Chiefs & Pats Ask to Talk W/McDaniels
 

Apparently the Chiefs and Patriots asked the Rams permission to talk to McDaniels according to Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post Dispatch.

Let the games begin.

Bidding war.

Sweet.
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Report: Patriots, Chiefs Seek Permission to Speak with Josh McDaniels


Found 6 hours ago on Pro Football Zone:

PLAYERS: Josh Mcdaniels, Romeo Crennel
TEAMS: New England Patriots, Kansas City Chiefs, Penn State Nittany Lions




According to Bryan Burwell of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, both the New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs have requested permission from the Rams to speak with offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. With the reports out now that Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien is likely headed to Penn State, they’ll need a replacement and McDaniels is of course familiar with the way the Pats run things from when he was there just a few years ago. When it comes to the Chiefs, if they end up promoting interim head coach Romeo Crennel to become their new head coach, McDaniels would be a good fit since they worked together in New England. At this point there’s been no indication if the Rams have actually granted either team permission to speak with McDaniels. Right now, McDaniels will just have to wait around to see who becomes the Rams next head coach, because that will likely decide his destiny in St. Louis


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So goddamn tired of this team revolving around the ****ing Patriots...

So....goddamn.......tired....

Print 'em

If the Patriots are wanting to talk to why he come here? I don't want him here.

Everybody's overreacting. We just want to ask him, "Tebow, really?"

FYP

God damn, this is like a giant game of red-rover at the special olympics.

Red-rover. Red-rover, send McDoucher right over.
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I'm guessing the head coach in waiting wink wink agreement

The Patriots offense has completely shifted away from McDaniels style of offense. I heard they want to promote Ferentz's son to OC and that would make a ton of sense considering the work he's done with Gronk and Hernandez.

For ****s sake. This just ruined my day.

Not really. Offenses are constantly evolving to take advantage of the players that it has. In the early 2000s, without elite WRs and a QB who was very accurate but didn't have a great deep touch, the offense was largely screens, shorter passes and power running (Antowain Smith / Corey Dillon). As the WRs got better (Moss/Welker), they became the focus of the offense. Now with elite TEs, the seams have become more important.

But fundamentally (conceptually) it's the same offense. It's not like the Pats are running the West Coast offense or whatever. McDaniels is perfectly familiar with the entire system and can easily update himself on how the offense has evolved since then.

Imagine the Rams want a pick for him, and may likely squeeze a 5th rounder or something out of someone.

If the Chiefs get him as OC, it would seem to be very likely that is with RAC as HC. Hard to believe Pioli would get the OC before settling on the HC.

Fired in Denver, 31st ranked offense in St Louis. Why not bring him in for a look? (note sarcasm)

F u Scott Pioli. Do you job. Hire the best candidates available. Not just your buddies.

Did Randy Moss find the fountain of youth?

Whatever.

I don't care anymore.

Just get rid of Cassel.

I hope they realize that an elite QB is needed.

It starts......... :shake:

This move means they're committing to Cassel. If it happens, it'll just drive me to be pretty apathetic about the Chiefs until those clowns are gone.

The Bad Guy said in another post that he doesn't buy into the McDaniels = Cassel BS. I'd like to hear him elaborate on this.

From one of his posts a few days ago...

I don't buy into it because Clark Hunt doesn't believe in Cassel the same way Pioli does according to the guy I talk to that's given me solid info in the past. At the end of the day, if Clark has an opinion about a player, and the need to upgrade or change, it's going to happen regardless of Pioli's thoughts.

Clark for GM? :shrug: :drool:

Take it with a grain of salt, but Clark trusts Pioli far more than he should, but he's very aware of the problems the team has and is involved in trying to fix them.

I'm one who doesn't really mind Josh coming in as OC.

Matt Cassel will either be here or he won't. I do not think Josh coming in will make any difference in that situation. Personally I think he is here next year as our starter regardless; because of Pioli. If Cassel is here and starting, who better to send him plays than the only person that had him playing well?

I despise Cassel. But I have no decision in the call. So if Cassel is going to be here, may as well bring in Josh.
Denvers offense was pretty good with him, and we all know about NE. The Rams are just a terrible all around team with major injury problems and not much talent. Lombardi couldn't have coached them into a winning season this year. And for the drafting of Tebow.... Yes, josh was stupid for picking him in the first round, but maybe he had a plan for him that would've actually worked... we will never know.

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Here Comes The Josh McDaniels And The Chiefs Talk Again
by Joel Thorman on Jan 6, 2012 8:28 AM CST


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We wrote yesterday that the talk of Josh McDaniels going to the Kansas City Chiefs seems to have dried up. NFL Network's Michael Lombardi reported on Wednesday that McDaniels is not coming to KC in any capacity but now a report out of St. Louis says otherwise.

