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Thig Lyfe 02-23-2012 03:13 PM

Schefter: Rams have had preliminary discussions about trading #2 pick
 
https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/...89821046132736

Not a repost.

Bowser 02-23-2012 03:14 PM

Repost

Mr. Laz 02-23-2012 03:14 PM

impossible ... Blackmon is the 2nd coming of megatron, the Rams will never pass on him.

ToxSocks 02-23-2012 03:14 PM

Q

ToxSocks 02-23-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8393372)
impossible ... Blackmon is the 2nd coming of megatron, the Rams will never pass on him.

He'll still be there @ #4 when the Browns trade up to snag RGIII.

HemiEd 02-23-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8393372)
impossible ... Blackmon is the 2nd coming of megatron, the Rams will never pass on him.

The irony, and complete meltdown would be if the Chiefs traded up to #2 and took Blackmon.

Micjones 02-23-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8393379)
He'll still be there @ #4 when the Browns trade up to snag RGIII.

So when he says he's "taking the Browns to the Superbowl" he won't be referring to a BM?

Micjones 02-23-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8393380)
The irony, and complete meltdown would be if the Chiefs traded up to #2 and took Blackmon.

No way they invest another #1 in a WR.

suds79 02-23-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8393379)
He'll still be there @ #4 when the Browns trade up to snag RGIII.

this

CanadianChief 02-23-2012 03:23 PM

They're trading down to #11 with Seattle

DeezNutz 02-23-2012 03:24 PM

Pioli clearly working the phones. Good deal.

talastan 02-23-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8393380)
The irony, and complete meltdown would be if the Chiefs traded up to #2 and took Blackmon.

While I agree that it would be ironic I don't see it happening. The only way this trade is made with the Chiefs is if we are moving up for a QB. It is the only position that makes sense this high in the draft. (Of course we have Pioli as a GM) :deevee:

Bowser 02-23-2012 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8393415)
Pioli clearly working the phones. Good deal.

http://randomhighfives.files.wordpre...ca3de690_o.jpg

Demonpenz 02-23-2012 03:29 PM

Bowe's handed his phone to tell him to start packing his bags, phone is dropped.

VikesFan 02-23-2012 03:30 PM

I would be somewhat suprised if they pass on Justin Blackmon or Matthew Kalil

Imon Yourside 02-23-2012 03:31 PM

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Rams have already had preliminary talks with "multiple teams" about trading up to No. 2 overall.

The Rams are willing to deal the pick for "the right package," of course. Vikings GM Rick Spielman is practically begging teams to trade up to the No. 3 spot, but he has no leverage with the Rams already holding an RGIII auction for the Browns, Redskins, Dolphins, and Seahawks. Schefter expects trade talks to "accelerate" once the free agent market plays out at quarterback. Feb 23 - 3:40 PM

DeezNutz 02-23-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 8393435)
Bowe's handed his phone to tell him to start packing his bags, phone is dropped.

I know. It would be really shocking!

(penz's joke hits the crossbar)

KCUnited 02-23-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8393380)
The irony, and complete meltdown would be if the Chiefs traded up to #2 and took Blackmon.

We could then franchise Bowe and have the best WR corp in the league!1/cp

MIAdragon 02-23-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8393415)
Pioli clearly working the phones. Good deal.

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Rams Fan 02-23-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8393372)
impossible ... Blackmon is the 2nd coming of megatron, the Rams will never pass on him.

No, he isn't.

the Talking Can 02-23-2012 03:44 PM

we should offer them Pioli

Thig Lyfe 02-23-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8393484)
we should offer them Pioli

On a spit.

