Senior Bowl Week
 

Weigh ins and practice start today. Place all reports in this thread for ease of reference.

Here is a link to the rosters:

http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlhtswts.html

Looks like a weak WR group.

we need to look at some OL ......

DaKCMan AP's players to watch (with pre-senior bowl favorites in bold):

QB Kirk Cousins
QB Nick Foles
RB Vick Ballard
RB Terrance Ganaway
WR DeVier Posey
WR Marquise Maze
WR Marvin McNutt
TE LaDarius Green
TE Brad Smelley
C Mike Brewster
C Ben Jones
C Philip Blake
OG Cordy Glenn
OG Kevin Zeitler
OT Mike Adams
OT Tony Bergstrom
OT Zebrie Sanders
NT Alameda Ta'amu
DT Jaye Howard (I think he could transition to a 3-4 DE
LB Audie Cole
LB James-Michael Johnson
CB Brandon Boykin
CB Janoris Jenkins
S Antonio Allen
S Markelle Martin
S Brandon Taylor
S Trenton Robinson

I'd go ahead and highlight LaDarius Green too.

I'm very intrigued by him.. but I haven't seen him play so I can't label him a pre-game favorite.

Players to watch

QBs- all
HB - Poke
TE - Egnew and Green
LB- Johnson and Bradham
S- Iloka
CB - Boykin
C - Blake and Brewster
T - Sanders.

I hope we talk to...

QB:

Cousins
Moore
and Foles and Lindley are probably already on Pioli's list. Wouldn't be excited with either, though.

RB:

Polk
Ballard

TE:

Egnew

C:

Brewster
Jones

G:

Zeitler

OT:

Adams
McCants
Sanders

DT:

Ta'amu
Wolfe
Winn

LB:

Johnson

S:

Robinson

I think Polk would pair pretty well with Charles.

Anyone know much about Brewster?

Kellen Moore is NOT the shortest QB at the Senior Bowl.

http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinQB.php

THAT'S why I dont want Russel Wilson.

Top recruit out of Florida that went to a crappy school. Started all 4 years and is solid, but not outstanding. Taller (6'5") and lighter (<300) than preferred.

Holy crap. Removing Russell Wilson from my list.

Which Brewster are you talking about?

Mike

Moore has the smallest hands though.

I see he weighed in at 6'4 and 310, which is better than 6'5 and <300. Still taller than I'd like at center. Maurkice and Mike Pouncey are both 6'5 centers, but both are also more athletic than Brewster.

Who wants Doug Flutie?

Mayock on #Wisconsin QB Russell Wilson: "Could be Doug Flutie. I mean, that's how good this kid is. Innate understanding of making plays."

Evan Silva @evansilva
More Mayock on Russell Wilson: "He's a playmaker, I don't care how tall he is. He's got a good enough arm. ... That kid is special."

Really? Do you really think Ohio State is a "crappy school"? I sure hope not. A much better football school than Florida.

Can't believe I'm defending the Buckeye's...

ROFL

Some early reports from SI.com
Mike Adams (T/Ohio State) is really starting to pull it together. He's used his wide frame to out-position defenders and moves his feet well for a big man.
- Michael Egnew (TE/Missouri) has looked incredibly fluid and smooth all day. He's very natural catching the ball and shows nice tight end speed.
3:46 p.m. CT -- Vinny Curry (DE/Marshall) has looked terrific in the early going. He's been matched up against Ohio State tackle Mike Adams, who has been rising up draft boards, yet he's bettered the Big Ten lineman. Curry has looked quick, athletic and fluid. Adams reverted to holding Curry in an attempt slow him down.
- To his credit Adams did rebound and has looked very good run blocking.
- Mike Quick (WR/Appalachian State) has struggled and looked outclassed. His routes are awfully slow and not sharp. He's also dropped several catchable throws.
- Marvin Jones (WR/Cal) has stood out in one-on-one drills. He probably runs the best routes of anyone on the North team, consistently separates from defensive backs and has made several outstanding receptions.
- Kirk Cousins (QB/Michigan State) has shown the best arm of any signal caller on the North and it's of legitimate NFL strength. He's powered the ball into the tight spots and has challenged the hands of his receivers.
3:37 p.m. CT -- It's overcast and slightly raining as the first practice of the day has gotten underway at the Senior Bowl.
- Devier Posey (WR/Ohio State) looks terrific in the early going. He's run great routes and caught everything thrown in his direction. Posey looks very fluid and natural and does not look like a player that missed most of the 2011 season.
- TJ Graham (WR/North Carolina State) a late addition to the game, has also looked good. He's made several difficult receptions and has run crisp, quick routes.
- Marvin McNutt (WR/Iowa) has struggled in the early going. He looks very stiff and has dropped a number of catchable throws.
- Though its still early, Kellen Moore (QB/Boise State) does not look good. He shows no ability to put speed on his passes and his throws have consistently been behind receivers.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1kKfKbNnB

But but but.. he's a winner.. and the little engine that could. ROFL

How many national championships does Florida have? That's what I thought homer.

