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4th and Long 01-03-2012 04:17 PM

Apocalypse not now: 2012
 
Apocalypse not now: 2012 doomsday predictions debunked by NASA

On Dec. 21, 2012, many doomsday believers fear the apocalypse — anything from a rogue planet smashing into us to our world spinning end over end. However, the world should expect nothing more next year than the winter solstice, the longest night of the year, NASA says.

Many people point to the end of the Mayan Long Count calendar on Dec. 21, 2012 as evidence of the coming apocalypse, but astronomers have been quick to stress that there is nothing to be concerned about.

According to the ancient Mayan calendar, next year's winter solstice marks the end of a 144,000-day cycle. This cycle, which begins at the mythical Maya creation date, has already been repeated 12 times. The 13th will end in 2012, capping a full 5,200-year Mayan cycle of creation.

This date has long been shrouded in mystery, with many claiming that it will bring destruction to our planet. [End of the World? Top Doomsday Fears]

Rogue planet Nibiru?
One fear is that a rogue planet that has been dubbed "Nibiru" or "Planet X" is supposedly aimed at Earth. Self-proclaimed Nibiru expert Nancy Lieder, who says she is in contact with the aliens from Zeta Reticuli, first said Nibiru would cause widespread disaster in May 2003, only to change it to Dec. 21, 2012.

There is, however, no evidence that Nibiru is real.

"Nibiru is ridiculous because it doesn't exist — it never existed as anything other than a figment of the imagination by pseudo-scientists who don't seem bothered by a complete lack of evidence," astronomer Don Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near-Earth Object program office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., told SPACE.com.

There is no basis for the claim that it might be lurking behind the sun, as it could not have hidden from observation until now, Yeomans said. If such a planet was headed toward Earth by Dec. 21, 2012, it would already be visible to the naked eye.

Cosmic alignments?
There are also concerns that planets or stars might line up in ways that will transform Earth. For instance, some theorists claim that from our point of view, the sun will cross in front of the plane of our galaxy on Dec. 21. However, the sun already does this twice a year, Yeomans said.

In fact, the sun will eventually cross the plane of our galaxy. However, the sun is about 67 light-years from the galactic plane, so it should take several million years to do so, Yeomans said. Even then, when our solar system finally does cross the plane, nothing special will occur, he added. [10 Failed Doomsday Predictions]

Some also claim that gravitational effects from planets lining up with each other will somehow affect Earth. However, there is no planetary alignment due on Dec. 21, 2012, "and if there were, it wouldn't cause any problems," Yeomans said.

The only bodies that have any significant gravitational impact on Earth are the moon and the sun, effects we see as the tides. Tidal effects from other bodies in our solar system are negligible at best, and in any case, we have experienced them for millions of years without notice.

Solar storms?
Solar storms — deluges of energetic particles from the sun — do happen, usually waxing and waning in cycles that last roughly 11 years. When these charged particles collide with Earth, they can trigger auroras and damage satellites and power lines, although not really inflicting any lasting harm, Yeomans said.

There are accounts of a solar "super-storm" slamming into Earth in 1859. Although that caused relatively little damage back then, there are concerns that such a storm might cause far more harm now that our world is more dependent on electronics.

Yet, there is no evidence that such a super-storm will happen on Dec. 21 of next year, Yeomans said.

Flip-flopping Earth?
There is some alarm that 2012 could see the flipping of Earth's poles — either the planet's geographical poles, which mark the Earth's axis of rotation, or its magnetic poles, which our compasses point toward.

But, there is no reason to fear such an occurrence, scientists said, because the moon stabilizes our planet's spin. The planet's magnetic poles do flip, but over periods of about 500,000 years, and not suddenly, "but over thousands of years," with no evidence of a flip on Dec. 21, 2012, Yeomans said.

Even if the planet's magnetic poles do flip, no real problems would occur, other than the inconvenience of us having to change our compasses from north to south, he added.

Cosmic impacts?
The Earth is always vulnerable to impacts by comets and asteroids, but giant impacts are rare, with the last major collision taking place 65 million years ago, ending the Age of Dinosaurs.

Still, astronomers do monitor the sky for near-Earth objects.

"There are no known near-Earth objects in 2012 that present a credible risk to Earth," Yeomans said. "None, zero, zip, nada."

But despite evidence to the contrary, doomsdays theorists have garnered attention, and similar prophecies will continue to proliferate unless scientists become more involved in bringing truth to these outlandish claims, Yeomans said.

Mounting hysteria regarding these unfounded doomsday predictions "will improve only if scientists get more engaged in debunking pseudoscience," he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45834574...cience-space/#

teedubya 01-03-2012 04:19 PM

It's not the end of the world... never has been. It's been the end of a 25,800 cycle of time... the end of one complete cycle of the Earth's precession.

As others have stated... it's like December 31st going into Jan 1st... a new cycle will begin.

It's cool that we get to be here for the end of this huge cycle, though. My concern is that this year will be full of more man-made craziness. Economic shittiness... potential WW3 with Iran... etc.

We sure didn't get off to a good foot with the NDAA bill being signed. But, I digress.

