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RunKC 11-06-2012 10:06 PM

Andy Reid
 
Get him Clark.

Bring in the walrus!LMAO

But seriously, he's getting the shaft in Philly. He's the best coach of the realistic options who proven the most.

Sorter 11-06-2012 10:08 PM

His offensive line is ridiculously bad. He's responsible for that.

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:08 PM

Thread starting privileges: you should probably lose them.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 10:08 PM

**** you!

rabblerouser 11-06-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093084)
Get him Clark.

Bring in the walrus!LMAO

But seriously, he's getting the shaft in Philly. He's the best coach of the realistic options who proven the most.

No.

:harumph:

TRR 11-06-2012 10:10 PM

Please no. Reid should have been fired years ago in Philly after pinning his hopes to Kevin Kolb (and Michael Vick).

New World Order 11-06-2012 10:10 PM

OC Absolutely.

HC No.

Red Beans 11-06-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093084)
.

Bring in the walrus!LMAO

Goo Goo G'joob...**** you.

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9093094)
His offensive line is ridiculously bad. He's responsible for that.

That line would be just fine if Peters was healthy and they were playing a traditional QB.

JMO.

Id be just fine with Reid, but I hate it when people make ignorant threads just because. This has already been discussed forward and back.

Crush 11-06-2012 10:11 PM

http://i49.tinypic.com/t8uuix.gif

He doesn't know how to run the ball.

Coach 11-06-2012 10:13 PM

:facepalm:

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:15 PM

Reid runs the west coast offense.

If we are gonna draft Geno or Barkley, there aren't many better options than Andy Reid.

The option shouldn't be easily thrown out or discounted.

RunKC 11-06-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093095)
Thread starting privileges: you should probably lose them.

5 championship games and a SB appearance. Find another coach who is as good or STFU.

Btw-Cowher is not realistic. At all.

Ceej 11-06-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093095)
Thread starting privileges: you should probably lose them.

This xxxxx eleventy Brazilian!

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093157)
5 championship games and a SB appearance. Find another coach who is as good or STFU.

Btw-Cowher is not realistic. At all.

Go fist your cat.

New World Order 11-06-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9093124)
http://i49.tinypic.com/t8uuix.gif

He doesn't know how to run the ball.




Once we get our franchise qb we wont have to. :hmmm:

RunKC 11-06-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093186)
Go fist your cat.

Brilliant insight.

Just like your insight of trading for Tony ****ing Romo ROFL

Sorter 11-06-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093113)
That line would be just fine if Peters was healthy and they were playing a traditional QB.

JMO.

Id be just fine with Reid, but I hate it when people make ignorant threads just because. This has already been discussed forward and back.

Yeah, Peters being hurt ruined that team. I don't think a traditional QB survives behind that line though right now. Vick is a tough SOB.

Bugeater 11-06-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093095)
Thread starting privileges: you should probably lose them.

#SAVEOURCHIEFSPLANET

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9093191)
Once we get our franchise qb we wont have to. :hmmm:

Bullshit.

You dont throw a rookie franchise qb out there and make him throw 45 times a game..thats a recipe for disaster.

You try to replicate what Ben Rothlisberger and Tom Brady did by replicating those run/pass ratios.

I think we have just the RB stable to do just that...JC, Droughn and Grey are all capable of handling the load while the QB learns.

You dont want the kid exposed due to predictability.

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093197)
Brilliant insight.

Just like your insight of trading for Tony ****ing Romo ROFL

does your mom still smell like my pee?

New World Order 11-06-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093230)
Bullshit.

You dont throw a rookie franchise qb out there and make him throw 45 times a game..thats a recipe for disaster.

You try to replicate what Ben Rothlisberger and Tom Brady did by replicating those run/pass ratios.

I think we have just the RB stable to do just that...JC, Droughn and Grey are all capable of handling the load while the QB learns.

You dont want the kid exposed due to predictability.



Well it was sort of a joke. Relax.

Ceej 11-06-2012 10:27 PM

The big question about Reid is: can he handle a route canal?