Rams Fan 02-23-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8393484)
we should offer them Pioli

I wonder if someone has ever traded themselves before.

the Talking Can 02-23-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8393509)
I wonder if someone has ever traded themselves before.

i'd like Clark to call and offer him

seriously...RG3 or pioli

i'd do it

VikesFan 02-23-2012 03:53 PM

Interesting but I do not know, I just can not see the Rams passing on Justin and if they do, everybody would be calling them stupid or a genius depending on what they get from the trade but I am afraid that if the Rams trade down, it might hurt the Vikings chances of trading down but then again, Blackmon, Kalil, and Claiborne are 3 great options to choose at the #3 pick but I would like to see the Vikings draft Kalil or Claiborne over Blackmon but that is just me though

Rams Fan 02-23-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8393517)
i'd like Clark to call and offer him

seriously...RG3 or pioli

i'd do it

Why would the Rams need Pioli?

the Talking Can 02-23-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8393526)
Why would the Rams need Pioli?

why do i care what the rams need?

this is my fantasy

Mr. Laz 02-23-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8393479)
No, he isn't.

paging zilla .... paging chiefzilla


Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8365276)
Blackmon isn't just any receiver. Blackmon, to me, is as surefire as Megatron was years ago.


Stanley Nickels 02-23-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikesFan (Post 8393519)
Interesting but I do not know, I just can not see the Rams passing on Justin and if they do, everybody would be calling them stupid or a genius depending on what they get from the trade but I am afraid that if the Rams trade down, it might hurt the Vikings chances of trading down but then again, Blackmon, Kalil, and Claiborne are 3 great options to choose at the #3 pick but I would like to see the Vikings draft Kalil or Claiborne over Blackmon but that is just me though

I see you were very invested in that sentence. Did the thought of a new one scare you?

ROYC75 02-23-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 8393461)
We could then franchise Bowe and have the best WR corp in the league!1/cp

With no QB to throw the ball.......

No wait we have Stanzi, a guy that could not beat out Tyler Palko and Cassell.

RealSNR 02-23-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8393526)
Why would the Rams need Pioli?

How do the floors look around Rams HQ? Do you guys have a candy wrapper problem?

saphojunkie 02-23-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8393375)
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Can you please explain this phenomenon?

Chief_in_Commander 02-23-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8394138)
Can you please explain this phenomenon?

This

Thig Lyfe 02-23-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_in_Commander (Post 8394234)
This

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RealSNR 02-23-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8394138)
Can you please explain this phenomenon?

I'm pretty sure Bob Dole knows the story. PM him.

O.city 02-23-2012 09:13 PM

3 1sts, 2 2nds and a 3.

Psyko Tek 02-23-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8393526)
Why would the Rams need Pioli?


jolly rancher clean up

Chief_in_Commander 02-23-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 8394258)
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I was j/k....had to needle

RealSNR 02-23-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 8394292)
jolly rancher clean up

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RustShack 02-23-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8393372)
impossible ... Blackmon is the 2nd coming of megatron, the Rams will never pass on him.

If Blackmon is THAT good, the Chiefs need to draft CB Lenard Johnson!

ShortRoundChief 02-23-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8393526)
Why would the Rams need Pioli?

I'll tell you why the Rams need Pioli. Put simply the Rams fans are the messiest fans in the United States of America. They walk around throwing gum wrappers, beer cans, and even peanut shells on the floor. They need a man to clean that mess up.

That is why they need Pioli.

tredadda 02-23-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8394278)
3 1sts, 2 2nds and a 3.

For that we better get Luck.

tredadda 02-23-2012 11:05 PM

We don't need a QB, we have Cassel. He made the Pro Bowl in 2010, remember? Pioli sure does.

Bump 02-23-2012 11:46 PM

DO IT PIOLI AND GET RG3 GOD DAMN YOU

BossChief 02-24-2012 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8394278)
3 1sts, 2 2nds and a 3.

Id be willing to bet that it wont be anywhere near that much.

No way in blue hell Id give up that much for RG3.

I mean, there has to be a line drawn on how much is too much and my line would be 2 firsts and a second....I may add a third if thats what it takes to get it done and finalized, but that would be it.

You make a trade like that, you are ****ing yourself into building your team strictly through free agency and once the players and agents know that, you will pay far out the ass for average talent.

You will get a team full of garbage players and a few average ones that are paid like they are elite.

