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DaFace 04-24-2012 04:26 PM

Google Drive: Dropbox Killer?
 
Google finally announced their cloud storage solution today and, at least based on the marketing materials, it looks pretty damn sweet. Basically, Dropbox features at half the price, plus all sorts of Google integration. It's going to be interesting to see how it all works out.

Blog post with the announcement:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/...es-really.html

Drive website:
http://drive.google.com

DaFace 04-24-2012 04:27 PM

P.S. Arash - if you happen to find this thread one of these days, good luck! I can't imagine it's easy to suddenly having Google jump in as a direct competitor.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2012 04:29 PM

The only thing I don't like is after 5G you have to pay MONTHLY for the excess storage.

QuikSsurfer 04-24-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8563268)
P.S. Arash - if you happen to find this thread one of these days, good luck! I can't imagine it's easy to suddenly having Google jump in as a direct competitor.

Heh, he's the first person I thought of when I read the thread title. Dude has got to be ballin now. Dropbox is a hit.

DaFace 04-24-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563274)
The only thing I don't like is after 5G you have to pay MONTHLY for the excess storage.

While true, that's how pretty much all of the cloud storage services work.

Fish 04-24-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563274)
The only thing I don't like is after 5G you have to pay MONTHLY for the excess storage.

Also, it doesn't give you free beer and blowjobs. I mean WTF? What a rip off....

DaFace 04-24-2012 04:47 PM

Here's a decent run-down via a reddit comment:

Quote:

Here are a few advantages of Google Drive:
  • Paid plans are cheaper
  • Offers more free space (unless you have dropbox referrals)
  • Images and videos uploaded through Google+ do not count against your available space (restrictions apply)
  • Document collaboration ala Google Docs
  • Supports online viewing for "over 30 filetypes" including photoshop, illustrator and HD Video (not sure how the support stacks up to dropbox)
  • Sync appears to be much faster than dropbox
  • Space also applies to other google products: gmail & picasa
  • Shared files give you a commenting and chat interface - which is actually more useful than it sounds
  • If you happen to be grandfathered into a google storage plan the prices are DIRT CHEAP.
  • The Google Drive icon is way more awesome than the Dropbox icon, especially the menubar icons on OS X.
  • Google docs are sync'd to your desktop AS google docs. I'm not sure if this is an advantage or not, but it does provide an extra security measure against access to those documents.
  • Improved search over Dropbox - including OCR recognition of PDFs, etc. This is really nice for eBooks.
  • Files can be kept forever even if you stop paying. Stop paying and your files over the free storage limit will remain with read-only access as long as you want them. You could consider it pay once forever hosting.
  • File-level app permissions. Apps don't need access to your entire dropbox, you can grant them access to a single file.
The one area where Dropbox is a win is existing integration, but Google Drive has everything necessary to be built into apps in the same way and is already supported by autodesk, aviary, and several others.

Things that both Dropbox and Google Drive have:
  • 30 Day Versioning
  • Selective sync
  • Desktop apps for OS X & Windows, Android, and iOS (coming soon for Google Drive)

Here are a few advantages of Dropbox:
  • Desktop support (right click share)
  • Adjustable sync speed
  • Lan Sync
  • Sync progress status
  • Native Linux Client


mdchiefsfan 04-24-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8563292)
While true, that's how pretty much all of the cloud storage services work.

I haven't ever really used a cloud storage, but I guess it makes sense to do it that way. Just seems a bit too pricey and deters me from wanting to use one.

Fish 04-24-2012 04:59 PM

$2.50/mo for 25GB of guaranteed cloud storage accessible anywhere from any device? And that's "too pricey"? Seriously?

Are you an Ethiopian farmer or something?

Thig Lyfe 04-24-2012 05:04 PM

Man, I've already got a shit-****ton of GBs on Dropbox from all the referrals I made. **** a Google Drive.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8563316)
$2.50/mo for 25GB of guaranteed cloud storage accessible anywhere from any device? And that's "too pricey"? Seriously?

Are you an Ethiopian farmer or something?

I could be.... I just hate having to pay monthly rates for anything. At some point it should just be yours.

