Now Terrell Suggs taking shots at Tebow and God
 

I want to preface this by saying that I'm not religious at all even though I was raised Catholic. Haven't seen the inside of a church in many years and don't follow or practice religion. Actually somewhat turned off by it but that's a story for another day.

The thing that is really disturbing to me is why is everyone jumping all over God and Tim Tebow? He isn't the first athlete to invoke or thank God, many players do. He doesn't carry a bible into the huddle or try to convert anyone. He just has a strong belief in his faith just like many other Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Protestants, Baptists, and Hindu worshipping people yet every week someone who has no relation to the game or the Bronco's comes out with what I believe to be anti-Christian or anti-religion views.

How would he be treated if he was a Muslim or Jewish? I don't think the media or other people would say jack squat. I don't like the double standard...

Yeah, he sucks as a QB but let's use that to judge his performance, not his religion.

Am I wrong or is the bashing of Tebow for his religious views justified or fair?

:hmmm:

Pretty sure Tebow gets bashed because he's a shitty player.

If the media would shut the **** up about him, the hatred would stop. It has nothing to do with his religion. It has everything to do with the constant media coverage. When the media is constantly sucking you off, public backlash is inevitable. The fact that he sucks as a QB is the shit icing on the shit cake.

Terrell Suggs, I will suck you off.

Agreed.

I get why people take shots at him but it's not like he's the first player in the NFL to garner insane coverage...to me, a lot of the shit coming from the players towards him is ridiculous and I'm not a Tebow guy at all.

I don't see players taking shot after shot at Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Manning, Vick, Romo, etc.

WTF?????

:eek:

What does this have to do with Terrell Suggs?

This.

What did he say?

At least Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Vick, and Romo have some talent to justify the coverage. Tebow is a glorified FB that occasionally throws an accurate ball.

In the middle of a pentagram.

Dripping hot devilish wax on his pecs

Uhhhh, those other guys are actually pretty damn good players, not some dweeb being covered like he's doing what Newton is doing this year.

This is 100% accurate.

LOL agreed...I'm not saying Tebow is great or anything, he sucks...I'm just saying the bashing of Tebow for his religion or whatever is almost as old as the coverage Tebow gets.

He is a polarizing figure like Muhammad Ali.

You've been boring for quite a while.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/b...,5571386.story

Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs made his triumphant return to ESPN’s “First Take” on Tuesday. During his last appearance before the Ravens beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh, he battled with talking head Skip Bayless about Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco. Two months later, Suggs, Flacco and the Ravens are the AFC’s No. 2 seed.

Suggs briefly talked about the team’s 12-4 regular season (“we’re still sitting pretty”), the Week 15 loss to San Diego Chargers (“it was a reality check”) and winning the Lombardi Trophy (“we’ve still got work to do”). But the highlight was Suggs calling out Bayless for his unwavering support of Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.

“Congratulations to you and your boy, you and your man crush,” Suggs remarked out of nowhere. “We know you’ve got a little man crush with your boy out there in Denver. It’s alright. Congratulations. Y’all made it.”

An incredulous Bayless -- really, though, is there another kind of Bayless? -- asked Suggs for his take on Tebow.

“He’s alright. He’s alright. Let’s be honest, Skip, I can put up the numbers he was [putting up],” he said. “It’s all about numbers, baby. Give me a shot. Let’s see what we can do, create my own offense and hopefully my kicker can nail a 62-yarder to bail me out a few times, Jesus shows up. … That boy be praying on the sidelines, boy. I don’t feel comfortable [if] I’ve got to pray every fourth quarter like, ‘Oh my God, please come save me again.’”

Bayless then asked Suggs if he would rather have Flacco or Tebow, who is 7-4 as a starter in 2011, as his QB.

“Are you kidding me? Why don’t you like my quarterback, Skip? Is it his mustache? Is it his eyebrows? Is it because Tim Tebow is prettier?” Suggs said. “I understand you’ve got your man crush but you can’t force that on the rest of us. We, here in Baltimore, we’ve got a quarterback that fits our personality. … I love the kid. He plays football. He’s my quarterback. I stand by him. And I love him on the sidelines with the ice in his veins.”
Then Suggs summed up Bayless well with this: “My daughter can do your job. My daughter is four years old.”

Exactly. He's the white, Christian, non-boxing, non-shit talking version of Muhammad Ali, only 35 years later.

Tebow would have won last Sunday, but Jesus made him fumble.

Suggs going HAM on Skipper is hilarious...

