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Micjones 03-18-2012 10:31 AM

The Chiefs Draft? Who Cares!
 
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As a Chiefs fan, I must be suffering temporary* insanity but, who cares.

*My family would debate the “temporary” part of that statement.

Who cares who the Chiefs choose in the 2012 draft. I know it sounds wrong to say it but, who cares!

The Chiefs free agent signings this off season have been so stellar that it has made the draft an event in which, for the first time in memory, I feel like whoever they select… will be absolutely perfect.

I’m not worried.

I’m not anxious.

I’m not concerned about management making a mistake. Basically because I think making a mistake is now almost impossible in the this draft. I’m as mellow as a joint toten toker at the end of a Grateful Dead concert.

All of the alternatives in this draft now seem to be, mind blowingly excellent. Dude.

If RB Trent Richardson slips to the 11th spot in the draft and the Chiefs select him, then the they’ll end up with JC, Hillis & TRich and one of the best backfields since Czonka-Kick-Morris.

If the Chiefs go with OG David DeCastro out of Stanford with the 11th pick then they’ll likely end up with one of the best offensive lines in the whole league, within the next two years, if not immediately… because they would instantly be better than the 2010 OL who paved the way for the best rushing attack in the league.

If the Chiefs go off the farm a bit and take QB Ryan Tannehill then yes, one of the current quarterbacks is going to be displaced but, the quality of QB’s on the roster, as a group, will be Star Wars light years ahead of last year’s ghastly triage trio. Only a cameo by Orton, Who Hears Who And Slays A Packer, saved the season from collapse and an Armageddonish embarrassment.

If the Chiefs decide to go the ILB route and take Luke Kuechly, then what’s not to like about Hali, DJ, LuKuech and Houston? We’ll all need far less Pepto Bismol to stop the runs.

What if the Chiefs take Dontari Poe? Even if this guy turns out to be a bust, then the defense is still going to be better than last year’s just because of the healed players and the improved offense. That would likely make a rookie NT like Poe look at the very least… average. Average… that’s probably something Poe hasn’t been called in a while. Maybe that, will tick him off and he’ll eat all the OL who get in his way.

What if Riley Reiff falls to the Chiefs and they pick him up? Pioli probably wouldn’t do that without a specific idea in mind for Reiff. What could that plan be? → Reiff (LT), Albert (LG), Hudson (C), Asamoah (RG) and Winston (RT). Would that be an acceptable line for you?

Are you feeling me here? Wouldn’t ANY of those picks be all right with you?


Now that the Chiefs have signed CB Stanford Routt, RB Peyton Hillis, and TE Kevin Boss and their new right tackle of the future, Mr. Smokin’ Winston… all is well in the Shire.

For the Chiefs second round selection, wouldn’t QB Brandon Weeden, RB Lamar Miller, C Peter Konz, DT Brandon Thompson or OG Kelechi Osemele be cool with you? If so, speak now, or forever hold your peace. However, I’m just aguessin’ you won’t want to stop this marriage.

Perhaps, I’m just having a non-discriminant moment here. Probably not.

You see, now it feels like the Chiefs can take the best player available… or begin to round out their roster… or select players who can provide quality depth. Maybe you’d like to re-read Nicholas Alan Clayton’s post called The Most Foolproof Offseason Ever from March 7th here at AA. In his post Mr. Clayton says, Trent Richardson doesn’t slip down to us? Who cares? We’ll still have a smorgasbord of other options in need areas on the team. It’s been smooth sailing so far, and barring a Pioli nervous breakdown or a nuclear war between here and next winter, the Chiefs are set for a deep run into the playoffs.

Since Nicholas wrote his post, the Chiefs HAVE filled several “needs” positions so now, they can focus on other positions, without constraints.

In the third round, what if the Chiefs took any of these prospects: FS Markelle Martin from Oklahoma State or ILB Mychal Kendricks from California or OG Amini Silatolu out of D-II Midwestern State? I’d be stoked.

Right now, I’m plain stoked about the Chiefs!

