Pioli obviously has a bad reputation
 

Everyone knows this guy came in here thinking he was the next savior, He obviosly believed it himself and his ego has been put into place with the less then stellar decisions he's made with the draft, signings, secretive ways etc.. is an embarrassment to this organization...

Mannning won't even give him the time of day.. sad for the club that started the AFL.....

Clark better man up and get rid of this(metaphor)ing (Slang)hole...

Its sure starting to seem that way.


Cleared all this cap space and no one of any significance signs? Its either, 1 Pioli is NOT liked or 2. They are that cheap.

I think this is all BS.

This is the problem with the Haley hiring and firing.

This is the problem with promoting Romeo to HC - it sent the wrong message. I think if we hard hired a big time, big name HC, we wouldn't have this problem.

We are a sad organization. Too bad the media doesn't see this, everybody that's not a chief doesn't see this. He needs to be exposed.

sigh..

The thing is they talk abou tthe Chiefs are a historic franchise and we really arent. We havent done a DAMNED thing since what Jan of 1970?

I think the only freaking way the Chiefs can pull out of this mess is if we have something like Tom Brady. I dont se eany other way out.

The Babb article we a very long way to exposing the general dysfunction. Hell, Whitlock was writing about this in '09; we just didn't want to believe it then.

ya, Pioli is the reason they fell ass backwards into Tom Brady and got a mastermind head coach, ya, Pioli is executive of the year! WIPPIE!!

pioli did nothing wrong. we're going to be fine without that broke dick qb

As I said ad nauseum this isn't all Pioli. Clark has a reputation of being cheap and shows no commitment to win. Clark knows what is going on and allows it to go on. If Clark didn't like it he could stop it any time he wants but he hasn't.

Clark is the one that said to win you need a franchise QB and his main goal was to go get one. That really hasn't worked out so well.

Let's just be honest the problem with this team is the Hunt family. They really just need to sell it.

So much hope with Pioli. blah

He can go **** a jar of grape jelly
then shove his purple cock in a lightsocket
If he sticks with Cassel another year

How can he? he's not the one that drafts. I highly ****ing doubt that Clark says, DONT draft a QB. I dont want this team being a winner!

All the twitter users on here need to tweet and retweet the statement: "Clark Hunt will never raise the trophy that bears his father's name above his head."

Make the management respond to the fans dissatisfaction. If ownership just ignores it, then make sure players for other teams get the message; make sure free agents get the message (Manning sure did); make sure the media picks up on the message. Make sure it is trending. Put the pressure on the front office. In short, humiliate them.

I don't buy that for a second. He is the head of this franchise he sets the tone and the vision. In fairness to Clark maybe he thinks Cassel is the franchise QB and if that is true we are ****ed.

mother****er our organization is such a piece of shit. the only things that makes me not want to kill myself is our 70' ring, dt, and 88.

I want a new owner

clark did nothing wrong either. he tried to get peyton and so did 30 other teams. do all their owners suck too?

Arrowhead Anxiety. Todd Haley hired by the Steelers. Gretz talking about micro-managing Haley all the way from Dallas. I believe Gretz mentioned that at the senior bowl(?), every team knew. Mentions of Pioli running on the treadmill reading stories about him. Plenty of stories of KC pretty impolitely denying access to the facilities, to information... hell, Pioli didn't even interview or respond to Arrowhead Anxiety.

And now it's possible that Peyton Manning may sign on the dotted line without ever visiting the team that has the best situation for him.
This has a lot more to do than just Romeo. If Peyton doesn't visit the Chiefs, it's pretty clear that he has no respect for our front office. Which is sad, because apparently he has respect for Bud Adams.

Wrong. And...Well it's not worth my time to explain it.

Did Clark really try though or did he just say that. How does peyton turn down a free offer to visit with a team? THATS HIS BEST ****ING OPTION!!! not to mention his baller agent ummmm played for the q ueefs for 10 years and had his business in kc so im sure condon is fully aware of what we have to offer. wtf.

