12/13/11 updated draft chart
 

KC still sitting outside of the top 10

1 Indianapolis 0-13 .548
2 Minnesota 2-11 .567
3 St. Louis 2-11 .582
4 Washington 4-9 .457
5/6F Jacksonville 4-9 .505
5/6F Carolina 4-9 .505
7 Miami 4-9 .524
8 Cleveland 4-9 .529
9 Tampa Bay 4-9 .538
10 Philadelphia 5-8 .490
11 Buffalo 5-8 .514
12 Kansas City 5-8 .524

And at 5-9, we do nothing but move up on that list.

Sweet...

A botched snap from Phyllis and a hail mary is keeping us from drafting 4th now.

Awesome.

that ****ing hail mary is going to cost us a QB


we can't even fail right

Is there any chance our strength of schedule changes enough by the end of the year to win a tiebreaker with anyone in the draft?

Probably a question for CD Cox.

Yes, we do fail at failing...

were not gonna win any tie breakers with us still having to play green bay

It is what it is. They are going to have to trade up to select one of the top QB's.

I could see up to 6 of those teams drafting a QB. That's a real pain in my ass.

Here's a site that has the mock draft with order

http://www.footballdraftnotebook.com/MockDraft2012.html

http://www.footballdraftnotebook.com/Draft%20Order.html

If Palko remains QB for the remainder, we go 5-11.
that moves us up a couple, but not enough

If we draft an ILB with our first pick, I will flip my lid.

1 Indianapolis 0-13 .548 -- No doubt. (1)
2 Minnesota 2-11 .567 -- Unlikely.
3 St. Louis 2-11 .582 -- Unlikely.
4 Washington 4-9 .457 --- No doubt. (2)
5/6F Jacksonville 4-9 .505 --- Maybe (3?)
5/6F Carolina 4-9 .505 --- No
7 Miami 4-9 .524 --- Yep but who to take (4)
8 Cleveland 4-9 .529 -- Yep but who to take (5)
9 Tampa Bay 4-9 .538 -- Unlikely
10 Philadelphia 5-8 .490 -- Yep but who to take (6)
11 Buffalo 5-8 .514 -- Yep but who to take (7)
12 Kansas City 5-8 .524

Problem is i think there are only 3 QBs worth taking in the first round so we'd have to get to where Jax is....and convince them that Gabbard is their future so we can have ours.

I think that is a tall task.

If we lose out there is a 88% chance we will draft between 6 and 9, with picks 7 or 8 the most likely. Slight chance of drafting 4th or 5th and slight chance of drafting 10th or 11th.

Philly will stick with Vick for 1 more year. Buffalo just gave Fitz 50 some odd million dollars. They aren't grabbing a QB. Cleveland is sitting nice because they have 2 first round picks to use.

I am not so sure about Philly, i think they have had enough of Vick. Good call of Buffalo, i forgot they extended him. Thanks.

Cleveland will definitely move up in my opinion, and i think that crushes our chances. They will get the 3rd qb that is left

Peter King wrote yesterday that he thinks Cleveland should stick with McCoy 1 more year because the surrounding talent is worse than he is. I'm not sure I agree with him, but I guess there is a chance they don't go QB.

Really? An ILB? No way, man.

teams we need to get a ahead for sure and thats Miami and Washington

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with them-just info

I think a RT is our biggest need outside QB if we can't trade or find one in FA

That would be great for us, but i dont see it happening. I hope that one of the three falls to Carolina, that is the place to trade up.

I don't recall is Hollmgren took McCoy or if that was the previous GM. If Hollmgren did take him he might want to give the kid another chance. That would work in our favor.

KC:
GB
Oak
@Den

Mia:
@Buf
@NE
NYJ

Wash:
@NYG
Minn
@Phi

That's great. You can grab one in rounds 2-4.

Landry Blackledge is already looking for houses in Olathe.

This, especially in this year's draft.

Holmgren took him, but has been pretty neutral about him in comments to the press about whether he's the QBOTF.

The only teams on that list taking a QB are Indi, Miami, and Washington so we have to get ahead of Washington or Miami by either sucking or by trade.

Not likely to get in front of Miami. Some chance for the 'skins, but even that's iffy.

**** you, Phyllis and Palko...

No. This is the strength of schedule that is based on all 16 games/teams on our schedule. The ones that only take into account the teams we have played through the first 13 games will change a lot considering 0-13 Colts are figured in, but the 13-0 Packers are not yet in our strength of schedule. Hope this makes sense.

But we won those games. Remember how great it felt for some at the time? Now it might come back to haunt us, but oh well at least some got a temporary high off the win before reality sinks in.

Eh, I could see Miami beating Buffalo and they often play the Jets tough.

We'll probably drop all of our remaining games to finish 5-11.

You don't think Jacksonville will take a QB?

That would be back to back QBs taken in the first round by Jax. Doubt they will do that.

I tend to agree. Something to consider: New regime might want a new QB.

They aren't giving up on Gabbert that quickly. Even a new coach will realize that the Jags have literally nothing on that offense outside of MJD.

I will never root for the Chiefs to lose a game!!

They just extended the GM that drafted him.

Unless Palko is starting against the Broncos, I can't see the Chiefs losing that game. And I give the Chiefs a chance against the Raiders if Palko isn't starting, but its gonna be the same shit where we have no running game and can't stop theirs.

