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Coogs 04-27-2012 07:19 AM

Chiefs offered Bowe in return for a 1st last night...
 
...and could find no takers.

Heard that on 810 this morning on the way to work. Don't have a link.

Don't give a crap if this is old news. Didn't see it anywhere.



EDIT: Provided by GoChiefs

@RUSSLANDE just told us that the Chiefs tried to trade Dwayne Bowe yesterday, but nobody was willing to offer a first round pick for him.

https://twitter.com/#!/nate_bukaty/s...56696902553600

the Talking Can 04-27-2012 07:19 AM

great...let's get rid of our good players

Hammock Parties 04-27-2012 07:20 AM

Yup. **** that fat ****ing asshole named Scott Pioli.

He is death.

mcaj22 04-27-2012 07:20 AM

lol i hope this leaks and pisses Bowe off

that will create some fun

notorious 04-27-2012 07:20 AM

ROFL


They couldn't even get a 1st rounder for Bowe. That should tell everyone something.

bevischief 04-27-2012 07:21 AM

This year or next?

the Talking Can 04-27-2012 07:21 AM

let's get rid of the only proven WR we have...

suds79 04-27-2012 07:21 AM

For just a 1st? Yeah no thanks.

We'll keep our top 10 WR thank you.

.... If he had a real QB throwing to him, I think he could be top 5.

Not worried about his contract at all. They'll sign him to a long term deal.

Chiefnj2 04-27-2012 07:21 AM

That's probably the real reason why KC took so long to make their pick.

mcaj22 04-27-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8572371)
For just a 1st? Yeah no thanks.

We'll keep our top 10 WR thank you.


yeah for one more year lol

Rausch 04-27-2012 07:22 AM

Ok, let's say we got offered a 12-15 range pick.

Do we trade Bowe for that? Who the **** are we going to take there who's day 1 better than Bowe?...

Hammock Parties 04-27-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572368)
ROFL


They couldn't even get a 1st rounder for Bowe. That should tell everyone something.

That Pioli sucks.

Rausch 04-27-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572368)
ROFL


They couldn't even get a 1st rounder for Bowe. That should tell everyone something.

In a draft that's not strong in 1st round talent at WR...

bevischief 04-27-2012 07:23 AM

Peter pan.

Chiefnj2 04-27-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8572374)
Ok, let's say we got offered a 12-15 range pick.

Do we trade Bowe for that? Who the **** are we going to take there who's day 1 better than Bowe?...

They probably would have taken Floyd.

the Talking Can 04-27-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572368)
ROFL


They couldn't even get a 1st rounder for Bowe. That should tell everyone something.

why?

how often are WRs traded for firsts?

mcaj22 04-27-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8572374)
Ok, let's say we got offered a 12-15 range pick.

Do we trade Bowe for that? Who the **** are we going to take there who's day 1 better than Bowe?...


i dont think thats the case at all. i think there should be a panic that the sides are so far apart, and maybe the Chiefs know something fans don't. (like Bowe is absolutely not interested in staying longer than this year.) Why not get something to groom for your team NOW, rather than having Bowe walk just like Carr.

Carr and Bowe put the Chiefs in a very awful position, because they stand to lose both by the start of next season. And losing TWO in house guys makes the FO look pathetic.

Coogs 04-27-2012 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8572369)
This year or next?

I'm assuming it was for a pick last night. There was some chatter last night that the Cheifs were attepmting to trade back into the first round. Maybe this was how they were doing it. :shrug:

Hammock Parties 04-27-2012 07:25 AM

@RUSSLANDE just told us that the Chiefs tried to trade Dwayne Bowe yesterday, but nobody was willing to offer a first round pick for him.

https://twitter.com/#!/nate_bukaty/s...56696902553600

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:25 AM

I don't believe NO team would give up a 1st for Bowe.

Anything from KC sports media is best, taken with a grain of salt.

notorious 04-27-2012 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8572380)
why?

how often are WRs traded for firsts?

I was alluding to the fact that Bowe isn't as amazing at his position as a lot of people think.


I would think that a top 5 WR, which a lot of homers believe he is, would demand at least one late first rounder.

mikey23545 04-27-2012 07:27 AM

An absolutely unimpeachable source for this rumor, no doubt.

Chiefnj2 04-27-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8572384)
I don't believe NO team would give up a 1st for Bowe.

Anything from KC sports media is best, taken with a grain of salt.

I do. You give up a first round pick, plus you have to pay him a huge-ass salary.

Coogs 04-27-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8572383)
@RUSSLANDE just told us that the Chiefs tried to trade Dwayne Bowe yesterday, but nobody was willing to offer a first round pick for him.

https://twitter.com/#!/nate_bukaty/s...56696902553600

:thumb: Thank you!

