Chiefsplanet, the bastion of negativity, too positive?
 

The general consensus around here, even from those who felt Haley was far and away the biggest problem with the Chiefs, seems to be that Cassel is done in KC.

However, the overwhelming feeling that I'm hearing in both the national and local media is that Cassel will be the starter next season.

What say you?

Heart says no.
Brain says yes.

He will be here, Orton will be traded for pick or picks and we will draft some random RG in the first round.

Thats the Chiefs way...

Traded? Ummm

I'm just going ahead and expecting it, and if it doesn't happen then I'll be pleasently surprised.

Orton won't be traded for anything.

No. If he starts week 1, i will not be watching the chiefs next year.

I foresee a rookie qb, Orton and Stanzi as our qbs next year.

Only way I can see him still being here is if Orton says FU to KC and signs with someone else.

I voted no, just because I'll have no reason to pay attention to the Chiefs if I'm wrong. That would be very, very, very disappointing. More disappointing than a first round playoff loss.

Warning: Your opinion may be slightly downgrade on the credibility scale by the fact that you apparently have no clue WTF you are talking about.

If Orton plays well these next two games, Clark Hunt may make the decision easy for Scott Pioli. If he can't cut Matt Cassel, Hunt may.

I hope so.

Its not an opinion...

Its nothing more than the Chiefs way...

even better..

It's an erroneous opinion. Orton will be a free agent and can't be traded.

I think I'm the opposite.

I don't see how anybody with half a brain couldn't see how horrible Cassel is.

But at the end of the day, I don't have any faith in Pioli - I think he's absolutely in love with Cassel.

then they will release him.

Makes zero ****ing difference does it?

Pretty much...

Next year is a huge bust already...

Orton's contract is up this year, man. He can sign with whomever he wants.

The Magic 8-ball says 'Watch the next two games'. If Orton looks like he did against GB for the next two games, it becomes a simple decision. There is no way (save sheer stupidity, which is always an option) to keep Cassel around with his current contract to be a back up. Pioli might not be the best judge of talent, but Clark knows how to save money.

If Orton fornicates the canine, we are screwed.

The Haley firing has exonerated Cassel to this FO. Slate wiped clean, I voted yes.

right, I was wrong in Terms of Orton...

Jesus ladies.

If Cassel is the starter next year after what we witnessed from Orton the other day, im done with this team as long as Pioli is in charge.

What I hope will happen:

Sign Orton to a 1-2 year deal.
Draft a QB in the 1st round.
Go into next year with Orton, Stanzi and the rookie as our QBs.

What will probably happen:

Sign Orton to a 5 year deal.
Draft a RT in the 1st round.
Orton and Cassel have a cripple fight for the starting QB position.

Not sure. Maybe Pioli learned from the Haley mistake.

I will know for sure when we hire the new coach. Will he be a puppet? Or will Pioli hire someone who does decide what QB stays in his team.
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Yes...he will.

I think the poll "will Matt Cassel be the 2012 starter for the Chiefs" should have a third option of

"God I hope not, but I have this nagging fear that our front office is just that f-ing stupid."

^This.

LMAO

This site's name should be changed to Kneejerkreactionplanet.com

or at least the lounge.

...that's exactly what will happen. LMAO

Amen brother amen.

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Check the part in bold...

pretty much this, he should be axed but there are so many scenarios he would come back. So it's a pain in the ass to see which they are seeing things. especially with this bullshit with McDaniels possibly being an OC candidate after he's fired by the Rams.

I thought about it.

That is my fear.

It seems to have worked for some of the fans.

Voted no, but I have no confidence in my vote.

I fear you are correct. :deevee: :deevee: :deevee:

I don't understand how though.

Orton came in....and in one game, proved that Cassel was a ****ing fraud.

Let's hope he continues to hammer nails into that coffin.

It's pretty much a double-edged sword right now. On one hand.....if Orton comes in and beats the Raiders and the Broncos.....Cassel has to be finished. But if he does that....then we're probably ****ed out of a QB in the 1st round.

Cassel has to go, under any circumstance.

As much as I want a 1st round QB, I don't really want ANY 1st round QB (I'm looking at you, Landry Jones).

I think getting rid of Cassel has to be THE priority right now. If he's still around, they will be too tempted to think he can be the present AND the future.

I honestly don't think that they draft a QB in the 1st if Cassel is still here. He has to be gone for them to consider it.

This will more than likely happen...