That's really my main concern.

Easy 6 11-06-2012 10:27 PM

NO

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:29 PM

EVERYTHING from here on out needs to be predicated on two things:

Developing a franchise quarterback and developing an attacking defense.

We do those two things and this team is gonna catch lightening in a bottle and not let it go for 15 years.

New World Order 11-06-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093230)
Bullshit.

You dont throw a rookie franchise qb out there and make him throw 45 times a game..thats a recipe for disaster.

You try to replicate what Ben Rothlisberger and Tom Brady did by replicating those run/pass ratios.

I think we have just the RB stable to do just that...JC, Droughn and Grey are all capable of handling the load while the QB learns.

You dont want the kid exposed due to predictability.



btw, what is so great about Shaun Draughn? What other bruising rb are we going to get to complement Charles? We should of went after Michael Bush last year.

mcaj22 11-06-2012 10:43 PM

Reid is definitely one of the best options out of all the turds we have to pick from when it comes to QB development

so when it comes down to it do I want a coach that hasnt coached in the NFL in 6 years (Cowher) and deal with another potential ego maniac that thinks he has a clue or just take a turd that currently has been in the NFL (Reid) but willing to delegate control (have a GM).

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9093301)
btw, what is so great about Shaun Draughn? What other bruising rb are we going to get to complement Charles? We should of went after Michael Bush last year.

The kid has done a damn fine job picking up chunks of yards when the team has no real threat of a passing game to help out.

If we get a QB that can force teams to back those safeties off, these 3 backs can go after the throat of opposing defenses.

Sorter 11-06-2012 10:48 PM

I would rather see Cyrus get Draughn's reps. I'm biased though.

mcaj22 11-06-2012 10:51 PM

i would rather see anyone but Peyton Hillis run the football.

dont care who. it could be the corpse of Kolby Smith out there for all I care

ChiefMojo 11-06-2012 10:52 PM

I like Andy Reid as a coach but the man needs to remember there is such thing as running the ball. Like so many other offensive minded head coaches, he has become so tunnel vision with the pass he has neglected a important aspect of keeping defenses honest and wearing them down with the run.

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9093442)
I would rather see Cyrus get Draughn's reps. I'm biased though.

I cant say I disagree with you.

Everytime I saw Cyrus play, I couldn't get a certain player out of my mind.

I'm not gonna say his name.

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9093465)
i would rather see anyone but Peyton Hillis run the football.

dont care who. it could be the corpse of Kolby Smith out there for all I care

IMO they should have cut him to sign Smith...not Routt.

Hopefully, they let Brown play a lot more because he needs to playing time to help him develop.

I still think the kid has some real potential.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9093465)
i would rather see anyone but Peyton Hillis run the football.

do you think they use him correctly. Just wondering - or do you think he downright sucks?

chiefzilla1501 11-06-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9093465)
i would rather see anyone but Peyton Hillis run the football.

dont care who. it could be the corpse of Kolby Smith out there for all I care

Peyton Hillis will be fine. A runner like him can't have 8-9 guys stacking a line and playing 15 yards and in.

Sorter 11-06-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093475)
I cant say I disagree with you.

Everytime I saw Cyrus play, I couldn't get a certain player out of my mind.

I'm not gonna say his name.

:)

chiefzilla1501 11-06-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9093414)
Reid is definitely one of the best options out of all the turds we have to pick from when it comes to QB development

so when it comes down to it do I want a coach that hasnt coached in the NFL in 6 years (Cowher) and deal with another potential ego maniac that thinks he has a clue or just take a turd that currently has been in the NFL (Reid) but willing to delegate control (have a GM).

This is why you hire a defensive head coach and give an offensive coordinator free reign.

For example, hire a defensive coach then hire Norv as your offensive coordinator.

Sorter 11-06-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9093491)
Peyton Hillis will be fine. A runner like him can't have 8-9 guys stacking a line and playing 15 yards and in.