Rausch 04-27-2012 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8572381)
i dont think thats the case at all. i think there should be a panic that the sides are so far apart, and maybe the Chiefs know something fans don't. (like Bowe is absolutely not interested in staying longer than this year.) Why not get something to groom for your team NOW, rather than having Bowe walk just like Carr.

Carr and Bowe put the Chiefs in a very awful position, because they stand to lose both by the start of next season. And losing TWO in house guys makes the FO look pathetic.

I really didn't think much of any QB after the 1st two. Definitely not in the 1st round.

Now, if there's that top 5 QB next year and we can package Bowe+picks to move up and grab our guy I'm ok with that. I don't want to trade bowe for Tannehill but if we could give up Bowe and a few less picks to move up for an RGIII type player...well....that'd be different...

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2012 07:29 AM

We would never get a first round pick for Bowe. Nobody is going to give a premium pick and then pay Bowe a huge contract. Two seconds or a second and a third is the best the Chiefs could hope to get for Bowe.

the Talking Can 04-27-2012 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572387)
I was alluding to the fact that Bowe isn't as amazing at his position as a lot of people think.


I would think that a top 5 WR, which a lot of homers believe he is, would demand at least one late first rounder.

again, is there any evidence for this?


more importantly, who cares?

he's really good, he's our #1, and we need to sign him

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8572389)
I do. You give up a first round pick, plus you have to pay him a huge-ass salary.

Well, there's that.

O.city 04-27-2012 07:31 AM

This could be a way to lower Bowe's asking price.


Say you tried to trade him for a first, no one wants to do it, he lowers his asking price?

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572387)
I was alluding to the fact that Bowe isn't as amazing at his position as a lot of people think.


I would think that a top 5 WR, which a lot of homers believe he is, would demand at least one late first rounder.

Yep. Bowe sucks. Cut him.

Chiefnj2 04-27-2012 07:32 AM

Hey Pioli, how about offering some 1st round picks and BOWE to the Rams 2 months ago, you piece of crap.

Rausch 04-27-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8572402)
Hey Pioli, how about offering some 1st round picks and BOWE to the Rams 2 months ago, you piece of crap.

THIS.

Rams get a solid WR and we get our QB.

Missouri wins...

Sannyasi 04-27-2012 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572387)
I was alluding to the fact that Bowe isn't as amazing at his position as a lot of people think.


I would think that a top 5 WR, which a lot of homers believe he is, would demand at least one late first rounder.

This is all speculation, but I think its more likely that Bowe was asking for a ridiculous contract submarining his value.

I don't see why we can't spend some money to lock up one of the best players on our team. We weren't approaching the cap last year, or this year, there's no reason why we couldn't have front-loaded a contract to pay the guy.

Rausch 04-27-2012 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 8572413)
This is all speculation, but I think its more likely that Bowe was asking for a ridiculous contract submarining his value.

I don't see why we can't spend some money to lock up one of the best players on our team. We weren't approaching the cap last year, or this year, there's no reason why we couldn't have front-loaded a contract to pay the guy.

When the offseason came we should have resigned Bowe and Carr first. Anyone after that is bonus...

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:37 AM

A 1st would be a lot to give up considering the contact he wants.

I didn't think about that initially.

notorious 04-27-2012 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8572401)
Yep. Bowe sucks. Cut him.

LOL.


Bowe is a good WR, nothing more, nothing less. One thing is certain, he is not worth top 5 money.

Besides, how would you feel if the team you played for contiuously started a piece of shit at QB, and that POS QB is directly tied to your production?


He is as good as gone after this year, so why not get something for him?

mikey23545 04-27-2012 07:39 AM

Every time some bullshit rumor gets spread around this board all you knee jerk jerks start spewing projectile feces out of your keyboards about how terrible the Chiefs and every one connected with the team are.

Hell, I've even seen someone start a new thread with a "What would you think if the Chiefs did so-and-so" and immediately 100 posters will reply by saying they can't believe those damn Chiefs are considering such a thing.

This place is Tard City...LMAO

mcaj22 04-27-2012 07:39 AM

i do think the Chiefs made a strong effort to try and get a head of this and get something with Bowe done. Hence the franchise. I think the Chiefs hoped that when they made the decision to franchise Bowe over Carr that it would automatically tell and show Bowe they want him and make it easier in contract discussions.

If the Chiefs have been making attempts to OPEN discussions and Bowe and his agents just dont give a shit and set the bar at some extreme value, what do you want the Chiefs to do. It puts the FO in an awful position.

