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FRCDFED 10-30-2012 07:47 AM

Conspiracy Theory Re: Jamal only getting 5 touches
 
Bear with me for a minute.......I didn't see the game so my opinion is based merely on what I have read in the media specifically on Crennels response to why Jamal was only given 5 carries for the game.

Is it possible that Pioli/Crennel/Daboll attempted to sabotage B. Quinn's first start on the team by inserting a game plan that limited the use of the running game and was designed to force Quinn to pass more than expected?

I mean, wouldn't you break in a new starting QB by using the teams strength (running game) to create opportunities to build confidence and succeed in the passing game? Start off with some runs followed by some play action to keep the defense honest. Then move on to short slants and high percentage throws to build confidence and establish a tempo with the receivers?

So again I ask.....is it possible that the three stooges attempted to put in a game plan to sabotage Quinn but that it backfired only because Quinn went down with and injury and they couldn't change the entire game plan thereby forcing them to roll with what they had?

Just asking.............because that is the ONLY reason I can come up with that you give Jamal ****ING Charles only 5 carries in a ****ING game!!!

loochy 10-30-2012 07:49 AM

No, it's not possible. They could just start Cassel instead. Also, Quinn needs no help making himself look bad.

Just face it - Crennel and Daboll are idiots. That's all there is to it.

BlackHelicopters 10-30-2012 07:49 AM

My theory is Charles is not 100%. Or The trifecta of Pioli/RAC/Daboll is not very smart.

Deberg_1990 10-30-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065074)
Just face it - Crennel and Daboll are idiots. That's all there is to it.

This. These two clowns are not smart enough to dream something up like this.

TimeForWasp 10-30-2012 07:53 AM

Charles is the top secret emergency QB. shhhhhhh keep it to yourself.

KC kid 10-30-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9065068)
Bear with me for a minute.......I didn't see the game so my opinion is based merely on what I have read in the media specifically on Crennels response to why Jamal was only given 5 carries for the game.

Is it possible that Pioli/Crennel/Daboll attempted to sabotage B. Quinn's first start on the team by inserting a game plan that limited the use of the running game and was designed to force Quinn to pass more than expected?

I mean, wouldn't you break in a new starting QB by using the teams strength (running game) to create opportunities to build confidence and succeed in the passing game? Start off with some runs followed by some play action to keep the defense honest. Then move on to short slants and high percentage throws to build confidence and establish a tempo with the receivers?

So again I ask.....is it possible that the three stooges attempted to put in a game plan to sabotage Quinn but that it backfired only because Quinn went down with and injury and they couldn't change the entire game plan thereby forcing them to roll with what they had?

Just asking.............because that is the ONLY reason I can come up with that you give Jamal ****ING Charles only 5 carries in a ****ING game!!!

I think you could not be more wrong. I think Crennel is definitely in Quinn's corner as Pioli has only recently given him the go ahead on him. If you go back to the Tampa game, the first thing RAC said was IT IS NOT THE QBS fault! He was not asked about quarterback. He offered it up of his own accord. Added to that, he has every excuse to go ahead and name Cassel the starter this week. . . ie Cassel playing well and Quinn being hurt, but he said that Quinn is the guy if he can practice. I think Romeo is all in on Quinn right now

FRCDFED 10-30-2012 07:53 AM

Good points.

reschief 10-30-2012 07:54 AM

That would seem to contradict the "fake head injury" to Quinn theory, unless a) Quinn was in on the deal to put Castle in position to be the QB again or b) Quinn was told, "we can't wait to put our beloved Castle back in the game, even though we set you up for failure anyway, so pretend you're hurt." Either way, the legendary level of fail continues no matter who the QB is or will be this year.

FRCDFED 10-30-2012 07:55 AM

How in the world do you only give Charles 5 carries is beyond me. Hopefully they don't do something stupid this week and overload him. We need Charles to make it through this season so we will have a stud RB to pair with our shiny new QB next year!

loochy 10-30-2012 07:55 AM

This is kind of like how people think that the U.S. Govt. orchestrated 9/11 attacks. There's NO WAY that an organization as incompetent as that could orchestrate something on that scale.

