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htismaqe 10-30-2012 09:15 AM

Romeo throws half of the team under the bus...
 
Yet another reason having him being DC and HC at the same time is a bad idea.

When asked about the tension and angst that's created when you get "kicked" on both sides of the line of scrimmage, he said (and I'm paraphrasing):

"I don't think that's accurate. I don't think we got kicked on BOTH sides of the ball. The defense played well. We made some mistakes late in the game and let them get some yards but I don't think the defense got 'kicked' at all."

Chief_For_Life58 10-30-2012 09:20 AM

romeo just doesnt care. plain and simple. retire already with ur 3 fraud cheated superbowl rings thanks to tom brady and dissa ****ing pear already

KChiefer 10-30-2012 09:20 AM

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._mad_clown.gif

The Franchise 10-30-2012 09:21 AM

How the **** has Daboll not been fired yet?

Dr. Johnny Fever 10-30-2012 09:21 AM

I guess I don't see that as throwing anyone under the bus. The offense stinks so why blow sunshine up their butts. I'm betting the players would say the same thing.

jspchief 10-30-2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9065307)
How the **** has Daboll not been fired yet?

How the **** did he get hired?

htismaqe 10-30-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9065310)
I guess I don't see that as throwing anyone under the bus. The offense stinks so why blow sunshine up their butts. I'm betting the players would say the same thing.

The defense ****ing stinks too!

They're 32nd in the league in points against. They can't stop anybody.

It's selfish CYA bullshit from a guy that has no business being a head coach.

Scorp 10-30-2012 09:24 AM

Human nature says.....Boom!

ptlyon 10-30-2012 09:24 AM

Id call for the teams execution

ShortRoundChief 10-30-2012 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9065307)
How the **** has Daboll not been fired yet?

I suspect anything short of miraculous on Thursday will get that desired result.

themanwithnoname 10-30-2012 09:25 AM

Its nice just to see him say something that isn't functionally reeruned Pioli ventriloquism.

And yeah he should have added, "Its my fault for not having these guys ready."

Chief_For_Life58 10-30-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9065311)
How the **** did he get hired?

cus he had like the best offense ever the past teams hes been the offensive coordinator with right? I mean look at that high scoring powerful juggernot cleveland team he coached. WOW. I mean thats how you get offensive coordinator jobs right? Being really good and your team having success right?

Chief_For_Life58 10-30-2012 09:31 AM

I wish my company hired like pioli does. I'd be the CFO today. Any good chief financial officer experience worth noting to me before I hire you anyway? Uhh Yeah once I owned a lemonaid stand when I was 5 and I made 25 dollars in quarters! And one time I bought a 30 pack of budlight because it was on sale! Pioli- Oh thats perfect. Yeah youre hired!

scho63 10-30-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9065296)
Yet another reason having him being DC and HC at the same time is a bad idea.

When asked about the tension and angst that's created when you get "kicked" on both sides of the line of scrimmage, he said (and I'm paraphrasing):

"I don't think that's accurate. I don't think we got kicked on BOTH sides of the ball. The defense played well. We made some mistakes late in the game and let them get some yards but I don't think the defense got 'kicked' at all."

What is he supposed to say? The defense is his baby and an ugly baby at that!

htismaqe 10-30-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9065342)
What is he supposed to say? The defense is his baby and an ugly baby at that!

He's the head coach.

He could have said "we didn't get kicked, on either side of the ball".

Singling out the offense is bush league.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2012 09:41 AM

I'm listening now. He sounds like a guy on his way out the door. I wonder if the money is worth the further tarnishment of his reputation.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2012 09:41 AM

The defense has definately not played to billing, but the team is allowing TWELVE points a game off turnovers alone. Most of those caused opponents to have amazing field position. That's crazy.

Rausch 10-30-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9065359)
He's the head coach.

He could have said "we didn't get kicked, on either side of the ball".

Singling out the offense is bush league.

Special teams also had a fumble and a penalty that put 3 pts on the board...

Marcellus 10-30-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9065364)
The defense has definately not played to billing, but the team is allowing TWELVE points a game off turnovers alone. Most of those caused opponents to have amazing field position. That's crazy.

Bingo.

The offense is wearing the **** out of the defense. After that fumble on the 1st play of the 3rd quarter you could tell the defense was deflated.

Hey thanks for giving them the ball on the 20 again and not giving us any relief.

Rausch 10-30-2012 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9065364)
The defense has definately not played to billing, but the team is allowing TWELVE points a game off turnovers alone. Most of those caused opponents to have amazing field position. That's crazy.

If I had to venture a wild guess I'd say better than 60% were on our side of the field...

