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donkhater 04-28-2012 10:50 AM

We could have had Pittsburgh's draft
 
They had one pick in every round way after KC and got:

DeCastro, OG
Mike Adams , OT
Sean Spence, OLB
Alameda Ta'amu, DT

I like that list better.

Hoover 04-28-2012 10:51 AM

YOU CANT TAKE A GAURD THAT HIGH

Hoover 04-28-2012 10:51 AM

TWO OFFENSIVE LINEMEN IN THE FRIST TWO ROUNDS

mcaj22 04-28-2012 10:52 AM

and thats why Pittsburgh is competitive every year

Simplicity 04-28-2012 10:52 AM

Poe loves men... Therefor... We got our next Shaun Smith.

Hoover 04-28-2012 10:52 AM

Serious question, how different is Alameda Ta'amu than Powe

Last year people wanted to take Powe in the 2nd rounder just like this guy.

sedated 04-28-2012 10:53 AM

Pittsburgh killed this draft.

The Bad Guy 04-28-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8577390)
Serious question, how different is Alameda Ta'amu than Powe

Last year people wanted to take Powe in the 2nd rounder just like this guy.

He can read?

donkhater 04-28-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8577382)
and thats why Pittsburgh is competitive every year

No they have Big Ben. THAT'S why they are competitive every year. I was just commenting that their selections are at the same positions as KC's. I think that thiers are better.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2012 10:59 AM

I don't like their 2nd and 3rd round picks.

Urc Burry 04-28-2012 10:59 AM

I prefer ours :shrug:

Bewbies 04-28-2012 11:00 AM

DeCastro shall lead them to the promised land.

chiefzilla1501 04-28-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8577390)
Serious question, how different is Alameda Ta'amu than Powe

Last year people wanted to take Powe in the 2nd rounder just like this guy.

According to scouts, it's 3 rounds of a difference.

evolve27 04-28-2012 11:30 AM

Drafting back ups in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds makes a ton of sense!

milkman 04-28-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8577377)
YOU CANT TAKE A GAURD THAT HIGH

A guard in the mid-late first round is an okay pick.

A guard in the fiirst half of the first round is stupid.

Red Dawg 04-28-2012 11:35 AM

There is nothing wrong with our draft. All teams need depth and having beef in the trnches is a must for any team to win. We are getting the depth we lack. We do need another safety and RB for sure.

saphojunkie 04-28-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577558)
A guard in the mid-late first round is an okay pick.

A guard in the fiirst half of the first round is stupid.

Ugh...this is so stupid. There is no ****ing difference between the #11 and the #25 pick. If your guy is gone by round two, he's gone. "You don't shoot a guy at point blank range if you have a sniper rifle!" You do if he's your target.

Unless you don't think Poe would have slid to where DeCastro did. But he would have.

Whatever, we'll see who drafted better on Monday Night Football, when Poe goes against DeCastro and Ta'Amu goes against Jeff Allen.

Bewbies 04-28-2012 11:40 AM

I'm shocked that DeCastro lasted so far into the first. Clearly he was the top talent in the draft, and at a game changing position. Indy picked the wrong Cardinal.

chiefzilla1501 04-28-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8577585)
Ugh...this is so stupid. There is no ****ing difference between the #11 and the #25 pick. If your guy is gone by round two, he's gone. "You don't shoot a guy at point blank range if you have a sniper rifle!" You do if he's your target.

The first round of the draft is your only opportunity to bring in impact players. Guards are NOT impact players. They are "nice to haves." At the end of the first round, most of your impact or raw impact players are gone. In the beginning of the first round, you don't let those opportunities slip.

A Guard is a ridiculous reach. 1) the best Guards always go at the bottom of the second; 2) very good Guards can be had in the 2nd and 3rd round. It's possible the Chiefs found a solid starter without having to burn a #11 pick; 3) Guards are the easiest position to find in free agency.

milkman 04-28-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8577585)
Ugh...this is so stupid. There is no ****ing difference between the #11 and the #25 pick. If your guy is gone by round two, he's gone. "You don't shoot a guy at point blank range if you have a sniper rifle!" You do if he's your target.