I can’t wait for the draft. Almost any of these prospects will help provide the Chiefs with filling out their best roster since Martyball was aballin’.

I don’t know about you but, it just feels right to say… who cares.

And it feels really good to be a Chiefs fan.

And it feels so good to feel this way.
The story.

007 03-18-2012 10:32 AM

:facepalm:

CoMoChief 03-18-2012 10:34 AM

Horrible thread.

milkman 03-18-2012 10:35 AM

This guy is a ****ing moron.

Scorp 03-18-2012 10:35 AM

I hope we draft a decent Cheerleader for once.

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 10:36 AM

um MANNING!

mlyonsd 03-18-2012 10:37 AM

Print'em.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8467750)
:facepalm:

what's the matter? Too much positivity for your stomach to handle, guru?

Direckshun 03-18-2012 10:39 AM

While I don't agree with it, it's not totally unreasonable.

This draft's targets:

franchise QB
franchise NT
guard
OL depth across the board
passrushers depth
secondary depth
one more RB
FB

Seeing how there are no franchise QBs in this draft outside of Luck/RG3, this draft doesn't have the insane pressure riding on it previous drafts do.

Other than NT, we're pretty much looking for depth everywhere.

Previous drafts, including up to 2011, there were far more needs than there were draft picks.

This draft clearly does not need to be that way.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8467758)
Horrible thread.

well that seals it ... super bowl!!!

007 03-18-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8467772)
what's the matter? Too much positivity for your stomach to handle, guru?

rose colored glasses.

Easy 6 03-18-2012 10:40 AM

With Winston around they arent taking Reiff & Albert isnt moving to guard.

kcpasco 03-18-2012 10:40 AM

Come on man, optimism is not allowed around here.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8467780)
rose colored glasses.

yep ... the chances to put on the rose colored glasses are extremely few and far between for Chiefs fans. I'm going to enjoy wearing them for a couple weeks before something else goes wrong.

you go ahead and enjoy being miserable

Direckshun 03-18-2012 10:48 AM

1. OG David DeCastro, Stanford

Best guard prospect to come along in my young lifetime. He's assured to be a Top Three guard in the NFL, and will help the Chiefs finally find a way to neutralize massive nose tackles while keeping their athletic ZBS alive.

2. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington

The Chiefs finally take the nose tackle I love. Ta'amu is a massive 340 lbs and runs like it; he's somebody you play in your heavy packages and base defense, and finally gives this team somebody to rely on in the middle for the next ten years. Ta'amu has plenty of two-gapping potential and can collapse the pocket on passing plays.

3. OLB/ILB/DE/??? Shea McClellin, Boise State

McClelllin is less valued because he's a phenomenal player (though he is a very solid, classic Vrabel-type), and more because Crennel can do whatever the hell he wants with him at all times. Rush the dirt, drop back in coverage, stand up. He's a bit undersized, but he was a team captain and incredibly coachable.

4. OT Andrew Datko, Florida State

Datko is 2nd round talent that falls to the fourth because of an injury history. He's worth taking as a swing tackle behind Albert and Winston. He can play both sides, and do so very well. Zebrie Sanders, a 2nd rounder in this year's draft, had to play the right side for a while because Datko beat him out for LT.

5. FS Trenton Robinson, Michigan State

Extremely fast (4.4 speed), ballhawking safety out of the Big Ten. Four interceptions and something like eighty tackles last year.

6. RB Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M

The Chiefs need some depth behind two relatively injury prone RBs in Jamaal and Hillis. Gray is a solid 210 lb runner who does nothing spectacularly, but does everything well.

7. C Adam Gettis, Iowa

Undersized (280 lbs) but proficient in Ferenz's system, Pioli trusts him and so should we. He is a great run blocker but will need a couple seasons behind Hudson to gain strength and size.

Tell me this isn't a team that can make noise in January.