How do you know he tried? Just because he made a statement to appease the gullible fans?

And listen I am not saying Pioli doesn't share the blame in this because obviously he does. I honestly hate Pioli right now more than I ever hated Carl. But as they say be careful what you wish for you might actually get it.

It sure seems like it's a match of two personalities who make each other worse. We heard Clark Hunt wanted to install a Goldman Sachs type environment, which I think is entirely possible. And Pioli's reputation for secrecy is not anything new.

Neither were this bad in their previous stints. It seems like we just matched the wrong 2 guys together.

if you dont like being a chiefs fan than be a fan of whatever team peyton signs with so you can jiggle that owners nuts in your mouth...

bye...

"Bring back Carl" thread in 3...2...1...
LMAO

How the **** are you in the green........ever?

maybe he doesnt like fair weather fans that freak out on the FO

Wow... Clark hasn't spent a dime this free agency - hasn't gotten any big FA's because..... Free Agency hasn't even started yet... God - wait till free agency is over - or all the big names are signed before talking out of your ass... Jesus...

I've been wondering that myself. It's amazing. I guess I need to start using my neg. Never have, but got to start sometime.
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Fantasy football & Madden "Franchise" Mode has changed the world.

Yep. And what I haven't really figured out is that the Hunt family has always been kind and respectful to Peyton. He has been here many times for the 101 banquet heck he just spent the whole day here in KC not too long ago and Mitch Holthus was with him the whole time.

Well duh...

1. Chiefs have the cap space to sign Manning and then some
2. Kansas City is clearly the best option (besides HOU) to win another SB given the talent that would surround him on offense and the defense that would come with it.

3. Great fanbase. Not that it really matters - but his signing would be Joe Montana v 2.0, this city would explode with excitement, and ST sales would skyrocket, so for Clark, there wouldn't be ANY reason not to give Manning the coin to come play here, it would more than pay for itself I would think at least.

4. Playing for a player's coach that delegates pretty much everything to his asst coaches on offense. Given Manning's credentials as a badass mother****er at QB, this would pretty much open the playbook for anything he would want to do.

5. Weather isn't great in Decemberin KC. But this is football and it's not like it's GB or BUF, he's a gamer, I mean he's strongly considering DEN for crying out loud, so it can't be that big of an issue, if at all.


SO.......that means there are really only 2 options left:

1. Clark/Pioli never made a real effort to get Manning, and played it off like they did. And for Clark that would be just ****ing stupid as hell on his part but whatever. Such a move would only further prove that he doesn't give 2 shits about winning a SB. This is a guy that took away salaries from the people that were making $20-30k a year on the admin side of things during the lockout. This is a guy that will charge tickets to vets that served in the US military industrial complex and risked their lives when they were honored before a game, if they wanted to stay and watch. This is a guy that also too away privileges for the workers to come in and watch the game after they were done ticket punching/scanning etc. So yes, it is possible that Clark/Pioli really is THAT cheap.

2. In addition to #1....Pioli is a egotistical ****tard who still has his nose up NE's ass. Peyton may just want to stay away from that. Rightfully so....I would too. This is equivalent to you getting a job offer out of state for a shit ton of money, but would have to work for someone you absolutely can't stand, or you could take the lesser amount of coin somewhere else and be a lot happier working for someone you like. Personally I know what I'd rather do. There has been word spreading around the league about how SS gestapo this franchise is ran now. Makes players not want to come here....can't say I blame them.

And for the record - I think Pioli has done an adequate job with the franchise other than the QB - and even then, there hasn't been much better in the last 3 years in FA that could have gotten us a franchise or elite qb....

The team has the key players outside the qb (most important I know) and his contracts have been cap friendly and reasonable. Once we have a qb - I feel confident he will continue to sign and find playmakers through the draft, to make us Super Bowl contenders year in and year out. My 2 cents

Maybe Peyton holds a grudge against Pioli because of his tenure in NE.

