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Reerun_KC 10-14-2012 09:45 PM

Who is KC's starting QB for the Oakland game?
 
Who you ladies got?

Discuss Thrower 10-14-2012 09:45 PM

Cassel if he's clear.

Brock 10-14-2012 09:46 PM

I honestly don't care.

milkman 10-14-2012 09:46 PM

Who give's a rat's ass?

BossChief 10-14-2012 09:46 PM

It doesnt matter.

WV 10-14-2012 09:46 PM

Cassel. Injuries can't keep suck down! Plus we need him to lead us to Geno!!!

cdcox 10-14-2012 09:47 PM

http://www.megapartysupplies.co.uk/m...ll-badge_2.jpg

tredadda 10-14-2012 09:47 PM

I hope it is Cassel. We need our best shot at losing. Sad fact is that tonight Rodgers threw for more TDs against one of the top defenses in football than Cassel and Quinn have tossed all year COMBINED!!!!!!

Hammock Parties 10-14-2012 10:10 PM

Scott fired? Quinn, perhaps Stanzi if they feel like getting him ready over the bye.

Scott not fired? Matt, welcome back.

Unsmooth-Moment 10-14-2012 10:12 PM

I'd rather run wildcat the entire day.

Deberg_1990 10-14-2012 10:13 PM

JaMarcus Russel

ChiefsCountry 10-14-2012 10:14 PM

Cassel so we can boo the whole game at Arrowhead.
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doomy3 10-14-2012 10:14 PM

Doesn't matter at all.

Ace Gunner 10-14-2012 10:31 PM

Ricki ****ing Stanzi Mother ****ers

(honestly, I don't even know when they play the rAiders, and really, right now I don't care)

BigMeatballDave 10-14-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 9015009)
Ricki ****ing Stanzi Mother ****ers

(honestly, I don't even know when they play the rAiders, and really, right now I don't care)

In 2 weeks.

Ace Gunner 10-14-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9015014)
In 2 weeks.

in that case, who's this year's "Kyle Orton" ?? Start that guy. Or suck. Whatever Clark wants.

Chief_For_Life58 10-14-2012 10:35 PM

I choose neither

dilligaf 10-14-2012 10:35 PM

I thought Quinn played better. He's not the answer for the future, but I can't watch Cassel anymore.

RealSNR 10-14-2012 10:35 PM

I think we should play Cassel. He's better at losing to the Raiders.

BossChief 10-14-2012 10:38 PM

Seriously, what do we have to lose by starting Stanzi from here on out?

This season is over in terms of playoffs...live or die with the guy that might be here next year and get our future backup some playing time so he isnt totally green if he has to play in spot duty for Geno in the coming years.

Chiefspants 10-14-2012 10:39 PM

http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/11/05/56/42/matt_c11.jpg

Hammock Parties 10-14-2012 10:45 PM

Look at what a douche he is. LMAO

clyde05 10-14-2012 10:45 PM

It will be Cassel,,unless he gets hurt trying to put out another fire during bye week

BossChief 10-14-2012 10:46 PM

Reason # 1234342354234325423 to hate Matt Cassel:

he drinks Miller Light and wears unfitted cotton caps backwards.

BigMeatballDave 10-14-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9015069)
Reason # 1234342354234325423 to hate Matt Cassel:

he drinks Miller Light and wears unfitted cotton caps backwards.

Probably wears jorts, too.

craneref 10-15-2012 03:51 AM

Dawson is going to be at the game, I vote to let him suit up!

Ugly Duck 10-15-2012 04:50 AM

Trade us a 1st & a 2nd for Terrell Pryor. His stats are not negative. 1 game played, 0 passes, 0 yards, 0 rushes, 0 TDs, 0 INTs.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=...ng&w=350&h=254

Mr_Tomahawk 10-15-2012 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9015042)
Seriously, what do we have to lose by starting Stanzi from here on out?

This season is over in terms of playoffs...live or die with the guy that might be here next year and get our future backup some playing time so he isnt totally green if he has to play in spot duty for Geno in the coming years.

We risk the unknown...he wins us games to move us out of position to draft a franchise qb without having to use draft picks to trade up.

**** short term success. Cassel or quinn...i dont care, they both suck and are a guaranteed loss.

oldman 10-15-2012 06:02 AM

The homer in me says Quinn just because it's the Raiders. The realist in me says it dosen't matter.

BlackHelicopters 10-15-2012 06:14 AM

Quinn nor Cassell can man enough life boats for the sinking ship.