I don't think we're even in the running for a QB, but if Clark Hunt wants one, he will have to make the decision to go get one, no matter what it costs.

It's pretty simple. Drafting a QB in R1 is not completely within their control. Other teams can draft a QB, trade up, or refuse to trade down. However, getting rid of Cassel is 100% within their control. Failing to rid the franchise of him is inexcusable.

That is covered under the YES option, which I voted for.

I don't want Landry Jones either. I'd rather have Foles over Jones.

I think it comes down to if they give Orton a contract. If they sign him to a 1-2 year deal....then Cassel has to go. You're not paying a $5 million bonus for a backup QB. And Orton has already proven that he doesn't want to be a backup.

I am in for Cassel coming back as the QB and for all the people who said "if Cassel is back I am switching teams" to get the **** off Chiefs Planet!

23 no votes so far, 9 yes votes.

Pretty much the opposite of what I've been hearing on 810, ESPN, and NFLN.

I think this might need another poll. I wonder if the media talking heads really think Cassel can be a good QB, whereas most here are convinced he cannot ever be.

not sure if serious

This is a great example of no matter how painfully obvious something is, there will always be those 5 percenters out there who just see the world differently.

You keep on supporting mediocrity.

A little premature to poll this. I'm with the "wait and see how Orton does in the last to games" group. I do think Cassel with be on the roster nest year though. This is a huge draft for Pioli.
If he can somehow bundle Cassel and picks for a high trade, then pick RGIII that would be capital to building success.

negativity there is no negativity on here...

Cassel can't be the starter next year. He just can't be. It cannot happen. CANNOT.

I can't help but think Pioli and the Chiefs cannot possibly be that stupid.

I said after that Denver game that I will not spend another dime on the Chiefs until they get rid of Cassel and do something about the QB position.

Palko and Cassel? WTF were they thinking going into the season with those 2 stooges playing the most important position on the field?

I thought this poll was voting for what you think the Chiefs WILL do not what they SHOULD do?

I don't want Cassel more than the next guy but I don't see Pioli not wanting his boy to play.

I'm going to put faith in Pioli to make a sound, rational decision.

No one can objectively look at Orton's body of work vs Cassel's the last three seasons and conclude Cassel is the superior player.

I voted no because I have to - I can't believe Cassel will be back and continue to be a fan...

I have zero confidence in that vote, however.

To trade a player who is not even under contract?

Are we going to sign and trade him?

Come on dude, pay attention.

Not premature at all.

Schefter and Mort have been saying since before the Green Bay game that it didn't matter how well Orton plays, Cassel is coming back.

That's correct.

Firing Haley when they did made him the fall guy for this season. Cassel will return, and Orton will get a 3+ year deal from a team like Seattle.

I hope I'm wrong, but unless we somehow move up in the draft to snag one of the top three QBs (or unless Manning were to end up in KC)....we are likely looking at one more chance for Cassel.

I hope for scenario 1, but if you look at the positive, scenario 2 would still be much better than what we started with this season. I'm assuming, of course, that Orton would easily win that contest. That being said, I still want to see what we have in Stanzi.

Orton isn't going to want to sign a 1 or 2 year deal.

Exactly my thought. :huh:

I have lost all faith that the Chiefs will do what needs to be done.

This is my worst nightmare, and all the more terrifying because of how possible it is.

So the majority of people actually think the Chiefs WILL DO the right thing and not bring Cassel back as the starter? You obviously haven't watched this franchise for the past 20 years and its down right absurdity in loyalty to players and shitty QBs.

Yep.

That's it! You, sir, can kiss that n00b of the year trophy goodbye!

No kidding.

In politics that statement would be the equivalent of punching a baby in the face on national tv.

One thing we can thank Clark Hunt, Scott Pioli and Todd Haley for is they cleaned house throughout Arrowhead. To predict what will happen based on the Peterson and Steadman years is to ignore everything that has happened the last 3 years. Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli are from a different school of thinking and would not think twice about canning Cassel if a better option presents itself. It would be no different than when Pioli and Belichick decided to keep Brady over Beldsoe.

I don't know. I can tell you that if Orton plays the next two like the one he did Sunday it would appear that he should be the starter. That's if they name Romeo the head coach. If someone else's named the head coach there's no telling.

Yep.

When has Pioli demonstrated that with the Chiefs? A key ingredient to that combo is not in KC.

On what evidence do you base the opinion in bold?

May your foreseeing come true.