Inside a Q&A with other reporters, Bryan Burwell of the St. Louis Post Dispatch writes:



"A well-placed league source says both the Patriots and Chiefs have reached out to the Rams to seek permission to talk to McDaniels, but no word on if the Rams gave it."

The KC Star's Sam Mellinger previously reported that McDaniels has not and will not interview for the head coaching job. Offensive coordinator? Maybe, but that's a lateral move and the Rams would have to approve the discussions.

The Patriots lost Bill O'Brien, their offensive coordinator, to Penn State.

So let's think about this logically.

On the one hand, you have Lombardi, who has broken plenty of Chiefs news, saying this will not happen. He's been reliable in the past and he's clear in saying, "[H]e is not going to KC in any role."

On the other hand, you have a report out of St. Louis that calls McDaniels a "valuable commodity" and furthers the market for him by saying both the Chiefs and Patriots are interested and reaching out to him.

Hmm. Aren't coaching rumors fun?

i hear ya man, its Patriots west.

I've kind of warmed to the fact that if McDaniels is brought in here...he either fails or succeeds. So either Pioli finds something special....or he gets canned.

So whatever...do it.

Don't see why McDaniels = Cassel. Not at all.

Just because Cassel was the best option for the Patriots in 2008 does NOT mean, especially with a few extra years of seeing his work, that he is the best option for the Chiefs in 2012. Doesn't add up in the slightest.

For the people who don't believe McD coming here doesn't necessarily correlate with Matt Cassel being the QB (although I completely disagree), lets say you're right and they're unrelated.

You should still be furious because he hasn't earned the job. 31st ranked O in St Louis. Sam Bradford actually looked promising until he got there.

It would reek of the good ole boy network.

There's also the grand courting of Cassel by McD and Pioli in 2009, with all the professions of eternal love and $$M's. But yeah, the enigma of what ANYONE sees in Cassel continues to confound.

Like it or not, he's coming here if Pioli wants him. He's already shown he can be successful with Brady under center, as have many other OCs. Where's the career advancement with doing it?

My biggest hope of not having to watch Cassel in a Chiefs uniform next year is I don't think RAC wants his final shot as a HC to be ruined by Cassel's ineptitude.

I've said it in other threads before.....but if McDaniels is on this team.....I will not be watching them next season.

like your post.
i agree, if Romeo would have accepted Cassel as the starting QB, the coaching search would have ended and Romeo would be the guy.
but that didnt happen.

its all about Pioli's man crush on Cassel.

Josh and Matt finally reunited! YES!!!!!!

so ****ing what.

I know you care....

you have said it enough that it seems like you think we all do

I'm OK with that. As long as it is back in New England.

Yeah....I'll just stop posting on a message board because I'm annoying you. :thumb:

I don't understand all the hate. We all know Cassell will be back next year, Josh would be the best thing for Matt

Even though you are trolling, I have to agree with that statement. :doh!:

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Rams have told Josh McDaniels they won't hold him to his contract. If he wants to leave, they'll let him.

But would either be the best thing for the Chiefs? :hmmm:

It ain't troll if its the truth, and its always the truth

You're annoying me too.

I don't see a better alternative unless we trade for Peyton or something

who said anything about quitting posting?

we get it. if mcdaniels is hired you wont watch them next year. i think all the regular guys have seen that post from you a couple of times at least, can we move on now?

I'm just making sure all of the n00bs know that as well.

I'm a big deal.

Personally, I don't think it is written in stone that Cassel will be back. He has done nothing in 3 years here to solidify that right. I know you don't see it that way but you are in the very minority whit your thoughts.

Crennel has already said if Orton played the final 2 games the way he did against the Packers, then he should have a shot at the starting QB spot next season. And for the most part, Orton did play pretty well the last 2 games.

The absolute worst thing this team needs is to have both Orton and Cassel in a battle for the starting QB spot. In fact, they have both shown what they can do. One of them needs to go, so the remainder of the snaps in OTA's and training camp can go to a young QB (Stanzi or whoever) so that we can develop a legit QB of our own.

Why are they so blind to his talent?

This guy makes a good point when asked about whether the Rams should keep McDaniels:

KEVIN WHEELER (Host of “Sports Open Line” on KMOX)

It all depends on whether their philosophies match up. I seriously doubt that any head coach would judge McDaniels based on a bad first year as offensive coordinator, especially when he has had plenty of success in the past. Nobody rushed to judgment when Steve Spagnuolo went 1-15 his first year as head coach because the deck was stacked against him. I’m sure anyone who is established enough to be a head coach in the NFL will understand that and recognize that the 2011 Rams just weren’t good enough for the offense to function properly.