You didn't have any of this with Tamba Hali. Though Tamba didnt sign a long term til training camp, you damn well better believe from the start he was franchised, he signed the tender and negotiations had been going on well through the summer, he had even come out and said he wanted to stay with the Chiefs and the team and Tamba were able to meet in a perfect middle somewhere. It's very well possible Bowe is doing the opposite of all that.

If Bowe doesn't budge for whatever reason, there is nothing the team can do. And that very well maybe the case here. It could be similar to Vincent Jackson in San Diego. He doesnt care, he does what he wants and ends up elsewhere and the team gets nothing.

Marcellus 04-27-2012 07:40 AM

I dont even see this as big news honestly. It doesn't change anything in my mind. Bowe either plays or he doesnt and he gets paid or he doesn't.

I think it shows nobody was willing to give up a 1st and pay him so that does set his value some.

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572420)
LOL.


Bowe is a good WR, nothing more, nothing less. One thing is certain, he is not worth top 5 money.

Besides, how would you feel if the team you played for contiuously started a piece of shit at QB, and that POS QB is directly tied to your production?


He is as good as gone after this year, so why not get something for him?

Why do dumb Chiefs fans undervalue our great players?

crazycoffey 04-27-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8572382)
I'm assuming it was for a pick last night. There was some chatter last night that the Cheifs were attepmting to trade back into the first round. Maybe this was how they were doing it. :shrug:

I was thinking about this when Pittsburgh was coming around, if Bowe's not going to sign a long term and wants out, that should have been the target.

notorious 04-27-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8572439)
I was thinking about this when Pittsburgh was coming around, if Bowe's not going to sign a long term and wants out, that should have been the target.

Pittsburgh avoids Bowe-like players.

The Bad Guy 04-27-2012 07:46 AM

I don't believe this for one second.

Direckshun 04-27-2012 07:46 AM

Maybe the Chiefs really did like Michael Floyd.

Coogs 04-27-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 8572424)
Every time some bullshit rumor gets spread around this board all you knee jerk jerks start spewing projectile feces out of your keyboards about how terrible the Chiefs and every one connected with the team are.

Hell, I've even seen someone start a new thread with a "What would you think if the Chiefs did so-and-so" and immediately 100 posters will reply by saying they can't believe those damn Chiefs are considering such a thing.

This place is Tard City...LMAO

GoChiefs provided a link. I don't think it is a bullshit rumor.

Rausch 04-27-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572443)
Pittsburgh avoids Bowe-like players.

Yup.

Once Burress started to look like a problem they let him walk...

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572443)
Pittsburgh avoids Bowe-like players.

Mike Wallace?

notorious 04-27-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8572444)
I don't believe this for one second.

I don't either. It is fun to play the game, though.

crazycoffey 04-27-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572443)
Pittsburgh avoids Bowe-like players.

Todd is now their OC .....

sedated 04-27-2012 07:47 AM

This is not "news". This is a "rumor".

Unless it was on twitter, in that case it must be legit.

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8572447)
Yup.

Once Burress started to look like a problem they let him walk...

Its easy to do that when you have a ****ing QB.

crazycoffey 04-27-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8572454)
Its easy to do that when you have a ****ing QB.

And Ben is a QB that likes to ****....

notorious 04-27-2012 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8572454)
Its easy to do that when you have a ****ing QB.

This.


QB makes everyone look better.

Direckshun 04-27-2012 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572443)
Pittsburgh avoids Bowe-like players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8572447)
Yup.

Once Burress started to look like a problem they let him walk...

You guys.... seriously.

Bowe has had zero character issues. He's a high character, elite talent at WR.

Trading him off would have been disasterous. I'm glad we failed.

BoneKrusher 04-27-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8572365)
Yup. **** that fat ****ing asshole named Scott Pioli.

He is death.

i agree.

Graystoke 04-27-2012 07:50 AM

Why would the Chiefs do that?

notorious 04-27-2012 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8572457)
You guys.... seriously.

Bowe has had zero character issues. He's a high character, elite talent at WR.

Trading him off would have been disasterous. I'm glad we failed.

I was comparing the money part of it.

The elite WR's they have dropped in the past weren't exactly known as bad people until they left the Steelers. They wanted a shit-ton of money and Pittsburgh said no thanks.

Gonzo 04-27-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 8572424)
Every time some bullshit rumor gets spread around this board all you knee jerk jerks start spewing projectile feces out of your keyboards about how terrible the Chiefs and every one connected with the team are.

Hell, I've even seen someone start a new thread with a "What would you think if the Chiefs did so-and-so" and immediately 100 posters will reply by saying they can't believe those damn Chiefs are considering such a thing.

This place is Tard City...LMAO

Water is wet and fire is hot...

You're stating nothing new here, whatsoever. This place is full of morons and dickshits that expect something new every April but never get it.

