121)

I'd move Edwards down, one of the most overrated Chiefs players ever.

You just ****ing hate the 90's don't you?

Ok well he was late 90's at least.

But he was Marty's boy.

MoreLemonPledge 12-09-2011 09:37 PM

Snoop Minnis.

88TG88 12-09-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 8184371)
1. Rich Scanlon

and that's it.

this

shut it down guyz

Pitt Gorilla 12-09-2011 09:55 PM

Bell would be #1 for me.

milkman 12-09-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 8185154)
You just ****ing hate the 90's don't you?

Ok well he was late 90's at least.

But he was Marty's boy.

Linebackers are guys that should be knocking RBs on thier asses.

Donnie should have been a Cowboy, cuase he just rode the RBs like a pony.

TheGuardian 12-09-2011 10:33 PM

And Marvcus Patton continues to go unappreciated.......

KCrockaholic 12-09-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8185261)
Linebackers are guys that should be knocking RBs on thier asses.

Donnie should have been a Cowboy, cuase he just rode the RBs like a pony.

Yeah he was pretty soft.

Deberg_1990 12-09-2011 10:37 PM

Someone needs to start a top 15 QB's in Chiefs history thread.

KCrockaholic 12-09-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8185268)
Someone needs to start a top 15 QB's in Chiefs history thread.

LMAO

Gonzo 12-09-2011 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8185264)
And Marvcus Patton continues to go unappreciated.......

Hey man, I showed him all sorts of love earlier.

I know you old-timers love Bell and Lanier but DT was the best LB this club has ever seen. He really should be 1st on the list.
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suzzer99 12-09-2011 11:28 PM

Pretty sure the Chiefs were the only male sports team to field two players named Tracy at the same time - Simien and Rogers.

Glad to see Dino Hackett getting some love. Tim Cofield anyone?

RippedmyFlesh 12-09-2011 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8185268)
Someone needs to start a top 15 QB's in Chiefs history thread.

15? I gut stuck after 2 or 3.

Ebolapox 12-10-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 8185353)
15? I gut stuck after 2 or 3.

hmmm........

1) len dawson
2) joe montana
3) trent green
4) steve deberg
5) rich gannon
6) bill kenney
7) elvis grbac
8) steve bono
9) dave krieg
10) matt cassel
11) mike livingston
12) cotton davidson
13) steve fuller
14) tyler thigpen
15) damon huard

ain't pretty.

crazycoffey 12-10-2011 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 8185496)
hmmm........

1) len dawson
2) joe montana
3) trent green
4) steve deberg
5) rich gannon
6) bill kenney
7) elvis grbac
8) steve bono
9) dave krieg
10) matt cassel
11) mike livingston
12) cotton davidson
13) steve fuller
14) tyler thigpen
15) damon huard

ain't pretty.

No way Thigpen and Huard are worse than Cassel.....
And where the **** is Moon?

crazycoffey 12-10-2011 01:19 AM

Hell Marcus Allen is a better QB than a few of those.... ROFL

RippedmyFlesh 12-10-2011 01:41 AM

15 is a lot for qb's every team's list would get ugly at some point.

Cheater5 12-10-2011 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 8185329)
Pretty sure the Chiefs were the only male sports team to field two players named Tracy at the same time - Simien and Rogers.

Glad to see Dino Hackett getting some love. Tim Cofield anyone?

Tim fecking Cofield. Elizabeth City State and Number 54 for the Chiefs. Dude was carved from granite...strong like bull, smart like tractor.

I went to a charity event while in H.S. and somehow 'won' his jersey. I think he played a couple seasons, then finished his career in the CFL.

milkman 12-10-2011 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 8185328)
Hey man, I showed him all sorts of love earlier.

I know you old-timers love Bell and Lanier but DT was the best LB this club has ever seen. He really should be 1st on the list.
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I loved DT and what he brought to this team, but he wasn't nearly the complete player that both Bell and Lanier were.

They were beasts that pounded you in the run game, were outstanding in coverage, and could get after the QB when asked to blitz, especially Bell, who would easily be among the all time leaders in sacks if they asked him to get after the QB as much as DT, and they kept sack records then.

Stewie 12-10-2011 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 8185667)
Tim fecking Cofield. Elizabeth City State and Number 54 for the Chiefs. Dude was carved from granite...strong like bull, smart like tractor.

I went to a charity event while in H.S. and somehow 'won' his jersey. I think he played a couple seasons, then finished his career in the CFL.