EDIT: I understand it can be compared to netflix or even any of your monthly bills. But when I can go out and buy SD cards and be done paying why would I want to pay monthly?

DaFace 04-24-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563329)
I could be.... I just hate having to pay monthly rates for anything. At some point it should just be yours.

The difference is that there's an ongoing cost (to the provider) for stuff like this. It would be one thing if they just sold you a chunk of hard drive space, but they still have to pay for the power for the drive, the bandwidth to and from the server, the development of the software to facilitate the process, etc. It's a service - not a product - and you can never "possess" a service.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8563338)
The difference is that there's an ongoing cost (to the provider) for stuff like this. It would be one thing if they just sold you a chunk of hard drive space, but they still have to pay for the power for the drive, the bandwidth to and from the server, the development of the software to facilitate the process, etc. It's a service - not a product - and you can never "possess" a service.

Like I said, I do understand the reasoning for monthly charges; just not my cup of tea at the moment. Maybe you could educate me further. Does it offer anything that a standard SD card doesn't?

Fish 04-24-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563329)
I could be.... I just hate having to pay monthly rates for anything. At some point it should just be yours.

That's a neat idea... it would be like pay once forever hosting or something...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Google Drive
Files can be kept forever even if you stop paying. Stop paying and your files over the free storage limit will remain with read-only access as long as you want them. You could consider it pay once forever hosting.

We're talking about $2.50/mo to have files accessible from anywhere on dedicated secure servers that you yourself never have to worry about from now until the end of human civilization. Less than 10 years ago, nobody except millionaires could have afforded something like that. This is really amazing technology available for less than a hamburger a month and you're just pooping all over it.

DaFace 04-24-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563329)
I could be.... I just hate having to pay monthly rates for anything. At some point it should just be yours.

EDIT: I understand it can be compared to netflix or even any of your monthly bills. But when I can go out and buy SD cards and be done paying why would I want to pay monthly?

Do your SD cards automatically transfer data between your various devices? Can you send someone a link to a picture on your SD card? Do your SD cards automatically back themselves up with near infinite redundancy? Of course not.

It appears that you're looking at this just as a way to store data (and, therefore, increase your available storage space). That's not what you're paying for. You're paying for the convenience of 1) having your data available anytime, anywhere, and on any device and 2) having it all backed up instantly.

Fish 04-24-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563343)
Like I said, I do understand the reasoning for monthly charges; just not my cup of tea at the moment. Maybe you could educate me further. Does it offer anything that a standard SD card doesn't?

Infinite data retention guaranteed free of failure?

DaFace 04-24-2012 05:19 PM

As one very simplistic example of what Dropbox can do, here's a gallery of pics from a recent skiing outing:

(link removed)

I didn't "upload" those anywhere. They're in a folder on my computer. They're also in a folder on my wife's laptop and our server at home, as well as Dropbox's servers. My whole house could burn down, and those would still be there. I can share the entire folder with a friend, and they can "save" files into that same folder from THEIR computer.

EDIT: I'm thinking twice about having a link out there with my full name and pictures of me on there, so sorry for removing the link. If anyone's actually curious, feel free to PM me for the link.

The Franchise 04-24-2012 05:21 PM

I don't even use 50% of the 2 gbs I have on my free Dropbox account right now.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8563344)
That's a neat idea... it would be like pay once forever hosting or something...



We're talking about $2.50/mo to have files accessible from anywhere on dedicated secure servers that you yourself never have to worry about from now until the end of human civilization. Less than 10 years ago, nobody except millionaires could have afforded something like that. This is really amazing technology available for less than a hamburger a month and you're just pooping all over it.

That was not my intention and sorry if it came across that way. I just don't have a need for it. It is new to me so I don't know much about it. As DaFace just said, I was seeing it as a means to free up available space on my device.

I guess if I had a tablet, computer and other things where I would like to have immediate access to all of my files it would be well worth the cost to me. But since all I have is a Droid X-2 it is overkill to me.

DaFace 04-24-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8563362)
I don't even use 50% of the 2 gbs I have on my free Dropbox account right now.

Just depends on how you use it. Literally every document I have is on there, which includes every digital camera pic I've taken in the past decade. I'm using about 25GB at the moment.