Unless you don't think Poe would have slid to where DeCastro did. But he would have.

Whatever, we'll see who drafted better on Monday Night Football, when Poe goes against DeCastro and Ta'Amu goes against Jeff Allen.

I don't give a rat's ass of DeCastro, or any ****ing guard, doesn't make back around to my 2nd round selection.

Guard is not an impact position, and I am not wasting a high first round pick on a ****ing non differene making position.

Go **** yourself.

Chief Pote 04-28-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577600)
I don't give a rat's ass of DeCastro, or any ****ing guard, doesn't make back around to my 2nd round selection.

Guard is not an impact position, and I am not wasting a high first round pick on a ****ing non differene making position.

Go **** yourself.

Hi Dane.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-28-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8577585)
Ugh...this is so stupid. There is no ****ing difference between the #11 and the #25 pick. If your guy is gone by round two, he's gone. "You don't shoot a guy at point blank range if you have a sniper rifle!" You do if he's your target.

Unless you don't think Poe would have slid to where DeCastro did. But he would have.

Whatever, we'll see who drafted better on Monday Night Football, when Poe goes against DeCastro and Ta'Amu goes against Jeff Allen.

I agree 100%. They said the same thing about drafting a Safety with the 5th pick, and I think we'd all agree that we'd still want Berry with that 5th pick. If DeCastro is say...a 7-time Pro Bowl G (he's been compared to Hutchinson and Wisniewski) and your team has a need at G, then he is an impact player for your team! 14 spots on a draft board doesn't impact that in the slightest, except in terms of salary.

Bewbies 04-28-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 8577627)
I agree 100%. They said the same thing about drafting a Safety with the 5th pick, and I think we'd all agree that we'd still want Berry with that 5th pick. If DeCastro is say...a 7-time Pro Bowl G (he's been compared to Hutchinson and Wisniewski) and your team has a need at G, then he is an impact player for your team! 14 spots on a draft board doesn't impact that in the slightest, except in terms of salary.

Absolutely! The NFL is full of idiots that don't understand this...!

JohnnyHammersticks 04-28-2012 12:04 PM

Herm Edwards is a complete embarrassment. I can't stand the guy, and I still almost feel sorry for how big of a fool he makes of himself on ESPN. Does anyone else have a hard time watching him? Maybe it's just me.

TimeForWasp 04-28-2012 12:08 PM

All the steelers picks are rape charge prone.

WhitiE 04-28-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 8577685)
Herm Edwards is a complete embarrassment. I can't stand the guy, and I still almost feel sorry for how big of a fool he makes of himself on ESPN. Does anyone else have a hard time watching him? Maybe it's just me.

I can't stand herm

qabbaan 04-28-2012 12:13 PM

A nose tackle that works out is between us and a top flight defense. Obviously they believe the comparisons between Poe and Ngata. Either way, it's not some left field pick.

Our offensive line was pathetic last year. This offseason we have added two new starters and now look like our line will be very good. When you are behind the eight ball at QB, there is no reason not to improve the line. And out depth was horrendous last year.

I don't see major issues with our draft. I never thought people would bash their heads against the wall over not spending a high pick on a guard. I think people just love to bitch

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577558)
A guard in the mid-late first round is an okay pick.

A guard in the fiirst half of the first round is stupid.

You haven't dropped dead yet? You are an old, rotting piece of shit

Explain why the Chiefs couldn't have looked to trade down and still be in a position to draft DeCastro.

If they couldn't find a trade partner, I'd still rather have as close to a sure fire thing in the draft (as DeCastro is) than the next Junior Siavii.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577600)
I don't give a rat's ass of DeCastro, or any ****ing guard, doesn't make back around to my 2nd round selection.

Guard is not an impact position, and I am not wasting a high first round pick on a ****ing non differene making position.

Go **** yourself.

Yeah Will Shields wasn't an impact player.

milkman 04-28-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577735)
You haven't dropped dead yet you old, rotting piece of shit?

Explain why the Chiefs couldn't have looked to trade down and still be in a position to draft DeCastro.

