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ROYC75 11-27-2012 01:18 PM

Belgian man finds out his wife of 19 years was born a man !
 
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11...est=latestnews

How does this grab you balls , Bob ?



A Belgian man is battling the country’s court system to get his marriage annulled after finding out that his wife of 19 years was born a man.

Jan, identified only by his first name, told the Het Nieuwsblad newspaper that he discovered his Indonesian wife Monica underwent a sex change after he and his son heard rumors, according to the Telegraph.

"I brought her to Belgium. That was not easy. The Belgian courts had serious doubts about the authenticity of her birth and her identity papers, but eventually they accepted it anyway,” he said. “I thought she was an attractive woman, all woman. She had no male traits."

Jan, who is now undergoing psychiatric treatment, added that he decided not to have children with his wife because he had two in his previous marriage, and that Monica pretended to menstruate by using sanitary towels, according to the newspaper report cited by the Telegraph.

Belgian courts have so far refused to let the marriage be annulled.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11...#ixzz2DS5N5pp1

threebag 11-27-2012 01:27 PM

That's ****ing Crying Game bullshit there.

LOCOChief 11-27-2012 01:30 PM

you'd think he'd figure that shit out after she kept leaving the lid up on the toilet

Donger 11-27-2012 01:32 PM

So, he waffled?

Radar Chief 11-27-2012 01:34 PM

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Grim 11-27-2012 01:40 PM

"Jan, identified only by his first name, told the Het Nieuwsblad newspaper that he discovered his Indonesian wife Monica underwent a sex change after he and his son heard rumors, according to the Telegraph."

This sentence confuses me.
He heard rumors, then she had a sex change? Wouldn't her hairy bean-bag have tipped him off at some point over 19 years?

Are they saying that the wife had a sex change in Indonesia 19 over years ago? Isn't that akin to brain surgery in Manila 19 years ago?

Shit does not compute.

Mile High Mania 11-27-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim (Post 9156863)
"Jan, identified only by his first name, told the Het Nieuwsblad newspaper that he discovered his Indonesian wife Monica underwent a sex change after he and his son heard rumors, according to the Telegraph."

This sentence confuses me.
He heard rumors, then she had a sex change? Wouldn't her hairy bean-bag have tipped him off at some point over 19 years?

Are they saying that the wife had a sex change in Indonesia 19 over years ago? Isn't that akin to brain surgery in Manila 19 years ago?

Shit does not compute.

Yeah, my read is that it had a sex change 19+ years ago... before they were married. Funny though. Sounds like he fought the GOVT on them to accept her certificate and make it all legal like, now he's fighting them again and saying "you were right 19 years ago".

Donger 11-27-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim (Post 9156863)
"Jan, identified only by his first name, told the Het Nieuwsblad newspaper that he discovered his Indonesian wife Monica underwent a sex change after he and his son heard rumors, according to the Telegraph."

This sentence confuses me.
He heard rumors, then she had a sex change? Wouldn't her hairy bean-bag have tipped him off at some point over 19 years?

Are they saying that the wife had a sex change in Indonesia 19 over years ago? Isn't that akin to brain surgery in Manila 19 years ago?

Shit does not compute.

It's just a poorly written sentence. They probably cut out some dangling participles or something.

scho63 11-27-2012 04:44 PM

19 years and she only wanted to do it doggy-style. What do you think tipped him off?

mikey23545 11-27-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9157344)
19 years and she only wanted to do it doggy-style. What do you think tipped him off?

The hairy cheeks?

FlaChief58 11-27-2012 04:48 PM

This did NOT happen in Florida FWIW

Radar Chief 11-27-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9157344)
19 years and she only wanted to do it doggy-style. What do you think tipped him off?

This one was a Bond girl and made it into Playboy.

http://lovecatmagazine.com/wp-conten...08/tula_01.jpg

Reaper16 11-27-2012 04:55 PM

It should be annulled because he's a total asshole. It's obvious that he doesn't love his spouse. I would like to think that a rational, decent person who has been in love with someone for nearly 2 decades would not suddenly fall out of love with that person because of a thing in the past that has had zero bearing on the relationship.