QB: Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi
RB: Hillis, Charles, McCluster, Gray
FB: Bannon

WR: Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, Cotchery, Copper
TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri

LT: Albert, Datko
LG: DeCastro, Harris
C: Hudson, Gettis
RG: Asamoah, Harris
RT: Winston, Datko

DE: Dorsey, Bailey
NT: Ta'amu, Gordon, Powe
DE: Jackson, Gordon

OLB: Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Belcher, Siler
ILB: Johnson, Siler
OLB: Houston, McClellin

CB: Flowers, Routt, Arenas, Brown, Daniels
S: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Robinson

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford
KR: Arenas, McCluster
PR: Arenas, McCluster

Mr_Tomahawk 03-18-2012 10:48 AM

We aren't drafting a QB.

Daboll/Crennel probably wanted Quinn.

Stanzi and Cassel are products of Pioli.

I doubt we go into the season with 4 qbs.

007 03-18-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8467802)
yep ... the chances to put on the rose colored glasses are extremely few and far between for Chiefs fans. I'm going to enjoy wearing them for a couple weeks before something else goes wrong.

you go ahead and enjoy being miserable

Draft a QB with one of the first two picks and I will be happier.

CoMoChief 03-18-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8467776)
well that seals it ... super bowl!!!

what?:spock:

milkman 03-18-2012 10:52 AM

Direckshun, as long as Cassel is the starting QB, this is not a team that can make some noise in January.

ChiefGator 03-18-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8467806)
1. OG David DeCastro, Stanford

Best guard prospect to come along in my young lifetime. He's assured to be a Top Three guard in the NFL, and will help the Chiefs finally find a way to neutralize massive nose tackles while keeping their athletic ZBS alive.

2. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington

The Chiefs finally take the nose tackle I love. Ta'amu is a massive 340 lbs and runs like it; he's somebody you play in your heavy packages and base defense, and finally gives this team somebody to rely on in the middle for the next ten years. Ta'amu has plenty of two-gapping potential and can collapse the pocket on passing plays.

I could live with that as the first two rounds. I think most the people screaming that you don't take a guard in the 1st would be quieted by the 2nd round selection.

Molitoth 03-18-2012 10:55 AM

It should be a good draft to develop depth... next year go all out for franchise QB. Barkley, (or whomever arises out of nowhere ala RG3)

Direckshun 03-18-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8467823)
Direckshun, as long as Cassel is the starting QB, this is not a team that can make some noise in January.

Sanchez? Alex Smith? Joe Flacco?

Cassel's not taking us to the Super Bowl. But a win or two in the playoffs is not beyond the realm of possibility.

RealSNR 03-18-2012 10:56 AM

For me, the NFL Draft > Christmas.

Seriously.

**** this guy. I'm murdering his entire family.

milkman 03-18-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8467833)
Sanchez? Alex Smith? Joe Flacco?

Cassel's not taking us to the Super Bowl. But a win or two in the playoffs is not beyond the realm of possibility.

Those guys are mediocre QBs, no question.

Matt Cassel is worse.

L.A. Chieffan 03-18-2012 10:57 AM

they need to move it back to saturday so i can get drunk all day and yell at the tv

Direckshun 03-18-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8467835)
For me, the NFL Draft > Christmas.

Seriously.

I'm the same.

Why the **** are we that way?

ChiefGator 03-18-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8467839)
I'm the same.

Why the **** are we that way?

Because we are Chief's fans... that's our superbowl.

Direckshun 03-18-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8467837)
Those guys are mediocre QBs, no question.

Matt Cassel is worse.

Really?

The 2010 Matt Cassel is worse than Sanchez or Alex Smith?

I'll give you Flacco, because Flacco flashes sometimes.

But with a run game, and Cassel in his 27/7 form, and he is every bit as good as both players.

milkman 03-18-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8467838)
they need to move it back to saturday so i can get drunk all day and yell at the tv

It's the only time that you can be assured I will be taking days off.

Already scheduled.

BoneKrusher 03-18-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorp (Post 8467762)
I hope we draft a decent Cheerleader for once.

yeah this.

i'm tired of backups.

007 03-18-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8467842)
Really?

The 2010 Matt Cassel is worse than Sanchez or Alex Smith?

I'll give you Flacco, because Flacco flashes sometimes.

