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dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 07:17 AM
Maas on 610 - There's no leadership...bring Marty as consultant
 
Discuss :D

dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 07:18 AM
In case it's not clear...they're talking about consultant that only reports to Clark and gives him straight talk on what's happening and not happening to make the org better.

LOCOChief 10-01-2012 07:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966155)
In case it's not clear...they're talking about consultant that only reports to Clark and gives him straight talk on what's happening and not happening to make the org better.
Yes. Never happen though.

Ace Gunner 10-01-2012 07:21 AM
you mean bring in marty with a vest bomb. good idea.

ChiTown 10-01-2012 07:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966155)
In case it's not clear...they're talking about consultant that only reports to Clark and gives him straight talk on what's happening and not happening to make the org better.
Just bring in a GM that isn't a ****ing reerun. That would be a huge help right there. I'm sick of Pioli. Crennel is waaaaaay in over his head, and Cassel as a QB is a gawdamn disaster. Enough already. Get rid of Pioli and get a GM in here that knows wtf he is doing.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-01-2012 07:24 AM
I'd bring in Marty as the D coordinator. With this talent he would shut teams down ! Make Romeo the D line coach and bring back Vermiel to run the Offense

dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 07:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8966165)
Just bring in a GM that isn't a ****ing reerun. That would be a huge help right there. I'm sick of Pioli. Crennel is waaaaaay in over his head, and Cassel as a QB is a gawdamn disaster. Enough already. Get rid of Pioli and get a GM in here that knows wtf he is doing.
Of course. But this is a "mid season band-aid" idea, if I'm hearing him correctly. It salvages the season and repairs some of the fan-damage. It also gets obvious decisions moving that should have been made long ago. After the season is over, you fire Pioli and reset the deck.

jspchief 10-01-2012 07:29 AM
Marty in any role is better than this current shit stain. Put him in at QB for all I care.

jspchief 10-01-2012 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966177)
... It salvages the season and repairs some of the fan-damage.
No. Nothing positive come from salvaging this season.

suds79 10-01-2012 07:31 AM
Screw that. This team doesn't need a consultant.

They need a new GM who will draft good players, higher the right coaches and pick the right QB in the 1st next year.

Boom. Problem solved.

Hammock Parties 10-01-2012 07:31 AM
Maas is a ****ing mouthbreather.

We need the guy Scott Pioli was supposed to be.

ChiTown 10-01-2012 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966177)
Of course. But this is a "mid season band-aid" idea, if I'm hearing him correctly. It salvages the season and repairs some of the fan-damage. It also gets obvious decisions moving that should have been made long ago. After the season is over, you fire Pioli and reset the deck.
I don't want to salvage this season. Salvaging this shit house just allows the brain trust to keep pumping their BS into a losing proposition. I want this ****ing thing to implode. I want Pioli to be fully exposed for the dimwit that he is, and Cassel to finish out what could be a marvelous disaster of a season. I want it to be so ****ing clear that this is an AIDS infested sack of crap, that they have no choice but to hit the nuke button and start over..

Deberg_1990 10-01-2012 07:34 AM
Why does Maas still have a voice and why do people listen to it? Shouldnt he be in jail somewhere?

dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8966190)
I don't want to salvage this season. Salvaging this shit house just allows the brain trust to keep pumping their BS into a losing proposition. I want this ****ing thing to implode. I want Pioli to be fully exposed for the dimwit that he is, and Cassel to finish out what could be a marvelous disaster of a season. I want it to be so ****ing clear that this is an AIDS infested sack of crap, that they have no choice but to hit the nuke button and start over..
Don't disagree. But Maas is a football player and media talking-head now. He just hates watching the losing and covering a losing team. It's like the players. Not a SINGLE one of them would agree with us on tanking the season. Some might play like their dialing it in...but very few of them could swallow the idea of playing for draft picks or playing like junk to expose Pioli. If a consultant is hired, that's basically saying that this GM is on the clock and will undoubtedly achieve the results we're after - a new GM, coach and QB.

