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Direckshun 03-08-2012 08:53 PM

I am REALLY trying not to get my hopes up, but the math is there.
 
Peyton Manning wants to win a Super Bowl, he wants a good supporting cast and a good organization that is itching for him to join.

The AFC East is going to be very difficult to win with Tom Brady. He's probably not terribly interested in sharing the city with his brother, and his personality would be like oil and vinegar with Rex Ryan and that awful locker room. The Jets don't have the cap space for him anyway.

The Dolphins make a ton of sense because Manning wouldn't have to unseat anybody, and they have plenty of cap room, a top LT, and a good enough supporting cast offensively. They've got warm climate, and they're close to a home of his. But again, the Dolphins are in the AFC East, and they are changing their defense to a 4-3, which is going to require a season at LEAST for transition. In other words, Manning will be reduced once again to having to win shootouts.

The Texans don't want him. The 49ers don't want him. They could both improve with him, but they're married to their QBs.

The Redskins are just a disasterous organization, with a shit supporting cast. They'd meet every demand he wants, but they're in an even tougher division than the AFC East; the NFC East. Three other playoff teams. Manning wants no part of the Redskins.

The Seahawks are another disasterous organization. They've got a phenomenal fanbase, but they're on the other side of the continent. That may literally be a bridge too far. They make a ton of questionable personnel moves, and they have some cap space to be competitive.

Same with the Cardinals. Although they've got a coaching staff that's probably more reliable than Pete Carroll. They're also a dome team, we can't overlook that.

But both the Seahawks and the Cardinals have iffy defenses, and bad offensive lines. Matter of fact, the Cardinals offensive line is disasterous -- they let their starting LT hit the market, and he'll get middling offers at best. The Seahawks have a great LT in Okung, but Okung is simply not durable. By contrast, Albert missed one whole snap last year.

Outside of Kansas City, the only organization that makes a ton of sense for Manning are the Donks. Sad to say. They've got a rabid fanbase, a good and improving defense, and a front office that, while overrated, will be comfortable enough to let Manning do whatever he wants. They have a very good offensive line, although their run game is vastly overrated.

The only conceivable problem you could have with Denver is... Tebow. Thank you again, Josh McDaniels. Tebow enlists to the same agency that Manning does, and he's the entrenched starter that the fanbase loves. The latest poll on MileHighReport.com, recorded that only 60% of the fanbase would welcome Manning. Most of them are on board with Tebow mania, and you gotta know that Manning doesn't want to get in the way of that phenomenon.

If Manning wants a fanbase completely behind him, a coaching staff that he can trust and will trust him, a front office that will move heaven and earth to build the roster at killer prices (which will only get better with Manning on board), a potentially lethal run game, a great set of receivers (with room enough for Wayne -- Crennel would bring out Baldwin anyway in multiple WR sets), a need for a center in Jeff Saturday, we'll draft a tackle in the first round this year giving us two first-round talents bookending an already good line, a community similar to Indy, a soft division that all but guarantees a playoff run, a great and improving defense with two passrushers, an intense run defense and elite secondary, and more money than Manning would get anywhere else.......

The math seems to be in favor of Kansas City.

I'm doing the best I can to repress my long lost optimism. But it's getting much, much harder.

NJChiefsFan 03-08-2012 08:55 PM

Odds are it would take time for Miami, but HOU did switch over pretty smoothly last season from one defense to another.

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-08-2012 08:55 PM

Forget it. The dude doing the Purdue vs. Nebraska bb game just said his top 3 predictions for Manning are Miami, Miami and then Miami.

It's over man................... it's over.

007 03-08-2012 08:58 PM

Miami has a shit ton more talent in their fin than we have in our entire organization. The media doesn't lie.

Bugeater 03-08-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever (Post 8431054)
Forget it. The dude doing the Purdue vs. Nebraska bb game just said his top 3 predictions for Manning are Miami, Miami and then Miami.

It's over man................... it's over.

Why in the blue hell were you watching that atrocity?

FAX 03-08-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever (Post 8431054)
Forget it. The dude doing the Purdue vs. Nebraska bb game just said his top 3 predictions for Manning are Miami, Miami and then Miami.

It's over man................... it's over.

Maybe so ...

The beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX informed me, just this evening, that Manning would wind up going to Miami. I have no idea where she got that idea, but she seems utterly confident in her prediction.

Nobody loves us, man.

FAX

Direckshun 03-08-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8431051)
Odds are it would take time for Miami, but HOU did switch over pretty smoothly last season from one defense to another.

Houston had a world class defensive coordinator and a great coaching staff.

Miami, meh.

mlyonsd 03-08-2012 09:01 PM

If you sit back and look at it from Manning's POV we really are the best choice if playing in the SB is what you really are looking for.