Fish 01-03-2012 04:20 PM

What about Ligers and hybrid sharks?

gblowfish 01-03-2012 04:22 PM

I have a feeling that as long as I have a mortgage payment to be made, the world will not end. I think we're all safe for a few more years.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-03-2012 04:22 PM

I announced on the big show today that "if anyone has ever asked you what you'd do if you knew you had only one more year to live... now is the time to give that some real thought."

Co-host facepalmed. I thought it was important stuff.

4th and Long 01-03-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8259870)
What about Ligers and hybrid sharks?

What about inbreds like teedubya?

whoman69 01-03-2012 04:26 PM

If the Chiefs are poised to make a Super Bowl run, we'll know the Earth is about to end.

HemiEd 01-03-2012 04:45 PM

Thanks for posting this 4th, hopefully the Mrs. will quit trying to spend everything before the end of the year now. :D

Psyko Tek 01-03-2012 05:00 PM

it's gonna end
I was on a mayan pyramid a year before the day

it was all revealed to me

send check or money order, paypal will work
and I can tell you how to be saved

BigMeatballDave 01-03-2012 05:09 PM

If Scott pulls off a blockbuster deal to acquire Luck, then we know our time is up soon...

007 01-03-2012 05:11 PM

That is the day the water turns to antifreeze and the world runs into a flaming aids tree.

loochy 01-03-2012 05:17 PM

A year and a half ago I went to Mexico. We were touring the Chacchoben ruins and our tour guide, a Mayan descendent, asked if we had any questions. I asked about this whole 2012 end of the Mayan calendar thing. He did say it was the end of a cycle, but the end of the cycle didn't mean anything and didn't indicate any sort of change.

Also, I don't understand why people think that just because the MAYAN calendar ends, that means the world ends. WTF? Since when do the Mayans know everything? If they knew so much, then maybe they should have known how to keep their society from disappearing...

Rain Man 01-03-2012 05:22 PM

They're just trying to keep us from panicking so we'll keep producing tax dollars to fund their giant escape ship.

Iowanian 01-03-2012 05:31 PM

I'm not worried for 3 reasons

1. I'm sane and OK with my maker if it happened.
2. I'm prepared for rough times with skillz n stuff
3. Marty McFly is scheduled to appear in 2015 according to the movie.

Pants 01-03-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 8260011)
Also, I don't understand why people think that just because the MAYAN calendar ends, that means the world ends. WTF? Since when do the Mayans know everything? If they knew so much, then maybe they should have known how to keep their society from disappearing...

Where do you think the Mayan's disappeared to? EXACTLY.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...aliens-guy.png

RustShack 01-03-2012 05:54 PM

I did some research on this once.. don't really remember all the details as it was awhile ago... but I remember reading something along the lines of we are just entering the sixth apocalypse. Supposably there was some type of natural disaster between each cycle, but obviously none earth ending. Also I recall something about advances in beings or something.. maybe related to evolution and how we used to be Apes?


But I'm in the boat of nothings happening.

007 01-03-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8260044)
I'm not worried for 3 reasons

1. I'm sane and OK with my maker if it happened.
2. I'm prepared for rough times with skillz n stuff
3. Marty McFly is scheduled to appear in 2015 according to the movie.

Yeah, but that happened over 26 years ago.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-03-2012 08:34 PM

This is a fabrication, why do you think there are so many Gold buying businesses now. The Annunaki will be here soon to collect the gold from you ****ing reeruns and you'll soon find yourself building somemore of those wortheless friggin pyramids.

Epic Fail 007 01-03-2012 08:46 PM

Its a hoax and thats a fact.NASA even said so .People like Von helton on blog tv fuel this shit. I truely cannot believe how stupid people are in the world today to believe this crap.It pisses me off .Its sad really to see how stupid society as a whole in this generation is.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-03-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8260634)
Its a hoax and thats a fact.NASA even said so .People like Von helton on blog tv fuel this shit. I truely cannot believe how stupid people are in the world today to believe this crap.It pisses me off .Its sad really to see how stupid society as a whole in this generation is.

Hey , I jerk off Boars for a living and you're calling me stupid !

007 01-03-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8260634)
Its a hoax and thats a fact.NASA even said so .People like Von helton on blog tv fuel this shit. I truely cannot believe how stupid people are in the world today to believe this crap.It pisses me off .Its sad really to see how stupid society as a whole in this generation is.

Chill. This thread is meant for humor.

Epic Fail 007 01-03-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8260675)
Chill. This thread is meant for humor.

Dude I get that lol .But there are truely whack job groups out there that believe this word for word.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-03-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8260729)
Dude I get that lol .But there are truely whack job groups out there that believe this word for word.

You're just dumb, Nibiru is almost here, why do you think Obama's President !

LiveSteam 01-03-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8260729)
Dude there are truely whack job groups out there .

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO :thumb:

Epic Fail 007 01-03-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8260672)
Hey , I jerk off Boars for a living and you're calling me stupid !

Hey if that gets you off ,have at it ,lol

loochy 01-03-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8260729)
Dude I get that lol .But there are truely whack job groups out there that believe this word for word.

There are actually quite a few of them here on Chiefs Planet. Have you been over in the DC forum? There are quite a few over there, particularly in the 9-11 conspiracy threads.

Pitt Gorilla 01-03-2012 09:30 PM

The Mayan calendar has "ended" many, many times.

Simplicity 01-03-2012 09:32 PM

I blame Bill Nye The Science Guy.


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