But with a run game, and Cassel in his 27/7 form, and he is every bit as good as both players.

yeah, but we aren't playing the NFC West this year. :)

milkman 03-18-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8467842)
Really?

The 2010 Matt Cassel is worse than Sanchez or Alex Smith?

I'll give you Flacco, because Flacco flashes sometimes.

But with a run game, and Cassel in his 27/7 form, and he is every bit as good as both players.

I disagree.

No one, not even Brady Quinn shits his pants at imaginary pressure like Matt Cassel.

And those guys can actually throw a decent intermediate to deep pass.

philfree 03-18-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8467835)
For me, the NFL Draft > Christmas.

Seriously.

**** this guy. I'm murdering his entire family.

I liked it better before they changed the format to 3 days but I love the draft.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8467811)
We aren't drafting a QB.

Daboll/Crennel probably wanted Quinn.

Stanzi and Cassel are products of Pioli.

I doubt we go into the season with 4 qbs.


Wrong. Pioli has stated over and over he wants to draft a QB every year.

Bump 03-18-2012 11:02 AM

as long as Manning isn't in our division, our running game alone will get us to the playoffs (if JC fully recovers) but there is 0% chance to actually win a playoff game with Cassel.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8467813)
Draft a QB with one of the first two picks and I will be happier.

Quinn was drafted in the 1st round ... super bowl!!!!

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8467858)
Wrong. Pioli has stated over and over he wants to draft a QB every year.

link?

Mr_Tomahawk 03-18-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8467858)
Wrong. Pioli has stated over and over he wants to draft a QB every year.

Is he going to cut Stanzi after one year?

Is he going to cut his golden-boy?

Is he going to cut the one guy familiar with Daboll's offense, Quinn?

Is he going to go into the season with 4 qbs?

RealSNR 03-18-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8467839)
I'm the same.

Why the **** are we that way?

1. Wings, beer, and chips & salsa > Christmas roast and fruitcake
2. Sitting on the couch for an entire weekend with my pants off > sitting in a stuffy room with dress pants and a sweater
3. Less expensive. Don't have to shop
4. Don't even get me started on the difference in quality of TV programming
5. I'm drunk with my friends instead of being polite to relatives

Christmas is great. Don't get me wrong. But it just can't compare.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2012 11:07 AM

We haven't improved our team much. 3 of the 4 we've signed are white guys. That just doesn't work in the NFL unless it's the Patriots.

OnTheWarpath15 03-18-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8467833)
Sanchez? Alex Smith? Joe Flacco?

Cassel's not taking us to the Super Bowl. But a win or two in the playoffs is not beyond the realm of possibility.

Regardless of what you think of their overall body of work, at least we've seen each of those guys make clutch plays at clutch times to win those playoff games.

When in three years, have we seen Cassel make a clutch play in a big game?

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8467862)
link?

Wouldn't know where to chase it down but I have seen him state that in several different interviews.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8467867)
Is he going to cut Stanzi after one year? NO

Is he going to cut his golden-boy? NO

Is he going to cut the one guy familiar with Daboll's offense, Quinn? YES

Is he going to go into the season with 4 qbs? NO


Quinn will end up being released. Watch.

007 03-18-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8467888)
Quinn will end up being released. Watch.

All the more reason they need to draft a QB in the first two rounds.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-18-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8467888)
Quinn will end up being released. Watch.

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8467895)
All the more reason they need to draft a QB in the first two rounds.

Niether of these will happen.

Clarkoli are not going to flush $$ down the toilet.

milkman 03-18-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8467860)
Quinn was drafted in the 1st round ... super bowl!!!!

Good lord, you are one stupid mother****er.

Frankie 03-18-2012 11:20 AM

Direckshun. I would like this draft a lot. I'm not too enamoured with you 3 and don't want an undersized O-lineman at all. Have seen enough of pass rushes over the middle.

Your first two rounds rock though.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8467920)
Good lord, you are one stupid mother****er.

Methinks he was joshin'.

Chiefaholic 03-18-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 8467888)
Quinn will end up being released. Watch.