But, but, but, their in teh SEC!

Nice.

I noticed that awhile back.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=22

Cousins is who I hope the Chiefs go after since they aren't going to be going after any QB in the first, no matter how bad people on here want to believe they will.

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:30 and 1:43.

College football is about what you have done lately. Princeton and Yale have the most National Championships in the history of college football. I guess they're the best football schools. :spock:

During Mike Brewster's four years at ohio state they won 1 bowl game. In that same time, Florida has won 4 bowl games (one of them against Mike Brewster and ohio state) including a National Championship.

You have some studying to do, starting with recent college football history, the proper use(s) of there, their, and they're, and how to not get butthurt over an exaggerated joke.

Yeah looks like he could be a steal on the 2nd day.

I would be happy with him.

Such a good football program. They get many more top recruits than OSU, b/c they're in the SEC and they don't have to worry about the players grades much at all. Still though, with ALL those top recruits, they have about the same number of players in the NFL.

The above statement is unintelligible.

Sorry, I was typing quickly on a phone. Better?

Ok? Sure, players care about making it to the next level. They can do that at both programs.

Which one produces a more with less?

Way to go, Florida beat up on a down OSU team b/c some idiots decided to sells their trophy/memorabilia material.

Also, since 2002, OSU has played in more National Championship games than Florida. No, they didn't win any, and yes, they lost one to Florida.

Your statement was ridiculiuos though. "Top recruit out of Florida that went to a crappy school". Ohio St. is not a crappy school.

On the QB front:
5. Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State, 6-4, 229, 5.10 (South). At one point during practice, Lindley had thrown almost as many passes into the turf as into his receivers' hands. He showed slight improvement later, but not enough to save the day. He looked like a slow-twitch athlete who was deliberate in his movement. He also had the worst arm strength among South QBs.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...#ixzz1kLSY79Av

South Practice

By Bo Wulf
Posted 2 hours ago
MOBILE, Alabama – The North and South squads split up for the only time this week Monday, as the South team, generally thought to be the more talented of the two, took their Day 1 job interview to Fairhope Stadium.

The practice was dominated throughout by the defensive line, which features what could be as many as four first-round picks. During individual drills, the offensive line didn’t stand much of a chance as Quinton Coples, the North Carolina defensive end, had his way with the likes of Florida State’s Zebrie Sanders and UAB’s Matt McCants. Coples, 6-6, 281, used his enormous length to swat away would-be blockers and was also strong enough to push guys back with ease.

South Carolina’s Melvin Ingram, 6-2, 276, was impressive as well and had his way in one-on-one with Georgia’s Ben Jones. He would project as a nice fit at defensive end under Jim Washburn. Alabama pass rusher Courtney Upshaw, 6-1, 273, is a classic pass-rushing tweener who brings about questions as to whether his best fit is as a 4-3 defensive end or as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Upshaw worked exclusively as a defensive end during individual drills and his strength was easy to see – he continually drove offensive linemen into the backfield. While the Washington Redskins coaching staff vacillated the defense between 3-4 and 4-3 fronts during the team drills, Upshaw was most impressive on the line, where he worked with the “first team” alongside Coples and defensive tackle Brandon Thompson and Kheeston Randall. Thompson was actually the one who often stole the show, consistently blowing up plays in the backfield by using his impressive strength.

At cornerback, Janoris Jenkins of North Alabama is one of the week’s more intriguing prospects. Dismissed from the Florida team as a junior, Jenkins played his final collegiate year at small school North Alabama, but his talent is top-end. Early in practice, Jenkins was admonished by Redskins secondary coach Raheem Morris for some technique issues and a dropped ball, but the talented 5-foot-10 cornerback rebounded very nicely throughout the rest of practice, displaying impressive coverage ability. Tellingly, Jenkins was effective in press coverage, something which, following practice, Jenkins said was a goal for him this week. Elsewhere at cornerback, Georgia’s Brandon Boykin, 5-9, 183, was impressive in coverage and Furman’s Ryan Steed was not overwhelmed by the talent bump. Boykin made one particularly impressive play in one-on-ones when North Carolina wide receiver Dwight Jones had a step on him but Boykin knocked the ball away from the taller Jones.

