AJ McCarron?
 

Should he declare, which seems like a very big possibility, would you be interested?

He's got 18 TD's to 0 INT's this year and is 6'4" 215.

Here's his stat line.

CAREER STATS
SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2012 122 177 1684 68.9 9.51 85 18 0 16 182.4
2011 219 328 2634 66.8 8.03 69 16 5 13 147.3
2010 30 48 389 62.5 8.10 47 3 0 2 151.2

Would need to see him play. But those stats atleast seem fairly good.

Late rounder...

I wouldn't agree with that at all. He seems pretty accurate to me, in command of the huddle, and have yet to see him curl up in the fetal position.

He will have the most prototypical QB body of the first round QB's if he declares, unless Bray declares (which is seriously doubt he will). He's got the height and he'll probably be 220 by the combine.

Kid looks good.

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Don't know anything about him, except that if he's brought in, he should be the 2nd QB we take in the draft.

Hard to say.

He's playing behind a very good NFL level offensive line. (Three of those guys could be first rounders in the 2013 draft.) His TE will be a good pro.

He's also got an NFL level defense to cover any mistakes.

Hard to say with him. He doesn't jump off the page in terms of anything he does on the field.

Mid-to late rounder at this point.

I'd be leery due to USC QB syndrome. In this instance, there's even less sizzle to go with it as he hasn't exactly lit things on fire stat wise. He benefits from helming a powerhouse team and so you don't know what to make of it.

I think he'd be a good guy to take like Washington did with Cousins as a developmental/backup type of guy. While our QB situation is bad enough to warrant doing that, we've already got Stanzi for that role. I'd be indifferent to dumping him, but keep him and go get an ok veteran might be the better decision (just you know don't **** up and have Brodie Croyle level guy to be your QBotF). Actually he strikes me as a really good game manager so I think he'd be especially good at being developed for that.

If he turns out to be pretty damn good then trade him away to a QB-needy team for a 1st rounder or something.

Was thinking of AJ yesterday. Didn't we already try an Alabama QB? Just like we have tried the majority of the LSU roster. AJ looks like a 4-6 rounder.

I like QB's that have had to itch and claw their way to success.


Although I like MacCarron, he is the equivalent of a successful business man that was backed by his daddy's money right now.

Draft him and you get his mother (in the middle):

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Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
As of right now, A.J. McCarron would be my favorite to be the 1st QB taken in 2013 if he were to declare.

See how he performs in the combine.

He is difficult to evaluate due to everything being perfect around him. He never faces adversity at all.

I think he's a hell of a prospect.

It's hard to tell with any Bama QB in Saban's system because they are told to be game managers and to not screw up. They don't throw the ball all over the field nor do they ever have to.

These comments, made by several people, are stupid, IMO. You can discount a QB because you don't like his mechanics, arm strength, accuracy, decision making, etc, etc. Dissing him because of the school he went to is idiotic. I guess the Colts shouldn't have drafted Peyton Manning because Heath Shuler was a bust?

Yea but geno smith has the best wide recievers in college and that's not stopping chiefs fans from tagging him as an Rogers RGIII hybrid, which is laughable.

Who said he's a rg3 Rodgers hybrid?

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False.

I'd still be breastfeeding if I were him

After seeing Cassel the last few years I don't know that any of us are in a position to evaluate a quarterback. The act of going fetal at the first sign of pressure is actually not common.

LMAO

If we're interested in McCarron, we may as well sign Ken Dorsey for cheap. That's who he is.

No thank you.

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He's got a good arm and he's decently elusive in the pocket. Alabama's O-Line isn't as good at pass protection as y'all think they are.

That said, he's only recently become a decent QB. He was dreadful last year until the last couple of games in the regular season. It was like a switch was turned on with him in the Auburn game last year, and since then he's been a guy who finds the open man downfield.

Alabama has had to pass to open up the run this year, for the most part. That's just how teams are playing them. And he's been able to do the job. He has long TD passes in nearly every game.

He's a early 3rd rounder type to me still right now, because I'm still waiting for the clock to strike midnight.

