Howard ready to be a Laker
 

I wonder if he likes licking asses.

Who cares.

That team will be NBA Finals bound if he goes there.

It will be tough to get past OKC, but with Howard/Nash they'll be able to do that.

I'm ready too.

If he does go there then Westbrook better develop a better shot because even though he'll blaze past Nash, his weak layups are going to get rejected likes its practice with Ibaka.

Suck it, Heat. You will lose.

If it goes through, next years finals will be the best since The Showtime Lakers and Jordans Bulls.

keep doubting Antawn Jamison

Steve Nash
Kobe Bryant
Metta World Peace
Pau Gasol
Dwight Howard

My lord...that's a scary starting 5.

That is a ridiculous front line as far as defense goes as well...love it...

Unless the Magic greatly reduce their price for Howard then Pau wont be a Laker.

I wonder if OJ Mayo could play an undersized 3 role with that team.

If they did that, THEN I'd for sure be calling them the champs

They aren't getting Pau and Bynum.

What are you talking about...Gasol will not be in this trade, he's not even being discussed.

And the Lakers arent getting Howard for Bynum.

What trade? All that has been said is that Howard will now sign an extension with the Lakers and a package built around Bynum is what it would take. You are nuts if you think the Lakers are going to get Howard for Bynum and the few scrub bench players the Lakers have.

Why not? Dwight has the leverage, not the Magic.

They want a player they actually have a shot at resigning.

Edit: Obviously there will be other pieces, but the Lakers won't give up Gasol now that they have Nash.

Cleveland is part of the deal.
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The trade being discussed is Bynum to Cleveland, Varejao and cap relief and other parts to Orlando, and Howard to the Lakers.

It's going to happen...

What else is Orlando going to do? They have ZERO leverage.

Really? You think there needs to be a 3rd team involved because the Magic would rather have Varejao over Bynum. Seriously...?

You're dumb.

Bynum isn't going to re-sign with Orlando. That's why that deal was never on the table. Bynum mentioned interest in Cleveland. If he can negotiate a contract with Cleveland (and I bet they will gladly throw a ton of cash at him), the deal is pretty much a slam dunk. I think the only reason the last version of this deal shut down is because Bynum was on a fishing trip and he hadn't given Cleveland any assurance that he would sign a new deal beyond this season.

please stop... your making my head hurt. just back away quietly

He is wrong about every ****ing sport.
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"After the 2012-2013" Season"? WTF kinda dumbass shit is that?

This guy wants to be traded to L.A, and then not sign an extension till his contract is up?

And the lakers are suppose to be OK with that?

**** that guy. He's so FoS.

"One source familiar with the talks, though, cautioned not to make too much of that shift just yet.

The Cavaliers would land Lakers center Andrew Bynum for a package of draft picks and veteran power forward Anderson Varejao, according to one league source. The Lakers would receive Howard for Bynum. Orlando would get Varejao and draft picks. The source said this was merely the framework of a deal being discussed."

Varejao for Howard.

I've heard some thing before but damn, that one's a doozy.

If the Magic give up Howard for Varejao and a bunch of useless draft picks then feel free to send crow to my front door.

after or during doesn't really matter. l.a. can give him the most money

expiring contact, guaranteed first round picks.

magic want a clean slate

Unless he decides he would rather go sign in Brooklyn after his one year is up in L.A.

His word is worthless. If i were L.A, i would say extend contract now, or **** you.

so you turned down Marshon Brooks and Brooks Lopez for ****ing ANDY ****ING VERAJO AND PICKS

thats the best you can do? How is that better than Marshon and Lopez? It's not even close.

Unless they are top 5 picks, which they likely wont be with Cleveland getting Bynum to go with Irving, then those picks aren't worth much.

Regardless, getting Howard for a year is probably better than them having Bynum for a year, who could leave next year anyways.

Also, Brooklyn can't offer as much as LA can to Dwight and they'd have to find someone to take Brook Lopez before they got Dwight.

They have his Bird rights, can give him the biggest contract...he'd re-sign in L.A.

Anyways, rumors are the Lakers are willing to make the deal with a reassurance or not so it doesn't really matter.

impossible for him to go to Brooklyn now. l.a. will have his bird rights so they can give him more money than any other team

The picks they would have been getting from Brooklyn wouldn't have amounted to shit either.

The players they would have got are far better so what is your point?

If they want him, they have no choice, extention is 3 years max, a new contract is 5 years. So itsin Howards best interest to not sign ANYTHING until his contract is UP

Obviously they don't want a maxed out Brook Lopez...they want cap relief, picks, and an asset like Varejao that they can move again for more picks, etc.

If Brooklyn had the best deal, Dwight would be a Net.

if they don't trade him and he walks away next season what do they get then?

Why the **** would they want to give Brook Lopez a max contract?

This way they are clearing out so much salary they can build from the ground up again.

There doesn't appear to be any other deal to do this, given that Howard is so specific about where he wants to go. The options are pretty limited. I have a feeling they will be asking Cleveland for quite a few picks, and I bet Cleveland would fork them up. I don't think Cleveland's picks are necessarily useless. They have three first round picks, including their own. You figure even with Bynum, they still have a chance of being a lottery pick. In any event, three first round picks can easily be traded up to get a lottery pick.

We can call Orlando stupid if we want. I think they are in general. But I think Dwight Howard is such a dick bag that he's not giving them much in terms of options.

If the Lakers get Howard they are the new favorites.

I like this deal for Cleveland too. Don't like it for Orlando at all.

Honestly, with the position he has put them in I'd get more satisfaction letting him rot. Cleveland would be a playoff team easily IMO with Bynum, so those picks become not great anyway.

Dwight Howard really has ****ed Orlando. It would be hard to come off as a bigger douche than this.