Tribal Warfare 02-24-2012 01:23 AM

D-Bowe and the 11/12th pick this year's third round and next years 2nd round pick.


Is what I'd offer in a perfect world

htismaqe 02-24-2012 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8394482)
If Blackmon is THAT good, the Chiefs need to draft CB Lenard Johnson!

I'm a Hawkeye fan so anybody that reads this should know that up front:

Johnson is one of the best college CBs I've EVER SEEN in the state of Iowa. He's got everything you look for in an NFL corner.

bevischief 02-24-2012 07:21 AM

Bowe is looking at homes in St Louis.

Thig Lyfe 02-24-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8394321)
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chiefzilla1501 02-24-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8393372)
impossible ... Blackmon is the 2nd coming of megatron, the Rams will never pass on him.

Youre still stuck on the dumb idea that the rams would use their minimal cap space and trade for bowe vs trading down to 4 and getting blackmon plus better picks at half the cost. Nice little argument... In candyland.

Oh but I forgot. The rams are desperate to win now. So it makes total sense now to bring in a guy 5 years older.

Fat Elvis 02-24-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8394754)
I'm a Hawkeye fan so anybody that reads this should know that up front:

Johnson is one of the best college CBs I've EVER SEEN in the state of Iowa. He's got everything you look for in an NFL corner.

Therein lies the caveat.....

htismaqe 02-24-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 8395160)
Therein lies the caveat.....

Well, the Hawkeyes have had several CBs in the NFL over the past few years. Some of them are starters (ie. Spievey in Detroit) and some were journeymen (ie. Benny Sapp). ISU had a pretty damn good one in Ellis Hobbs, too.

Johnson is potentially better than all of them.

RealSNR 02-24-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 8395113)
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chiefzilla1501 02-24-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8394683)
D-Bowe and the 11/12th pick this year's third round and next years 2nd round pick.


Is what I'd offer in a perfect world

Easily matched and beat by any of the teams calling about him.

RealSNR 02-24-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8395200)
Well, the Hawkeyes have had several CBs in the NFL over the past few years. Some of them are starters (ie. Spievey in Detroit) and some were journeymen (ie. Benny Sapp). ISU had a pretty damn good one in Ellis Hobbs, too.

Johnson is potentially better than all of them.

Benny Sapp was a Panther. He went to Northern Iowa.

scho63 02-24-2012 12:45 PM

Rams will amass a lot of picks/possible WR trade from this #2.

There is at least 4 very hungry teams who want that pick, that is a lot

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2012 12:49 PM

Adam Teicher ‏ @adamteicher Close
RG3 just said at combine he will interview tonight with #Chiefs

Tribal Warfare 02-24-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8395336)
Adam Teicher ‏ @adamteicher Close
RG3 just said at combine he will interview tonight with #Chiefs


JIMFP

O.city 02-24-2012 12:52 PM

I'm saying he will interview with about every team.


Only way he gets to us is if actual magic happens. Although....

Flynn to the Browns
Manning to the Phins
Orton to the Skins

He could fall right to 11.

RealSNR 02-24-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8395336)
Adam Teicher ‏ @adamteicher Close
RG3 just said at combine he will interview tonight with #Chiefs

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Tribal Warfare 02-24-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8395342)
I'm saying he will interview with about every team.


Only way he gets to us is if actual magic happens. Although....

Flynn to the Browns
Manning to the Phins
Orton to the Skins

He could fall right to 11.

pretty much my fantasyland scenario :D

O.city 02-24-2012 12:55 PM

I don't think there is anyway that happens but shit I wish it could.

ToxSocks 02-24-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8394683)
D-Bowe and the 11/12th pick this year's third round and next years 2nd round pick.


Is what I'd offer in a perfect world

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

We're not trading premier players FFS.

ToxSocks 02-24-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8395342)
I'm saying he will interview with about every team.


Only way he gets to us is if actual magic happens. Although....

Flynn to the Browns
Manning to the Phins
Orton to the Skins

He could fall right to 11.

