Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8353988)

:popcorn:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8353989)

He won't sign here. I guarantee it.

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8353995)

**** it...Package Cassel + our 2nd rnd pick for Washington's 1st rnd pick.

DONE.

Starting position open now!

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8354044)

I'd gladly take him over Cassel, but I don't think he'll want to play here.

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8354081)

I think if he knew for a fact he'd have a legit shot at starting he would sign here in a minute.

Originally Posted by Charming? (Post 8354134)

If I'm Orton, there's a Seattle, Washington, Miami, Cleveland, or hell... even a friggin Buffalo, Oakland, Arizona, or EVEN a New York Jets job. I would assume that getting signed onto those gigs means I'm the actual starter. Why compete with the GM's pet reerun when I can have a starting job right now?

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8354148)

A thread begging for us to sign Orton? Wow this franchise sucks.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8354131)

I'm on board.


Anyone think Cassel could beat him out in a legit competition.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8354131)

I'm on board.


Anyone think Cassel could beat him out in a legit competition.

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8353995)

**** it...Package Cassel + our 2nd rnd pick for Washington's 1st rnd pick.

DONE.

Starting position open now!

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 8354291)

Our QB situation is actually pretty favorable. We have 2 serviceable QBs and a promising kid. Start Orton and Cassel is an above average backup.

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8354300)

I think I'd rather suffer 1 more year of a terrible Cassel than lock up 3+ years of a mediocre Orton.

I know its a short window, but Orton isn't the answer and he's not gonna sign a 1 year contract.

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8354133)

Eh. I'd rather have the compensatory pick.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8354148)

A thread begging for us to sign Orton? Wow this franchise sucks.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8354131)

I'm on board.


Anyone think Cassel could beat him out in a legit competition.

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8354081)

I think if he knew for a fact he'd have a legit shot at starting he would sign here in a minute.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8354189)

I'm all in for Manning if the dude can play but I have doubts. Don't want Flynn either.


I wouldn't mind seeing us bring in Vince YOung, but he is a damn headcase and I don't see them doing that.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8354418)

I totally agree.

Ive mentioned it a few times, but I think that is the EXACT reason Romeo keeps bringing him up in the media.

Romeo KNOWS he will be fired sooner rather than later if he doesn't get somebody in here real fast that can beat Cassel out in camp.

Romeo had Derek Anderson.



Id take a chance on Peyton. If it doesnt work out, at least we tried.

I know Im gonna go against the grain on this one too, but I would sign Vince Young (not over Orton, though)

I think Vince is a similar type of cat as Derrick Johnson used to be, prior to Romeo (and Haley).

Very talented, flashes elite ability...but very inconsistent and can be a liability due to that factor. He seems to lack a "father figure" type that believes in him and can get through the defense mechanisms and get him to stay focused and dedicated.

It would be worth a shot to see if Romeo can be that guy for the kid if we cant sign Orton and the cost to move up in this draft is deemed too high.

One thing is for sure.

He wins football games.

I will always think that Jeff Fisher was a fool to play all the mind games with the kid.

When the kid played, the team played well and won games. When he sat, they looked like crap and were one of the worst teams in football.

The fact that the owner had to step in and TELL Fisher to play the quarterback the team WON GAMES WITH is crazy as ****.

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8353995)

**** it...Package Cassel + our 2nd rnd pick for Washington's 1st rnd pick.

DONE.

Starting position open now!

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8354131)

I'm on board.

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8353995)

**** it...Package Cassel + our 2nd rnd pick for Washington's 1st rnd pick.

DONE.

Starting position open now!

Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 8355164)

That's pretty funny. LMAO Though I have seen over the years since CP opened, a lot of posters that seriously thought it would be clever to polish a turd on the Chiefs roster and add a pick to it, then offer it to a team to get their first round pick like they were not aware the player we were offering was a steaming pile of shit.....

Never worked in the past but, thanks for the bringing up the comedy in it....

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8355170)

You too, are funny.

See what I did there?

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Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 8355221)

Awesome!

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8355070)

Orton is just a raspberry flavored turd.

Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 8355221)

Awesome!

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8354414)

State of the Chiefs, '12, three years after TEOTD arrived.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8355546)

I would rather have Cassel as weird as that sounds. Reason for that is neither him, nor Orton are good enough to take us all the way. At least with Cassel running the ship he can finally prove to Pioli that he is awful (and does not deserve a place in Pioli's personal ring of honor) and we might finally address the QB situation. With Orton the circle of QB life in KC continues on as it ever has.

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8355508)

Dumb question, but...

Can we begin discussing a new contract with him before March 13th since he was last under contract with us? Or do we have to wait like other teams?

Originally Posted by SNoRe (Post 8355238)

Dude, raspberry flavoring? That's disgusting!

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8355559)

I'd rather have Orton. He really didn't have all that fair of shake in Denver. They shipped out his best receivers... at a time when the offense was moving along pretty well. The replacement receivers had injury issues. Then they brought in the living legand with a 1st round draft pick, and were pressured into a QB controversy that everyone pretty much knew was going to go Tebows way.

My guess is Orton is better than everyone gives him credit for being. He sort of showed that here, without the benifit of even playing with our offense before. And he probably has a serious chip on his shoulder about being replaced by a FB/TE.

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8355569)

So you'd say he's a bacon wrapped turd?

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8355646)

I think he could be a late bloomer that understands the game now lilke Gannon, Green, Warner, etc.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8355708)

All this fuss over a better backup

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8355658)

I agree. Maybe not the Warner part, but for for the "we just need a Qb like Green" crowd, I think Orton could be that guy.

Mike McCarthy seemed to be very fond of the guy, so that's a pretty damn good endorsement.

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8355559)

I'd rather have Orton. He really didn't have all that fair of shake in Denver. They shipped out his best receivers... at a time when the offense was moving along pretty well. The replacement receivers had injury issues. Then they brought in the living legand with a 1st round draft pick, and were pressured into a QB controversy that everyone pretty much knew was going to go Tebows way.

My guess is Orton is better than everyone gives him credit for being. He sort of showed that here, without the benifit of even playing with our offense before. And he probably has a serious chip on his shoulder about being replaced by a FB/TE.

Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 8355221)

Awesome!

Sent from my Dell laptop in ****ing LA using keystrokes....

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8356853)

Cutler is good, but not all world. And Chicago gave up multiple first round picks AND Orton for him. That was viewed as a fair trade. Orton is yet another in a long line of journeyman QBs/career back ups (not calling him a career backup) that this team brings in. The biggest argument for why we should keep him is because he is better than Cassel. That is not a strong endorsement. This team needs to move in another direction. Keeping Orton continues the process that has failed this organization for over 40 years now. We need to demand more from the organization, not be content with continuing what has not worked for over 40 years.

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8357084)

Been a Chiefs fan since the 60's. Know all about it. You can find many post here with me wanting to trade up for Luck. And you will find quite a few posts here with me advocating RGIII. Manning? Yep! I'd take him too! Reality says we are not getting any of these three.

Tannehill? Don't know what to think there, but I do think he is a project at best.

So short term, Orton is fine by me, given we won't/can't get any of the first three options.

Plus, I am not convinced Orton might not turn out to be a real NFL QB. And I am convinced Cassel won't.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8355546)

I would rather have Cassel as weird as that sounds. Reason for that is neither him, nor Orton are good enough to take us all the way. At least with Cassel running the ship he can finally prove to Pioli that he is awful (and does not deserve a place in Pioli's personal ring of honor) and we might finally address the QB situation. With Orton the circle of QB life in KC continues on as it ever has.