Direckshun 03-08-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8431069)
Miami has a shit ton more talent in their fin than we have in our entire organization. The media doesn't lie.

ITS A ****ING DOLPHIN

WEARING A HELMET

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-08-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8431070)
Why in the blue hell were you watching that atrocity?

Watching it and having it on and ignoring it mostly while I peruse CP are very different my friend.

DTLB58 03-08-2012 09:03 PM

Houston don't want him? What did I miss and when?

Direckshun 03-08-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 8431082)
Houston don't want him? What did I miss and when?

Houston wins the AFC last year if Schaub stays healthy.

They're married to Schaub.

As they should be.

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-08-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8431071)
Maybe so ...

The beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX informed me, just this evening, that Manning would wind up going to Miami. I have no idea where she got that idea, but she seems utterly confident in her prediction.

Nobody loves us, man.

FAX

Well we're hard to love. I have a feeling about Arizona for some reason, even in the face of reports he wants to stay in the AFC. Reports like that often mean exactly nothing in the end.

tk13 03-08-2012 09:06 PM

The thing is there are probably factors at play that none of us, or the media, will ever think of... just based on whatever personal whims Manning might have. Maybe he wants to play in a warm weather city to keep his neck and arm from being stiff in the cold too much. Maybe that doesn't matter at all. It's entirely possible he doesn't care about being in the AFC East. People keep bringing that up... but forget he spent the first part of his career in the AFC East before the Colts were moved.

Gravedigger 03-08-2012 09:06 PM

This thread needs a Gif of Archer beating Pam over the head while she's crying saying "F*** your dolphin!"

Hammock Parties 03-08-2012 09:08 PM

I think it's going to come down to money. If the Dolphins pay him more, he'll be in Miami.

Direckshun 03-08-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8431094)
I think it's going to come down to money. If the Dolphins pay him more, he'll be in Miami.

We can pay him more. There's no question about that.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-08-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8431094)
I think it's going to come down to money. If the Dolphins pay him more, he'll be in Miami.

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mnchiefsguy 03-08-2012 09:16 PM

Peyton has a ton of money....but his brother has more rings than he does. This is about a ring, and whichever team has the best shot at getting to a Superbowl in the AFC will get the nod. The money just has to be respectable, he is not going to play for the vet minimum.

Saulbadguy 03-08-2012 09:18 PM

Play the Pats, Jets and Bills twice a year or the Broncos, Chargers and Raiders twice a year?

the Talking Can 03-08-2012 09:18 PM

do people realize that these elaborate fan fantasies have exactly dick to do with whatever is going on in peyton's brain?

NJChiefsFan 03-08-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8431080)
ITS A ****ING DOLPHIN

WEARING A HELMET

Safety first.

RealSNR 03-08-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 8431091)
This thread needs a Gif of Archer beating Pam over the head while she's crying saying "F*** your dolphin!"

I think she peed!

RealSNR 03-08-2012 09:22 PM

I forgot how funny this show is. I need to catch the repeat of the new episode tonight at 10

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O.city 03-08-2012 09:23 PM

I think a positive for KC, is something that Holthus actually talked about (i know i know).


He said he has had conversations with Manning about the football culture in KC. Manning said this is the way football is supposed to be, in relation to the fan support.

I guarantee that Arrowhead would be 90's style again if this were to actually happen and work out.

FAX 03-08-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8431117)
do people realize that these elaborate fan fantasies have exactly dick to do with whatever is going on in peyton's brain?

I think you're onto something there, Mr. the Talking Can.

Our wild speculations have nothing to do with how, when, or why Manning will make his final decision. Unless he believes that teal is a terrible color on him and clashes with his eyes.

FAX

notorious 03-08-2012 09:24 PM

Peyton's wife is going to have the most influence on his decision.


We're ****ed.

RealSNR 03-08-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8431140)
Peyton's wife is going to have the most influence on his decision.


We're ****ed.

"Peyton honey does Fiji have an NFL team?"

notorious 03-08-2012 09:34 PM

I remember reading a Sports Illustrated article back when he was drafted.


It opened with a story about him moving into his new apartment in Indy, and how he called his girlfriend and told her his TV wasn't working.


She came to his place and screwed the cable into the back of the TV. :D

This man knows nothing BUT football.

Stanley Nickels 03-08-2012 09:35 PM

My wife's top 5 are, in order: Chiefs, Browns, Saints, Bears and Bengals.

Granted, she knows nothing about football, but I'm kinda impressed she can even name five. Ima put a baby in that tonight, I think.

007 03-08-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8431080)
ITS A ****ING DOLPHIN

WEARING A HELMET

loaded with talent

FAX 03-08-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 8431176)
My wife's top 5 are, in order: Chiefs, Browns, Saints, Bears and Bengals.