Even if the skins signed Orton, they'd likely still draft RGIII

Tribal Warfare 02-24-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8395357)
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

We're not trading premier players FFS.



again I qualified it, but to get something of value you have to trade something of that's seen as equal value.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2012 12:59 PM

Arrowhead Pride ‏ @ArrowheadPride Close
RG3 said he would meet with the Chiefs tonight at the Combine. (/internet explodes)

RealSNR 02-24-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8395357)
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

We're not trading premier players FFS.

Like hell we're not.

I'd trade my own grandmother for Andrew Luck.

Thig Lyfe 02-24-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8395255)

http://img.007unleashed.com/albums/u...mal_twiner.jpg

chiefzilla1501 02-24-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 8395330)
Rams will amass a lot of picks/possible WR trade from this #2.

There is at least 4 very hungry teams who want that pick, that is a lot

What's so interesting about this trade is it has to happen soon. My guess is, soon after the combine. The rams know that if the browns get Flynn for example the value of the pick drops. With orton, campbell, and peyton also on he market the value of the pick could slide ultra fast.

Would be nice for the chiefs though if teams stared falling out of contention.

scho63 02-24-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8395573)
What's so interesting about this trade is it has to happen soon. My guess is, soon after the combine. The rams know that if the browns get Flynn for example the value of the pick drops. With orton, campbell, and peyton also on he market the value of the pick could slide ultra fast.

Would be nice for the chiefs though if teams stared falling out of contention.

I don't see any team going after the FA QB's UNTIL the Rams pick is settled. The Rams need as many teams salivating over that pick, so I agree the sooner the better for the Rams.

If they drag it out until two weeks before the draft, I can't see so many teams not having their QB situation resolved.

Chiefnj2 02-24-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8395573)
What's so interesting about this trade is it has to happen soon. My guess is, soon after the combine. The rams know that if the browns get Flynn for example the value of the pick drops. With orton, campbell, and peyton also on he market the value of the pick could slide ultra fast.

Would be nice for the chiefs though if teams stared falling out of contention.

I really can't imagine someone grabbing Manning prior to the draft. He'd have to make a dramatic recovery.

whoman69 02-24-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8395632)
I really can't imagine someone grabbing Manning prior to the draft. He'd have to make a dramatic recovery.

I agree with that, but you never know. Going after the draft with no QB option is something that gets GMs fired. They're going to bring Peyton in for a physical and get some expert opinions on his ability to play.

Chiefnj2 02-24-2012 03:26 PM

Rams may be more inclined to move back.

Justin Blackmon announced he isn't going to run at the combine.

Although he's a tremendous receiver, there has always been concerns about his speed.

Bewbies 02-24-2012 03:59 PM

Boner Jamz 2012

Rams Fan 02-24-2012 04:39 PM

Who says Blackmon is their target? What about Kalil?

RealSNR 02-24-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8395891)
Who says Blackmon is their target? What about Kalil?

The Rams drafting offensive tackles seems to be kind of like the Chiefs drafting defensive linemen.

Rams Fan 02-24-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8395892)
The Rams drafting offensive tackles seems to be kind of like the Chiefs drafting defensive linemen.

They need a ****ing LT just as bad as they as need a WR.

RealSNR 02-24-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8395905)
They need a ****ing LT just as bad as they as need a WR.

Are Jason Smith/Roger Saffold no longer options? Injuries have killed both of their careers?

I'm asking because I really don't know. I haven't heard how severe the damage was.

Rams Fan 02-24-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8395922)
Are Jason Smith/Roger Saffold no longer options? Injuries have killed both of their careers?

I'm asking because I really don't know. I haven't heard how severe the damage was.

Saffold's good, but is probably better suited for RT.

Smith would be better at G this point, and he might be cut if he doesn't renegotiate his contract. He also has had two concussions in three seasons, too.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2012 10:36 PM

Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Close
Per SI's Tony Pauline, #Rams have had "exploratory talks" with #Redskins involving the No. 2 pick in the draft


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