Because people didn't do that in Cleveland because they were worried about Colt "Bret Favre arm strength" McCoy throwing down the field. LMAO

BossChief 11-06-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9093491)
Peyton Hillis will be fine. A runner like him can't have 8-9 guys stacking a line and playing 15 yards and in.

Stop making excuses for the pussy.

He runs like LJ circa 2009.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093512)
Stop making excuses for the pussy.

He runs like LJ circa 2009.

Milkman told me that all he needs is a crease, in the chat on game day, very next play he busted like 13yds. I really think they're shoveling to him too much. JM'GDMF'O though.

007 11-06-2012 11:02 PM

no ****ing retreads

chiefzilla1501 11-06-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093512)
Stop making excuses for the pussy.

He runs like LJ circa 2009.

I'm not making excuses. I'm pointing out reality. I'm watching defenses play 1-deep safety coverage, and defenses are literally not honoring ANYTHING beyond 15 yards. You have an interior runner and a wall of defenders. Even Jamaal Charles has been 50/50 behind this.

At this point, apart from the QB, it's hard to take much stock in how bad a lot of these players are. Because nobody is playing close to their potential, but that doesn't rule out that they could with a new regime.

Chief Roundup 11-06-2012 11:06 PM

Mixed feelings about Andy Reid. He fits a lot of the things you want. But he has had a lot of opportunities. We certainly could do worse. He would give the Chiefs instant legitimacy at the position much like Vermeil did after that other run of horrible coaches.

chiefzilla1501 11-06-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9093506)
Because people didn't do that in Cleveland because they were worried about Colt "Bret Favre arm strength" McCoy throwing down the field. LMAO

Actually, for as bad as the Browns' QBs were in 2010, they were generally throwing the ball for over 200 yards on a regular basis. They started to tighten up a lot in 2011 as they moved to Shurmur's offense and Shurmur put no trust in McCoy. Incidentally, that was the same time that Hillis started to shut down.

Hillis isn't a Bettis back that can destroy everyone in his path. He needs a little bit of a head of steam. That doesn't happen when the only thing open is a brick wall.

mcaj22 11-06-2012 11:09 PM

only thing open is a brick wall? even with teams stacking the box we STILL HAVE ONE OF THE BEST OFFENSIVE LINES IN THE LEAGUE.

we have a top 10 LT and a top 5 RT. And the patchwork in the middle is even decent.

We arent some Eagles offensive line missing the best LT in game and their RT and has a bunch of other bums on it..

The fact of the matter is guys like Matt Cassel and Peyton Hillis are fools gold. Pats Tree bullshit Pioli and Daboll fools gold

Chief Roundup 11-06-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9093505)
This is why you hire a defensive head coach and give an offensive coordinator free reign.

For example, hire a defensive coach then hire Norv as your offensive coordinator.

I would normally probably agree with this but with the probably of us drafting a 1st round QB and the need for that player to be successful we should probably get a coach that has had success with QB development. Once the QB is developed it doesn't matter nearly as much.

Sorter 11-06-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9093567)
Actually, for as bad as the Browns' QBs were in 2010, they were generally throwing the ball for over 200 yards on a regular basis. They started to tighten up a lot in 2011 as they moved to Shurmur's offense and Shurmur put no trust in McCoy. Incidentally, that was the same time that Hillis started to shut down.

Hillis isn't a Bettis back that can destroy everyone in his path. He needs a little bit of a head of steam. That doesn't happen when the only thing open is a brick wall.

Totally agree

Rausch 11-06-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9093607)
I would normally probably agree with this but with the probably of us drafting a 1st round QB and the need for that player to be successful we should probably get a coach that has had success with QB development. Once the QB is developed it doesn't matter nearly as much.

This...

smittysbar 11-06-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9093219)
Yeah, Peters being hurt ruined that team. I don't think a traditional QB survives behind that line though right now. Vick is a tough SOB.

This

fire_egoli 11-06-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9093586)
only thing open is a brick wall? even with teams stacking the box we STILL HAVE ONE OF THE BEST OFFENSIVE LINES IN THE LEAGUE.

we have a top 10 LT and a top 5 RT. And the patchwork in the middle is even decent.