Pau and Bynum for Howard?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I think the GM has ****ed Orlando now too. Past and present.

Hennigan has a chance to acquire Bynum and doesn't want him.

You are getting a 3rd team involved. You are no longer shopping Howard to other teams. You are looking for teams that want Bynum. Where are the Bulls? I can't think of any reason this "framework" deal goes any farther than the Nets deal. Orlando might as well release him. WTF are you going to rebuild with Varejao and a handful of mid-late first round picks?

Hennigan knows the Thunder want Varejao bad.

They are also aiming to shed 2 awful contracts in Hedo and J-Rich in the process. That's a big chip for other teams to take. The cap relief for Orlando would be the biggest prize.

I want Howard but I dont want him. The guy seems more like a primma donna than usual.

However at this point, so much has happened that keeping Bynum, and keeping him happy, may be extremely difficult. I think theyve gone too far and need to trade for him.

Cleveland may be the one holding it up at this point without a guarantee from Bynum

It's funny but really the key trade of the entire offseason was Joe Johnson

Which is insane to me because contrary to reports I DO think he'd sign there long term.

They'd build the team around him and he'd basically be the star who they add onto...not to mention, they could give him a max deal.

And he'd be stuck with the same overpaid middle of the road team that Howard couldn't win with. Orlando's best move is what they seem to be trying to do, which is to clear the books and bottom out, and try to draft another star.

NBA is turning into what baseball was a few years ago: 4 to 6 teams with all the best players and each year in the playoffs and nobody else in contention. Now baseball tweaked things and it's getting back to being competitive for many teams like football and growing attendance.

Basketball is going the wrong way- a few elite teams with all the stars and the rest of the league sucks! That's why attendance and revenues are down. No more Bird vs Magic, Jabbar vs Russell, Big E vs Willis Reed, Jerry West vs Oscar Robertson, DR J, Darryl Dawkins, Walt Frazier

Oh brother another clueless fan.

No they won't because presumably they're going to be able to shed at least one if not two of those horrible contracts.

They wouldn't be able to unload them on LA. They'd be making the trade for the 2nd best big man in the league that they would be able to keep beyond next season.

We can only hope

Just go already. This has been going on way too long.

Didn't really want Howard before but after getting Nash, I'm hoping we can get him. Howard would benefit from Nash much more than Bynum would IMO.
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As of the past few weeks, its been Orlandos fault that a deal isn't done yet. They're really dragging their feet on this one.
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You have two things wrong in a short sentence...

I am far from clueless

And the fact that I used to spend big bucks at basketball games and now I spend ZERO means they lost a great fan with a nice revenue stream. Other friends are doing the same

You should never be in charge of marketing for any professional sports firm because you suck at it....

Nash would benefit from Howard as well.

NBA is stronger than it has ever been. TV ratings are back to Jordan levels, there is talent all throughout the league. All because you are stuck in the 80s doesn't mean the NBA is.

I don't know if i'd say stronger than it's ever been. Last years playoffs were lame as ****.

Completely disagree.

Basketball is on a huge incline right now. Ratings are going up and up for them.

Other teams CAN compete. They have to have a good front office and you can. Check out the Spurs they have been in the mix for 10 plus years and who the hell wants to live in San Antonio over the other big cities? Its all about being smart. OKC another small market thats, well drafted right and its working and their players are signing long term deals.

Basketball has been the best it has been the last 3-4 years then it ever did imo since the 80's.

The NBA is definately back on the rise. The playoffs were damn entertaining.

I can't disagree. I'd definitely take Bynum over a number of mediocre draft picks even though Bynum has issues.

It's pretty obvious you didn't watch the playoffs.

You keep saying but it's obvious I did your Thudner got Sanduskied.



Last years playoffs come nowhere near the dogfights between the Knicks/Pacers, Knicks/Heat, Bulls/Heat, Bulls/Pistons, etc.

The only thing wrong with the playoffs was watching my Lakers lose and LeQueef end up with a ring.

Bulls/Heat?

God damn your a dumb ****.

You also know the playoffs start before the Finals, right?

Your Durant soft comments referenced only the Finals and college games he played 6 years ago.

I hope Durant turns into a pile of mush.

Please stop commenting on the NBA.

Yeah that wasn't a typo or anything.


You really should relax do you take everything so seriously?

Orlando really needs to work it out with Houston instead of the Cavs

Believe me, I don't take anything you say seriously. That doesn't mean I can't call you out for being a dumb ****.

Please stop commenting on shit you don't watch.

I would think anything would be better than that proposed trade with Cleveland.

I'd be trying to get the Bulls involved for Noah.

I get the whole trying to dump salary and shit but if you want to just give players away then you do it with Hedo, not the best center in the game. You need to at least get something in return for him that you can build a foundation with.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81...re-free-agency

Won't have to worry about it anyways.

Yeah I don't watch the NBA but I posted a thread about it lol


Typical Oklahoman. If I lived in a clay piece of shit i'd be angry too.

Don't be so sure. Lakers can roll the dice on this one.

You say Durant was soft when he was clearly the 2nd best player in the playoffs. You cited you reasons as the Finals and games he played as a 17 year old freshman 6 years ago. You list Bulls/Heat as a classic series then call it a typo.

You can read an ESPN story and create a thread. More than a 80's Nebraska football player can pull off and I'm proud of you.

Yes, you watch a few minutes of the Finals and talk out your ass.

Because I call you out as a dumb **** doesn't make me angry it makes you a dumb **** and me observant.

A Nebraskan calling out a place for having nothing to do. That's pretty ****ing funny.

Do they need to? It's not like they are hurting for a center. Bynum is pretty damn good and I would say he's probably more athletic than Howard. If you think he can stay healthy there's no reason to risk it.