BoneKrusher 10-15-2012 06:16 AM

Cassel
so i can see hear him get booed all game.

i watched Atlanta/Raiders yesterday and the Raiders made life miserable for Matt Ryan.
i can only imagine what they'll have in store for MC.

King_Chief_Fan 10-15-2012 06:21 AM

I vote forfeit all the games this season

Hound333 10-15-2012 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9014967)
Cassel so we can boo the whole game at Arrowhead.
Posted via Mobile Device

And we will get torched in the National media for doing it while those dumbasses in NY can boo the hell out of a playoff team (Yankees) and the media basically slobs them saying its the right thing.

R8RFAN 10-15-2012 06:53 AM

It will be Cassel

Dayze 10-15-2012 08:57 AM

Cassel

Molitoth 10-15-2012 09:03 AM

I honestly don't think they are stupid enough to trot Cassel back out there.
If they do, it better be BOOOOO central at arrowhead.

boogblaster 10-15-2012 09:05 AM

qinn .. he needs the snaps ..

Rausch 10-15-2012 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 9015855)
qinn .. he needs the snaps ..

This.

His first game starting with us is on par with year 4 of Ca$$hole.

Think about that...

Predarat 10-15-2012 09:15 AM

Sign Vince Young and start him.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-15-2012 09:16 AM

Might as well throw Stanzi out there. Team hasn't scored an offensive TD the last couple weeks, so why not?

whoman69 10-15-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 9015355)
Trade us a 1st & a 2nd for Terrell Pryor. His stats are not negative. 1 game played, 0 passes, 0 yards, 0 rushes, 0 TDs, 0 INTs.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=...ng&w=350&h=254

You really think Pryor is worth as much as you idiots gave up for your current retread QB? You are just trolling on this one.

whoman69 10-15-2012 10:09 AM

The question isn't whom we would put out there, its who the Chiefs will put out there. As long as Pioli calls the shots, the QB will be Cassel.

If it were me I'd give Quinn another shot with a bye week just to prove it wasn't just rust. Another game like the last and Stanzi would be up. I never want to see Matt Cassel under center for this team again.

The Franchise 10-15-2012 10:12 AM

Who will? Probably Cassel.

Who should? Quinn.

Oh Snap 10-15-2012 10:13 AM

Tyler Palko or Tyler thigpen....

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 10:57 AM

Not sure, I am torn between; Fuller, Kenney, Blackledge, Peluer, Vlassic, Jaworski, Krieg, Bono, Grbac, Huard, Cassel and Quinn.

Wow...that's 30 years of QB suck in one sentence...

Ultra Peanut 10-15-2012 11:07 AM

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*is cut off by sniper's bullet*

Tribal Warfare 10-15-2012 11:08 AM

If Pioli is around and Cassel clears, it will be Cassel

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 9015885)
Sign Vince Young and start him.

If you want to get this turned around this season, you do this.

-2006 Titans started 0-3. Rookie VY comes in and leads 8-5 finish.
-2009 Titans started 0-6. VY comes in and leads 8-2 finish.

VY is 31-19 as a starter and would be a perfect pairing with Jamaal Charles, his teammate on the 2005 national champion Texas team.

htismaqe 10-15-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016253)
If you want to get this turned around this season, you do this.

-2006 Titans started 0-3. Rookie VY comes in and leads 8-5 finish.
-2009 Titans started 0-6. VY comes in and leads 8-2 finish.

VY is 31-19 as a starter and would be a perfect pairing with Jamaal Charles, his teammate on the 2005 national champion Texas team.

:Lin:

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016253)
If you want to get this turned around this season, you do this.

-2006 Titans started 0-3. Rookie VY comes in and leads 8-5 finish.
-2009 Titans started 0-6. VY comes in and leads 8-2 finish.

VY is 31-19 as a starter and would be a perfect pairing with Jamaal Charles, his teammate on the 2005 national champion Texas team.

And he's a complete head case and whinny mamma's boy.

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9016265)
And he's a complete head case and whinny mamma's boy.

That's the Jeff Fisher propoganda. Fisher got VY run out of TN despite the fact he had a career high 99 passer rating and was the only reason they were winning games. Where has TN and Chris Johnson been since?

VY is a winner and leader. His record proves it. He's Tebow with an NFL arm.

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016275)
That's the Jeff Fisher propoganda. Fisher got VY run out of TN despite the fact he had a career high 99 passer rating and was the only reason they were winning games. Where has TN and Chris Johnson been since?

VY is a winner and leader. His record proves it. He's Tebow with an NFL arm.