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2012 09:44 AM

They allow 6 points going into the half without that goofed punt. That's a good effort. The 2nd half starts with a muffed snap deep in their own territory. It's a ****ing travesty.

Old Dog 10-30-2012 09:45 AM

Well then he needs to back that somabitch up and get the other half as well. Then he needs to drive the whole fricking thing off of a cliff.

BoneKrusher 10-30-2012 09:46 AM

the team can't throw his fat ass under the bus, it wouldn't fit.

ILChief 10-30-2012 09:46 AM

If (when) we get blown out Thursday, he is gone. Probably would have yesterday if this wasn't a short week

Marcellus 10-30-2012 09:48 AM

WTF is going to be interim coach, Jim Zorn? I say fire Pioli and ride it out with RAC.

htismaqe 10-30-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9065364)
The defense has definately not played to billing, but the team is allowing TWELVE points a game off turnovers alone. Most of those caused opponents to have amazing field position. That's crazy.

It doesn't matter.

He's not the defensive coordinator, he's the head coach. Or at least he's getting paid to be the head coach.

Al Bundy 10-30-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9065317)
Id call for the teams execution

John McKay (First Buccaneers head coach) was once asked about his team's execution. "I'm all for it", he replied.

The Bad Guy 10-30-2012 09:49 AM

Thursday is going to be very telling. Clark will have basically an entire weekend to throw Pioli out and get someone up to speed before they play the Steelers on MNF.

This is the week they need to get embarrassed.

jspchief 10-30-2012 09:49 AM

Do I have to break down what this D has done (or failed to do) in the first quarter of games this year? They start pissing down their legs just as quickly as the offense does. Don't start making excuses for the D, because they come out of the tunnel failing.

htismaqe 10-30-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9065373)
They allow 6 points going into the half without that goofed punt. That's a good effort. The 2nd half starts with a muffed snap deep in their own territory. It's a ****ing travesty.

It doesn't matter.

A head coach - a LEADER - doesn't say what he said. Ever.

The Bad Guy 10-30-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9065383)
WTF is going to be interim coach, Jim Zorn? I say fire Pioli and ride it out with RAC.

For what?

The Franchise 10-30-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9065387)
Thursday is going to be very telling. Clark will have basically an entire weekend to throw Pioli out and get someone up to speed before they play the Steelers on MNF.

This is the week they need to get embarrassed.

I'm really hoping we don't score ANY points.

Micjones 10-30-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9065383)
WTF is going to be interim coach, Jim Zorn? I say fire Pioli and ride it out with RAC.

Either Zorn or Carthon.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2012 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9065400)
Either Zorn or Carthon.

Carthon is a complete joke and will never have a job outside the "tree".

I think that Zorn is bright enough to politely decline that offer.

I wouldn't fire anyone. Crash and burn, baby.

Crash and burn.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9065384)
It doesn't matter.

He's not the defensive coordinator, he's the head coach. Or at least he's getting paid to be the head coach.

I agree.

Rooster 10-30-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9065383)
WTF is going to be interim coach, Jim Zorn? I say fire Pioli and ride it out with RAC.

That is my thought too. We don't want these guys trying too hard with a new coach. They have to lose games.

Ace Gunner 10-30-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9065311)
How the **** did he get hired?

"he did a great job with Matt Moore in Miami"

Ace Gunner 10-30-2012 10:16 AM

it's players fellas. you got to have players that can play at this level. the chiefs don't have but a few. Hence an idiot like Daboll looks good at miami 2011 and like dog poop in KC 2012.

boogblaster 10-30-2012 10:16 AM

can the bus driver throw a ball 50 yards .. snap the ball without bouncing it .. cover the slant routes .. hire him and fire the rest .....

Chief3188 10-30-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9065421)
Carthon is a complete joke and will never have a job outside the "tree".

I think that Zorn is bright enough to politely decline that offer.

I wouldn't fire anyone. Crash and burn, baby.

Crash and burn.

Agreed. There is no need to to try and fix the train mid wreck. Let's finish this and get the 1st pick.

htismaqe 10-30-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9065427)
I agree.

So you get my point?

I mean, that's what is REALLY wrong with this team.

The losing, on the field, is a by-product of the environment.

People say that the candy wrapper stuff doesn't matter. They don't care that the media has to have escorts to take a leak. When Romeo says stuff like this, it's just "coach speak" or "what should he have said".

When it comes down to it, all of the above are SYMPTOMS. Indicators of a front office that is self-absorbed, paranoid, and capable of disparaging ANYBODY, including their friends, if that's what it takes.

It's no wonder they are losing. They're LOSERS.

TEX 10-30-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9065490)
So you get my point?

I mean, that's what is REALLY wrong with this team.