We arent some Eagles offensive line missing the best LT in game and their RT and has a bunch of other bums on it..

The fact of the matter is guys like Matt Cassel and Peyton Hillis are fools gold. Pats Tree bullshit Pioli and Daboll fools gold

winston is a top 5 RT? he's got his ass kicked all year

Rausch 11-06-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fire_egoli (Post 9093685)
winston is a top 5 RT? he's got his ass kicked all year

Lilja is also about as accurate with his snaps as Ca$$hole is his passes.

RunKC 11-06-2012 11:31 PM

Andy Reid runs a great offense that is extremely QB friendly, plus the guy knows how to find talent. Nobody in this organization right now has a clue on how to develop a QB.

And to everyone saying he doesn't run the ball, look at what LeSean McCoy did last year and what his rush offense did the year before?

Put Reid with a good DC like Ron Rivera and we're in business.

Simply Red 11-06-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093705)
Andy Reid runs a great offense that is extremely QB friendly, plus the guy knows how to find talent. Nobody in this organization right now has a clue on how to develop a QB.

And to everyone saying he doesn't run the ball, look at what LeSean McCoy did last year and what his rush offense did the year before?

Put Reid with a good DC like Ron Rivera and we're in business.

Andy Reid hates the Chiefs and he hates you.

BossChief 11-06-2012 11:42 PM

Thats my only problem with Reid.

I think he would want to hire his own DC and would try to switch and would back to a 4-3.
If Reid would be able to recognize that all this defense needs is an aggressive play caller that runs a 1 gap 3-4 base d, he could be a damn good hire.

I just dont see that happening.

New World Order 11-06-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9093471)
I like Andy Reid as a coach but the man needs to remember there is such thing as running the ball. Like so many other offensive minded head coaches, he has become so tunnel vision with the pass he has neglected a important aspect of keeping defenses honest and wearing them down with the run.



Well I think Reid understands it is a passing league.

Priest31kc 11-06-2012 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fire_egoli (Post 9093685)
winston is a top 5 RT? he's got his ass kicked all year

Oh god, here's fire egoli's daily hate on the offensive line. Ya know, one of the best parts of this shit team. LEARN HOW TO WATCH FOOTBALLZ.

RunKC 11-06-2012 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093750)
Thats my only problem with Reid.

I think he would want to hire his own DC and would try to switch and would back to a 4-3.
If Reid would be able to recognize that all this defense needs is an aggressive play caller that runs a 1 gap 3-4 base d, he could be a damn good hire.

I just dont see that happening.

What if he agrees to keep the 3-4 and brings in a DC like Ron Rivera?

After what has happened to his defense this year and him failing to find a DC, I don't think he will have any play on what to do with a defense on his next team.

BossChief 11-06-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093796)
What if he agrees to keep the 3-4 and brings in a DC like Ron Rivera?

After what has happened to his defense this year and him failing to find a DC, I don't think he will have any play on what to do with a defense on his next team.

Bullshit. Head coaches chose their coaching staffs (except in KC under Pioli)

If he would hire Rivera or Rex Ryan (if he gets fired in NY) Id FULLY back him as the HC except if Cowher were to want the job and a guy like Gailey or Norv could be brought in to be the OC.

I really think this team NEEDS a veteran coaching staff with solid leadership qualities that holds players accountable.

New World Order 11-06-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093827)
Bullshit. Head coaches chose their coaching staffs (except in KC under Pioli)

If he would hire Rivera or Rex Ryan (if he gets fired in NY) Id FULLY back him as the HC except if Cowher were to want the job and a guy like Gailey or Norv could be brought in to be the OC.

I really think this team NEEDS a veteran coaching staff with solid leadership qualities that holds players accountable.


We need structure and discipline before anything. Cowher is just the coach to put that in order.

Chief Roundup 11-06-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9093796)
What if he agrees to keep the 3-4 and brings in a DC like Ron Rivera?