If they couldn't find a trade partner, I'd still rather have as close to a sure fire thing in the draft (as DeCastro is) than the next Junior Siavii.

You've proven over and over again that you are nothing more than a monkey with a keyboard, so I really don't give a rat's ass what you have to say.

Go get a banana and keep pounding away.

milkman 04-28-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577739)
Yeah Will Shields wasn't an impact player.

Monkey.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577747)
You've proven over and over again that you are nothing more than a monkey with a keyboard, so I really don't give a rat's ass what you have to say.

Go get a banana and keep pounding away.

You have proven time and time again that you are about 10 years past your expiration date.

Drop dead already.

milkman 04-28-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577756)
You have proven time and time again that you are about 10 years past your expiration date.

Drop dead already.

Monkey.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577763)
Monkey.

LMAO What a dumbshit.

I own your old rotting ass.

Direckshun 04-28-2012 12:24 PM

Really the only player of that list I have any interest in is Sean Spence.

Why would I want DeCastro at 11? Mike Adams at all? Ta'amu as a two-gap 3-4?

It may work for the Steel, but it's not what the Chiefs want.

qabbaan 04-28-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577735)
Explain why the Chiefs couldn't have looked to trade down and still be in a position to draft DeCastro.

I love this DeCastro stuff. You'd have loved the pick if they had taken him at 11. That would have been ten spots too high, but youd have cheered because you dont know what the enitre league seemed to think - that DeCastro was overrated.

But since he almost fell all the way out of the first round, now you get to say "we should have traded down!"

Optimum bitching potential

milkman 04-28-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577773)
LMAO What a dumbshit.

I own your old rotting ass.

I'm probably 20 years older than you, monkey, in better shape, and better looking.

You have been owned by everyone you've ever argued with on this forum.

This is how you proved to be a monkey, monkey.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577816)
I'm probably 20 years older than you, monkey, in better shape, and better looking.

You have been owned by everyone you've ever argued with on this forum.

This is how you proved to be a monkey, monkey.

I have owned your old, rotting ass to the point that it would be considered elderly abuse.

petegz28 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

The Chiefs have drafted just fine. We have all our starters in place for the most part. This draft was all about a NT and depth. It's as simple as that. There is no one really on our starting 22 that we were going to bench for anyone we drafted save 1 or 2 spots...maybe.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-28-2012 12:33 PM

OH MY GOD IT SPINS

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8577806)
But since he almost fell all the way out of the first round, now you get to say "we should have traded down!"

Optimum bitching potential


How did DeCastro "almost fall all the way out of the first round" if he was drafted in the first round by Pittsburgh?

Explain that one dumbshit.

Ming the Merciless 04-28-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 8577414)
No they have Big Ben. THAT'S why they are competitive every year.

Oh that's odd...I thought it might have something to do with the amazing defenses and crazy solid offensive lines.....

I would say Big Ben has been the beneficiary of a very,very solid team....

milkman 04-28-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577864)
I have owned your old, rotting ass to the point that it would be considered elderly abuse.

Keep telling yourself that Cheetah.

Even monkeys need affirmation.

beach tribe 04-28-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577756)
You have proven time and time again that you are about 10 years past your expiration date.

Drop dead already.

Expired goods are much better than a fresh pile of shit.

beach tribe 04-28-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8577886)
Oh that's odd...I thought it might have something to do with the amazing defenses and crazy solid offensive lines.....

I would say Big Ben has been the beneficiary of a very,very solid team....

And that team has ZERO SBs without him.

milkman 04-28-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8577886)
Oh that's odd...I thought it might have something to do with the amazing defenses and crazy solid offensive lines.....

I would say Big Ben has been the beneficiary of a very,very solid team....

Tell us, how many SBs did the Steelers win in the eras between Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger?

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8577867)
The Chiefs have drafted just fine. We have all our starters in place for the most part. This draft was all about a NT and depth. It's as simple as that. There is no one really on our starting 22 that we were going to bench for anyone we drafted save 1 or 2 spots...maybe.

JFC the Fat Scott dumbshit homers are out in full force (led by the 800 year old rotting corpse who claims that Will Shields wasn't an impact player).