The flipside to the impressive play by the cornerbacks was a lack of impressive performances at wide receiver. Only one receiver on the South team looked dangerous – Joe Adams of Arkansas, who submitted a superlative practice. Adams is undersized at 5-10, 174, but he can create separation with ease and he made two separate outstanding diving catches. Adams likely fits as a slot receiver at the next level, but he also has value as a potential return specialist. Speaking of which, six players took reps as punt returners for the South: Adams, Jenkins, Boykin, Houston wide receiver Pat Edwards, Alabama wide receiver Marquis Maze and Florida running back Chris Rainey.

Finally, the first day of quarterback competition was an easy victory in favor of Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden, the 28-year-old former Minor League baseball player. Weeden was on point all afternoon long, hitting receivers in stride in one-on-one drills, seven-on-sevens and, more importantly, team drills. Weeden also impressed with his ability to throw on the move, especially rolling left on a few play-action plays. Knowing that every team will be concerned about his advanced age, Weeden was very polished following practice in his explanation of using his maturity as a strength, rather than a weakness. Perhaps the upside isn’t atmospheric with Weeden, but his floor is relatively high. Arizona’s Nick Foles, on the other hand, has a stronger arm than Weeden but struggled with accuracy at times in intermediate routes and was understandably not quite calibrated with his receivers on deep balls. Foles did show nice awareness on a few check-downs in the face of pressure. Most expects Foles to rebound with better performances as the week goes on. San Diego State’s Ryan Lindley is a level below both Weeden and Foles.

I'm honestly shocked that Lindley was terribly inaccurate. Really. I am.

Ohio State sucks and Florida is better than them. I'm not saying how much better, but they are better. That point has been proven when it mattered time and time again. The postseason record proves the point and nothing anyone says can refute that. Hating on the SEC is ritual here.

Really, I'm talking about the quality of the program, and what it can give the player. Not what the players give to it. OSU is a great program. Florida doesn't develop talent anywhere near as well as OSU.

Didn't hurt that, like him or not, Florida had one of the best college players of all time when Florida played Ohio State.

Chris Leak

Oh, please. Over the past decade both programs have averaged top-15 recruiting classes. It's not like we're comparing David and Goliath.

Last year was probably the worst Florida team in a decade.

Over the past 5 NFL drafts each program has had 27 players selected.

Round
1st: Florida 8 - ohio state 6
2nd: Florida 4 - ohio state 2
3rd: Florida 3 - ohio state 1
4th: Florida 4 - ohio state 5
5th: Florida 3 - ohio state 5
6th: Florida 1 - ohio state 3
7th: Florida 4 - ohio state 5

Outstanding. :thumb:

I like Brandon Boykin a lot.

28 year old college QBs are pathetic.

Garland Gillen @garlandgillen
Notables at SR. Bowl: Jets HC Rex Ryan, Chiefs HC Romeo Crennel, Broncos HC John Fox, Broncos GM John Elway, Cowboys DC Rob Ryan.

I'm fully expecting us to take Weeden.

Pioli likes players with high floors and Weeden is the epitome of that.

I hope we stay away from Weeden. He has what...5 years of QB play in him?

I'll take 5 years of Weeden over 2-3 years of Orton/Cassel and then another mediocre vet.

I would too...it would just be a shame knowing we will be in the same situation in a few more years looking for his replacement.

Favorite measurables so far:

Nick Foles is huge, with big hands. Love. It.

Alameda Ta'amu still seems more like a 4-3 nose than a 3-4 nose when I watch him play, but at 341 lbs, he might change my mind. Might. He'll be there at our second rounder.

Russell Wilson is a little smaller by an inch or two than I thought. Kellen Moore is no where near where I thought he was -- he's actually six feet tall. He's officially a low rounder.

Vick Ballard looks really solid, but he's a teency bit smaller than I anticipated.

All the best talent at RB is with the big RBs.

Kinda small TEs this year. The NFL is craving the more athletic types now.

Cordy Glenn is massive -- 6'4", 350 lbs.