Saul Good 11-27-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9157397)
It should be annulled because he's a total asshole. It's obvious that he doesn't love his spouse. I would like to think that a rational, decent person who has been in love with someone for nearly 2 decades would not suddenly fall out of love with that person because of a thing in the past that has had zero bearing on the relationship.

Yeah. I would totally trust someone who lied about something that huge and went to those tremendous lengths to deceive me.

mikey23545 11-27-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9157397)
It should be annulled because he's a total asshole. It's obvious that he doesn't love his spouse. I would like to think that a rational, decent person who has been in love with someone for nearly 2 decades would not suddenly fall out of love with that person because of a thing in the past that has had zero bearing on the relationship.

Know how I know you're a transexual?

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:04 PM

There's a genetic medical condition where a child is born with anatomy of both sexes. It is of no fault of the child's or the parents'. Often, the doctor will ask the parents which sex they wish to raise the child, and then the doctor will work with that choice to basically surgically reconstruct the child. Suppose the child is chosen male anatomy, but has otherwise female traits and dispositions. The sense of frustration and confusion would often be extreme.

Is that what happened here?

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9157430)
Know how I know you're a transexual?

What if Reaper was? Should you ridicule him for that?

Donger 11-27-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9157397)
It should be annulled because he's a total asshole. It's obvious that he doesn't love his spouse. I would like to think that a rational, decent person who has been in love with someone for nearly 2 decades would not suddenly fall out of love with that person because of a thing in the past that has had zero bearing on the relationship.

A 19 year relationship based on deception?

mikey23545 11-27-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157438)
What if Reaper was? Should you ridicule him for that?

It's called humor, you self righteous moron.

And besides that, where was the ridicule?

notorious 11-27-2012 05:08 PM

He should have figured it out the first time she pitched.

Saul Good 11-27-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157435)
There's a genetic medical condition where a child is born with anatomy of both sexes. It is of no fault of the child's or the parents'. Often, the doctor will ask the parents which sex they wish to raise the child, and then the doctor will work with that choice to basically surgically reconstruct the child. Suppose the child is chosen male anatomy, but has otherwise female traits and dispositions. The sense of frustration and confusion would often be extreme.

Is that what happened here?

Not according to the headline. The condition you're referring to is actually MUCH more common than most people realize. Most of the time, I've heard the doctor just does it, and the parents never even know.

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9157445)
It's called humor, you moron.

It wasn't funny.

Saul Good 11-27-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157456)
It wasn't funny.

...and you know from funny.

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9157453)
Not according to the headline. The condition you're referring to is actually MUCH more common than most people realize. Most of the time, I've heard the doctor just does it, and the parents never even know.

That doesn't seem right.

Saul Good 11-27-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157469)
That doesn't seem right.

From what I have read, an admittedly limited amount, one set of organs is often much more defined than the other.

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9157445)
It's called humor, you self righteous moron.

And besides that, where was the ridicule?

I asked you a question.

mikey23545 11-27-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157456)
It wasn't funny.

Not on your planet, no.

mikey23545 11-27-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157480)
I asked you a question.

He wasn't ridiculed, rendering your stupid question moot.

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9157476)
From what I have read, an admittedly limited amount, one set of organs is often much more defined than the other.

That's what I'd heard, as well. The deferral is probably always to whichever set of organs is more defined.

FlaChief58 11-27-2012 05:18 PM

Sorry, I could'nt help myself

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unlurking 11-27-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157456)
It wasn't funny.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq...qua1o1_400.png

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9157490)
He wasn't ridiculed, rendering your stupid question moot.

1) I carry a default presumption with your posts that since you're a jackass, most of your comments have underlying pretexts of jackassery. 2) The "Know how I know you're . . . ." is a common phrase of snide accusation. 3) The question isn't moot even if there was no ridicule.