Saulbadguy 04-24-2012 05:29 PM

I've literally never needed any type of Dropbox service.

Fish 04-24-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563363)
That was not my intention and sorry if it came across that way. I just don't have a need for it. It is new to me so I don't know much about it. As DaFace just said, I was seeing it as a means to free up available space on my device.

I guess if I had a tablet, computer and other things where I would like to have immediate access to all of my files it would be well worth the cost to me. But since all I have is a Droid X-2 it is overkill to me.

:toast: dude. I was just being overdramatic and giving you a hard time....

As someone in IT, I can tell you that this kind of ease of access and free data retention is really an impressive feat of technology. My organization pays hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to provide this kind of access and storage on a much much much much smaller scale. It's vastly more complex than just a replacement for an SD card. You'd really be amazed at what this kind of cloud storage can do these days.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8563389)
:toast: dude. I was just being overdramatic and giving you a hard time....

As someone in IT, I can tell you that this kind of ease of access and free data retention is really an impressive feat of technology. My organization pays hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to provide this kind of access and storage on a much much much much smaller scale. It's vastly more complex than just a replacement for an SD card. You'd really be amazed at what this kind of cloud storage can do these days.

LMAO I was thinking to myself, "Did this guy invent the cloud?"

As I read I am starting to see it more of a 3rd party source to network all mobile and home devices while backing up all info to a secure location, which is pretty cool. Especially, the part about if you stop paying it isn't lost; you just need to pay to access it. If you lost everything stored on there I would be furious.

Fish 04-24-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8563410)
LMAO I was thinking to myself, "Did this guy invent the cloud?"

As I read I am starting to see it more of a 3rd party source to network all mobile and home devices while backing up all info to a secure location, which is pretty cool. Especially, the part about if you stop paying it isn't lost; you just need to pay to access it. If you lost everything stored on there I would be furious.

Actually if you stop paying you can still access it anytime without resuming payment. Read only means you can download the file at any time you just can't upload anymore after that.

Dr. Gigglepants 04-24-2012 06:47 PM

I'm currently with Carbonite. $99 every 2 years for unlimited storage. So it's unlimited and automatic for about $4/month. Is Google Drive really that much better, I can still access my files on any PC, phone, tablet, etc. Could Google Drive be set up to be automatic like Carbonite?

DaFace 04-24-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants (Post 8563621)
I'm currently with Carbonite. $99 every 2 years for unlimited storage. So it's unlimited and automatic for about $4/month. Is Google Drive really that much better, I can still access my files on any PC, phone, tablet, etc. Could Google Drive be set up to be automatic like Carbonite?

Unless I've missed a change they've made in the last couple years, Carbonite is a great BACKUP system, but not a SYNCING solution. In other words, Carbonite will upload anything you want from your computer, and you can go and find any of those files (manually) by logging into their website and downloading them as you need them.

Dropbox (and drive) does all that, but where Carbonite is really meant to keep files backed up from one computer, Dropbox will keep a folder synced on MULTIPLE computers. In other words, if you save a file into your Dropbox folder on one computer, it will instantly (ignoring download times) show up in the Dropbox of all of the other computers you have linked up. You can also share folders between accounts if you wish. Finally, there are a variety of sharing options on Dropbox that allow you to give out links that can be clicked in a web browser to access files that are in your Dropbox folder on your computer, which is a nice side benefit.

So basically, if you're just looking for an online backup solution, Carbonite works fine. If you're looking for a way to share files between multiple computers (and people) easily while having a backup solution as a nice side benefit, Dropbox (or Drive) are awesome.

mdchiefsfan 04-24-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8563557)
Actually if you stop paying you can still access it anytime without resuming payment. Read only means you can download the file at any time you just can't upload anymore after that.

Well damn, I'm starting to feel more and more like Dewey Cox in this scene

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QuikSsurfer 04-24-2012 09:05 PM

I like the sound of it and I'll definitely use it.

But selective syncing is a must and my dropbox referrals are paying off here.

007 04-24-2012 09:33 PM

Meh. I'm getting 50gb storage free on dropbox.