This draft is rich in thumper ILBs. I like Belcher, but if we want one, we can get one virtually anywhere in this draft.

Longer arms, thicker frame.

Of the two, I'd prefer Wilson's physical attributes. Moore's a marginally better prospect, but I still think Wilson has a better frame.

Hope we could get Polk, I like him alot.


If Burfict is around in the second or third round we def need to grab him.

No thank you. Not sure what you see in this guy. He made a few play there in that video, but his footwork looks like shit, he bounces around in the pocket and he has that same funky Matt Cassel wind up in his throws.

I don't see anything in that video that would lead me to believe he can be a great QB.

During the Senior Bowl practice segment on NFL Network yesterday, Mayock compared Kellen Moore's arm strength to Tyler Palko's. He said Moore's was a little better but it was damning with faint praise, IMO.

Sucks to hear about Lindley. Weakest arm? Yikes. He sure as hell didn't display a weak arm in the games he played. If he doesn't get his shit together, dude is in for a major slide.

Comparing someone to Tyler Palko is NEVER a good thing.

They mostly showed Wilson and Cousins but the few times that the showed Moore throw, it looked to me like was really heaving it to get it out there.

Tuesday Morning North

10:42 a.m. CT -- S George Iloka of Boise State just made a beautiful interception of a pass thrown by Kirk Cousins. Iloka stepped in front of the receiver and grabbed the ball away.

- RB Chris Polk of Washington display terrific straigh ahead speed and power yet shows little in the way of creativity or the ability to elude defenders.

- DL Mike Martin of Michigan continues to impress. He's shown the ability to finish plays today and has been a disruptive force all day.

- DT Derek Wolfe of Cincinnati has been mostly quiet but just made a terrific play beating a double team block to get behind the line of scrimmage.

- WR Marvn McNutt of Iowa continues to struggle. He had a step on a defender 30 yards downfield, Leonard Johnsin of Iowa State, but dropped a pass perfectly placed in his hands by Kirk Cousins.

- OL Joe Looney of Wake Forest, who replaced the injured Garth Gerhart, is gingerly walking off the field with what looks like an ankle injury.

- LB James-Michael Johnson of Nevada has shown a lot of athleticism on the field today. He easily moves about the field, showing the ability to quickly get outside the box or get depth on pass drops. He's not made many plays on the ball, but is omnipresent moving around the field.

- WR Gerrell Robinson of Arizona State made several terrific catches in scrimmage. He continues to run good routes and really does a nice job using his 220-pound frame to box out cornerbacks and physically beat them down for the catch.

- RB Doug Martin of Boise State continues to impress scouts with his versatility. Beside displaying a variety of skils carrying the ball he looked good returning kicks during special teams practice.

- CB Asa Jackson of Cal-Poly has been quiet during the defensive drills but looked very good returning punts. He's been able to handle the 60-yard moonshots that have been coming off the foot of Wisconsin's Brad Nortman on a very breezy day.

10:18 a.m. CT -- QB Russell Wilson of Wisconsin has been up and down all morning. At times he throws beautiful, catchable passes that quickly arrive to the receivers' hands. Other times his passes resemble a wounded duck as they flutter in the air.

- RB Doug Martin of Boise State has looked terrific thus far. He runs with great quickness and shows a burst through the hole. Martin is also very patient and does a nice job side-stepping defenders to create yardage.

- DT Mike Martin of Michigan has been a disruptive force all morning. He just threw Penn State lineman Johnnie Troutman to the ground and blew up a running play.

- RB Isaiah Pead of Cincinnati is again the toughest running back to tackle. He shows terrific footwork and just gave Notre Dame safety Harrison Smith a nice stiff arm to keep his play alive.

- WR Brian Quick of Appalachian State continues to struggle. He shows very limited quickness in his game and cannot separate from defenders.

- TE Emil Igwenagu of UMass has looked terrific as a blocker this morning. He's lined up at both fullback and on the line as a tight end, and no one has been able to get by him. He's small, but tough and strong. Igwenagu just made a terrific catch in double coverage.

- OL Kevin Zeitler of Wisconsin has been shifting with Mike Brewster at the center position today.

- DT Kendall Reyes of UConn has been a force this morning. He shows great explosion off the snap, as well as a variety of moves with his hands. Reyes has gotten a lot of penetration and just destoryed Zeitler of Wisconsin in one-on-one drills.