Saul Good 11-27-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157491)
That's what I'd heard, as well. The deferral is probably always to whichever set of organs is more defined.

Well, in most cases, the child is still genetically a male or female. Genetic testing can be done if the organs aren't defined enough so as to be clear.

mikey23545 11-27-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157508)
1) I carry a default presumption with your posts that since you're a jackass, most of your comments have underlying pretexts of jackassery. 2) The "Know how I know you're . . . ." is a common phrase of snide accusation. 3) The question isn't moot even if there was no ridicule.


Nobody wants to watch you wave your gay chivalry around.

We all know what an upstanding defender of human rights you are, as well as a pretentious, silly twat.

Jenson71 11-27-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9157520)
Nobody wants to watch you wave your gay chivalry around.

We all know what an upstanding defender of human rights you are, as well as a pretentious, silly twat.

That's as good of an admission of ridicule as I can expect, but not quite up to the level of a sincere apology for being a hateful jackass.

Dave Lane 11-27-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9157394)
This one was a Bond girl and made it into Playboy.

http://lovecatmagazine.com/wp-conten...08/tula_01.jpg

Damn now thats tough. Gotta go with Yes though.

Dave Lane 11-27-2012 05:52 PM

At bare minimum maybe with a few drinks LMAO

Frosty 11-27-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9157363)
This did NOT happen in Florida FWIW

It just isn't news there anymore.

Reaper16 11-27-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9157441)
A 19 year relationship based on deception?

I would hardly call that "based on" deception. Fact is, this guy is totally insecure. He's had a long, long relationship, presumably with no complaints. None of the honest, real feelings he had for his spouse should have been made to disappear because his spouse's sex at one point in her life didn't match up with her gender identity and presentation.

If this was in the first year of the relationship? By all means, throw a fit. After 19 years together? I think at that point you can admit that you love this person for who that person is.

unlurking 11-27-2012 07:12 PM

Can we say mail order bride? I'm not guessing there was a lot of "love and respect" in the first place. Time to upgrade to a newer model, and the factory warranty appears to be out of date.

Donger 11-27-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9157803)
I would hardly call that "based on" deception. Fact is, this guy is totally insecure. He's had a long, long relationship, presumably with no complaints. None of the honest, real feelings he had for his spouse should have been made to disappear because his spouse's sex at one point in her life didn't match up with her gender identity and presentation.

If this was in the first year of the relationship? By all means, throw a fit. After 19 years together? I think at that point you can admit that you love this person for who that person is.

Oh, I think it's probably likely that he assumed that the gal he was importing was actually a gal. Therefore, yes, the entire relationship was based on a falsehood that it chose to never tell the husband.

threebag 11-27-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9157354)
Capt Tasty Cheeks?

Just helping

seclark 11-27-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9156822)

Jan, who is now undergoing psychiatric treatment, added that he decided not to have children with his wife because he had two in his previous marriage, and that Monica pretended to menstruate by using sanitary towels, according to the newspaper report cited by the Telegraph.

i'm thinking that if jan fell for this for 19 years, monica deserves some props.
sec

bigjosh 11-27-2012 07:49 PM

instead of a Belgian waffle he ended up with a bratwurst.

threebag 11-27-2012 07:54 PM

Monica could probably suck the chowder out of a thermos.

ghak99 11-27-2012 08:10 PM

I'm guessing the odds of getting out of the Indonesian shit hole increased dramatically when he went from a mail order groom to a mail order bride.

Reaper16 11-27-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9157826)
Oh, I think it's probably likely that he assumed that the gal he was importing was actually a gal. Therefore, yes, the entire relationship was based on a falsehood that it chose to never tell the husband.

If this guy's intention was to marry a woman, any woman will do, and stay married...then I accept his behavior. I'd think its rare that a man would have that idea of marriage though.

saphojunkie 11-27-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158034)
If this guy's intention was to marry a woman, any woman will do, and stay married...then I accept his behavior. I'd think its rare that a man would have that idea of marriage though.

What?

