I kinda hope we don't. Blasphemy, I know.
 

Yeah, I think he can still play at a high level for a couple of years...but I'm not sure it's worth it.

I'll support it if it happens, but I'm uneasy about it.

First of all, this never works. Didn't work with Montana, Namath, Moon, Favre, etc. The aging warrior changing teams can make for a fun season (or not) but they never seem to take 'em to the SB. The only one I can think of in modern times is Kurt Warner, and he was literally on the scrap heap for a couple of years first.

I don't like tailoring an entire offense around ONE GUY who won't be here in three or four years. I don't like that it means we're starting over in 2014 or 15.

It'd be one thing if we were bringing in a quality QB to run our system, but we're going to scrap everything and run HIS system. Which will be scrapped in a couple of years also.

I'd rather try to trade up or sign an Orton and draft a Tannehill to try and build our own.

Take your stupid guitar and get the **** out

pssst......no more cassel

You shut you whore mouth!

Im just trying to figure out why you put Namath in with those other QBs you mentioned.
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Worked for Warner.

get the **** outta here dude

It's either cassel or him.

It worked with Montana. Well sort of worked. We were instant Super Bowl contenders, and Joe got us closer than we've been in the 40 years since we won the damn thing. Just because we came up just short with Joe doesn't mean it was a failure. Not at all.

Peyton Manning

I hate Peyton Manning and I hate his alma mater. I've spent literally half of my life defining myself as a Manning hater. It's a fundamental part of my identity.

**** YOUR NOISE, GIVE US MANNING.

Rather see the money go in Peytons pocket than Clarks

Johnny Unitas would approve this thread. Playing for the Chargers was an insult to his career. He just couldn't afford to retire.

This is the crux upon which the entire matter likely turns, unfortunately.

Good, possibly great or abject suck.

I think even I could make that decision.

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**** you

Scrap Dabols system that he has in place?
Scrap the GREAT system we have of using the checkdown on ever pass attempt?
Scrap the draw play on 3rd and 15?
Scrap the lack of audibles?
Scrap 3 and out?


You mean this offense that we run isn't worth scrapping?

That's my thoughts as well. I wouldn't be butt hurt if we got him, but I wouldn't be all ectatic either. More moot than anything. I so much rather pull the strings to get RGIII or even give Stanzi a shot at it. We can have a good look at next years QB class if we need too. Mostly I believe in drafting our own to reach Super Bowl glory.

I don't think acquiring Manning changes the direction of our team building. We're in line to upgrade our O line and we're in line to finish off our D with an interior d lineman. Those things aren't going to change if we get Manning.

If getting Manning were to cause the team to lose draft picks, I would be more on the fence about it. However, getting Manning is only really going to cost Clark Hunt money. Pioli can structure the contract so it won't put the team in cap hell, so at the end of the day I am on board with Clark having one less jumbo jet so the team can have an elite qb.

Exactly. It's a no-brainer. We know he isn't a long term fix, but at least he's an upgrade to the position, that has the potential to make a SB run. I'll take that over the crap we trotted out there for the past five years.

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That seems a little ****ing uncalled for.

We grieving fans have suffered too long through too many builds and rebuilds. Many of us are running out of patience.

Montana took us to the AFC Championship and almost to the promised land. It was the most fun we Chiefs fans had in decades. The Chiefs were fun to watch, got the respect they deserved, and we could hold our heads high. Isn't that what fans really want (short of a SB win of course)? Even if it would have set us back a few years afterward (which it didn't), it was very much worth it.

Since we have no QB. And no way to draft either of the top 2, signing Manning is the right move.
This team is ready to win now.

Montana is the problem. KC sniffed the Super Bowl pussy with Montana, and now after 20 years of blue balls the fans are desperate. The real answer isn't calling in some aged call girl with a nerve problem. They need to find the sexy young thing to the groom and bang for the next 12 years.

ROFL

But we have audibles. They're the audibles from New England's 2008 offense, but we've got 'em.

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:facepalm:

Creepy. Also dumb.

Too bad Peyton can't run up Oakland's penalities for a new high of jumping offsides

RIP Al Davis

I don't really want to go this direction either but you have to look at the options here.