After what has happened to his defense this year and him failing to find a DC, I don't think he will have any play on what to do with a defense on his next team.

You don't hire someone to do a job and then immediately start telling them what to do. If you have to do that then you don't make the hire.

Rausch 11-06-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093827)

I really think this team NEEDS a veteran coaching staff with solid leadership qualities that holds players accountable.

This.

I don't mind promoting a NFL coordinator but I don't want to gamble on a college guy...

fire_egoli 11-06-2012 11:57 PM

WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST STFU

Chief Roundup 11-06-2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9093853)
This.

I don't mind promoting a NFL coordinator but I don't want to gamble on a college guy...

Is it really a larger gamble that a college HC can make the transition to NFL HC than it is for a NFL coordinator that hasn't been a HC?

mcaj22 11-07-2012 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fire_egoli (Post 9093685)
winston is a top 5 RT? he's got his ass kicked all year

im pretty sure he is or was one of the few guys that grades out positive on PFF from this piece of shit team.

which is kind of amazing if you think about it, because there is a ton of garbage on this team. So for guys like Winston and Albert to grade out positively, you know they have some sort of talent at what they do.

BossChief 11-07-2012 01:39 AM

Albert is the top rated OT in the NFL on PFF and Winston is #8. Clay posted the screen shot a day or two ago.

mcaj22 11-07-2012 01:41 AM

yea so my original point stands then, Peyton Hills ****ing sucks. You cant use some o-line defense that there is a brick wall when hes running behind the top rated OT and #8 RT in the NFL. No excuse, the guy is shit, fools gold, product of Dabolls piece of shit offense

BigChiefFan 11-07-2012 02:42 AM

I mentioned him as a candidate the other night and some poo pooed it. We need some proven leadership and Reid, has a nice track record. My concern is Jim Johnson was the real coach from the Eagles and we get screwed by hiring Reid. I do find the idea, better than some.

BlackHelicopters 11-07-2012 06:55 AM

Andy needs a year off to mourn. He is distracted. Need a change of scenery no doubt, but the NFL is a passing league, and who cares if he can't run the ball. Neither can we. Omaha.

ChiefMojo 11-11-2012 06:00 PM

Well things aren't going well for Andy. With that said I did like what they just said not long ago... The Eagles average 29 rushes a game this year. If Reid shows more balance, I like him better. Not #1 on my list but do sorta like Reid as a candidate in a new scenery.

Mr. Laz 11-11-2012 06:07 PM

i don't know

he's probably another guy that would be better off one step lower than he is

ChiefMojo 11-11-2012 06:09 PM

True but Reid has proven to be good for a long time. He just ran his time out at Philly. One gets to a point they need a change in scenery.

Mr. Laz 11-11-2012 06:36 PM

Isn't Reid supposed to be a QB guy?


doesn't seem like he's very good at developing QB to me ... at least not as a HC.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-11-2012 06:36 PM

What a huge bag o' FAILdicks this thread and idea overall are.

Titty Meat 11-11-2012 06:37 PM

The guy is obviously burnt out. No thanks.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-11-2012 06:38 PM

Rather have Chip.







































And Tyler Wilson.:D

GloryDayz 11-11-2012 06:39 PM

I say go get Jimmy Johnson.... As a HC he dressed-down Jerry Jones in front of the players. We could use that kind of leadership.

Marco Polo 11-11-2012 06:39 PM

Chip, please.

RunKC 08-25-2013 04:16 AM

Oh how I love this thread.

Suck a dick, BossChief!

BossChief 08-27-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9093750)
Thats my only problem with Reid.

I think he would want to hire his own DC and would try to switch and would back to a 4-3.
If Reid would be able to recognize that all this defense needs is an aggressive play caller that runs a 1 gap 3-4 base d, he could be a damn good hire.

I just dont see that happening.

Just quoting this to show the bitches what I thought about Reid well before the hire.

Chief_For_Life58 08-27-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9920435)
Just quoting this to show the bitches what I thought about Reid well before the hire.

k


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