Take Carolina offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski for example. He was let go from two different offensive coordinator positions in the past – once at the University of Miami and once in Cleveland – and at the end of each tenure the offense was struggling. In each case the reason he was canned ultimately came down to the team having a lack of talented players. Now he’s in Carolina with some talent around and he’s now one of those up-and-coming guys on the verge of being a head coach.

There is no reason to question McDaniels as an offensive coordinator. At least not yet. One bad year on a team that we all know was incredibly flawed isn’t enough for anyone to toss the guy aside and any new head coach will understand that. That coach’s decision to keep McDaniels or let him him go will be based more on philosophy – or the desire to bring in a trusted assistant in his place – rather than on what the Rams did offensively in 2011.

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colum...#ixzz1ihFMoFzt

Id like to keep both of them but if anybody goes its gonna be Orton especially if mcdaniels is here.

And as far as Cassell didn't do anything in three years, tell that to the probowl.

I pity the n00bs loss:

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Yeah big ****ing deal alright. I got ****in cheated in the damn gladiator games. :harumph:

Let it go. ROFL

Peter King @SI_PeterKing
Rams have told Josh McDaniels they won't hold him to his contract. If he wants to leave, they'll let him.

YES Tell how the story Mr. L.A. Chieffan how the mighty Cassel got to the probowl again? On the legs of Jamaal Charles and a cancellation from Brady.

In fairness, that Rams' offense has stunk for the better part of a decade.

McDaniels is a good hire it just sucks he'll keep Cassel.

27 to 7.

And I'll see you one Charlie Weis and #1 running offense.

And the weakest schedule in history

And a leash that was wider than it was long.

Its a good old boy network, and it has been the Patriots, prior to that the Jets to some extent, prior to that the Rams etc. etc.

Until the Chiefs establish some credentials again, get used to it.

Remember when Terry Shea was hired by the Bears to bring the Chief's offense to Chicago?

At the end of the day it's about the QB.

Chudzinski looked like a bad OC in Cleveland with Anderson/Quinn, now he's a savior with Newton.

Mularkey looked bad with Buffalo, now he's a savior in Atlanta with Ryan.

Draft and develop a legit QB and just about any OC can shine.

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Exactly Cassell has been forced to deal with a new OC every year, give him somebody he's comfortable with and you see what he can do.

Thanks for proving my point for me.

Cassel needs all other 10 players on offense playing well to be a "decent" QB.

I'd like a QB who has the skills to put the rest of the offense on his back and make THEM look good.
Brady, Manning, Brees, and Rodgers make no-name receivers look like Pro-Bowlers.

And again, I am all for that too. Just not in KC.

It's hilarious how wound up L.A.Chieffan has some of you.

This isn't true.

Mularky's Bills were 7th in total offense in 2004.

Chudzinski's Browns offense was 8th in 2008.

We don't have one so we'll be every bit as bad as the (in game) decision making of our HC...

because my entire life following the Chiefs they've won 1 playoff game. Thats ****ing it. Either I'm ****ing dumb for buying into the Chiefs in 1990 and following them into 2012 without a goddamn appearance into the 2nd round playoffs since 1993 post season or I'll start to recognize what really needs to happen with this team and thats draft a goddamn QB instead of hiring coaches and broke dick QB's who did keg stands at the pancake social together every year for the last 10 years as they receive paycheck after paycheck and not giving a **** about reality.

What happened the following years?

I'll tell you: in 2007 the Browns had a good offense, in 2008 they were 30th in yards, 31st in points.
The Bills fell to 24th yards and 25th points in 2005.

Get a good consistent QB.

Cassel needs the opposition to leave his primary receiver wide open and decline to penetrate the pocket..

and you propose to do what exactly? reach for a qb in the first round so he can more than likely bust for 3 or four years and we're back to where we started? no thank you sir. what we need to do is realize where we are at and come to grips of what is best for the team in the immediate future. bring in josh, draft a couple of OL early to help protect cassell and the running game, charles and moeaki will be back from injury and let let matt flourish.

Matt 'flourishing' is eking out narrow victories over bottom tier teams. Otherwise, it's Matt wasting everyone's time.

John Clayton just said Josh McDanieks won't be back in Stl and that "if he doesn't want the job in Kansas City, he will go back to NE"

The way he worded that comment seems to indicate the job is his if he wants it.

The OC job.

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