Haley's termination. Cliff notes and highlites?
 

So I've worked long hours the last couple of days, and haven't had much time to read the threads.

In perusing a couple of threads, I've seen someone alluding to "things we've learned" about this firing.

Can someone enlighten me what it is we've learned?

We have learned much, grasshopper.

FAX

that you're a dumbass for missing this as it happened

Hindsight is 50/50

The consensus seems to be that we're ****ing ****ed.

We've learned that the next Chiefs head coach was born in a manger long, long ago. For He is the only one who meets the fan's criteria for head coach of the KC Chiefs. Which is especially appropo considering the timing of the holidays and the celebration of His birth.

yepppp

How ****ed are we you ask? Well, we're so ****ing ****ed that we couldn't be more ****ed on our ****ingest day even if we had an electrified ****ing machine.

I think I speak for the entire Chiefs nation when I say, "It's a Pioli world and we're just visiting."

FAX

We learned that Pioli and Hunt don't think of the children.

Dark times are ahead.

We've learned a lot about nothing. And almost not worth going over again.

We need to hire a coach. Draft a QB. And win some god damn football games.

All the stuff in between is nonsense.

LMAO

That question was hilarious.

And I ****ing loved the looks on their faces.

Pioli wasn't thinking of Haleys children when he fired him right before christmas.

Pioli pets a white cat.

We also learned FAX can unwrap a starburst wrapper with his tongue. Or maybe that was luv, I can't remember at this point. The whole thing is a blur.

We learned that we should have never drafted LJ. Vermiel would have 3 rings by now.

LMAO Awesome. I don't see how she possibly asked that with a straight face.

We learned that what ever coach is hired, CP won't approve.

**** Bernard Pollard.

It was ALLLLLL Bernard ****ing Pollard.

Best comment I saw about that : "Kornacki always gets a pass because she's female, and she's nice. Great qualities for a mom... not so great for a reporter."

Even though the rest of the kc media are goons, I'm sure they were all trying to hold in a giant laugh.

Although if I remember correctly, her 2nd question was solid. Just don't remember what it was.

Cliff notes.

-Haley is fired Monday morning.

-Pioli is taking a beating from a lot of folks in the media, which is well deserved.

-Haley's 'bizarre behavior' seems to be getting more attention than his coaching record.

- Lots of speculation that Pioli himself was somehow leaking all that 'bad press' about haley all season. Not sayin' it's true. Just sayin'.

- Some local douche had an e-peen measuring contest with Charles Robinson on Twitter while C-Rob was throwing dirt around about the whole situation. I'm not local, so I don't really care who it was.

- I think there's like one or two people who are happy and think this is a great direction, several who think he got a raw deal from Pioli, and the majority who just think he, Clark, and Pioli should all eat a bullet.

My personal stance is somewhere in between there. I think Haley got a raw deal. I think the deck was stacked against him from the start.. but he actually did enough to justify getting fired. I'm just not sure those justifiable reasons are the real reason he was fired. If that makes sense. Even though I understand it, it's still leaving a nasty taste in my mouth.

Now what did I learn? I'll be honest... the main theme I'm getting here is that Haley is an abrasive dick and Pioli is a total ****ing sleaze. That's my impression of the whole situation.

Weis washed his hands of Cassel & his improvement in 2010 is Haley's
Weis homers & Jayhawk fans question their faith in God

It was about timing again ... only this time it was something like, "Why now? Did you feel pressure from the fans or the players?"

They dodged that one along with all the rest.

FAX

So, essentially, we didn't learn a damn thing, is what I'm getting from this.

exactly

Not true, Mr. milkman. Not true at all.

We learned that it's better to act like you know what you don't know than to pretend you don't know what you know unless you know that what you don't know is something you should know.

FAX

We learned that Clark and Pioli are a couple o' douches. Haley wasn't consistent enough. The end.

I think we're learning a few things from this situation about our fan base. For the first time in my lifetime (26 years) the majority of the fan base wants us to draft a Quarterback. These are really interesting times because also for the first time in my lifetime I feel we're pretty close to seeing Arrowhead empty week in week out if A) Josh McDaniels is hired as the head coach. B) Matt Cassel is brought back as the starter without atleast us drafting a rookie QB.

Just 364 more days until the end of the world as we know it ends.

I feel fine. Ok.

Who do you guys think is most likely to be the next coach in Kansas City? I would like to see Jeff Fisher as the next head coach.

Do people keep saying this exact phrase, verbatim, simply to annoy me?

With all due respect, f**k Jeff Fisher.

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Who do you want?

What's wrong with Jeff Fisher? I think he is a great coach. Maybe you want to bring Brian Billick in? That would certainly be reeruned.

I don't want either, but at least Billick won a SB.

Who has a legitimate chance at coming here? Would you rather see a college coach get bumped up or an ex-NFL coach? Kirby Smart of Alabama is an idea.

No shit.

I find it comical that people think Jeff Fisher is some amazing coach while Billick is some slapdick.

I don't know about many highlights. As for a lowlight, it appears we are going to be stuck with cassel forever.

I don't think Fisher would be my choice, but he probably gets a tough rap around here. He might have had the worst salary cap situation of any coach in the salary cap era, and an owner who force fed him a QB he didn't want. He certainly has flaws, but he was also a couple feet from taking the 99 Rams to OT too. That's pretty tough. Then had to watch his team be gutted and still rebuilt it into something halfway competitive. Not sure that means he can do it again though.

Even Herm wants no part of Pioli

Of course I'm looking at this through the glasses that say there's a 50+% chance McDaniels might be our next coach. I'd rather hire Fisher 14 times in a row over that.