Suggs is on this bandwagon...take this TEBOW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQorzOS-F6w

Suggs was being silly and talking trash we need more of that, it is supposed to be entertainment.

So where did he bash Tebow for his religious beliefs?

Except Ali had massive mojo and talent!

Beats me. The Tebow fanatics always bring up religion bashing when someone questions the deity that is Tebow.

[QUOTE=scho63;8259948]Except Ali had massive mojo and talent![/QUOTEY

You don't win a couple national titles and Heisman without talent and to say Tebow doesn't have mojo, it is undeniable that he makes people around him better.

[QUOTE=Demonpenz;8259953]You have a valid point.

:thumb:

[QUOTE=scho63;8259956][QUOTE=Demonpnz;8259953]

You have a valid point.

:thummb:[/QUTE]

no problem.!

I know this is opening myself up to bashing but oh well it's just the internet.

I like Tebow. He's a crappy QB yes but I like who he is and it's not even about being an outspoken christian... I'm a christian too I just go about it differently than him. But more power to him if he's honestly moved to wear his faith on his sleeve like he does. So many people do the popular thing or avoid critisim at all costs that I find it refreshing for Tebow to be who is he no matter how many people hate on him for it.

I don't like or root for the Broncos but if they win I chuckle and think Go Tebow. I mostly enjoy laughing at the haters I suppose. It's stupid that his faith is so polarizing or even important to anyone but him.

But do you think it's because he is Catholic as opposed to another religion?

Actions beget equal and opposite reactions.

I would say that matters very very little.

No I think it's because he openly talks about God and prays on the side line and doesn't apologize for who he is. That makes a lot of people uncomfortable and in a way that's the point of doing the things Tebow does... mostly though I think it's just what he feels and who he is.

ROFLROFL

Personally speaking, I have nothing against Tebow the person. I have nothing against Tebow's religion. I am just sick and tired of the media's constant coverage. I am also sick and tired of Skip Bayless and Michelle Beadle aghast that someone could have something negative to say about the golden god that is Tim Tebow. When the Tebow fanatics pull out the "you hate his religion" card, that is when I start to poke fun at his religion just to spite them.

I am pretty sure Moses berated the Jews for worshiping a golden Tebow statue, instead of a calf. I think that was mistranslation in the text.

Id say that Suggs was 100% correct in what he said.
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Tom Brady, Brett Favre and on and on and on. Sports media is reeruned (no offense to the mentally challenged). They latch onto a story and can't let it go whether it matters or not. Tebow is just their latest headline. I don't hold that against Tebow but I do find it to be a continueing commentary about the lameness of the popular sports media.

Exactly. The backlash from the Tebow fanatics for what Suggs said angers me. People, he is not God. It is okay to say that he is a shitty QB.

That's it? Pretty damn tame.

The Baltimore Ravens have a playoff bye this week. Don't think that means Terrell Suggs' mouth will be taking it easy.

The linebacker took a mostly unprovoked shot at Tim Tebow during a Tuesday appearance on ESPN's "First Take."

"With all due respect we don't need God on our sidelines," Suggs said. "Once again God had to save Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos. He couldn't even give them two drives? Seven to three? [Referring to the score Denver lost by on Sunday.]"

When it is all said and done he is a joke and should not be mentioned as far as rookie QBs this year as there are couple that have shown they are very talented. He brings this on his self with wanting to buy air time for a ad showing his beliefs during the Superbowl. He proudly champions his beliefs and people who do not share them will take shots at him. I will be more than happy when this clown is no longer front page news.

see my youtube vid earlier below...NOT tame

At least Brady and Favre actually played professional QB. Whatever the **** Tebow is doing is not playing professional QB. It is akin to a shitty refrigerator crayon drawing being heralded as the greatest piece of art in human history.

Sorry. Tame.

Dude, I used to be an evangelical atheist. No one's getting nailed to a cross, so what's the big deal? Words? Pshaw.

I agree with that. I imagine the media love has to do with his success in college... carrying over to him pulling games out of his ass this year. He was the golden boy at Florida... now look at him win as a starter in the NFL even though his numbers say he's terrible.

Again... I blame the media for making him into a polarizing figure... not Tebow himself. He is who he's always been but now the stage is bigger and ESPN and company need to have a story to tell.

JMO.

I agree. It is just offends me as a football fan that shitty football is being celebrated in this fashion.

Media loves to build a guy up,
but they relish in tearing him back down

Understood and agreed.