KCUnited 10-01-2012 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8966197)
Why does Maas still have a voice and why do people listen to it? Shouldnt he be in jail somewhere?
Maas' takes and "insider" info are typically garbage, but he is employed by Metro Sports and he does a really good job of breaking down the tape and highlighting the fail of individual players. It's really the only televised coverage in KC that breaks down individual plays, highlights individual players and showcases who is really ****ing up and who looks somewhat adequate.

notorious 10-01-2012 07:40 AM
:facepalm:

ILChief 10-01-2012 07:45 AM
No

Dayze 10-01-2012 08:02 AM
if the Chiefs defense can hold teams to under 17, and the Chiefs offesnse can run for 250 and have a TOP of 3:1, and our defense force 3 turnovers in their redzone.....Cassel can take us to the promise land.

kgrund 10-01-2012 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8966197)
Why does Maas still have a voice and why do people listen to it? Shouldnt he be in jail somewhere?
He likely knows a shit load more about football than you. He is actually one of the few local guys I listen extra close to. He knows what he is talking about.

bringbackmarty 10-01-2012 08:16 AM
As much as I absolutely loved marty for his defense and his running game, I fail to see how his input could help this team. We need someone who is skilled at evaluating qb's. He's not that guy. I don't think of him as a shrewd evaluator of other positions either. Maybe he had some success drafting LB, DL, CB. Still that's less than five players.

Predarat 10-01-2012 08:19 AM
Bring him in as the regular season coach, but hire a 'Playoff Cordinator' and send Marty on a paid vacation during the playoffs.

Deberg_1990 10-01-2012 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 8966295)
He likely knows a shit load more about football than you. He is actually one of the few local guys I listen extra close to. He knows what he is talking about.
The only think Maas has a wealth of info about is Blow and Guns.

notorious 10-01-2012 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 8966295)
He likely knows a shit load more about football than you. He is actually one of the few local guys I listen extra close to. He knows what he is talking about.
Tim Grunhard?

dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 8966299)
As much as I absolutely loved marty for his defense and his running game, I fail to see how his input could help this team. We need someone who is skilled at evaluating qb's. He's not that guy. I don't think of him as a shrewd evaluator of other positions either. Maybe he had some success drafting LB, DL, CB. Still that's less than five players.
I'm not sure that you understand what Maas is suggesting. He said hire Marty as a consultant that reports directly to Clark and analyzes what's going wrong with the organization. That evaluation would result in what we all know - Pioli is out of his league and is a "system GM".

Any GM that Clark would replace Pioli with would choose the coach and they would presumably find a QB. I can't imagine a consultant would have anything to do with evaluating and choosing a QB. Despite the vitriol for Marty that some have, Marty IS a leader that men listen to and he's well known, respected and liked in the NFL world.

More importantly, Clark apparently has an affinity for Marty and will LISTEN TO HIM...whereas Clark will NOT listen to us. Do you really think Marty would come to a different conclusion than we have? Same result...I could care less who gets credit. I just want Pioli gone.

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 8966299)
As much as I absolutely loved marty for his defense and his running game, I fail to see how his input could help this team. We need someone who is skilled at evaluating qb's. He's not that guy. I don't think of him as a shrewd evaluator of other positions either. Maybe he had some success drafting LB, DL, CB. Still that's less than five players.
Marty wins because he instills a fundamental winning football mindset into his players. Quickly.

If I was starting over with a franchise and wanted it to get competitive as quickly as possible, Marty would be #1 on my list.

Marty most likely would have several Super Bowl rings with several teams if not for bad breaks by players that were simply beyond his control. (Or in the case of San Diego, a psycho control freak GM.)

I wouldn't mind Marty as Director of Football Operations (or similar "consulting" position) one bit.

After the end of this perfect season.

One and Fifteeno for Geno.

Hydrae 10-01-2012 08:36 AM
I have been surprised by the lack of on-the-field leadership with this team. Pioli made a point of drafting team captain types but I don't see them on Sunday. I see no one with passion and fire getting in people's faces to fire them up also. This leads to slow starts, never leading a game all season except the final score in NO, and just a lackluster attitude from the team. Charles' big runs seems to get them fired up but we need someone who will get these players excited to play each week at the start of the game.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 08:38 AM
Clark doesn't need a damn consultant to tell him what's wrong. Stevie Wonder can see what is wrong with this team. Years of poor drafting, poor coaching and players who don't care.

Winston played like Richardson yesterday. Berry played like Piscatelli. Moeaki is useless. And what might be the most telling, Cassel has regressed. I didn't think it was humanly possible for a QB to get worse than Cassel in 2011. But, hell he's done it this year. He can't even dump off the ball accurately. It's amazing how bad every single facet of the game is.

gblowfish 10-01-2012 08:41 AM
Please, let's not talk about Marty again. He couldn't win when he was here before, what makes anybody think anything would be different a second time? Move on from Marty, go after somebody else: Gruden, Cowher, Hell, Tom Osborne, whoever....but no Marty re-runs.