Dude, seriously??

So why has he not gone on to another team and lit up the NFL?

the Talking Can 10-15-2012 11:47 AM

i look forward to winston getting cassel injured again...

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9016290)
i look forward to winston getting cassel injured again...

I think we can all get on board with this.

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9016279)
Dude, seriously??

So why has he not gone on to another team and lit up the NFL?

What chance has he had? Coming in for 3 games in place of Vick? And he beat the Giants and threw for 400 on the Patriots despite the limited time with the Eagles.

This man was at his peak his final two years with the Titans and has not been given a chance since. He's only 29 and is in great shape. He is DEFINITELY better than Cassel and Quinn. You cannot make a rational argument that he isn't.

FlaChief58 10-15-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016253)
If you want to get this turned around this season, you do this.

-2006 Titans started 0-3. Rookie VY comes in and leads 8-5 finish.
-2009 Titans started 0-6. VY comes in and leads 8-2 finish.

VY is 31-19 as a starter and would be a perfect pairing with Jamaal Charles, his teammate on the 2005 national champion Texas team.

Ok, I'll play along. Let's say that pussholy scoops up VY who comes in, plays lights out & wins 7 games. The Chiefs finish the season at 8-8 just missing the playoffs. You are the owner of this team in this scenario so, now what do you do going into the offseason to get ready for 2013?

Bump 10-15-2012 11:50 AM

as long as Pioli is here, Cassel is here.

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016296)
What chance has he had? Coming in for 3 games in place of Vick? And he beat the Giants and threw for 400 on the Patriots despite the limited time with the Eagles.

This man was at his peak his final two years with the Titans and has not been given a chance since. He's only 29 and is in great shape. He is DEFINITELY better than Cassel and Quinn. You cannot make a rational argument that he isn't.

Sure I can.

He couldn't hit water if he fell out of the boat. And gee, could the Chiefs go and pick up another scrub QB off the streets. That's what they have done for the LAST 30 FRICKIN' YEARS DUMBASS!!!

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9016301)
Ok, I'll play along. Let's say that pussholy scoops up VY who comes in, plays lights out & wins 7 games. The Chiefs finish the season at 8-8 just missing the playoffs. You are the owner of this team in this scenario so, now what do you do going into the offseason to get ready for 2013?

If I think we are close to playoff-caliber with VY, I build the team around him in 2013. If not, I maybe keep him to start the season but draft a QB to groom.

I'll tell you right now. VY and Chris Johnson were a lethal combination in TN, going 12-6 in 2009-10 on teams that were 2-12 when VY didn't start. VY and Jamaal Charles would wreck shop. And VY has one of the best deep ball %'s in the NFL. The whole offense opens up when you put him in.

ESPN QBR for VY's final two seasons in TN:

2009

1. Peyton Manning - 82.9
2. Drew Brees - 79.7
3. Philip Rivers - 74.7
4. Vince Young - 70.3
5. Matt Schaub - 70.3
6. Aaron Rodgers - 70.2
7. Eli Manning - 69.8
8. Ben Roethlisberger - 67.3
9. Kurt Warner - 67.3
10. Brett Favre - 66.4

2010

1. Tom Brady - 76.8
2. Vince Young - 70.6
3. Matt Ryan - 69.5
4. Aaron Rodgers - 69.2
5. Peyton Manning - 68.6
6. Michael Vick - 68.0
7. Eli Manning - 65.9
8. Drew Brees - 65.3
9. Josh Freeman - 64.7
10. Ben Roethlisberger - 64.1

R8RFAN 10-15-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9016035)
You really think Pryor is worth as much as you idiots gave up for your current retread QB? You are just trolling on this one.

I know that retread we have now will probably throw for 4k this year and if the Cheaps had a retread like that they would be winning....:thumb:

FlaChief58 10-15-2012 12:06 PM

Building a team around a scrap heap QB who had a good college career but like so many others could not parlay that into a starting job in the NFL does not really sound like a good plan sofar but, I digress.


Do you keep Pussholy and crennel & what round are you taking a QB?

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016334)
If I think we are close to playoff-caliber with VY, I build the team around him in 2013. If not, I maybe keep him to start the season but draft a QB to groom.

I'll tell you right now. VY and Chris Johnson were a lethal combination in TN, going 12-6 in 2009-10 on teams that were 2-12 when VY didn't start. VY and Jamaal Charles would wreck shop. And VY has one of the best deep ball %'s in the NFL. The whole offense opens up when you put him in.