The losing, on the field, is a by-product of the environment.

People say that the candy wrapper stuff doesn't matter. They don't care that the media has to have escorts to take a leak. When Romeo says stuff like this, it's just "coach speak" or "what should he have said".

When it comes down to it, all of the above are SYMPTOMS. Indicators of a front office that is self-absorbed, paranoid, and capable of disparaging ANYBODY, including their friends, if that's what it takes.

It's no wonder they are losing. They're LOSERS.

Exactly. Pioli should bug his own office so he'll understand this.

The Iron Chief 10-30-2012 10:59 AM

http://i45.tinypic.com/yyr7c.jpg

THEN

http://i50.tinypic.com/23sjhoz.jpg

Shit Happens

http://i48.tinypic.com/149vzx5.jpg


Time to Flush!

I was caught up in the good feeling at the end of the yr like many but its obvious now we were thinking with our Dicks and not our Brains.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-30-2012 10:59 AM

**** this staff in the ass already.

Unsmooth-Moment 10-30-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9065313)
The defense ****ing stinks too!

They're 32nd in the league in points against. They can't stop anybody.

It's selfish CYA bullshit from a guy that has no business being a head coach.

It would appear they stink.. I'm going to say the biggest reason that our rank is 32 is because of the offensive turnovers. A lot of turnovers inside our 40.

htismaqe 10-30-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 9065647)
It would appear they stink.. I'm going to say the biggest reason that our rank is 32 is because of the offensive turnovers. A lot of turnovers inside our 40.

I'm gonna say the biggest reason our rank is 32 is because they suck, from the coach on down.

BossChief 10-30-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9065383)
WTF is going to be interim coach, Jim Zorn? I say fire Pioli and ride it out with RAC.

I've said a few times that I'd like to see Zorn as the interim hc and Thomas as the interim dc.

They are the two coaches we have that aren't patriot way.

ChiefsCountry 10-30-2012 12:22 PM

Kill the head of the snake (Pioli) and the rest of the body will die with it (Romeo and Cassel)

kcxiv 10-30-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9065313)
The defense ****ing stinks too!

They're 32nd in the league in points against. They can't stop anybody.

It's selfish CYA bullshit from a guy that has no business being a head coach.

well, the offense has given the Defense very very short fields. I wonder how many of the points came because turnovers for a very short field for the opponent.

The oppposing offense usually doesnt have a very big field. I know they have fumbled and intercepted quite a few times deep in their own side of the field.

But this whole team does blow right now. They just arent playing hard for gramps

whoman69 10-30-2012 02:02 PM

This is not a toss the team under the bus statement. You need lessons from this guy to learn how to do that.

http://www.pushpage.me/assets/img/objects/2063/11.jpeg

Oh Snap 10-30-2012 02:23 PM

Yea, the defense just gave up 26 points to a team that was at or near the bottom in every offensive statistic. The fact is, the raiders were a two win team going into week seven...we still lost by two scores.

Oh Snap 10-30-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9066092)
This is not a toss the team under the bus statement. You need lessons from this guy to learn how to do that.

http://www.pushpage.me/assets/img/objects/2063/11.jpeg

Our best players (who are actually pretty damn good players) are from the Herm era. Bowe, Charles, Hali, Flowers, and Albert were all left overs from the herm era. I'm not saying herm was a great coach, but we haven't exactly struck gold in the draft under Mr. Patriot Genius. This is one area Herm excelled at. I would be open to herm returning as possibly a scout. I've even heard his name thrown around as a possible GM...Take from that what you will.

Woodchuck 10-30-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9065310)
I guess I don't see that as throwing anyone under the bus. The offense stinks so why blow sunshine up their butts. I'm betting the players would say the same thing.

Yep, the defense gets the raw deal more often than not. Think about it...

The defense intercepted the first pass of the game. The offense went three and out.

The defense held Oakland to a FG after Quinn was intercepted even though they started on the KC 45.

When the score was 6-6, Arenas muffed a punt giving Oakland the ball at KC's 14. Oakland gets a TD from there like they should and it's 13-6.

Cassel/Lilja muff the snap straight out of the gate and Oakland gets the ball on the KC 18. They hold Oakland to a FG.

Janowkowski wide right on a FG attempt. Jalil Brown was offsides. He gets to re-kick it and it's good.

13 of the 26 points were not on the defense imo.

RAC should not have spoken out. He should have just fired Daboll.

bevischief 10-30-2012 02:38 PM

Just fire the management and forfeit the rest of the season.

Buckweath 10-30-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9066182)
Yep, the defense gets the raw deal more often than not. Think about it...

The defense intercepted the first pass of the game. The offense went three and out.

The defense held Oakland to a FG after Quinn was intercepted even though they started on the KC 45.