Hammock Parties 10-01-2012 08:41 AM
Haley got more out of Cassel in 2011 than Daboll is this year.

KCTitus 10-01-2012 08:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8966339)
Marty wins because he instills a fundamental winning football mindset into his players. Quickly.

If I was starting over with a franchise and wanted it to get competitive as quickly as possible, Marty would be #1 on my list.
I shall remember to thank the Lord that you have no ability to make this awful decision on this franchise.

Quote:
Marty most likely would have several Super Bowl rings with several teams if not for bad breaks by players that were simply beyond his control. (Or in the case of San Diego, a psycho control freak GM.)
:facepalm:

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966351)
Clark doesn't need a damn consultant to tell him what's wrong. Stevie Wonder can see what is wrong with this team. Years of poor drafting, poor coaching and players who don't care.

Winston played like Richardson yesterday. Berry played like Piscatelli. Moeaki is useless. And what might be the most telling, Cassel has regressed. I didn't think it was humanly possible for a QB to get worse than Cassel in 2011. But, hell he's done it this year. He can't even dump off the ball accurately. It's amazing how bad every single facet of the game is.
That's coaching my friend.

When you take Pro Bowl level players (and Winston and Berry are Pro Bowl level players) and get substandard production and execution from them, it's all about coaching.

Leadership and coaching.

Instilling winning football.

It's still really, really important.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 08:49 AM
There is no accountability because there's no depth. Nobody is worried they will lose their job because they know there is a guy who couldn't make the CFL sitting behind them.

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 8966358)
I shall remember to thank the Lord that you have no ability to make this awful decision on this franchise.



:facepalm:
So, I'll assume that you are happy with Pioli, Crennel and Cassel?

I'm not talking about coaching. That time has passed for Herr Shottenheimer. I'm agreeing with Maas that Marty does know a thing or two about football, winning football, and would be effective in a consultant type role as he has ties to the organization and the Hunts the last time this franchise had any sort or relevancy.

It's about instilling a certain mindset from the top down.

But if you are happy with the path that this franchise is on, then you, good sir, are entitled to that opinion.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8966370)
So, I'll assume that you are happy with Pioli, Crennel and Cassel?

I'm not talking about coaching. That time has passed for Herr Shottenheimer. I'm agreeing with Maas that Marty does know a thing or two about football, winning football, and would be effective in a consultant type role as he has ties to the organization and the Hunts the last time this franchise had any sort or relevancy.

It's about instilling a certain mindset from the top down.

But if you are happy with the path that this franchise is on, then you, good sir, are entitled to that opinion.
Typical Saccopoo "logic". If someone doesn't like a past proven failure then they must like the current failure.

Imon Yourside 10-01-2012 08:54 AM
I've never been a big fan of the Coach/GM/personnel director thing but if it gets rid of these idiots then please bring in Cowher/back Marty/etc....

KCTitus 10-01-2012 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8966370)
So, I'll assume that you are happy with Pioli, Crennel and Cassel?

I'm not talking about coaching. That time has passed for Herr Shottenheimer. I'm agreeing with Maas that Marty does know a thing or two about football, winning football, and would be effective in a consultant type role as he has ties to the organization and the Hunts the last time this franchise had any sort or relevancy.

It's about instilling a certain mindset from the top down.

But if you are happy with the path that this franchise is on, then you, good sir, are entitled to that opinion.
Weak sauce...it's not an either/or option and silly to make such a ludicrous logical jump.

The Marty years were a mirage, go back and watch the games -- many of them KC had no business winning were never in the game and pulled out a miracle KO/Punt return, etc. Pffft...it's a waste of time to argue about Marty.

He's a proven loser. Just leave him be.

KCUnited 10-01-2012 08:57 AM
Watching this offense, I figured Marty was already on board.

Imon Yourside 10-01-2012 08:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 8966383)
Weak sauce...it's not an either/or option and silly to make such a ludicrous logical jump.

The Marty years were a mirage, go back and watch the games -- many of them KC had no business winning were never in the game and pulled out a miracle KO/Punt return, etc. Pffft...it's a waste of time to argue about Marty.