Reaper16 11-27-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9158051)
What?

No one marries a woman just because she's a woman. There are other factors involved.

saphojunkie 11-27-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158063)
No one marries a woman just because she's a woman. There are other factors involved.

Oh, I get it.

You're saying that he didn't marry her solely on the idea of her being a woman, so once you remove that criteria, then he has no reason to divorce her without being an asshole.

Is that right?

Donger 11-27-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158034)
If this guy's intention was to marry a woman, any woman will do, and stay married...then I accept his behavior. I'd think its rare that a man would have that idea of marriage though.

Huh? What he married wasn't and isn't a woman. It's a guy who has had (apparently) his boy parts cut off to make it look like a woman. Since it didn't tell the guy that it used to be a male, it's deception.

Donger 11-27-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158063)
No one marries a woman just because she's a woman. There are other factors involved.

Indeed there are, but that's a rather important part piece of the deal, no?

Rausch 11-27-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158034)
If this guy's intention was to marry a woman, any woman will do, and stay married...then I accept his behavior. I'd think its rare that a man would have that idea of marriage though.

Uh, no.

Reaper16 11-27-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9158089)
Indeed there are, but that's a rather important part piece of the deal, no?

Of course it is.

If you're using "based on deception" to mean "began with deception" then I'd have to agree.

If you're using "based on deception" to mean "the majority of the relationship is grounded in deception" then I'd disagree. The majority of their presumably happily-married time together is based on so many other factors: their compatibility, their romantic moments, their legitimate enjoyment of each other, etc.

ghak99 11-27-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158063)
No one marries a woman just because she's a woman. There are other factors involved.

This is bullshit.

I know of three older men who imported mail order brides and at least 4 old retired farmers who moved in the first female they could find who did dishes and sucked cock.

I thought about this for ~3 minutes and came up with at least 6 men who married the first vagina they could buy, I'm sure there are thousands more.

Imon Yourside 11-27-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seclark (Post 9157906)
i'm thinking that if jan fell for this for 19 years, monica deserves some props.
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It should be fairly easy, some Ketchup and acting a total bitch for a few days isn't exactly Quantum Physics. Also of note it isn't Monica it's Monico.

wazu 11-28-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 9158487)
This is bullshit.

I know of three older men who imported mail order brides and at least 4 old retired farmers who moved in the first female they could find who did dishes and sucked cock.

I thought about this for ~3 minutes and came up with at least 6 men who married the first vagina they could buy, I'm sure there are thousands more.

Dude, can you and me hang out sometime?

Molitoth 11-28-2012 09:17 AM

One of my good friends has just gone trans this past year. It's been a trip watching him change over, and it's still hard to adjust to seeing sometimes. He's made some very stupid decisions... He lost his wife, his good job, his savings, his assets, and the majority of his friends. After hearing the emotional and physical abuse he has dealt with by his Jehovah Witness parents among other things, I really cannot judge him/her and fully support his decision to become what he has always felt inside. The thing is, just because he feels that he should've always been a female, does not change the way he has always cared for and been there for everyone else in his life. It's been sad watching a person that has been so giving, get rejected by everyone he's given to.

Here is a big fuck you to all of you motherfuckers who are all high and mighty.
Take a look in the mirror and judge yourself because you never know what's going on in the heart and soul of those whom surround you, even your closest friends.

Saul Good 11-28-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158063)
No one marries a woman just because she's a woman. There are other factors involved.

At first, this statement seemed like it was obviously true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 9158487)
This is bullshit.

I know of three older men who imported mail order brides and at least 4 old retired farmers who moved in the first female they could find who did dishes and sucked cock.

I thought about this for ~3 minutes and came up with at least 6 men who married the first vagina they could buy, I'm sure there are thousands more.

Sadly, though, he's absolutely right. I've met plenty of people who were either too lazy, too apathetic, lived somewhere with almost no options, or were just so completely undesirable that they had to settle for any female they could get.