I just have this gut feeling that we'll draft a rookie in round 1 or 2 (Tannehill or Weeden) in rounds 1 or 2. Quinn will go into camp with Stanzi as his only legit competition for a starting position while the rookie sits for a year learning the offense and adjusting to the NFL.

Depending on where Tannehill falls, we could take him at #11 or trade down 5-6 spots and take Poe #1 then Weeden in round 2

Frankie 03-18-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 8467927)
I just have this gut feeling that we'll draft a rookie in round 1 or 2

Nostradumus.

;)

milkman 03-18-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8467925)



Methinks he was joshin'.

Methinks he's a passive-aggressive bleeding vagina.

No, actually, I don't think that at all.

I know it with absolute certainty.

SDKCCHIEFS 03-18-2012 11:40 AM

:thumb: . I like to see positives on this website. . been lurking on here for 3-4 years without an account just watching some of the threads. I think it is foolish for people to call this thread worthless. I, although would have gone a bit harder for soliai and one of the FA qb's . That being said this was easily the best Free Agency period we have had since god knows when... good thread .

007 03-18-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 8467927)
I just have this gut feeling that we'll draft a rookie in round 1 or 2 (Tannehill or Weeden) in rounds 1 or 2. Quinn will go into camp with Stanzi as his only legit competition for a starting position while the rookie sits for a year learning the offense and adjusting to the NFL.

Depending on where Tannehill falls, we could take him at #11 or trade down 5-6 spots and take Poe #1 then Weeden in round 2

I think we will draft a rookie in all rounds of the draft.

Frankie 03-18-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SDKCCHIEFS (Post 8468004)
:thumb: . I like to see positives on this website. . been lurking on here for 3-4 years without an account just watching some of the threads. I think it is foolish for people to call this thread worthless. I, although would have gone a bit harder for soliai and one of the FA qb's . That being said this was easily the best Free Agency period we have had since god knows when... good thread .


N00b ALERT!!!





Just kidding. Welcome aboard. :)

Frankie 03-18-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8468005)
I think we will draft a rookie in all rounds of the draft.

Unless we draft grandpa Weeden.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8467907)
Niether of these will happen.

Clarkoli are not going to flush $$ down the toilet.

the chiefs will never go after Peyton Manning
the Chiefs will never pay enough to get Winston
the Chiefs will never sign any real free agents
the Chiefs will never draft a safety that high in the draft

T-post Tom 03-18-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8467747)

How dare you, sir? You just lost your CP card. Positivity will not be tolerated here.

Rausch 03-18-2012 12:00 PM

We've addressed every need we have outside of depth at CB/0T/OG/ILB and a huge need at NT.

Our QB is complete dog$3it and nothing will be done to address that. Rolling with a $3itbag here should be a given.

Unfortunately.

Given these weaknesses and where we're drafting I go against my own beliefs and take the Mauler-guard. I can't help it.

I go true-fan here and lock up this line for half a decade...

RealSNR 03-18-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8468040)
the chiefs will never go after Peyton Manning
the Chiefs will never pay enough to get Winston
the Chiefs will never sign any real free agents
the Chiefs will never draft a safety that high in the draft

Chiefs won't win a playoff game this year? :grovel:

Direckshun 03-18-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8468121)
Chiefs won't win a playoff game this year? :grovel:

If we win the division, we'll be hosting someone from the AFC North.

Could be the Bengals.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 8467927)
I just have this gut feeling that we'll draft a rookie in round 1 or 2 (Tannehill or Weeden) in rounds 1 or 2. Quinn will go into camp with Stanzi as his only legit competition for a starting position while the rookie sits for a year learning the offense and adjusting to the NFL.

Depending on where Tannehill falls, we could take him at #11 or trade down 5-6 spots and take Poe #1 then Weeden in round 2


I think you'll see our QB drafted in later rounds by the name of Chandler Harnish. Quinn , Harnish and Stanzi will battle out for the two backup spots to Cassel.

Hopefully Cassel gets hurt really bad on the opening play in the preseason and we figure out who our future QB is gonna be.


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