He's a proven loser. Just leave him be.
Given the track record, I would have zero faith Clark would bring in anyone greater than Pioli/Steadman.

dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966351)
Clark doesn't need a damn consultant to tell him what's wrong. Stevie Wonder can see what is wrong with this team. Years of poor drafting, poor coaching and players who don't care.
Uhhh...apparently he DOES. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. If Clark needs someone to hold his hand and it gets the results we all want...then please...by all means...hire Marty to "consult" and tell Clark what needs to be done.

htismaqe 10-01-2012 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966368)
There is no accountability because there's no depth. Nobody is worried they will lose their job because they know there is a guy who couldn't make the CFL sitting behind them.
It wouldn 't matter if there was depth. Romeo isn't gonna bench anybody. They might not like him anymore if he did that.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8966392)
It wouldn 't matter if there was depth. Romeo isn't gonna bench anybody. They might not like him anymore if he did that.
Romeo doesn't have a choice. Seriously there really aren't any moves that are going to help this team this year. You could plug in Quinn for Cassel, but let's face it, Quinn sucks. Maybe not as much as Cassel, but he still sucks.

Dave Lane 10-01-2012 09:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8966264)
if the Chiefs defense can hold teams to under 17, and the Chiefs offesnse can run for 250 and have a TOP of 3:1, and our defense force 3 turnovers in their redzone.....Cassel can take us to the promise land.
You forgot to add and doesn't attempt any passes...

htismaqe 10-01-2012 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966401)
Romeo doesn't have a choice. Seriously there really aren't any moves that are going to help this team this year. You could plug in Quinn for Cassel, but let's face it, Quinn sucks. Maybe not as much as Cassel, but he still sucks.
I'm not talking about the QB position. I'm talking about the other 21 guys on the field.

All of this talk about competition at every position is a sham.

Dave Lane 10-01-2012 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966401)
Romeo doesn't have a choice. Seriously there really aren't any moves that are going to help this team this year. You could plug in Quinn for Cassel, but let's face it, Quinn sucks. Maybe not as much as Cassel, but he still sucks.
Personally I'd like to find out but also like to find out if Stanzi has anything that he can possibly offer down the road. It's time to throw him in whether or not he sucks.

PRIEST 10-01-2012 09:14 AM
Funny I asked Marty this when he was signing my book . Well I said the Chiefs should

be looking for a new GM he just laughed . Should have asked why he was wearing blue

though.

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 09:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 8966383)
Weak sauce...it's not an either/or option and silly to make such a ludicrous logical jump.

The Marty years were a mirage, go back and watch the games -- many of them KC had no business winning were never in the game and pulled out a miracle KO/Punt return, etc. Pffft...it's a waste of time to argue about Marty.

He's a proven loser. Just leave him be.
All I'm saying is that they players respected him and played hard under him. It's obvious that they aren't doing that now.

I don't like the nepotism that Marty seems to demand at this stage of his career and that would definitely worry me. But Marty did get clubs to compete quickly when they were floundering before his arrival.

Personally, I'm all for burning this sucker right to the ground and getting a fresh start. After we go 1-15.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 09:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8966426)
All I'm saying is that they players respected him and played hard under him. It's obvious that they aren't doing that now.

I don't like the nepotism that Marty seems to demand at this stage of his career and that would definitely worry me. But Marty did get clubs to compete quickly when they were floundering before his arrival.

Personally, I'm all for burning this sucker right to the ground and getting a fresh start. After we go 1-15.
8-8 isn't the goal.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-01-2012 09:22 AM
Wasn't Marty the one that consulted with Clark on the Pioli hiring? That worked out.

dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8966439)
Wasn't Marty the one that consulted with Clark on the Pioli hiring? That worked out.
link? This is the first I've ever heard of this.

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8966430)
8-8 isn't the goal.
No, it is not.

But the Giants reached the "goal" with a 9-7 record going into the playoffs last season.

You gotta get there to give yourself a chance.

farmerchief 10-01-2012 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8966413)
Personally I'd like to find out but also like to find out if Stanzi has anything that he can possibly offer down the road. It's time to throw him in whether or not he sucks.
Exactly!:thumb:

The Franchise 10-01-2012 09:49 AM
I'm rooting for losses the rest of the season. I'll be happy when Charles puts up numbers for my fantasy team.....but that's ****ing it.