If we don't take Manning, we'll sign Orton (or similar) and/or keep Cassel.

This franchise will not draft a legit QB, ever. They won't trade up to get RGIII, either.
It's our best/only option as far as I can see. If they get Manning, I'll be happy and hopeful. The Chiefs will be instant contenders with him if he stays healthy.

It's history repeating itself, basically. Let's hope the end of the story is a happier one.

Nobody should have any problem with Manning coming in, provided he's healthy and ready to go, of course. The one thing the Chiefs need to be sure to do is not give up on drafting a legit QB prospect this year or next.

ROFL The ****?

LMAO

I'm not sure Pioli or Crennel can groom a QBotF
They couldn't get Stanzi ready to play a single game

Didn't work with Montana? Signing Joe Montana was the best move this team has made in the last 40 years. We got one game away.

If you're telling me we could get one game away from the SB, I'll take it. In a one game playoff, anything can happen. We could simply outplay a team. Or it could be even and a fluky fumble puts us over top. Thing is, you have to get there 1st.

I get what you mean. I'll go along with the hype if we do get him because I am easily swayed, but I'm definitely not confident that he can play at a high level again.

This, 1000 times over.

Yes, it's not worth it. We could miss out on all those playoff appearances, playoff wins and winning seasons if this blows up in our face.

Some of you don't deserve to watch football.

A cognizant post from Okie...

Someone call hell and see if its cold.
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The Chiefs are the problem. They need to find the sexy young thing...

But they won't. They're just not going to do it.

So we're left hanging out at the bar at 2am hoping that some drunk 45-year old is wasted enough to go home with us.

NO I failed
it should have said, a single snap

:clap:

I'm really unsure of who you are talking about. Are we interested in a QB somewhere?

Or our kicker could actually make a field goal instead of whiffing it. Or we could make them punt at least once. Or our quarterback might not get knocked out of the game. Or our guard might not get called for holding when we make a long run to get in position for the winning field goal. Or our tight end won't be called out of bounds when he catches the game-deciding touchdown. Or the other team won't be all smeared up with cooking spray and salary cap violations.

There are any number of ways we could win a playoff game.

Henne.

Chad Henne

Ahhh... thanks. I'm Mad for Chad....

No, the Chiefs are settling on the 280 pound grenede that's friend with the hot blonde that we all would like to go home with.

Welcome to Avis. Do you have a reservation?

It's two more years of Casshole or two more years of Manning.

I'm going to stick my head in the sand rather than up my butt.

1 game away and 20 years of the same faulty thinking, and failure to go along with it.

This is actually better than the Montana situation, we don't have to give up the first round pick now, like we did to the 49ers.

That is the reason I am on board with it now.

Dana Stubblefield turned out to be a pretty good pick for them at our spot.

If there were a legitimate chance of that faulty thinking actually CHANGING, you might have a point.

We're not going to draft and develop our own QB. We're stuck using other teams' cast-offs.

Might as well get the one cast-off that gives us the best chance to win.

Team is built to win now.
Our tailored offense is below average right now.

Unless you land a tom brady in the draft our support players will be too old.

Another reason I hate cassel because he wastes the talent around him.

Didn't say it was the best possible senario. That would have been winning it all.

But copy the rest of my post. If you're telling me we could get to the AFC championship game, I'll take it. Like I said. Anything can happen.

And with Peyton, I think we could get there. What are our other options?

Luck? Off the board. RG3? Off the board. Tannahill? Going to spend a 1st on a project guy whose stock is elevated because of a weak QB class? Really? Particularly when next year is much stronger. He might be gone by the time we pick teams are so desperate for QBs.

You want Orton? He'll get us as far as Matt Cassel ever could. 1st round knock out.

What is a better option?

20 years of the same faulty thinking? Yeah we figured, Joe worked so well, might as well start Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, ignore Rich Gannon's success and let him take the Raiders to the promised land, sign Trent Green, draft Brodie Croyle, sign Damon Huard, Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko. All of those are the same thing as signing a HOF QB with a year or two left in the tank.