Has all the makings of a marathon chase of Peyton Manning to me

I swear, if King Carl becomes the GM of the Dolphins and takes a franchise QB before we do, I'm gonna drink a gallon of antifreeze and jump off a cliff head first into a burning AIDS tree.

That's the saddest thing I've read today.

Excuse me while I go practice firing a shotgun with my toes.

Only losers do that!!

Go jags thursday night and bucs sat night

Am I still a loser if I root for them if they play Stanzi? It's not a crime to hope he could possibly be our future, is it?!

I could see Miami trading up to get in front of Washington and Washington taking whatever QB Miami doesn't.

I'd also prefer to see Stanzi lose out than the Pal-kopalypse take the field.

If we lose out, I bet we will be 5-7 depending on SOS. The Phins and Skins will both win 1 more game.


Hopefully the Skins think Grossman is the man and Moore the man in Miami.

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Just found this on ESPN, updated draft standings.


Current NFL Draft order

1. Colts
2. Vikings
3. Rams
4. Panthers
5. Redskins
6. Browns
7. Dolphins
8. Jaguars
9. Buccaneers
10. Chiefs
11. Eagles
12. Bills

Meh, the Eagles and Bills aren't taking a QB anyway.

If we lose out there is hope to get to 5 or 6 if the SKins, Phins, Jags, and Bucs win one more game.

No but it's like a leaderboard on the PGA tour. The less people ahead of you the easier to get to the top.

Entirely sarcastic.

I don't wanna look thru the thread but what are the Phins, Browns and Skins schedule the rest of the way out?

Which 6?

we really need to slide in front of the dolphins...i think the redskins and dolphins are the only two locks to draft a QB (well, the colts but we aren't catching them)...

It would be nice if one of those two bit on Manning.

One win would only put the Bucs behind us. It will take 2 wins for the Dolphins, Redskins, Browns for us to get in front of them.

I don't think it would be the skins. Manning doesn't fit into Shanahan's bootleg offense. But with Carl there is hope that the Dolphins would go after Manning.

Not from the Nati but threw on the Bengals

We need to move up about 4 spots to get Coolio.


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The hail mary and rivers****up is gonna cost us.

The only way Pioli is gonna draft a qb is if he is forced to by one just sitting there. I don't really see him trading up. He did supposedly try and trade up last year so maybe it was a sign to come.

FWIW I'm not sure all the nfl gms are as high on RGIII as we on the CP are. I think he's probably rated behind Landry Jones at 4 right now. After the combine and predraft stuff that will likely change.

I have no doubt about that Knowmo. I can't quote it as I don't remember where I read it but I remember someone saying gms were afraid of his under center stuff.


I think the NFL is going more towards the Cam style. I think Tebow can be effective he just needs to keep improving as a passer. It's a shame Vince Y was about 5 years too early.

I think RGIII will be a top 10 pick for sure.

Interesting to know what your take is KnowMo.

I don't see him as anything like Tebow, maybe a little like Newton.

RG3 better than Tebow?

That's impossible.

The problem with VY is between the ears.

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Both of those teams would beat us by 3 scores on a neutral field.

How can this team even suck at being bad? The Chiefs are worse than all but maybe 3 or 4 teams on that list and somehow we're going to be picking behind them.

This has to be one of the 5 hardest teams in sports to root for.

There will never be anything like Tebow again. He is a rare breed. He is just a phenomenal football player who has a Michael Jordan-like fire burning deep inside him. Tebow's drive and work ethic will turn him into a 60%+ passer sooner rather than later and his competitiveness and will to win will turn him into the best QB in the league.

Except Jordan was good even when the other team wasn't laying off.

LMAOLMAOLMAO


:clap:

This Tebow shit is going a little too far. The amount of shit that has to happen ever week for Tebow to win is ****ing amazing.

Marion Barber had to **** up epically 2.

We just need to trade up with Carolina.

Whats the price gonna be though?

Everyone else realize that Tim Tebow is essentially Mark Sanchez, right?

Sanchez actually has a whole slew of 4th quarter comebacks; a bunch of them were because he sucked for 1/2 the game. He's a hell of an athlete and his teammates enjoy playing for him.

Yet in NYJ, Sanchez get absolutely murdered whereas Tebow is a deity. Give it time, Timmy. You can tell luck from skill by its duration. By next year you'll stop having stupid shit like Marion Barber stepping out of bounds and suddenly you'll be just another quarterback with some comebacks on his resume. Fortunately for you, you'll still be in this shithole of a division, so you may still be a playoff quarterback on the strength of your defense (again, just like good ol' Sanchez).

That said - I'm still enjoying the hell out of the Tebow thing this year. I've been rooting for them for 3 weeks because my options are them, the Raiders and the Chargers. Tebow, for as bad as he is at actually throwing a football, seems like a damn nice guy and good leader. And to his credit, unlike Cassel, Tebow is generally able to put together a nice quarter at the end of the game. Cassel would just continue to suck for the full 60 minutes, even with that Broncos defense at his disposal.

It's not his fault ESPN (or Lindsay Vonn) won't stop sucking his dick all the time.

Yeah Barber gave us a chance, and you don't give a great QB a chance because he will make you pay. Kyle Orton would have choked but there was no doubt in my mind that Tebow was going to get us back in the game. He has something all the great QB's have... the "It Factor".

Give Carolina our 2012 1st, 3rd, and 2013 2nd for their 1st and 5th.

That's my guess.

He has something none of the great QB's have: a 48% completion percentage.