Raiderhater 10-01-2012 10:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966329)
I'm not sure that you understand what Maas is suggesting. He said hire Marty as a consultant that reports directly to Clark and analyzes what's going wrong with the organization. That evaluation would result in what we all know - Pioli is out of his league and is a "system GM".

Any GM that Clark would replace Pioli with would choose the coach and they would presumably find a QB. I can't imagine a consultant would have anything to do with evaluating and choosing a QB. Despite the vitriol for Marty that some have, Marty IS a leader that men listen to and he's well known, respected and liked in the NFL world.

More importantly, Clark apparently has an affinity for Marty and will LISTEN TO HIM...whereas Clark will NOT listen to us. Do you really think Marty would come to a different conclusion than we have? Same result...I could care less who gets credit. I just want Pioli gone.

Until he sleeps with one of his player's girlfriends.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 10:17 AM
Maas once again proving that brain cells are overrated.

Hammock Parties 10-01-2012 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8966546)
Until he sleeps with one of his player's girlfriends.
How do you know he didn't use that as a motivational tool?

"You better god damn perform, or I'll **** your girlfriend."

The secret to Marty's success.

DaneMcCloud 10-01-2012 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966329)
I'm not sure that you understand what Maas is suggesting. He said hire Marty as a consultant that reports directly to Clark and analyzes what's going wrong with the organization.
Marty was brought in as a consultant after Carl Peterson was fired, which led to the hiring of Scott Pioli.

No thanks.

Oh, and Maas is a ****ing idiot.

Raiderhater 10-01-2012 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8966588)
How do you know he didn't use that as a motivational tool?

"You better god damn perform, or I'll **** your girlfriend."

The secret to Marty's success.

He stepped down after that season.

DaneMcCloud 10-01-2012 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8966413)
Personally I'd like to find out but also like to find out if Stanzi has anything that he can possibly offer down the road. It's time to throw him in whether or not he sucks.
Dude, Stanzi sucks ass.

htismaqe 10-01-2012 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8966605)
Marty was brought in as a consultant after Carl Peterson was fired, which led to the hiring of Scott Pioli.

No thanks.

Oh, and Maas is a ****ing idiot.
Exactly.

The Chiefs are following Marty's blueprint to the letter. Build a good defense, run the ball, and trot out a mediocre QB. They're just not as good at it as he was.

We already know what the ceiling is on Martyball. No ****ing thanks.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8966686)
Dude, Stanzi sucks ass.
Yep.

Geno or Death. There is no middle ground.

007 10-01-2012 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan (Post 8966704)
Yep.

Geno or Death. There is no middle ground.
Wake up man. It will never happen.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8966722)
Wake up man. It will never happen.
Sir, you can live in reality if you please. As for me and my shitty franchise, I'm going to Fantasy Land!

Dayze 10-01-2012 11:12 AM
Geno would be there at our pick, or within reach, and the Chiefs will pass on him.

yet, there will still be thousands of season ticker holders, and the place will be full of fans, clinging on to 'hope'.
Chiefs will never draft a QB in the 1st. Never. it's too risky.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8966726)
Geno would be there at our pick, or within reach, and the Chiefs will pass on him.

yet, there will still be thousands of season ticker holders, and the place will be full of fans, clinging on to 'hope'.
Chiefs will never draft a QB in the 1st. Never. it's too risky.
If we stick with Cassel, I'm taking all the Chiefs shit off my car, putting my jerseys in the closet, and having nothing to do with this franchise except to laugh at their failures until Peeholi is dead and/or gone.

ChiefsCountry 10-01-2012 11:15 AM
Can we have Marty coach the team in the regular season and somebody else in the postseason? :)

notorious 10-01-2012 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan (Post 8966731)
If we stick with Cassel, I'm taking all the Chiefs shit off my car, putting my jerseys in the closet, and having nothing to do with this franchise except to laugh at their failures until Peeholi is dead and/or gone.
You aren't doing this already?


Damn you have some staying power.

Bump 10-01-2012 11:16 AM
**** that.


I want Geno Smith damnit.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8966737)
You aren't doing this already?