I don't think that is accurate at all. IMO Haley had his mind made up that Stanzi was not playing, he had a sick thing for Palko.
Crennel had a better option with Orton, that would help land him the job he was after. He would have played Stanzi if that was the best option IMO.

So you now want KC to draft T Richardson (regardless of Manning)?

A 36 year old Manning and a very young Ricky Stanzi is close to a perfect scenario for our qb situation.

I give us a better than 50% chance of getting the deal done.

If there wasn't a real possibility of this coming to fruition, Denver wouldnt even be in the picture.

this

Cassel-Gueterez-Palko
Anderson-Quinn-
I have no faith in the pair

We have very different ideas of "perfect."

I guess you can compare this to Montana and Favre with the Vikings but I wouldn't.

I think the Chiefs would be better than both of those teams, and better than the Kurt Warner Cardinals. And I think Manning would be better than creaky injured every other game Montana, definitely less mistake prone than Favre. Kurt Warner is debatable.

even Croyle regressed

edit: To be fair, McD couldn't do shit with Quinn either

Might as well. Things aren't gonna change.

My concerns
Manning will be gun shy about first few hits
Wherever he goes, no o-line like he once had
WONT HAVE COLTS TEAM CHEMISTRY
36
Out of a VERY physical/Fast game for a year
All QBs get their head pounded to turf @ least 3X a season
CRAZY EXPECTATIONS
Hes only as good as his new defense

This is slightly off-topic and, for that, I apologize.

But man, The Twilight Zone had some great actors in those days back in the day ...

A very young Robert Duvall is ripping it up right now via the magic of television reruns. They had Karl Malden awhile ago. And Dennis Hopper, too. Like real movie stars and stuff.

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Look what Montana did with a lack luster pass receiver core back then. We have a set young Offense, a good Offensive Line, Peyton would have a Running Game for the first time in his career with a healthy Charles. A Good Defense under their belts.
The NFL is set up in 2 year windows. Set yourself up for two year runs. We are set. The Chiefs have never and will never Draft a groom a QBOF. Take the best available at the time, that is Manning right now.
No excuses if the Chiefs don't get this Manning deal done, they aren't serious about winning. No Money Problems, no excuses.

All the years of this team being ridiculously under the salary cap, they owe us this one.

He has always shied away from contact.

And the Colts OL has never been that great. They were pretty good for a 3-4 year run during Manning's prime when they had Glenn, Saturday and Diem all playing at a high level, but the last 3 years or so, meh.

Chiefs were 5th in pass blocking efficiency last year. We get a new RT we're fine.

Please get it through your thick skulls, true fans.

I love the old black and white Twilight Zone episodes. Fantastic.

You guys are killing my Manning buzz.

I think Peyton opens the window that with the talent level we have with him, that we can draft his replacement. Generally those teams trading for the teams mentioned in the OP were not set up like the Chiefs are now. This is a solid team sans QB, NT, RT.

Without this play...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrio6WEgW0o

...it might have worked with Montana.

My dad used to curse Kimble Anders all the time because he dropped a TD pass in a big playoff game. I don't remember it though.

I know what you're saying, Mr. Chris Meck. In an ideal world, the Chiefs would commit to drafting and developing their own quarterback. It's what we need ... it's what we've always needed. But, for reasons inexplicable, this franchise just doesn't seem to believe in that approach.

We're in a tough spot now, though. The defense is good enough to win in the playoffs. And, I think we have sufficient talent on offense if we patch up a few things. Do we have the time to develop a guy before the window closes on key players? Probably not. And that's what makes this Manning opportunity so attractive.

The half-full part to me is that, should Manning come aboard and lead us deep into the playoffs and even, perhaps, to the Super Bowl, our young team would gain valuable experience and confidence that can pay dividends long after Manning's head is mounted over the bar.

With that in mind, I've decided to support this idea. I don't, however, believe deep in my heart that it will happen, though. Too many past disappointments have jaded my attitude toward this organization. Plus, Manning doesn't strike me as particularly neat and tidy.

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Dumbass

This.

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I just watched a couple of those reruns last night. The Twilight Zone episode couldn't have cost $8 to make. It all took place in this old cabin room, with a toy robot. Funny entertainment.