Would you consider the offseason FA period a success for the Chiefs?
 

With the additions of Routt, Hillis, Boss, and now Winston; do you consider this a successful offseason thus far?


If no...who else would we need to sign (realistically) in order for you to consider it a success?

Missed out on Manning and Soliai which really burns my ass IMO right now KC is breaking even thus far at best.

Looks good sofar. If we only had a better than suck QB

Yes. Filled every hole except QB and NT but to be fair there isn't much out there on either side besides maybe a guy like Garay.

M.r. bobble head manning is no big loss. He will not even finish the season.

Lets get past all the bs that gose on around here about cassel.Hes serviceable
no matter what any of you say. There are alot more worse.

I wasn't going to until we signed Quinn. A+ on this side of the fence.

No. With the cap space we had, to end up with only 1 upgrade seems like a waste. And our QB is still named Matt Cassel.

Seems Clark has succeeded in lowering expectations. After 4 years of doing exactly nothing, we sign one big name and our fan base is ready for a parade.

I'd give it a solid B, Soliai would've bumped it to A+

CB Stanford Routt
RB Peyton Hillis
TE Kevin Boss
OT Eric Winston
QB Brady Quinn

That's a selective, intelligent, careful fleshing out of the roster for a bargain at every position except Winston.

This is an A-.

A solid, useful defensive player would complete a successful FA period IMO. There are a couple starting ILBs still out there and they're obviously not going to get major coin. There's no reason one shouldn't be a Chief, and that would allow them TRUE flexibility in the draft (other than needing a legit QB and NT at some point this century).

So, it's a success.

They already have an AllPro ILB and a solid, young, ascending "thumper. Don't see the need TBH.

Obviously meant another, not the 1 signed to replace a better player, equating to no uggrades from last year (and a net loss thus far).

Belcher is a weak link. 3rd ILB to play a role is fine for him.

If Cassel got traded or cut followed by Pioli saying he realizes KC is a QB away, I would consider this offseason is good as it could possibly get. I could be very happy with a Quinn/Stanzi season if we knew Pioli had his mind dead set on fixing that position.

Is this English? :spock:

His mouth is too filled with poop and his head too filled with rocks.

What is your goal, for us to win a SB or not have the "worst" QB? Check out the SB's the past 8 plus yrs. Serviceable doesn't do it. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Agreed.

Belcher has taken a step up with each succeeding season.

He's progressing at pace similar to Brandon Carr progress at CB, yet like Brandon Carr, there's always some dumbass that thinks we need to upgrade.

I agree with Direckshun.

This is the way you should use free agency.

Build your core through the draft and find key role players in free agency.

But we still need to fix the QB position.

Routt is a downgrade at corner. Not convinced Hillis wants to play football. Winston and Boss are good signings. Add Mike Tolbert and you have a pretty good haul. Its all trumped by a fail at bringing in a real QB.

Those who are worse should be backups, like Matt Cassel should be a backup. He is not serviceable. He doesn't get the ball to his receivers where they can get extra yardage. He goes from primary receiver to check down with no progressions between. He has a weak arm with no deep ball. He cannot move his protections to cut down on sacks. Not even close to serviceable.

Too early to tell. Plenty of time left in FA. I like it so far.

I am glad they signed Hillis for only a year... I am not convinced that he wants to play football anymore either, but I do think he wants to be paid following next season.

I'm starting to think it may well be possible for Tannehill to fall to us in the first, and there are still opportunites to get another qb. If Stanzi is not progressing as we hope, or its possible to get someone to replace Quinn I think you do it. The Decastro option will always be there. I think they will take another qb somewhere in the draft.

It must be viewed as a success. Not only did we sign depth and starters, the reports are that all of our injured players are coming back.

The only thing that really got boned is Routt over Carr, but I dont see how the team can be worse off overall.

Exactly... FA ain't over yet.

I really think you have to be smart in free agency by not going overboard.

I'd like to pick up Geoff Schwartz after these signings, but I wouldn't want to do much beyond that.

And if we do nothing else, I still think this free agency period has been a successful one.

Great period. Filled some serious holes for basically peanuts.


Pioli has done a great job trimming the fat so to speak of the roster.


Two years ago our 53 player was someone like Mays. Now it's possibly Andy Studebaker, who is a great special teams/role player.


Pretty solid job/

LMAO

You ****ing Domer Homer.

Is Cassel still the quarterback? Then no.

Exactly. Whatever he has left, he's gonna be all in for that next contract. And It's hard for me to believe that he won't give us more than Jones did last season.

I'm looking forward to seeing a Hillis meets (insert ILB) in the hole after getting a 4 yard headstart.

I would have to say yes although I am still upset over the loss of Carr. At least we got Routt to somewhat offset his loss. If we would get a NT and possibly Tolbert then I would say this FA period is a huge success. To me Manning won't come to KC for reasons that are his own and may or may not have to do with Pioli. So unless he comes out and says it I have to assume we never were really in the running for Manning

This is a one season opportunity to revive his NFL career. If this season goes like the last, he may not get another chance. He'll be motivated for sure.

You can say that about all of our free agents so far. They've either all been injured, coming off injury, or were the most penalized at their position. If this lot can't get motivated, then we're ****ed.

That being said, I'm getting more excited. If only Cassel wasn't an all world buzzkill......

A grade. But I'm more stoked about flexibility it gives us in the draft. If we can pull some of that New England bullshit this year and acquire some ammunition for next year's draft. Maybe, just maybe Pioli finally makes a move for a legitimate QB prospect.