I am damn proud to say that I did not watch one minute of the Draft last night. Not a ****ing second of it. I knew the Chiefs would pick who they always pick, Glentyson Jackdorsey. I was right.

Today they'll pick some project WR or DB and then in round 3 or 4, we'll get another QBOTF that specializes in clip-board holding and he will become the next headset wearing Joe Montana according to 85% of the CP population.

BoneKrusher 04-27-2012 07:52 AM

Bowe's probably making some noise about signing with the chiefs because KC has nada QB on the roster worth a crap.

crazycoffey 04-27-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8572455)
And Ben is a QB that likes to ****....

Even if she doesn't want to.


Buh dump bump

Fritz88 04-27-2012 07:53 AM

Someone tell me why isn't trading Bowe going to save Pioli money?

Damn it Pioli.
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notorious 04-27-2012 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8572471)
Even if she doesn't want to.


Buh dump bump

When she screams,"Somebody help me!!!!!!!!" she really means "Yes".

Rausch 04-27-2012 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8572474)
When she screams,"Somebody help me!!!!!!!!" she really means "Yes".

No one can stop Ben Ruthlessrapist from scoring!1!:cuss:

YayMike 04-27-2012 07:56 AM

I call bullshit.

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8572457)
You guys.... seriously.

Bowe has had zero character issues. He's a high character, elite talent at WR.

Trading him off would have been disasterous. I'm glad we failed.

No. Bowe is clearly average. Notorious said so. Cut him.

BossChief 04-27-2012 08:07 AM

I've heard that Bowes contract demands were reasonable till the Megatron deal.

Same draft class, similar production.

"I want the moon and all the cheese in it!"

Pasta Little Brioni 04-27-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8572402)
Hey Pioli, how about offering some 1st round picks and BOWE to the Rams 2 months ago, you piece of crap.

JFC LMAO guess we hadn't reached full reerun yet.

I'm suuuuure the Rams would have jumped at that.

Direckshun 04-27-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8572500)
I've heard that Bowes contract demands were reasonable till the Megatron deal.

Same draft class, similar production.

"I want the moon and all the cheese in it!"

Sounds legit. Where'd you hear the rumor?

Rasputin 04-27-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8572444)
I don't believe this for one second.

This.

DaKCMan AP 04-27-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8572500)
I've heard that Bowes contract demands were reasonable till the Megatron deal.

Same draft class, similar production.

"I want the moon and all the cheese in it!"

Since when does 200yds & 3TDs more per season equal similar production?

MMXcalibur 04-27-2012 08:15 AM

Normally, I'd say some sarcastic comment and be done with it, but no...this actually pisses me off. He's the lone reason we have any semblance of a passing attack. You could either have Carr or Bowe, you chose Bowe, so now you better damn well sign his ass to longer than a year.

htismaqe 04-27-2012 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8572447)
Yup.

Once Burress started to look like a problem they let him walk...

Come on man, there's ZERO comparison between Bowe and Hopalong Cassidy.

htismaqe 04-27-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8572448)
Mike Wallace?

Egg-freakin-zackly.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-27-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8572396)
We would never get a first round pick for Bowe. Nobody is going to give a premium pick and then pay Bowe a huge contract. Two seconds or a second and a third is the best the Chiefs could hope to get for Bowe.

SHUT
THE
****
UP
!!!!!!

Rausch 04-27-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8572530)
Come on man, there's ZERO comparison between Bowe and Hopalong Cassidy.

I didn't say Bowe was capping himself, I said a problem.

Burress was acting the prima donna and wanting the big money. He wasn't worth top 10 money and they let him walk.

TimeForWasp 04-27-2012 08:32 AM

Rumor if true, What if Bowe or his agent requested a trade. We don't know shit.

mikey23545 04-27-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8572446)
GoChiefs provided a link. I don't think it is a bullshit rumor.

A link to some tweet?!!?!

Good grief...LMAO

Urc Burry 04-27-2012 08:36 AM

So it sounds like the plan really was to draft Floyd at 11, and Poe with our second 1st... wow. I wonder if we will consider 2 2nd's or try and retain him

Coogs 04-27-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 8572568)
A link to some tweet?!!?!

Good grief...LMAO

Whatever dude!

I just thought some out of town posters might like to know what was being said with regards to last night.

TEX 04-27-2012 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 8572521)
Normally, I'd say some sarcastic comment and be done with it, but no...this actually pisses me off. He's the lone reason we have any semblance of a passing attack. You could either have Carr or Bowe, you chose Bowe, so now you better damn well sign his ass to longer than a year.

Exactly. However, technically we could have had both. We had the room. :banghead:


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