Tebow: The Final Numbers
 

1729 passing yards (31st in NFL)
46.5 % completion percentage (by far the worst in the NFL)
6.4 yards per attempt (26th in NFL)
123.5 passing yards per game (worst in NFL, obviously)
12 passing touchdowns (27th in NFL)
72.9 QB rating (27th in NFL)

He is 26th in the NFL in his most prolific passing category. So awesome.

Crucify him on the tree of woe.

Hes in the playoffs.

He played better than Orton and Cassel this year...

LOL at people still defending him.

:bang::bang::bang:

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That's quite an accomplishment in this division, huh?

6 for 22 1 int 60 yards~

46.5% is the lowest completion percentage for an NFL QB with 11+ starts since 1963 (Ed Brown)

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...=pass_cmp_perc

Doesn't matter,they're going to get absolutely destroyed and raped.

Orton was the better QB yesterday, not by much, but still. He's an option QB in the NFL. It'll never work.

Tebow and Cassel are twins.

Comparable to Vince Young's "OROY" year...

but Vince "won" games, so he was great, and so is Tebow...

You missed some of his numbers. Try again

His combined total against us this year was 8 of 30 for 129 yards 1 TD and 1 INT.

The worst I have ever seen.

And I had to sit through the likes of Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard and now Tyler Palko.

He also took over a 1-4 team and finished 7-4 with a trip to the playoffs. Not to shabby for a kid that was drafted as 3 year project and had no off-season training. That's actually badass in a lotta ways.

Next year is where the rubber meets the road. He's a very conservative QB and needs to work on a number of things.

The team turned around for the positive when he became the starter... it was ugly more than it was pretty and they limped into the division title. We'll see how it goes this weekend when the Steelers come to Denver. I expect a loss, but I'm not betting against them at this point. They've played poorly for a month now, we'll see if they're fall back to earth was the awakening they needed.

I didn't like the play calling yesterday ... it was as if they wanted to play uber conservative and rely on SD winning to get them into the playoffs. I hated watching the game yesterday, it was by far the worst of any of the games I saw this season.

Steelers have the #1 defense in the NFL... they're beat up a bit on offense. Again, I'm fully expecting a loss... but, I'm hoping for a good game. We'll see. My expectations are low, they took some baby steps forward this season and watching them in the wildcard round is something I didn't expect. So, I'm just going to enjoy it and let the chips fall as they may.

If Tebow is going to improve, they need to add some short yardage weapons... a nice pass catching RB, solid pass catching TE... hell, I'd like to see Hillis come back to Denver. I think he would be a nice addition to this style of offense with what he can do running, blocking and catching. The big weapon they miss is a strong TE target...

With the way McGahee ran this year, you probably would have won 10 or 11 games with anybody even remotely competent behind center. Hell, as well as your defense has played, you might have been able to push for a bye.

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He wasn't able to run like that until Tebow came in and produced another running possibility for the defense to key on.

Please, enlighten me. What did I miss?

I think they need a RB, WR, and maybe MLB. I think they'll draft BPA up and down the board though.

This guy is an alternate for the Pro Bowl. Incredible. He's one of the least efficient QBs in the game, and people actually voted for this guy to go to Hawaii.

Matt Cassel was 10-5 last year. Come up with a better argument.

Three jump out...his win-loss record as a starter, his total amount of TD's, and I would add his 4th quarter comebacks.

I don't need any other argument. That's really the only stat that matters.


Priest Holes once gained over 300 total yards in a game. Which was awesome. But it didn't mean shit because the Chiefs lost that day.

Wins and losses are team statistics, dummy. I am talking about individual QB statistics.

As it relates to what? Running your mouth? No, the only point in talking about stats is how they relate to winning. Otherwise...who gives a shit?

Well, in the first 5 games of the year... none of that was happening. Did it take that long for players and the system (new coaches) to gel? Possibly. It's also possible that despite his lack of flashy passing stats - the team rallied around the change and his leadership, and the offense totally changed. Prior to the last 3 games, they just weren't turning the ball over. They're averaging 100 yards more per game after the change and this helps out all aspects of the team game. The Broncos won because of and in spite of Tebow at times. They were 7-4 after the change... The didn't sniff that type of production with Orton. I think Orton can be a good QB in a good system, but the change was made and ... they're the division champs. And, as ugly as that may be... they're in the hunt.

I'd like for them to focus again on defense in the draft... focus on offensive additions through FA. Royal is likely gone and I could see him having huge production with a team like the Saints. I'd take him back though for the right price. Thomas and Decker are good, but they do need another threat.