Damn you have some staying power.
LMAO

Dayze 10-01-2012 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan (Post 8966731)
If we stick with Cassel, I'm taking all the Chiefs shit off my car, putting my jerseys in the closet, and having nothing to do with this franchise except to laugh at their failures until Peeholi is dead and/or gone.
I'd make my butt prolapse, then jump into a lake hoping to sink to the bottom.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8966755)
I'd make my butt prolapse, then jump into a lake hoping to sink to the bottom.
LMAO

durtyrute 10-01-2012 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8966413)
Personally I'd like to find out but also like to find out if Stanzi has anything that he can possibly offer down the road. It's time to throw him in whether or not he sucks.
I've been saying this all along. We already know what Cassel is and can be. We might as well try Stanzi or Quinn for the rest of the year. I would prefer Stanzi but it doesn't matter as long as it's not Cassel. What is the point of having more than one QB if you are never going to play them even if your QB is the shittiest starter in the league.

saphojunkie 10-02-2012 06:00 PM
I feel the need to clarify this thread.

Maas actually said that CLARK should bring in Marty as a consultant JUST TO HIM. Not a consultant to the franchise for drafting or scouting or coaching.

Just a football guy who can give him a straight opinion without worrying about his job. His take is that Marty has a tremendous amount of respect for KC, the Hunts, and the Chiefs, and would give Clark the most honest opinion he can about what's going on with his franchise.

It wasn't like "Fire Pioli and bring in Marty to run the show!!"

KCTitus 10-02-2012 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8971474)
I feel the need to clarify this thread.

Maas actually said that CLARK should bring in Marty as a consultant JUST TO HIM. Not a consultant to the franchise for drafting or scouting or coaching.

Just a football guy who can give him a straight opinion without worrying about his job. His take is that Marty has a tremendous amount of respect for KC, the Hunts, and the Chiefs, and would give Clark the most honest opinion he can about what's going on with his franchise.

It wasn't like "Fire Pioli and bring in Marty to run the show!!"
Marty already infected this franchise once...I dont care for another dose, thank you.

Demonpenz 10-02-2012 06:11 PM
I listen to his podcast about how to bring a handcun and coke to an airport. Highly informative.

Simply Red 10-02-2012 06:26 PM
Felony Drug Charge. Yeah, i'm listening to this guy...LMAO

Simply Red 10-02-2012 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 8971490)
I listen to his podcast about how to bring a handcun and coke to an airport. Highly informative.
:LOL::banghead:

Beat me to it.

DaneMcCloud 10-02-2012 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8971506)
You know, I think I would welcome Marty. For most of my 40+ year tenure as a Chiefs fan, Marty comes about as close as anyone to having an era where the Chiefs established their own identity. The team, city, and entire fan base was energized under Marty.

I also think Marty knows from his days in San Diego that having an ass hat that meddles in the decision making of coaching a football team is detrimental to that said team. I really believe he would persuade Clark to move on from Pioli... which IMO is the first domino that needs to fall. Maybe even over Cassel... and I think everyone here is aware of my dislike for watching Cassel QB my football team.

I'm not real sure which direction Marty would push upon Clark, but I suspect it could be along the lines of Cowher... which would be fine with me, because for me, what Bill Cowher brings to the table is what I think KC football is all about.
**** this. Marty already consulted Hunt. That's how the Chiefs ended up with Pioli.

And **** Cowher. He's been out of the game since 2006. That's a long time.

Coogs 10-02-2012 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8971519)
**** this. Marty already consulted Hunt. That's how the Chiefs ended up with Pioli.

And **** Cowher. He's been out of the game since 2006. That's a long time.
If Marty suggested this ****ing regime to Clark, then I agree... and disregard my post for being a total dumbass!

Rasputin 10-02-2012 06:32 PM
Clark Hunt wouldn't need a cosnultant if he read Chiefs Planet :)



Oh and Marty is ****ing OLD anyone see a picture of him lately?

BossChief 10-02-2012 06:35 PM
Cowher would bring an attacking 3-4 defense that would allow us to get the most out of the talent we have on defense. He would also push HARD for a first round quarterback after getting his success with Big Ben.

My concerns with him would be if he still has the fire in his belly to be the yelling, cursing, spitting demanding leader he was with Pitrsburgh or if he has matured as a tv face and wouldn't be able to regain the same frame of mind he had as a hc....the other concern is if he choses the wrong qb.

He held on forever with Kordell Stuart and I'm afraid we might get another wasted speak of time with a similar player like we have been through with Cassel.


He he still has that fire, he is a guy that players always responded to and played hard for every week.


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