TimeForWasp 10-30-2012 07:56 AM

We want to break the nfl record for QB head injuries in a season.

Ace Gunner 10-30-2012 07:56 AM

you are way over-thinking this. Daboll is a ****ing loser.

loochy 10-30-2012 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touchdown Kansas City !!! (Post 9065103)
We want to break the nfl record for QB head injuries in a season.

Don't forget RB head injuries. Charles had one earlier and now Eauchus has one.

TimeForWasp 10-30-2012 07:57 AM

It should be Stanzi's turn.

FRCDFED 10-30-2012 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 9065107)
you are way over-thinking this. Daboll is a ****ing loser.

This

FRCDFED 10-30-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touchdown Kansas City !!! (Post 9065111)
It should be Stanzi's turn.

Also This.

loochy 10-30-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touchdown Kansas City !!! (Post 9065111)
It should be Stanzi's turn.

It's a carousel of QB suck

Ring around the rosey, pocket full of posey, losses, losses, we all just SUUUUCCKKKKK *all QBs fall down with phantom head injuries*

MahiMike 10-30-2012 07:58 AM

I think you're on to something here. But then again, I believe most all conspiracies.

Molitoth 10-30-2012 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065099)
This is kind of like how people think that the U.S. Govt. orchestrated 9/11 attacks. There's NO WAY that an organization as incompetent as that could orchestrate something on that scale.

Yet, a small group of "terrorists" can?

FRCDFED 10-30-2012 08:00 AM

A good game plan would do miracles with this team. We have way too much talent to have this level of suckage......or do we?

Look at what the 49ers do with Smith. He's proving that he is a competent QB in the right system and game plan. They utilize their strong running game to set up the passing. Their blocking schemes are phenominal and Smith is thriving with Harbaugh as the HC.

loochy 10-30-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9065126)
Yet, a small group of "terrorists" can?

Fly an airplane and crash it?

Yeah.

I'm referring to the cover up with no evidence.

TimeForWasp 10-30-2012 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9065127)
A good game plan would do miracles with this team. We have way too much talent to have this level of suckage......or do we?

Look at what the 49ers do with Smith. He's proving that he is a competent QB in the right system and game plan. They utilize their strong running game to set up the passing. Their blocking schemes are phenominal and Smith is thriving with Harbaugh as the HC.

That gets me to thinking. What other x nfl QBs are coaching in the College ranks that are from a coaching family?

TimeForWasp 10-30-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9065127)
A good game plan would do miracles with this team. We have way too much talent to have this level of suckage......or do we?

Look at what the 49ers do with Smith. He's proving that he is a competent QB in the right system and game plan. They utilize their strong running game to set up the passing. Their blocking schemes are phenominal and Smith is thriving with Harbaugh as the HC.

Okoye left, Okoye right worked pretty good.

loochy 10-30-2012 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touchdown Kansas City !!! (Post 9065139)
Okoye left, Okoye right worked pretty good.

What about up the middle?

TimeForWasp 10-30-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065141)
What about up the middle?

Didn't need that play very often. It usually started over with Okoye Left and Okoye right again.

Rooster 10-30-2012 08:31 AM

I thought you were going to say they were saving him for a trade before the deadline. :hmmm:

FRCDFED 10-30-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 9065186)
I thought you were going to say they were saving him for a trade before the deadline. :hmmm:

Nothing would surprise me at this point. Especially if we see one of the stars for this team traded to Miami for QB Moore. Like Bowe for instance.

loochy 10-30-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9065202)
Nothing would surprise me at this point. Especially if we see one of the stars for this team traded to Miami for QB Moore. Like Bowe for instance.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...wxg2o1_500.gif

Marcellus 10-30-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9065075)
My theory is Charles is not 100%. Or The trifecta of Pioli/RAC/Daboll is not very smart.

He sure seemed 100% running it 26 times in the first half against the Ravens.

That leaves.............