My guess is all this discussion is a bit premature. Bama QB's tend to stay in school.

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My God... She's ****ing gorgeous.

if the QB is from a big powerhouse school - we don't know how good he is, he hides behind a good team

if the QB is from a small school - we don't know how good he is, what will he do against elite talent

sigh

I would take him, but as more of a 4th rounder. We can do a Washington type scenario where they drafted the franchise (RGIII) in round 1 and a solid backup in case the franchise fails in the later rounds (Cousins). Right now we have no solid starter or backup. We need both and Stanzi is not looking like a capable backup or starter at this point.

I love how you call those comments stupid while basically saying exactly the reason why we said them. Game manager on a powerhouse team, yeah, nothing questionable about that. :rolleyes:

Its not the school its the situation. Certain schools just happen to regularly have that situation though. Do you follow?

Yeah that's my thinking.

After the last 20 years I'd throw my shoulder out spanking it if that were to happen...

No, it's a stupid proposition. If Peyton Manning or RGIII went to USC and was successful at USC it wouldn't mean he'd be a bust in the NFL because he went to USC. That's just stupid.

I want to see the rest of this season and a few games in which AJ is forced to make big throws before I start breaking him down fully. However, I think he's got some skills that could translate to a higher level of football.

However programs tend to recruit players that fit their system. An indictment of a QB that comes out of USC because that program has been recruiting those types of players is legit.


Which is exactly why I say fuck no to Barkley.

Barkley was the consensus #1 QB and #5 overall recruit in the country coming out of high school. So if he had chosen Cal, Tennessee, or Stanford instead of USC it'd be ok to draft him? To me, that's just insane. Not saying I want to draft Barkley, but him attending USC isn't the reason why I'd be against.

The problem that I have with evaluating USC QBs is the amount of talent they typically have at skill positions is usually disproportionate to the talent levels of other teams they play throughout the year.

So, when breaking down Barkley, you have to have an understanding of USC's WCO, what kind of plays they like to call on certain situations w/ personnel, and know what coverage they're getting from opposing teams. If you evaluate that extensively, you can make a viable idea on that player, IMO.

Additionally, you have several other variables to take into account when evaluating a college kid. (They are kids, with a life, school, etc. Stuff we would assume wouldn't affect a pro (i.e. a GF dumping them) could have an effect.) )

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What's stupid is you can't tell how there's a clear difference between those situations.

Your Tennessee comparison is so goddamned stupid awful I don't know what to say. Let's look at Manning, or actually let's start with Luck and see why you're completely missing the entire point. Despite being on a good team and having a great coach, Luck wasn't being questioned (much, because actually there were some murmurs, especially after that USC game where they kept handing it off with the game on the line) like that because he was a pretty complete player: good arm, athleticism, size, toughness, knowledge, smarts, plus he had pedigree. Manning was similar.

McCarron? Yeah not so much. In no way does that mean he absolutely is not a good QB or won't be one in the NFL. No one is saying he's not a great prospect solely because of his team. Its because he's just been a game manager on that team for a little while, put up middling numbers, and just has not had a big breakout. He's not even the clear leader of his team, but then its really partway through the 2nd season of him at the helm.

There are other factors, which if you bothered to read past the first sentence I wrote you might have gotten [then again the reading comprehension of people here is so ****ing terrible that I can't even give you the benefit of the doubt]. Unfortunately he just hasn't done much of anything to really warrant much hype and in fact has more questions since at this point he's actually shown less than those USC QBs did so its even more of a question. Oh, and the NFL is much more of a passing league than Alabama at this point so you have to wonder if he can even shoulder it for 30+ passes a game against better talent.

The biggest reason I don't want anything to do with him, and a point I didn't raise before, is that he is a perfect fit for Pioli's dumbass mantra and we already know how much of a total failure that is.

There is that better? :p

WTF is wrong with CP? When McCarron comes out, he's a lock to go in the first or second.

Too early to tell IMO but if he continues his development, then certainly.

Personally, I just want to see more of AJ.