ESPN QBR for VY's final two seasons in TN:

2009

1. Peyton Manning - 82.9
2. Drew Brees - 79.7
3. Philip Rivers - 74.7
4. Vince Young - 70.3
5. Matt Schaub - 70.3
6. Aaron Rodgers - 70.2
7. Eli Manning - 69.8
8. Ben Roethlisberger - 67.3
9. Kurt Warner - 67.3
10. Brett Favre - 66.4

2010

1. Tom Brady - 76.8
2. Vince Young - 70.6
3. Matt Ryan - 69.5
4. Aaron Rodgers - 69.2
5. Peyton Manning - 68.6
6. Michael Vick - 68.0
7. Eli Manning - 65.9
8. Drew Brees - 65.3
9. Josh Freeman - 64.7
10. Ben Roethlisberger - 64.1

My God!! You have opened my eyes!! Never mind that I live outside of Nashville and saw VY's act first hand the stats just don't lie!!

VY is needs to go to the top of every QB list ever!!

We need to call in the Justice department to investigate the travesty of 32 NFL team NOT signing VY!!

I mean it can't be anything other than a conspiracy by the MAN to keep VY from starting the NFL and staking his claim as greatest QB EVER!!!!

the Talking Can 10-15-2012 12:09 PM

VY eats shit

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9016358)
My God!! You have opened my eyes!! Never mind that I live outside of Nashville and saw VY's act first hand the stats just don't lie!!

VY is needs to go to the top of every QB list ever!!

We need to call in the Justice department to investigate the travesty of 32 NFL team NOT signing VY!!

I mean it can't be anything other than a conspiracy by the MAN to keep VY from starting the NFL and staking his claim as greatest QB EVER!!!!

Instead of assuming that every NFL GM is right about everything (which is clearly an erroneous assumption) why don't you make substantive arguments against VY?

There is not another QB out there with VY's resume who is not starting. There is no question he is more accomplished than Cassel and Quinn put together. I think bringing him in now during the bye week is a no brainer. Of course that is not taking Pioli's ego into consideration.

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 12:13 PM

Cassel - 30 years old, 29-30 record, career high 93 passer rating

Quinn - 27 years old, 3-10 record, career high 67 passer rating

Vince Young - 29 years old, 31-19 record, career high 99 passer rating

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016367)
Instead of assuming that every NFL GM is right about everything (which is clearly an erroneous assumption) why don't you make substantive arguments against VY?

There is not another QB out there with VY's resume who is not starting. There is no question he is more accomplished than Cassel and Quinn put together. I think bringing him in now during the bye week is a no brainer. Of course that is not taking Pioli's ego into consideration.

Ok try this on for size; Cassel craps his pants at the first sign of pressure. VY goes off and cries in the corner at the first sign of the fans turning on him. His ego is a fragile as an eggshell and cracks under the first time anyone boos him.

You want that under center?

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9016381)
Ok try this on for size; Cassel craps his pants at the first sign of pressure. VY goes off and cries in the corner at the first sign of the fans turning on him. His ego is a fragile as an eggshell and cracks under the first time anyone boos him.

You want that under center?

That is not true. VY is a winner and a warrior. You're stating what Fisher wanted the media to believe. VY yelled back at Fisher in the locker room for not letting him finish in a winnable game. Fisher didn't want VY from the beginning and it ate at him that VY proved him wrong on the field.

Easy 6 10-15-2012 12:22 PM

Jim Bob Cooter

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9016381)
Ok try this on for size; Cassel craps his pants at the first sign of pressure. VY goes off and cries in the corner at the first sign of the fans turning on him. His ego is a fragile as an eggshell and cracks under the first time anyone boos him.

You want that under center?

Try this on for size: How do you explain that over the three seasons TN had terrible defenses ranked 26th or lower, the Titans were 20-11 with VY starting and 2-15 when he didn't?

KC_Lee 10-15-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinHorn (Post 9016420)
Try this on for size: How do you explain that over the three seasons TN had terrible defenses ranked 26th or lower, the Titans were 20-11 with VY starting and 2-15 when he didn't?

I'll answer with this; Doug Flutie had a winning record in Buffalo. So what?

AustinHorn 10-15-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9016451)
I'll answer with this; Doug Flutie had a winning record in Buffalo. So what?

You didn't answer. Why were they so bad without him? Same defense, same Chris Johnson, and they sucked (and still suck) without VY. Explain that.

No team has ever sucked with VY as their QB. He is worth bringing in. It's a no brainer at this point.


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