2 losing seasons and 1 season w/ a coach that knew what the **** he was doing....and boy we sure handled that well.....so well that we were all sold on the fact that he went to Florida for family issues, not because of his riff w/ Haley/Pioli...then comes back to the KC area only a couple seasons later to coach one of the worst football programs known to man ROFL.

Or maybe KC is just a shitbag team that no one wants to play for.

What I don't get is. Why was Clark on CNBC, not a sports network. As much as I hate to say it. I hope this blows up in their face.
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I don't buy that for one second, and neither should you.

Kansas City ain't no Shangra-La.

No getting around that.

Isn't it ironic to hear how good the the Chiefs are & why the Chiefs are such a good fit for Manning, & then the same people say how horrible our GM is?

Been saying this. Manning might have the opinion NE is and was a nasty cheating franchise.

Why?

Well that makes us even: I don't buy any of your theories. :thumb:

I must have missed the news that FA started early...

Why would Manning care what Pioli did in New England?

I must have missed the news where Peyton Manning stopped in for a ****in visit.

I don't know. Once a cheat always a cheat?

Seriously? You should spend less time in your dutch oven. It's warping your sense of reality.:p

OK, all this talk about Pioli being the reason Manning won't visit, and it's due to our bad reputation; again, is that what happened in Seattle as well? Or all these other teams that he's refusing to visit? After all, at least 12 teams contacted his agent once he became available, and he only visited 2, and is only talking to two others.

At the end of the day, dude just wants to go play for either Elway or for Whisenhunt, and Elway has more money and will bring in his buddies.

The biggest issue this or other organizations who would like to talk to Manning have is that we don't have one of Manning's buddies in charge. Oh well. Let's develop our own damn QB for once instead of going after someone else's leftovers...

Yet you're trying to make assumptions that the reason Manning not coming to KC is because Pioli was w/ NE those years they knocked Manning out of the playoffs time and time again. That's just silly as **** and you know it.

Seattle is nowhere near a SB contender like KC is w/ Manning at QB. Not even close. That team has problems everywhere.

If Manning is the competitor that we all think he is, and wants to win another SB before he retires, there's 2 teams that are above all else in terms of the best path to get there.

HOU - Indoors, lots of talent, weakass division, great young defense.
KC - Lots of talent, weakass division, great young defense, could offer more $$ than HOU

PIOLI 2012!!!

Just circling the drain for two more years....nothing to see here.

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This

Sure it's just speculation, but we're all doing it. If Manning just hates all things Patriot. Thinks they were cheaters. I think that would affect his interest in going to a team GMd by the assistant GM of those days, and coached by the DC of those days.

What haven't you being paying attention? The media has exposed the Chiefs. That is the reason Manning isn't going to come to the Chiefs. per Chiefsplanet.

Seattle has won a playoff game recently. How about the Chiefs?

I have hope (might be a fools hope) but hope that Cassel will not be the starter this year.

Some of you people really need to get laid.

ROFL During a 7-9 season, I'm sorry, but even the NFC West won't be that atrocious on a yearly basis.

Pioli needs to get laid by an 800 pound gorilla with AIDS.

Thats my question. It has to be the FO. Thats all I can say. Everything else is right here. Shits got to be a an "ENRON" to work for.

Are you implying that SEA has as good or just as good weapons as KC based off of fraud 7-9 division title? ROFL

And didn't the Chiefs hang 40 on SEA that season....AT THEIR PLACE????

I guess I'm failing to see the connection here....please explain how SEA would be a better fit.

Hell other than Earl Thomas and Marshawn Lynch...I don't know of any players on that team that are worth a shit.

It is disappointing that even Miami and Tenn have been granted interviews. Dolphins are a circus with the clown owner Ross while Bud Adams belongs to the museum much less in the NFL.

Im really going to try and not worry about this manning ordeal. Weve still got good players, alot of cap, a draft in a month or so, and a lot of things can happen. this offseason and season is going to determine my stance on pioli once and for all. i think its make or break for him. and ****ing clark too. I still go to bed and pray to baby jesus every night that stanzi is the next montana.