Canofbier 10-30-2012 08:43 AM

I think Haley is just giving Pioli the middle finger on the way out. Wait, what?

jspchief 10-30-2012 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 9065107)
you are way over-thinking this. Daboll is a ****ing loser.

/thread

siberian khatru 10-30-2012 08:44 AM

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

FRCDFED 10-30-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9065216)
I think Haley is just giving Pioli the middle finger on the way out. Wait, what?

For sure.......Haley definately got the short straw. He ended up in a situation with too many ego's and Patriot Club cards. A club he wasn't a member of.

splatbass 10-30-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065099)
This is kind of like how people think that the U.S. Govt. orchestrated 9/11 attacks. There's NO WAY that an organization as incompetent as that could orchestrate something on that scale.

As someone that has worked for the government as a defense contractor for 30 years I can tell you they are not as incompetent as you seem to believe. Could they pull it off? Absolutely. Could they keep it a secret for 10 years? Probably not. Did they do it? Not likely. But they are not incompetent.

I know it is popular to call the government incompetent, but we have the best, strongest, highest tech military in the world, and they are far from incompetent. The same goes for the intelligence system.

loochy 10-30-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9065239)
As someone that has worked for the government as a defense contractor for 30 years I can tell you they are not as incompetent as you seem to believe. Could they pull it off? Absolutely. Could they keep it a secret for 10 years? Probably not. Did they do it? Not likely. But they are not incompetent.

I know it is popular to call the government incompetent, but we have the best, strongest, highest tech military in the world, and they are far from incompetent. The same goes for the intelligence system.

Guess who else works as a defense contractor.

splatbass 10-30-2012 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065245)
Guess who else works as a defense contractor.

I don't know. I don't care. I know I've seen the government do some amazing, and very competent, things over the last 30 years.

Molitoth 10-30-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9065239)
As someone that has worked for the government as a defense contractor for 30 years I can tell you they are not as incompetent as you seem to believe. Could they pull it off? Absolutely. Could they keep it a secret for 10 years? Probably not. Did they do it? Not likely. But they are not incompetent.

I know it is popular to call the government incompetent, but we have the best, strongest, highest tech military in the world, and they are far from incompetent. The same goes for the intelligence system.

This.

loochy 10-30-2012 09:05 AM

They are too big for their own good. Individual empowered cells can get things done but excessive bureaucracy and top down involvement significantly hamper progress and agility.

But can't we agree here that there is NO CHIEFS CONSPIRACY?!?! They just suck.

Also, enjoy this picture of AJ McCarron's mom:

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...carron-mom.jpg

splatbass 10-30-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065277)
They are too big for their own good. Individual empowered cells can get things done but excessive bureaucracy and top down involvement significantly hamper progress and agility.

This is true of every large corporation too. Something else I have much experience with. Any large organization is going to be like that in some fashion.

If you think they are so bad why do you work as a contractor for them? Maybe you should find another, more competent, line of work. Or maybe its just you.

Canofbier 10-30-2012 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9065282)
This is true of every large corporation too. Something else I have much experience with. Any large organization is going to be like that in some fashion.

If you think they are so bad why do you work as a contractor for them? Maybe you should find another, more competent, line of work. Or maybe its just you.

Jeez, harsh. Contractors go where the money is, right?

loochy 10-30-2012 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9065282)
This is true of every large corporation too. Something else I have much experience with. Any large organization is going to be like that in some fashion.

If you think they are so bad why do you work as a contractor for them? Maybe you should find another, more competent, line of work. Or maybe its just you.

It makes me money? WTF kind of question is that? I don't do this out of the goodness of my heart.

Also, I agree about the corporation thing. You and I might work for the same company...

buddha 10-30-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9065097)
How in the world do you only give Charles 5 carries is beyond me. Hopefully they don't do something stupid this week and overload him. We need Charles to make it through this season so we will have a stud RB to pair with our shiny new QB next year!