LMAO

Oh Jebus. This made me laugh out loud.

Bronco Rob 12-10-2011 07:08 AM

1.) Percy Snow - Ruined career riding a moped. Picked at #13. King Carl should have drafted Emmitt Smith instead still available at #17.


2.) Al Wenglikowski - Great name.










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Bronco Rob 12-10-2011 07:11 AM

Derrick Thomas didn't play the run or the pass.

He was surrounded by talented players and focal point of the defenses in Kansas City.

He has 601 career tackles.

He has 1 I repeat 1 career interception.

He only led the NFL in sacks once. (1990)

In the biggest game of his career (a drubbing by the Bills) he was on the bench.

He never took his team to the next level. (3 career playoff victories)


1.) Bruce Smith 200.0

2.) Reggie White+ 198.0

3.) Kevin Greene 160.0

4.) Chris Doleman 150.5

5.) Michael Strahan 141.5

6.) John Randle 137.5

6.) Richard Dent 137.5

8.) Leslie O'Neal 132.5

8.) Lawrence Taylor+ 132.5

10.) Rickey Jackson 128.0

11.) Derrick Thomas 126.5

12.) Simeon Rice 122.0

13.) Clyde Simmons 121.5

14.) Jason Taylor (34) 120.5

15.) Sean Jones 113.0

16.) Greg Townsend 109.5 1983-1997

17.) Pat Swilling 107.5

18.) Trace Armstrong 106.0

19.) Neil Smith 104.5

19.)Kevin Carter (35) 104.5

I guess since all DT did was sack the QB all these players belong in the HOF.

redsurfer11 12-10-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 8185328)
Hey man, I showed him all sorts of love earlier.

I know you old-timers love Bell and Lanier but DT was the best LB this club has ever seen. He really should be 1st on the list.
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Guessing that you never saw them play. DT will never move above Bell and Lanier.

Bronco Rob 12-10-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsurfer11 (Post 8185686)
Guessing that you never saw them play. DT will never move above Bell and Lanier.



Bell & Lanier played the run.


Remember Derrick Thomas's "best game" do yourself a favor take a look at that last play and see why the Chiefs lost.





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BoneKrusher 12-10-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 8185496)
hmmm........

1) len dawson
2) joe montana
3) trent green
4) steve deberg
5) rich gannon
6) bill kenney
7) elvis grbac
8) steve bono
9) dave krieg
10) matt cassel
11) mike livingston
12) cotton davidson
13) steve fuller
14) tyler thigpen
15) damon huard

ain't pretty.

looking at this list and trying to figure out why some people cant believe the Chiefs haven't won a playoff game since 95.

milkman 12-10-2011 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8185694)
looking at this list and trying to figure out why some people cant believe the Chiefs haven't won a playoff game since 95.

Some people are wondering about that?

Who?

BoneKrusher 12-10-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8185696)
Some people are wondering about that?

Who?

steeler fans

i live is steeler country where 4 outta 5 people pull for the Steelers.

KCTitus 12-10-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob
1.) Percy Snow - Ruined career riding a moped. Picked at #13. King Carl should have drafted Emmitt Smith instead still available at #17.

Marty didnt like RB's that were quick and could slip through the line...he liked Fullbacks and bruisers that ran into the line and fell down.

Phobia 12-10-2011 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8185121)
Lanier is my all time favorite Chief, but I'd still have to place Bell at #1, with Lanier at #2.

I'd move Edwards down, one of the most overrated Chiefs players ever.

That's what I was gonna say.

cdcox 12-10-2011 12:24 PM

I'm going to rank the top 8 (after that it doesn't matter as much IMO) thusly:


1. Bobby Bell
2. Willie Lanier
3. Derrick Thomas
4. Sherrill Headrick
5. EJ Holub
6. Tamba Hali
7. Derrick Johnson
8. Jim Lynch

Bell in front of Lanier and both in front of DT.
I never saw EJ or Headrick play LB, but I am going to give credence to the All Pro and Pro Bowl selections.
I moved Tamba and DJ in front of Lynch. Lynch played with three HOFers on the front 7, not to mention guys like Aaron Brown and Curly Culp. I think it is easier to make plays when you are playing with stellar talent around you.
Right now I have Tamba ahead of DJ, even thought DJ is a more complete LBer. DJ is having his first great season at age 29. If he can add 2 or 3 more great seasons, I'll move him up. Tamba has more years of being an impact player.


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