Ball and Johnson are ok depth at RB, but they need someone like a Hillis or a Tolbert to pair up with McGahee. Go get a veteran RB that has some years left and can catch - hell, get two. The TE threat though, that is a huge "must have" for me... they need a big target with great hands to take those dump off passes over the middle when things need a quick bail out.

The defense has some issues and the secondary is old... may be time to move Champ to S and then fill in youth at CB. Focus on DEF in the draft early, take a BPA on offense if he's there.

Take away that one pass to Decker and it is:

7 of 30 for 73 yards 0TD and 1 INT - Passer Rating of 25.69

Still pisses me off that one pass -- like 4-5 other plays -- kept us out of the post-season despite of all the crap this team survived.

W/L record is one of the worst measurables for a QB. I used to complain incessantly when the media would cite Steve Bono's W/L record as some kind of support for him being good. Unless you sustain a good W/L record over the course of a few years, it doesn't mean dick. Not to mention that 7-4 is hardly setting the world on fire.

I just don't see how anyone can look at this guy and think QBOTF. If he were on the Chiefs, he would be crucified (nopun). See: Matt Cassel.

If a pitcher has 15 wins with a 4.56 ERA, he must be good, right?

Ed Brown had a glass eye too.

Elway thought he would play him to please the fans & please himself with a top 5 pick for a QB
I wonder how this rates on the GM fail scale

I don't know ... Xanders is the GM. Elway is a VP of Football Operations.

I believe their goals are to put their team in a position to win more games than they lose, win the division, win in the playoffs and ultimately win a Super Bowl.

They finished 8-8 (7-4 after the QB change).. won the division and host the Steelers in the wildcard round. Their decisions and fate played out well for them. Very few people expected them to be here prior to week 1 and nobody imagined it was possible after the 1-4 start and change to Tebow.

The other job is to make sure the franchise is set up well to sustain positive momentum and improve each year. That remains to be seen, but after 1 year of Elway/Xanders/Fox ... it was a mix of highs and lows, culminating in an odd finish to 8-8 with a division title.

The goal of team management is not to play for a draft position with 11 games left in a season. It's not to try and lose to make sure they don't fall outside the reach of being able to draft a potential QBotF or any other player.

They're doing their jobs... it's not always pretty. I think they are as mixed on what is happening as most of the fans. Yes, it's great that they turned 1-4 around and are sitting here with at least one game still to play. We'll see how it goes.

I think that if you asked every member of the team - they would have mixed feelings on how they've played, but I will bet that 100% of them are excited to be here right now... in the playoffs.

He also turned around a team which was ranked dead last in the NFL in rushing to #1 almost instantly. And took a team who was a contender for the Luck sweepstakes to the the playoffs.

FYP.

I sincerely hope Tebow is the Denver starter the next ten years. Sincerely.

Rushing stats for a running QB, for starters. He still sucks, but you seemingly intentionally eliminated a strength of his. 660 yards rushing for a 5.4 YPA and 6 TDs.

All I know is that I sincerely hope that the fans continue to pressure Elway and company to keep Tebow around for years to come. The longer that experiment continues, the better for us.

He didn't take them anywhere. They backed in.

Tebow has tricked the Bronco fans into believing...
Broncos are now ****ed.

So was Cassel last year, what's your point?

Because Fox sat a broke dick Moreno and gave the ball to McGahee and the fullback Tebow.

Why not credit a defense that kept Denver in games and got pick 6's. Not to mention Prater being money from 20-40 yards and exceptional at 50+.

So you're stuck with Tebow over Luck? Bronco fans are clearly winners in that deal.

Do you really feel like its Tebow that made the difference? Or was it perhaps the emergence of Miller? Hell, some of those games the defense put nearly as many points on the board as the offense.

Tebow is a Bust.

Did anyone really think that a team running the Wildcat on every single down was going to work for very long?

The kid is a total joke. Anyone who defends this guy is kidding themselves. He throws ducks and is cannot read a defense to save his ass. When under pressure is runs wildly and tosses it up for grabs. If he keeps running he will have a short stay in the NFL. He is the worst QB I have ever watched including Russell. Heck Russell had great touch on his passes compared to this guy~

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Elway euthanizes a horse every time Tebow drops back. He has to.

Poor John Elway
 

Poor John Elway. Many fans in Colorado will want to crucify him if he doesn't "believe" in Tebow.