It doesn't make any sense...so the only reason I can come up with is that KC is mailing it in on all levels trying to get the top pick in the draft. At this point, why not do that? We literally have nothing to lose. Better to trade Bowe, draft an elite QB in the first round, and find a GM and coaching staff who know what they are doing.

Personally, I'd pull for Gruden.

keg in kc 10-30-2012 09:16 AM

Or it could be that the Raiders defense is much better against the run than the pass, and they were actually trying to attack a team's weakness for a change.

htismaqe 10-30-2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9065298)
Or it could be that the Raiders defense is much better against the run than the pass, and they were actually trying to attack a team's weakness for a change.

That's like an armless man saying "I didn't try to kick him because he's prone to taking punches to the face".

loochy 10-30-2012 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9065308)
That's like an armless man saying "I didn't try to kick him because he's prone to taking punches to the face".

ROFL this

scho63 10-30-2012 09:28 AM

Would everyone please stop with all these nutty conspiracy theories already?!?

JFC!!! This isn't the cold war, it's just god damn football

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2012 10:14 AM

That's pretty silly. (Figured I'd be nice)

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9065334)
Would everyone please stop with all these nutty conspiracy theories already?!?

JFC!!! This isn't the cold war, it's just god damn football

For the love of all that's good....THIS

listopencil 10-30-2012 10:15 AM

They're saving him for the meat of the schedule.

listopencil 10-30-2012 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065277)
They are too big for their own good. Individual empowered cells can get things done but excessive bureaucracy and top down involvement significantly hamper progress and agility.

But can't we agree here that there is NO CHIEFS CONSPIRACY?!?! They just suck.

Also, enjoy this picture of AJ McCarron's mom:

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...carron-mom.jpg


Is she the one in red?

Ace Gunner 10-30-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065277)
They are too big for their own good. Individual empowered cells can get things done but excessive bureaucracy and top down involvement significantly hamper progress and agility.

But can't we agree here that there is NO CHIEFS CONSPIRACY?!?! They just suck.


suck suck suck suck suck suck

loochy 10-30-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9065487)
Is she the one in red?

:thumb:

boogblaster 10-30-2012 10:24 AM

id hit em ....

listopencil 10-30-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065507)
:thumb:


Nice. She looks good in red. C'mon Clark. Make it happen.

loochy 10-30-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9065550)
Nice. She looks good in red. C'mon Clark. Make it happen.

successful threadjack is successful

Mr. Laz 10-30-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9065068)
I didn't see the game

you should of just stopped right there

kaplin42 10-30-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065074)
No, it's not possible. They could just start Cassel instead. Also, Quinn needs no help making himself look bad.

Just face it - Crennel and Daboll are idiots. That's all there is to it.

This.

/thread

Easy 6 10-30-2012 10:38 AM

Color me glad they didnt waste Charles any more than they did, let draughn, gray & the White Bus(t) soak up some punishment for a while.

listopencil 10-30-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9065554)
successful threadjack is successful

I clicked on this thread because football but then boobies.

King_Chief_Fan 10-30-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9065334)
Would everyone please stop with all these nutty conspiracy theories already?!?

JFC!!! This isn't the cold war, it's just god damn football

indeed.....we give the organization way too much credit to craft something such as this

Titty Meat 10-30-2012 12:41 PM

Take this shit to Infowars.

whoman69 10-30-2012 02:00 PM

If that were the conspiracy, they would have started to run the ball once Quinn was injured.

loochy 10-30-2012 02:22 PM

I can't believe he got Quinnjured so easily...it just doesn't add up. This is a Quinnjustice.

TimeForWasp 10-30-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9066137)
I can't believe he got Quinnjured so easily...it just doesn't add up. This is a Quinnjustice.

Is that a Quincere question?

loochy 10-30-2012 06:01 PM

All of this conspiracy talk is just Quinnsane

WhiteWhale 10-30-2012 07:29 PM

There is a perfectly logical explanation for JC only getting 5 carries.

We don't need a conspiracy.

Our coaching staff, particularly Crennel and Daboll, are completely incompetent at their jobs.

I think that's really all there is to it.


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