So we signed a blocking TE that drops passes. We signed a RB/FB that Madden cursed after a one hit wonder season. We picked up an EXCELLENT water Buffalo that is probably the best in hthe league at his position. We downgraded at CB. We picked up a 1St round bust for that QB competition we were promised. No. I'm not happy, or excited. BUT THANKS FOR SPENDING SUM MONEYZ GUIZS! Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. we've done nothing to address the most important position on the field.

Well we did, but it doesn't look like Peyton is as smart as everybody thought. The Chiefs and the 49ers are by far his best options. If he doesn't choose one of the two, he really doesn't care about winning.

Need a new old white safety

Ask this again after week 8.

FYP

This is spot on. Matt Cassel makes this a fail.

Problem with that assessment is that outside of Peyton, there were no good FA QBs to be had. There never are. No one knows why Peyton did not choose us. It might be because of Pioli or it could be something totally different. We will have to draft Cassel's replacement and we blew a shot at it this year, so hopefully we won't make the same mistake next year.

Peyton has nothing left to prove. I wouldn't care about winning either. I'd want to go somewhere where I'd enjoy ending my career.

Generally speaking, if you're looking for your QB in free agency, then you're looking in the wrong place.

Pioli has done a good job in filling holes in this free agency period.

He has to prove that he's not a playoff choker.

He has a SB ring....

This

If Manning thinks the same as you, he's an idiot too.

His legacy will be that he's a great regular season QB who choked too often in the playoffs.

If he thinks he has nothing to prove, he's wrong.

His brother's legacy will be greater.

:LOL:

Nothing matters if the Chiefs don't have a QB.

The front office's arrogance lost them the Peyton Manning sweepstakes. And the Chiefs could have cut Cassel and kept Orton for the same exact price.

The QB decision is critical. And they ****ed it up big time. They promised us competition for Cassel. Instead, they got us a backup.

That decision alone turns it from an A- to a D.

No. Signing a RT, a backup TE, and a backup FB doesn't mean shit without a QB. Nothing will make up for not even getting a visit by Manning, nothing.

Manning chose not to come here, despite the efforts of our GM and owner. Maybe we have a history of suckiness and cheapness, but that is hard to blame at the feet of the FA period this year, considering it just started.

Orton got a fat deal from Chicago ( $5 mil this year ). That's overpaying for a backup who was marginally better than Cassel.

Who else is available for competition? There just aren't enough good QBs to go around in the NFL; it's not like we missed some great chance at improving our QB position.

And besides, we have the draft and our draft-pick from last year for this.

I don't like the QB situation anymore than anyone else, but there aren't better alternatives just sitting out there, unless you want to roll the dice on Flynn.

Your right becuase you know more than these guys who seem to think we have had the best free agent acquisitions

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...alysts-031812/

Wanted Soliai, but if we can pair Wimbley with Tamba, it's an A+.

sticking with Cassel has ruined everything he's done.

Interesting quote from that link:

5. Excluding Peyton Manning, you’re a GM and can pick up one player to significantly improve your team. What team are you and what player do you choose from the available free agents?

Khaled: You know what the Kansas City Chiefs could do to continue an excellent off season? Make a move for Aubrayo Franklin on the cheap to play nose tackle. His market value dictates cost won’t be too high, he fits into their type of 3-4, and you only need to go back to 2010 to see how good he can be in that base package role.

You know what? This is an excellent point. Filled holes and upgraded a major position of need. The number one need went from worst in league to one of the best.

We need a franchise QB, but I want to get one through the draft.

Until we truly address the albatross on this team, then my answer will continue to be a resounding NO.

One problem. This franchise doesn't draft QBs until the second day of the draft.

Agreed. While there have been some steals out there (Brees), there normally is a reason that QB is on the market. Orton didn't want to be here and got a wad of cash to be a backup so we needed a 3rd QB for camp.
We picked up a starting RT, one of the biggest holes on the team, a second TE, a CB to replace Carr, and a RB that's a huge upgrade over the duo of Jones and Battle. I would have liked to see Hillis' contract to be more than a year and rather not had to replace Carr, but that's life.
I don't think we're finished in FA just yet and we've freed ourselves somewhat in the draft. I'll give it a 92.

As long as Cassel is the QB, nothing is a success. I'm assuming that the signing of Brady Quinn means they are not going to draft a QB, so I'm saying no.

Cassel is worse than Orton.

Not in the overall scheme of things.

I don't know what that means, but i disagree.

Orton is a 10-6

Cassel is an 8-8

Both of them get us the same result. No playoff wins or a SB.


Orton is waaaaay better, but would he benefit us long-term?

absolutely.

10-6 is good enough to win this division, easily. And once you're in, you never know what could happen. This team has enough talent to win in the playoffs with Orton, in my opinion.

Pioli wanted Ortan out of the way because Cassel would never win the starting job vs Kyle.

Perhaps, but a SB?



I just don't know. I am in a very bad place when it comes to the Chiefs right now, so my optimism is zero.

LMAO

Have you seen both play? There's a considerable difference.

Ya, Orton is way better, it's obvious.


They don't get us to where we need to go, though.

:clap: This

This.

We've had the same three massive holes since this regime took over.

Yesterday, one finally was filled and people are ready to erect a statue of Pioli next to Lamar's at Arrowhead.

At this rate, we might see a legit fix at NT by 2015 and at QB by 2018.

A downgrade at CB, two backups, Eric Winston (Thank God) and Brady Quinn as the competition Pioli spoke about is far from a "good" FA period.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li...pzp8o1_400.jpg

What the **** does Cassel have to do with the moves made this off season?
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