TeaQue 11-28-2012 10:19 AM

That is insane

LOCOChief 11-28-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158063)
No one marries a woman just because she's a woman. There are other factors involved.

But for most guys the "woman" part is a prerequisite. It's funny that you don't understand this and by funny I mean ****ing weird.

journeyscarab 11-28-2012 11:17 AM

No pictures?

Donger 11-28-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9158909)
Here is a big **** you to all of you mother****ers who are all high and mighty.
Take a look in the mirror and judge yourself because you never know what's going on in the heart and soul of those whom surround you, even your closest friends.

To whom are you referring?

Donger 11-28-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9158157)
Of course it is.

If you're using "based on deception" to mean "began with deception" then I'd have to agree.

If you're using "based on deception" to mean "the majority of the relationship is grounded in deception" then I'd disagree. The majority of their presumably happily-married time together is based on so many other factors: their compatibility, their romantic moments, their legitimate enjoyment of each other, etc.

I think it's more accurate to state "began and continued with deception."

Raiderhater 11-28-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9156881)
It's just a poorly written sentence. They probably cut out some dangling participles or something.


I see what you did here.

Raiderhater 11-28-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Literature (Post 9157456)
It wasn't funny.


I chuckled.

unlurking 11-28-2012 11:58 AM

I find it funny how angry some posters are getting over this. Let's all just go back to puns about genocide or child rape victims, these poor (pick your bell end, err, I mean sexual gender/preference outlier of the week) should be protected and not made fun of like every other poor SOB that the CP collective discovers online.

BoneKrusher 11-28-2012 12:05 PM

it seems there should have been a clue or three over the 19 year span.

tooge 11-28-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9157397)
It should be annulled because he's a total asshole. It's obvious that he doesn't love his spouse. I would like to think that a rational, decent person who has been in love with someone for nearly 2 decades would not suddenly fall out of love with that person because of a thing in the past that has had zero bearing on the relationship.

If you found out your wife once had nuts, you might feel differently. I would

bevischief 11-28-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9159223)
it seems there should have been a clue or three over the 19 year span.

Yes...

bevischief 11-28-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9159200)
I find it funny how angry some posters are getting over this. Let's all just go back to puns about genocide or child rape victims, these poor (pick your bell end, err, I mean sexual gender/preference outlier of the week) should be protected and not made fun of like every other poor SOB that the CP collective discovers online.

It's the off season since the season is over...

Molitoth 11-28-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9159095)
To whom are you referring?

Hell, I don't know... I was just ranting. :p

unlurking 11-28-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9159248)
It's the off season since the season is over...

We had a season?

:)

HolyHat 11-28-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9159223)
it seems there should have been a clue or three over the 19 year span.

What he said
:LOL:

Frosty 11-28-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9159488)
We had a season?

:)

Yup. In between the last preseason game and halftime of the Atlanta game.

Did you blink?

Reaper16 11-28-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9159232)
If you found out your wife once had nuts, you might feel differently. I would

I really like to think that I wouldn't. I can't know for sure, but I think I would not immediately freak out.

Radar Chief 11-28-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9159488)
We had a season?

:)

I remember it starting but the rest was just a blur of turnovers and ass kickings.

unlurking 11-28-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9159493)
Yup. In between the last preseason game and halftime of the Atlanta game.

Did you blink?

I just assumed that since we were still losing it must be preseason and didn't matter. I mean seriously, hockey season hasn't even started yet!

GoHuge 11-28-2012 02:12 PM

Have never seen the end result of a surgical procedure where the penis is removed and then had a vag installed, but there has got to be some signs that point towards everything not being quite right. Maybe not though? You'd think after 19 years he would have had to have noticed something. C'mon man!!

Frosty 11-28-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHuge (Post 9159588)
Have never seen the end result of a surgical procedure where the penis is removed and then had a vag installed, but there has got to be some signs that point towards everything not being quite right. Maybe not though? You'd think after 19 years he would have had to have noticed something. C'mon man!!

*really hoping someone doesn't post pictures*


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