Good teams who draft well don't reach for crappy players simply to fill a need.

The Chiefs did exactly that. The only way Poe is going to be an effective NFL starter is if every game of his career is played at the NFL Combine.

Ming the Merciless 04-28-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577864)
I have owned your old, rotting ass to the point that it would be considered elderly abuse.

Dear Sir,

Milkman may be a complete knob gobbler but you are an insult to knob gobblers the world over. You guys deserve each other. Perhaps get a motel room and share the knob gobbling experience and learn and grow from him and become a more sensitive, experienced knob gobbler. You can learn from him. Best of luck to you in your knob gobbling endeavors.

Alfred Mower

qabbaan 04-28-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577885)
How did DeCastro "almost fall all the way out of the first round" if he was drafted in the first round by Pittsburgh?

Explain that one dumbshit.

Because he was picked at #24 and there are 32 picks in a round, genius.

He only went a couple of spots ahead of Zeiter.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577898)
Keep telling yourself that Cheetah.

Even monkeys need affirmation.

The crackling of your arteries hardening is obviously affecting your ability to type a halfway coherent post.

Go drown in your Metamucil, you old piece of shit.

milkman 04-28-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8577911)
Dear Sir,

Milkman may be a complete knob gobbler but you are an insult to knob gobblers the world over. You guys deserve each other. Perhaps get a motel room and share the knob gobbling experience and learn and grow from him and become a more sensitive, experienced knob gobbler. You can learn from him. Best of luck to you in your knob gobbling endeavors.

Alfred Mower

I'm touched.

:deevee:

milkman 04-28-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577922)
The crackling of your arteries hardening is obviously affecting your ability to type a halfway coherent post.

Go drown in your Metamucil, you old piece of shit.

It's not my fault that monkeys don't have a highly developed ability to read and comprehend, Cheetah.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577938)
It's not my fault that monkeys don't have a highly developed ability to read and comprehend, Cheetah.

You need 2 kilos of viagra to get your rotting dick alive enough to insert in your beloved Fat Scott's tank ass.

People your age belong six feet under.

milkman 04-28-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577945)
You need 2 kilos of viagra to get your rotting dick alive enough to insert in your beloved Fat Scott's tank ass.

People your age belong six feet under.

Well, hopefuly you remember you said that when you start to reach my age.

No one will miss you.

Bye.

FloridaMan88 04-28-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577958)
Well, hopefuly you remember you said that when you start to reach my age.

No one will miss you.

Bye.

Must suck for you, at your advanced age, with little time left to realize that any hope of watching the Chiefs win another Super Bowl in your lifetime is virtually impossible with Fat Scott as GM.

scho63 04-28-2012 01:17 PM

YOU LADIES FIGHT NICE NOW! No low blows.....LOL

whoman69 04-28-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 8577414)
No they have Big Ben. THAT'S why they are competitive every year. I was just commenting that their selections are at the same positions as KC's. I think that thiers are better.

They were good long before they had Ben. Neil O'Donnel took them to a Super Bowl. They know what they are doing. Everything is planned. They don't restock, they reload. Considering they are usually picking in the 20s, the fact that they can keep their talent level going without FA is amazing.

sedated 04-28-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8577908)
Tell us, how many SBs did the Steelers win in the eras between Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger?

They went to one with Neil O'Donnel.

milkman 04-28-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8578478)
They went to one with Neil O'Donnel.

Really?

Thanks for the newsflash.

Wonder if Larry Brown remembers that?

RealSNR 04-28-2012 04:09 PM

Pittsburgh's draft is an abortion as well. I wouldn't have wanted that.

This thing is rivaling 2009 in terms of awful shit.

At least we didn't get stuck with Matt Cassel this year

Coogs 04-28-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8577945)
People your age belong six feet under.

Hey, Hey, Hey!!! Careful dude! There's quite a few of us in the MM age bracket here!

Deberg_1990 04-28-2012 04:26 PM

I like how a lot of fans know whether or not guys can play before they even step on the field. Amazing.
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Ming the Merciless 04-28-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8577907)
And that team has ZERO SBs without him.

O really I thought they won a few b4 him...

Thanks for your input


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