Granted, she knows nothing about football, but I'm kinda impressed she can even name five. Ima put a baby in that tonight, I think.

ROFL

FAX

Carlota69 03-08-2012 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8431140)
Peyton's wife is going to have the most influence on his decision.


We're ****ed.

Well, since he's a complete man whore, what city has the hottest women? Miami? Then she says no to South Beach:)

In58men 03-08-2012 09:39 PM

Can the "M" on the dolphins head represent Manning?

Psyko Tek 03-08-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8431051)
Odds are it would take time for Miami, but HOU did switch over pretty smoothly last season from one defense to another.

i have always believed houston
and they get to beat tyhe colts twice a yaear
he is warm weather qb
maybe az
if he feels for irsay and wants to be out of afc
BUT
he does not wanna **** his brother




still feeling houston
the real question is
is he after another sb ofr money?

aturnis 03-08-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8431085)
Houston wins the AFC last year if Schaub stays healthy.

They're married to Schaub.

As they should be.

Exactly. Ditching schaub for Manning would be incredibly short sighted on their part.

Anyong Bluth 03-08-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8431664)
Exactly. Ditching schaub for Manning would be incredibly short sighted on their part.

Noo one ever says that while they're wearing their Super Bowl ring.

FAX 03-08-2012 11:47 PM

God ... can you imagine having a quarterback talented enough and with sufficient potential that he allows you to pass on even the consideration of acquiring Manning?

Why us, man? Why is it always us? Other teams make me sick.

FAX

NJChiefsFan 03-08-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8431704)
God ... can you imagine having a quarterback talented enough and with sufficient potential that he allows you to pass on even the consideration of acquiring Manning?

Why us, man? Why is it always us? Other teams make me sick.

FAX

Chiefs usually make me the most sick.

Chief_For_Life58 03-09-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8431664)
Exactly. Ditching schaub for Manning would be incredibly short sighted on their part.

I want to say houston makes sense but when their over the cap and cant resign mario, how are they going to sign peyton and his pals?

Its either miami or kc. he already knows. I think were in for a ****ing AWESOME 2012 chief fans

aturnis 03-09-2012 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8431735)
I want to say houston makes sense but when their over the cap and cant resign mario, how are they going to sign peyton and his pals?

Its either miami or kc. he already knows. I think were in for a ****ing AWESOME 2012 chief fans

Miami makes zero sense.

Would Peyton really want to play for a rookie HC? Miami is switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defense, and letting Soliai walk in the process. This makes them a worse team. Chiefs have a much better team, period.

NJChiefsFan 03-09-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8431807)
Miami makes zero sense.

Would Peyton really want to play for a rookie HC? Miami is switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defense, and letting Soliai walk in the process. This makes them a worse team. Chiefs have a much better team, period.

I don't think you can say zero sense. Next to KC, MIA has the most talent out of the teams going for him, they will go for him hard, and have warm weather in a place where he lives.

Hell, maybe he does want to take down Brady in is own division. I doubt it, but who really knows. If there is something he doesn't like about KC then MIA has all of that plus being the most talent out there.

Joe Seahawk 03-09-2012 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8431040)
The Chiefs are another disasterous organization. They've got a phenomenal fanbase, but they haven't won a playoff game in nearly 2 decades. That may literally be a bridge too far. They make a ton of questionable personnel moves, and they have some cap space to be competitive.
.

Fixed your post..

Direckshun 03-09-2012 09:06 AM

Anybody else getting the sense that it's Denver or Kansas City?

Wow. Talk about it all coming down to a rivalry.

Hammock Parties 03-09-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8432199)
Anybody else getting the sense that it's Denver or Kansas City?

Wow. Talk about it all coming down to a rivalry.

Now Pioli's ass is on the line double.

He lets the Donks get Manning, we get ****ed twice a year and he moves even closer to closing out his tenure here in a pitiful manner.

Rain Man 03-09-2012 11:11 AM

I'm so stoked about this. Manning is coming to Kansas City. I can just feel it. There's no better place for him to be.

Dr. Gigglepants 03-09-2012 11:26 AM

Have we shown Manning the "From the 50 Anything is Possible" marketing material yet? Get on it Donovan!
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Nightfyre 03-09-2012 11:35 AM

Initially I hated the idea of Manning coming to KC. But now, I am starting to warm up to the idea that he could bring us a super bowl. I think if we get Manning, we should also draft RG3, however. RG3 has the work ethic and intelligence to learn behind Manning, imo. Even if we don't get RG3, we cannot exit the Manning Era without a QBOTF.

lcarus 03-09-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8432775)
Initially I hated the idea of Manning coming to KC. But now, I am starting to warm up to the idea that he could bring us a super bowl. I think if we get Manning, we should also draft RG3, however. RG3 has the work ethic and intelligence to learn behind Manning, imo. Even if we don't get RG3, we cannot exit the Manning Era without a QBOTF.