When the score was 6-6, Arenas muffed a punt giving Oakland the ball at KC's 14. Oakland gets a TD from there like they should and it's 13-6.

Cassel/Lilja muff the snap straight out of the gate and Oakland gets the ball on the KC 18. They hold Oakland to a FG.

Janowkowski wide right on a FG attempt. Jalil Brown was offsides. He gets to re-kick it and it's good.

13 of the 26 points were not on the defense imo.

RAC should not have spoken out. He should have just fired Daboll.

This D is slightly disappointing considering my borderline top 5 expectations but they' ve been put in bad position way too many times by turnovers and the offense won't give them a break. Overall, I think the D has done fine.

htismaqe 10-30-2012 03:06 PM

Here's the thing:

If Romeo Crennel is JUST the head coach, and not the defensive coordinator, he removes any potential conflict of interest.

As it is, there's no way he can make it look like he's NOT covering his own ass.

He should have kept his mouth shut.

Or hired a defensive coordinator.

Marcellus 10-30-2012 03:16 PM

After backing the bus over half the team, he should run a steam roller over the other half. Don't go half-assed.

htismaqe 10-30-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9066341)
After backing the bus over half the team, he should run a steam roller over the other half. Don't go half-assed.

ROFL

HMc 10-30-2012 06:14 PM

i guess i would consider this to be "throwing them under the bus" if they weren't six shades of sh1t every sunday. I guess if you think he should have chucked the D and ST under with them then that's a fair criticism

Rausch 10-30-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9066166)
Our best players (who are actually pretty damn good players) are from the Herm era. Bowe, Charles, Hali, Flowers, and Albert were all left overs from the herm era. I'm not saying herm was a great coach, but we haven't exactly struck gold in the draft under Mr. Patriot Genius. This is one area Herm excelled at. I would be open to herm returning as possibly a scout. I've even heard his name thrown around as a possible GM...Take from that what you will.

Herm was an excellent scout of talent but he's a pathetic HC...

The Mayor 10-30-2012 07:06 PM

I'm thankful for RAC. If the Chiefs had a coach of even limited competence, they might win six meaningless games. With Romeo at the helm, they might not win another. This team needed to hit rock bottom (again). The only way to replace this awful regime.

Rain Man 10-30-2012 07:08 PM

Our offense is 31st in the league in points scored, while our defense is 28th in points allowed. It's clear that the offense is the problem.

fire_egoli 10-30-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9067133)
Our offense is 31st in the league in points scored, while our defense is 28th in points allowed. It's clear that the offense is the problem.

~200 points given up off turnovers

AussieChiefsFan 10-30-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fire_egoli (Post 9067162)
~200 points given up off turnovers

:banghead:

Saccopoo 10-30-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9067208)
:banghead:

That's coaching, pure and simple.

Marty's teams were always competitive for one reason - the were always leading the NFL in takeaways.

They never gave up the ball and always ended up positive in takeaways.

This team is ****ing sloppy as all hell. Completely undisciplined. And that's why were are getting shellacked every ****ing week.

Coaching matters, even when these lazy one who sucks the peniss shouldn't need it getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. Someone needs to be there and ram the basics and fundamentals up their collective asses with a broomstick. Ingrain it into their very existence.

These are a bunch of high profile college guys that succeeded at that level by simply being better than the other guy because they were (athletically, naturally, whatever). Fundamentals. Shove that shit up their asses.

But "player coaches" like Herm and Romeo aren't doing it.

Fire these pricks and get someone in here that will teach these guys how to play some ****ing football.

Can we get Fisher Deberry and Bill Synder to come in here on a daily basis after this season?

htismaqe 10-30-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMc (Post 9066968)
i guess i would consider this to be "throwing them under the bus" if they weren't six shades of sh1t every sunday. I guess if you think he should have chucked the D and ST under with them then that's a fair criticism

Honestly, he would have been better off just saying "we didn't get kicked", emphasis on the word "we".

But he's the defensive coordinator, so going of the way he did going out of his way to talk up the defense makes him look self-serving and petty. Not what you want out of your HEAD COACH.

Then again, there's not much he does that you want out of your head coach.

HMc 10-30-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9067252)
Honestly, he would have been better off just saying "we didn't get kicked", emphasis on the word "we".

But he's the defensive coordinator, so going of the way he did going out of his way to talk up the defense makes him look self-serving and petty. Not what you want out of your HEAD COACH.

Then again, there's not much he does that you want out of your head coach.

so you want him to say LESS interesting things at the presser?

agree with the second bit.

But I don't think the head coach has to defend the team's honour. He should hav acknowledge that they were kicked in every respect. IMO.


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