- C Mike Brewster of Ohio State and DT Mike Martine of Michigan are again battling hard in practice. Brewster laughed about it yesterday and noted it's just a continuation of what's taken place the past four years.

- G Kelechi Osemele of Iowa State has had a solid morning. He uses his wide body to seal defenders from the action and was able to overwhelm the smaller Vinny Curry.

- OL Tony Bergstrom of Utah has had a solid day. One one play he steered the athletic Jack Craford of Penn State from his pass-rush angle, then in another instance buried Billy Winn of Boise State. Winn has not looked good at all. He looked sloppy in weigh-ins and has not been a factor at all in practice.

10 a.m. CT -- Safety George Iloka of Boise State has had a quick start to the morning. He looks terrific in drills, displaying sound footwork in reverse and the ability to burst to the ball out of his plant.

- QB Kellen Moore of Boise State continues to struggle. The speed on his throws is notably slower than any of the other signal callers at practice this morning.

- WR Gerell Robinson of Arizona State looks solid. He runs exceptionally quick and crisp routes for a receiver that tips the scales in excess of 220 pounds.

- QB Kirk Cousins of Michigan State continues to throw the ball with terrific speed and velocity. Receivers are never waiting on the pass as they leave their breaks.

- OLB Shea McCLellin of Boise State continues to impress since making the move to linebacker. He destroyed several running backs and fullbacks this morning in pass-rushing drills in which he simulated standing up over a tackle.

- What's so impressive about T Mike Adams of Ohio State is the way he easily moves his 330-pound frame around the field. Even this morning, when asked to block in motion, Adams quickly gets out to the second level and is able to adjust and block linebackers thanks to his agililty.

Moore is short with small hands. Nothing's changed.

Ballard is 5'10" 217. That's perfect size, IMO.

Of the two I'd prefer Wilson, but I don't want either.

Cousins on his way to moving ahead of Pioli's draftable QB rounds. SOB needs to have a bad pratice already.

He's going to look great compared to the other guys on his team.

Meh.

Ryan Lindley is going to light shit up in the NFL with his air mail and bounce passes.

What does Lindley have to do with Cousins' shit footwork and Cassel-esque wind up arm?

Just pointing out your dislike for a "shitty" QB who's impressing people to a QB who is a career 55% passer and apparently a not so strong arm.

So are you denying that Cousins has shit footwork and a Cassel Arm? Because the evidence is right there on the youtube clip you showed.

I think its pretty clear that Cousins does not have a "Cassel arm."

Cousins, Polk, Brewster, Adams, Jenkins, and McNutt.

ShanePHallam Shane P. Hallam
So far, Ryan Lindley is throwing EVERYTHING into the ground. #seniorbowl
1 hour ago

Tebow?

What a shame. Guess he has one game to prove himself. Oh Well.

He has that same damn wind up.

If that's your only problem with him, it's not a very good one.

This throwing motion isn't a big deal. It's about whether he can read the defense, look off safeties, move his feet in the pocket, throw accurate passes, and get them there on time. If you want to complain about Cousin's QB ability, his throwing motion shouldn't be the first place to start.

Really? Thats what you are going with? Yawn.

Maybe you could teach Lindley a thing or 2 about throwing mechanics. I mean... It's "an easy" fix and all. Seems the NFL coaches at the Senior Bowl can't figure it out.

Tebow's worst season in college was 64%.

Lindley's best season in college is 57%.

A million bucks says Jags get Brian quick as the first WR in the draft, maybe only. GM is THAT awful.

I hope you guys clean up in the draft.

Yeah, because they run the same system, right? You don't know dick about the Aztecs, they're not exactly a team loaded with superior talent. Still not sure what Lindley has to do with your infatuation with Cousins anyway.

Wether Lindley makes it or not doesn't change the fact that Cousins doesn't look like an NFL QB.

But go ahead, continue acting like a bitch like you always do and watch your boy do absolutely nothing in the NFL.

Lindley has nothing to do with Cousins. I'm just mocking your "knowledge" on the subject.

And I really don't care about a system. Lindley can't throw a football with any consistency or accuracy. That has nothing to do with a system.

You have yet to tell me anything I don't know.

I'm pretty sure i've stated that multiple times. It's something he obviously needs to work on. Same way Cousins needs to work on his happy feet and funky throwing motion.

Why you got your panties in a bunch because I threw that out there is beyond me.

My panties aren't in a bunch over anything. Stop pretending to know something.