I agree 100% ... he's not asking the cameras to follow him on the sideline to focus on him doing what he has always done. There's nothing wrong with what he does, what he believes or how he does things. He could be Stevie Johnson and the type of guys that are "me me me" screw the team aspect of this game.

Players that get caught up in this stuff with remarks about religion... it's stupid. Why is a Ravens' player saying anything about a Denver player at this point?

Focus on your bye week...

The shitty football is being questioned week after week, especially in Denver. The only thing that isn't being questioned is the good feeling after the W, no matter how ugly the performance.

Sigh. I'm Christian and I see nothing wrong with what Suggs said. Suggs was criticizing Tebow for being a shitty QB.

Yes.

Like I said before I like and respect who Tebow is as a person because he stands up for what he believes in in the face of hatred for it. I don't root for Denver because I'm a KC fan but I can separate the two.

Your defense should be the unquestioned heroes for your late season run, not some FB that is pretending to play professional QB.

The defense, the kicker, and dumb luck are getting every bit of the credit they deserve.

We're also crediting the shitty Chiefs, the shitty Raiders, and the shitty Chargers.

That is exactly right!

Now that's just hateful. :mad:

I completely disagree with your characterization of how the different religions are treated around here and meet your Christian victim card with the rolling of my eyes.

You shouldn't credit the Chiefs shittiness, that is something that can be guaranteed. I think I was a serial killer in a past life to reborn as fan of this cursed franchise. I blame my parents.

All religious people have 1 thing in common. They all hold up their victim card and think they're being persecuted due to their faith.

Can we please classify this so-called Tebowmania as another religion? "Thou shall not criticize Tebow for any reason" is the first and only commandment.

I think it is just the natural order of things.

I am a big Mizzou fan...I talk about them all the time. If I spend the week leading up to a big game talking on and on about how Missouri is going to beat the shit out of them and they lose then mad shit talking is going to rain on me from every angle.

If I am a Mizzou fan that just sits and reads and doesn't talk about them nary a negative word will be thrown in my direction.

There is equal and oppisite reaction.

Tebow has thrown himself out there as this uber Christian making the focus at nearly every turn...and you know what? That is ok. But don't cry foul when it comes back the other way.

...except for the atheists... they never do that.

The funny thing is that everyone is having this 'sports/religion' debate without Tebow really doing anything to inspire it... sure his actions are focused on, but he's not holding press conferences held specifically on the topic and he's certainly not whining about what people say.

Yes, he was part of a SB ad last year about pro life and he prays on the sideline... big deal. Many other players do things that many don't agree with as well and while they are beaten down at times in the media, it's often left at that.

You don't hear players facing the Jets say "We should win the game as long as Plax doesn't shoot us all in the ass". There are all sorts of things that are just bypassed or over-looked, but man... you get a guy with a serious religious conviction out there and look out...

Tim isn't out there saying a lot about his faith unprovoked - people ask and he answers. Guys like Suggs should just focus on his task at hand.

The media went over the top with Tebow coverage... nothing we can do about it and he didn't ask for it. So, hate him - love him - don't get caught up in it... it's in your hands.

I just get tired of hearing people whine about it... kick him in the groin for his performance all you like.

Has Tebow cried foul himself? I've never heard it if he has but I may not know the complete story.

No, I didn't mean him personally but def. the Trevo's and others who feel the need to be offended on his behalf.

I don't know about the Suggs deal, but typically he just shrugs off comments like this... it's pointless to get into a battle over what people say and I'm sure that's how he views it.

Gotcha... thanks.

I honestly didn't feel the need to explain why I am always offended by religious bashing. There's only a few who understand what I'm trying to say anyways.

lol. *shrug*

ok.

You know what faith has always gotten easy street on this board?

The Muslim faith. LMAO

If Tebow's righteousness was going to questioned by a respected, thoughtful, eloquent speaker who also happens to be NFL player, fine.

Too bad it came from Terrel Suggs.

I hate agreeing with stinkin donks fans.

There was nothing wrong with what Suggs said. He was mocking Skip Bayless for slobbering all over Tebow. He also stated that he could do just as well as Tebow while pretending to be an NFL QB. This nothing to do with ****ing religion.

We need a Buddhist uprising in this country. In a big way.

Mocking is for people than aren't intelligent enough for an original thought.

Suggs is effing moron who sacks QBs, nothing more. He couldn't show up for classes at ASU but he could sure find Happy Hour with all the SoCal coeds.

It doesn't change the fact that he's right.

Tebow is white so it game on.

Zach, unholy satanic rite is at 9 pm sharp this week. Meet me in the woods. Wear your best leathers.