DaFace 04-24-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8564216)
Meh. I'm getting 50gb storage free on dropbox.

Shit tons of referrals?

DaFace 04-24-2012 09:48 PM

Pretty decent review
http://m.lifehacker.com/5904731/desk...urce=pulsenews

007 04-24-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8564227)
Shit tons of referrals?

Nope. HP Touchpad owner. :)

AustinChief 04-24-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8564262)
Nope. HP Touchpad owner. :)

Me too, but we have BOX.net not dropbox... but basically the same.

007 04-24-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8564336)
Me too, but we have BOX.net not dropbox... but basically the same.

They all look the same to me.

AustinChief 04-24-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8564424)
They all look the same to me.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0...fhi2o1_250.gif

QuikSsurfer 04-25-2012 04:31 PM

I installed and setup google drive today - just to let you guys know, there is a selective sync option (someone originally said it didn't have the functionality - it does).

Fish 04-25-2012 07:54 PM

Got Drive enabled today too. Cool so far....

DaFace 04-25-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 8565860)
I installed and setup google drive today - just to let you guys know, there is a selective sync option (someone originally said it didn't have the functionality - it does).

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8566554)
Got Drive enabled today too. Cool so far....

Yup, they're moving pretty quickly on the invites it looks like - both me and a coworker got access today.

My initial impressions are that it's basically Dropbox at a lower price with better web features and poorer local features (i.e., right-click features). I'll be sticking with Dropbox for now, but I'll be anxiously watching the improvements between the two.

BigMeatballDave 04-26-2012 01:18 AM

Can I store my porn on there?

DaFace 04-26-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8567112)
Can I store my porn on there?

Don't see why not. Hell, it'll even turn it into a web-browsable format. :)

Fish 04-26-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8567112)
Can I store my porn on there?

Confirmed!! :thumb:

DaFace 07-10-2012 01:57 PM

Dropbox is bumping their plans up today in response:

http://blog.dropbox.com/index.php/ne...box-pro-plans/

$10 = 100gb
$20 = 200gb

SuperChief 07-10-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8730413)
Dropbox is bumping their plans up today in response:

http://blog.dropbox.com/index.php/ne...box-pro-plans/

$10 = 100gb
$20 = 200gb

Interesting. My employer is actually in the process of switching from Dropbox to Drive.

mikeyis4dcats. 07-10-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8730413)
Dropbox is bumping their plans up today in response:

http://blog.dropbox.com/index.php/ne...box-pro-plans/

$10 = 100gb
$20 = 200gb

hey guys! We're awesome because we went from 4 times the price to just double the price! <high five>

DaFace 07-10-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 8730528)
hey guys! We're awesome because we went from 4 times the price to just double the price! <high five>

Eh, DB's overall platform is still far more refined IMO. I gave Drive a try for a couple weeks, but ended up going back to Dropbox (price be damned). This makes it a little nicer, though.

DaFace 08-27-2014 09:04 AM

For what it's worth, Dropbox just bumped limits up to 1TB for $9.99.

htismaqe 08-27-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 8566554)
Got Drive enabled today too. Cool so far....

How well does it integrate with OS X?

DaveNull 08-27-2014 02:49 PM

It's not bad, but it syncs everything. I used it as offsite storage and ended up removing it from my desktop.

I haven't used it since getting my File Transporter.

DaveNull 08-27-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10852898)
For what it's worth, Dropbox just bumped limits up to 1TB for $9.99.

$9.99 per month.

Fish 08-27-2014 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10853146)
How well does it integrate with OS X?

It works fine. It creates a Google Drive folder in your home folder. It can sync the entire folder, or subfolders of your choosing. You can designate what you want to share with others, and view what others have shared with you. I use it cross platform, and haven't ever had any issues with it.

ToxSocks 08-27-2014 02:58 PM

We use Godaddy's Workspace program. It's cloud based storage and email all rolled into one. We've been using it for a few years now and have no complaints.

NewChief 08-27-2014 03:01 PM

Drive may end up being an everything killer.

I'm not sure there's been a piece of technology that has changed my workflow like this since the computer itself came along.

Going paperless at work is a beautiful thing.


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