Peyton Manning AND trading up for RGIII? That's a big wish list man.

Nightfyre 03-09-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8432799)
Peyton Manning AND trading up for RGIII? That's a big wish list man.

Dream big!

carlos3652 03-09-2012 11:53 AM

So - I think the donks are interested in Manning for 2 reasons:

a) to have a Great Qb

b) if they can't get him - they want to drive the price sky high (so at least if he does come to KC, we over paid ridiculously making it hard to sign other free agents in the short term and the long term?)

If I was a GM with a quarter back that is set - I would still be *interested* to drive the price up if nothing else to ensure that whoever got him, payed out there ass to do so...

Direckshun 03-09-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 8432845)
So - I think the donks are interested in Manning for 2 reasons:

a) to have a Great Qb

b) if they can't get him - they want to drive the price sky high (so at least if he does come to KC, we over paid ridiculously making it hard to sign other free agents in the short term and the long term?)

If I was a GM with a quarter back that is set - I would still be *interested* to drive the price up if nothing else to ensure that whoever got him, payed out there ass to do so...

Elway's not playing games here. Elway wants Manning.

Rasputin 03-09-2012 12:17 PM

Good ****ing grief Charlie Brown, on NFL network the bottom ticker kept reading about Miami Dolphins with the best chance & mentions a few other teams but nothing about Chiefs.

I think this could represent the Chiefs fans if Pioli doesn't get the deal done for Peyton Manning.

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carlos3652 03-09-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8432875)
Elway's not playing games here. Elway wants Manning.

I realize that, what I'm saying though is that if he doesn't get him, it's still a small win - as he will make us payoff getting him anyway.

Direckshun 03-09-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8432902)
Good ****ing grief Charlie Brown, on NFL network the bottom ticker kept reading about Miami Dolphins with the best chance & mentions a few other teams but nothing about Chiefs.

I think this could represent the Chiefs fans if Pioli doesn't get the deal done for Peyton Manning.

They only source that YOU KNOW you can trust is Schefter.

Schefter says Miami's out.

It's us, Denver, or Arizona.

L.A. Chieffan 03-09-2012 12:24 PM

:hmmm: maybe we can get tebow is he goes to denver

htismaqe 03-09-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8432902)
Good ****ing grief Charlie Brown, on NFL network the bottom ticker kept reading about Miami Dolphins with the best chance & mentions a few other teams but nothing about Chiefs.

They were still talking about Seattle and Washington this morning.

I have been watching NFLN over ESPN for the past 8 months but I just can't watch it anymore. They're awful.

Okie_Apparition 03-09-2012 12:30 PM

Getting any news out of Arrowhead is like getting a 300 yard game out of Cassel
there's nothing real to talk about

vailpass 03-09-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8432775)
Initially I hated the idea of Manning coming to KC. But now, I am starting to warm up to the idea that he could bring us a super bowl. I think if we get Manning, we should also draft RG3, however. RG3 has the work ethic and intelligence to learn behind Manning, imo. Even if we don't get RG3, we cannot exit the Manning Era without a QBOTF.

ROFL

Rasputin 03-09-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8432775)
Initially I hated the idea of Manning coming to KC. But now, I am starting to warm up to the idea that he could bring us a super bowl. I think if we get Manning, we should also draft RG3, however. RG3 has the work ethic and intelligence to learn behind Manning, imo. Even if we don't get RG3, we cannot exit the Manning Era without a QBOTF.

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sedated 03-09-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8431085)
Houston wins the AFC last year if Schaub stays healthy.

They're married to Schaub.

As they should be.

Isn't there some question about Schuab coming back 100% from lisfranc?

Rain Man 03-09-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8432875)
Elway's not playing games here. Elway wants Manning.

Manning is a football fan. He would refuse to play for elway just to get revenge for the colts.

vailpass 03-09-2012 12:48 PM

So do you guys think that after KC signs Manning that Peyton will sign off on the Chiefs drafting RGIII or will he insist they go all-in and move up to get Luck?

RealSNR 03-09-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8433036)
So do you guys think that after KC signs Manning that Peyton will sign off on the Chiefs drafting RGIII or will he insist they go all-in and move up to get Luck?

Ya totly that way maning will be able 2 groom rg3

Dave Lane 03-10-2012 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever (Post 8431054)
Forget it. The dude doing the Purdue vs. Nebraska bb game just said his top 3 predictions for Manning are Miami, Miami and then Miami.

It's over man................... it's over.

Miami has a very ****ed up front office and they are in the AFC East Huge difference.


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