Yet they knocked off the defending champions while the Chiefs collectively shit down their own leg at home.

Is that Dan "Somoan Power" Saleamua in your avatar???

You sir, deserve a gold star.

What about that guy that kept saying

P
H
M

???

**** yea it is. beast.

Ah got it.....I bet Peyton Manning is thinking "Hey you guys played a great game that one time in 2010 against the Saints and even though you're dogshit now and have virtually no players that are worth a damn, that game alone definitely has me convinced otherwise."


Do you read your posts?

Orton didn't even want us to claim him on waivers.

We fire Todd Haley mid season and the Pittsburgh Steelers hire him (after forcing their OC to "retire")

Manning looked at the Titans as a better option for him.

All he has done is bring in NE tree castoff after castoff...This draft will prove whether the strong drafts were him or Phil Emery.

One things for sure...if we bomb the draft and the Bears draft is good...we can probably fire Pioli right at that moment.

I swear, mark my words, Ricky Stanzi will probably save Piolis job in KC.

He couldn't out-play Tyler-freaking-Palko.

And let me emphasize outplay. Because, IMO, it seemed that Palko has at least half the brain and testicles to play QB, but has none of the physical tools to do so.

But somehow, a guy who couldn't beat the worst noodle arm since Captain Checkdown, will become a starter in the next seven months and lead KC to a winning record because that is one of the few ways Pioli can keep his job...?

Wouldn't buy that with five days worth of house money in Vegas there, chief.

Yes I do but continue to Q_Q

This team isn't as good as we'd like to think it is, but posts are flying non-stop that we're some sort of juggernaut? Get the **** out of here.

i kind of agree with you except for the ****ing facts that we were 2 blocked field goals from winning the division without 3 of our best players and our shitty qb half way through the season. Did you know any of this? glad i could update you

and Denver won it with a joke pretending to be a QB. Hey we almost did it, but we didn't win a joke of a division last year and we've got the shit pounded out of us by lots of good teams....but we're so much better than these other teams!

Ask fans from the other teams and they all have excuses too. Point is we're a mediocre team too, but we also are dealing with a cheap owner and a batshit insane General Manager.

thats a good point. id say a tad above mediocre though. just so im not completely depressed

The starting lineup has some good talent, but damn does the depth on this team suck.

You're failing to realize that this team would be MUCH better with a better QB.

This team won 10 games with a bunch of talent surrounding a fraud of a QB.

Imagine what Manning would do to elevate the play of these players. Remember what Montana did to the mediocre talent that was here on offense. Look at what Favre was able to do in Minnesota his first year there.

It's those types of QB's that players will do everything they possibly can to play at the highest possible level for the guy. I believe he'd do that here w/ the Chiefs.

SEA simply doesn't have the weapons....on either side of the ball.

If Todd Haley played Orton instead of Palko....we wouldn't even be having this discussion......The Chiefs make the playoffs last year and your argument wouldn't amount to shit. (to be honest it doesn't either way).

Am I saying we're a juggernaut? Not at the moment....we're missing a key ingredient and it happens to be the most important position on the entire team. Probably in all of team sports. Put Manning in, and we're instant SB contenders. It's not up for discussion.....just like when Montana signed, except we have more talent on offense now than we did then. Obviously not as strong of a defense because that team was damn good on defense....but they're one of the best defensive units the 2nd half of the season and were building on it. That was without Berry...a probowl safety.

Now we probably won't resign Carr....that's a loss no doubt....but I would like to think that he'd sign if Peyton Manning came here....usually signings like that tend to have a positive domino effect in FA.....like maybe getting Paul Soliai as a NT, getting a true NT for once.

The Chiefs didn't make the playoffs last year, so spin it any way you'd like!

Manning is going to elevate the play of the players wherever he goes.

Any team will be MUCH better with a better QB, so what's your ****ing point?