Much. People can have plenty of reasons to not like a guy but saying "because he went to USC" or "because he went to Alabama" is not a valid one, IMO.

He plays for USC now???

Short of the possibility that maybe at another program his game is developed in a different manner (if even possible), absolutely not. But the fact that he IS at USC tells me buyer beware because successful QBs from that system do not have an over all great track record at the next level.

What's the track record of West Virginia and Arkansas QBs in the NFL?

I don't know. I've never looked into it. More to the point, I do not recall a succession of highly touted QBs from those programs that you can base a track record off of.

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what's that have to do w/ anything? how many different coaching staffs, OC's, philosophies etc have been through both of those programs the last 5-6 years?...esp Arkansas. I don't believe you can judge on how well a QB will be in the NFL just by going off of what QB's have come out of a program that's had multiple schemes, coaching staffs etc over the yrs.

I don't know why not. When you are surrounded by 5 star talent on both sides of the ball and you just look good, that is telling. When I read stats about guys like barkley tearing it up then you watch the game and his wr are 10yds open it tells the truth.

Just like cassel at ne and flynn in gb the same goes to usc. Does that mean they cannot be great? No, but you will not know until they are away from their stacked teams.

I've been hearing how hot McCarron's mom is lately but I never saw her until now. Wow! :p

This. What if an automaker put out crappy vehicle model after crappy vehicle model? Would someone still be willing to drop $80,000 on the newest model based off of that track record even if this one promises to be better? I would be very wary.

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Ask the Redskins how they do it. Oh yeah, they take their QBOTF in round 1. And then get another developmental guy later. Geno 1st. McCarron in the 3rd.

I'd take him in a millisecond

FYP.

Jeff Tedford/Aaron Rodgers say hey.

Sweet the exception to the rule. Now had he gone #1 to SF and started immediately would he be the QB that he is today?

Bama fan. McCarron is a 2nd IMO. and that is being generous. M
Good accuracy. Good touch. Decent arm strength.

Worth a flier. No worse than Cassel. Better IMO.,

edit: meant to say late 1st to Mid2nd. .

No to the left YES in the middle & no to the right.

This.

I don't see a real clear difference between McCarron, Stanzi, or Kirk Cousins really.

All somewhat similar.

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McCarron operates within his system. He has the best o-line in football, he has two very good RBs, and he has receivers who can fly. In short, I think many QBs would be good in his situation. I think he is only average at best. He puts up decent numbers primarily because he's about the fourth or fifth guy you focus on on that offense.

He's a late round pick.

Can someone please tell me the difference between AJ McCarron and Greg McElroy? I'm dying to know.

I think her development is complete. MILF.

McElroy's mom isn't showing off the boobies:

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His sister or whoever that is looks alright

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Mcelroy's sister.

They're completely different QBs. McElroy is a Chad Pennington little squirt of a QB in terms of arm strength. Game manager.

McCarron is a natural gunslinger with an NFL arm that has learned discipline (and more importantly, learned accuracy and touch) under Saban. McCarron's NFL ceiling is around that of a Matt Schaub.

:hmmm: i'll take that...at the ceiling that is

It's hot mom vs. hot sister. The mom is more of an immediate payoff. She's fully developed and showing the goods. She's at that stage in her life where she wants you to look and it shows. You can see pics out there right now. Plus once that NFL money rolls in she's bound to party more. She has a smaller window though as I don't think age will be kind to those large (for her frame) breasts. The sister is more of an investment. She's cute and sexy, and I've seen somewhat revealing pics already, but she may take several years to generate hot pics if she does at all. She is definitely "flashing" potential though. And you have to ask yourself if the media attention will produce a photo shoot or maybe paparazzi pics from the French Riviera down the road. So does KC want immediate impact or are they in it for the long haul?

This. McCarron has a much better arm, better accuracy, and has shown more mobility in the pocket than McElroy.

Good analysis. I'm the win now kind of guy so I'll take McCarron.

Cool.

I'd still rather draft Smith, Barkley, or Wilson over McCarron. Preferrably Smith, obviously.

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