Those fans will have drubbing realization when they realize a guy with otherwise lousy numbers but who has had a few comebacks is not who an NFL exec interested in keeping his job will build a franchise around.

Regrettably (because I am Christian), I am not looking forward to the attitudes and snarky talk shows around here when they figure it out, and ride Tim out of town. Should be ugly, but because I'm a Chiefs fan living in Colorado, I'll enjoy it at some level.

My biggest fear at this point is Denver sells high on Tebow and trades him to someone like Jacksonville for a first day draft pick and a more traditional QB project like Blaine Gabbert. Ideally, they will stick with the Timmy experiment for years to come.

Nobody is giving a 1st rounder for this kid. If he would have gotten injured during the love fest he may have pulled a 3rd rounder. Everyone has seen enough of him now to take a pass unless Denver offers him up for a 5th round pick~

he's a fullback trying to play QB...as has been obvious to everyone not named McDaniels

I worry about that as well, but the past three weeks have likely eliminated the possibility of that unless they manage to somehow get past the Steelers. I also think that they're still under a lot of PR pressure to keep him and make it work for at least one more season.

6-22 and 46 percent completion for the year is really all that needs to be said. The guy is horrible at winging the football. Least accurate QB I've EVER seen.

Chew on this...Fatmarcus was a more accurate QB ROFL

Gruden's first acquisition as coach. "The guy is just a winner, Jaws."

Ignorance abound in this thread.

-We don't run the wild cat
-Tebow can pass accurately, but his whole passing game needs work
-He can read defenses. He just needs more NFL experience and better anticipation.

Besides...he can learn all that stuff. You act as though he is what he always will be. That's not how human beings work. Especially when they are young.

he's a joke

he can't throw a ball to save baby jesus' life

i hope you sign him to a lifetime contract

Garcia you are a good guy and I like you. That said we will have to agree to disagree. IMO he is never going to improve to even average. Time will tell~

Yeah...no.

LMAO

I sure hope Elway and the boys feel the same way and keep him around for years to come.

yep, it would sure make life a lot easier for Chief fans.:thumb:

Yep better for you. That is why your season is over and Tebow is in the playoffs.

C'mon now. You know I don't play your games.

Didn't you guys give us the QB that we beat you with at your house?

You honestly think the Tebows stand a chance against Pittsburgh? Have fun getting humiliated. Your QB is a fraud.

It'll sting next week when your team is right there in it, it'll seem like you're so close, maybe only down by 7, but you just can't move the ball. If only Tebow could make a big play. He only needs one...he only needs one. It's late in the game, time for Tebow magic, it's his time to shine, 1st down, 2nd down...just one big play, it's coming it's got to...3rd down, 4th down.... but you're right the Broncos are in the playoffs.

Dude, you backed your way into the playoffs. I'm going to love watching the game next weekend. Pit is going to beat you like a read headed step child, without mercy.

The only difference between the Donks and the Chiefs is, your players will only have to wait one extra week, to join ours on the couch and you will have crap draft picks.

Seriously, may Tebow be there for the next 10 years.

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Yes, I really enjoy making the playoffs and then getting pounded. We as Chiefs fans saw that last year. Enjoy the excitement it brings, dumbass.

He's not even close to Orton, you reerun.

Yeah Orton beat us. LMAO

He didn't do a damn thing all day. For some reason we couldn't stop McCluster for about 5 or 6 plays and that led to your only points.

Yesterday wasn't the first time that Orton helped the Chiefs beat Denver, but at least this time he was wearing a Chiefs' jersey.

He was 6-6 to Bowe for 93 yards while being covered by Champ All Universe Bailey in the first half. Don't say he didn't do a "damn thing".

That equals Tebags completions to all Denver recievers for the whole game.

Personally, I'm not convinced that he should be the quarterback of next week.

Line Derrick Johnson up at receiver and yesterday's game isn't close.

I actually wonder if Fox would consider putting in Quinn next week if Tebow looks like crap again. I don't think he could get away with it from the BEGINNING of the game, but if the score's somewhat close and Tebow has been completely neutralized, you know he'd have to at least think about it.

we could ship Cassel to Denver for this weekend.

i know there's no trades allowed but if he's coming for free maybe Goodell would allow it. :drool:

Just for the weekend?

IMO, if the Broncos get behind by two scores early, and the response from the Broncos offense is three three-and-outs, it's Quinn time.

If that happens (regardless of the result), I might be driven to listen to Denver talk radio just to laugh at all the whining. :)