Force fed a QB: Well, that covers from 2006 on. What about the other 10+ years?

Couple of feet from OT: Should have never even gotten the chance. Refs blew the Music City Miracle call. Refs get that call right, and he has a career 2-6 playoff record.

He gets a tough rap here because he was an average coach.

Yeah, but that's sports. We go over this left and right and sometimes it just comes down to luck. If the tuck rule didn't exist, maybe the Patriots never have a dynasty and 10 years of NFL football is wildly different.

We decided MM knows as much as Pioli.

And oPdiapers took your spot.

There was a bunch of rumors saying Haley would be fired. Now there are a bunch of similar rumors McDaniels is getting hired. That makes me hate life but it is what it is.

We learned that Clark is the one that fired Haley. In the press conference Pioli looked nervous. There are a few of us that think that Clark put Pioli on notice that things had to improve. Pioli admitted he had to do his job better.
We learned that Haley and Pioli disagreed about the Tyson Jackson pick and it has been a problem between them ever since. Haley didn't want Tyson Jackson. We learned that Weis didn't want Cassel.

Pioli has 50/50 vision.

They said we get Luck.

Said it before, but I"m not jumping on a bandwagon just to jump on a bandwagon.

I'll browse and pick a guy. It's a process of elimination, and Fisher has been eliminated.

What fisher did was kinda ****ed up.

He put the squeeze on his owner to pick between himself and the 'franchise QB' they had drafted. They picked him and then a few weeks later he was all like "Ha, I win. **** you, I'm OUT!"

I dunno why but I trust Pioli to make a good hire. He's got no reason to be rushed this time around.

So step up azz.

You waited 1 chance.

You knew who not too. Jump.

Cosmo playing bitch.

Coach no me choose.

Why give **** you?

Yeah, but the rule does exist, and was correctly enforced.

The refs flat out blew the MCM call.

Regardless, I see another Martyocre HC.

No thanks.

Nope. IT is much worse than that.

Good news is, its do or die for Pioli.

If it were Carl, would he have fired Haley?
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Billick got lucky. He was never able to bring his offensive genius to Baltimore.

Hell, he picked Grbac to be his QB, and then Boller.

No.

Fixed that.

it will be a cluster .. no doubt .......

sha right! If only we wearn't 5 games out of first place for Luck. Shiiit.

Things we learned:

1) Haley didnt run Weis out of town. He left because he washed his hands of trying to develop Cassel at the halfway point and ALL of the credit for Cassels improvement was due to HALEY, NOT WEIS.

2) Romeo wants the job, but wants to hire his own coaches, if he doesn't get it he thinks whoever does should be able to hire his own guys as coaches.

3) Pioli was leaking rumors about Haley all year

4) The players were totally in Haleys corner.

That's why one of the leading theories to Haley's untimely firing was Bowe going to Pioli about Haley.

what? this is the first I have heard this one. Link?

It's wasn't luck so much as it was a stellar D.

Luck never hurts though...

Huh?

Haley was being a huge dick to Bowe during practice.

Bowe went to Pioli to complain.

Source. This is bullshit. I've been all over this shit and haven't heard any such thing.

Absolutely zero truth to that.

FFS Haley rode Bowe since day one in 2009 and Bowe has said over and over how much credit he gives to Haley for taking his game to the next level.

What sense does it make for Bowe to go to Pioli to rat out Haley about something that has been going on for 3 years now?

Just more BS thrown out there by Pioli to defame Haley.

There are reports that Haley went off on Bowe and then Bowe went to Pioli. Really not a good idea to do that to a player the team is trying to sign long term.

Interesting. Never saw anything about this.

How exactly do you know there is 0 truth to that?

There is a rumor floating about that Haley pissed off Bowe who ran to Pioli who told Haley to knock it off who told Bowe he was a pussy for crying to the principal.

Hard to know who was right in that deal. Bowe needs a new contract, so it's not a good time to alienate him. Unless you're Haley and you're still trying to coach the guy up. Pioli, on the other hand, might have considered the possibility that Bowe needs to listen to his coach and quit whining. Bowe, on the other hand, needs to regain his diva status if he's going to hold out for a big payday.

FAX

HMMMM

I have no doubts that Haley was being a dick to him in practice.

Bowe dropped a wide open touchdown pass.

AGAIN

I know you never played football, but when you screw up, you get yelled at and the more the problem exists, the worse it gets till the problem is fixed.

Its called coaching and Haley has rode Bowe since day one.

Do I think Bowe went right to Pioli to complain about it?

NOT

A

CHANCE

Difficult to prove a negative.

I've been trying for ... almost ... ever, with no luck. Zero. Nil. Nada. I can't prove it, though.

FAX

I dunno, maybe Haley called Bowe a bunch of racist shit or something.

There is a line on that shit, especially to a guy who has arrived like Bowe.

And quite frankly, Haley has no right to do that when he's trotting out Palko, who basically makes it impossible for the wide receivers to have good games.

Some of you are the biggest pussies out there.

You act like the right way to coach a player in practice after a game in which he dropped a wide open touchdown is to make him a fresh batch of chocolate chip cookies and warm milk and give him the day off.

FFS, its football.

Do your job or you will get yelled at for it and worked harder so that you don't continue to make the same mistakes over and over.

Regardless of if there is any truth to the Bowe story, it is a ****ing FACT that the majority of the players in that locker room loved Haley.

We wouldn't have Steve Breaston on this team right now if not for Haley, and Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers, and many more players have publicly expressed how much they liked having Todd as their coach.