The chase for the #1 overall pick
 

First off, no this isn't intended to be a kick to the nuts... I read the other article that was posted and when looking at the 2, 3 and 4 win teams with 4 games to go - things could get interested if KC and/or JAX decide to win 2 of 4.

KC is set up well with 3 of 4 road games. Jags have a mixed schedule.
Eagles, Raiders and Panthers... they're only 1 game out and anything happens if KC or JAX wins 2.

Browns, Cards and Lions all have interesting matchups as well that (depending on how the tiebreakers work out), maybe they're all in the mix as well.

It's going to be a nail biting 4 weeks for those hoping to get the #1 pick. (ok, that last part was a kick in the nuts)

KC (2-10)
@ Browns
@ Raiders
Colts
@ Broncos

Jags (2-10)
Jets
@ Dolphins
Patriots
@ Titans

Eagles (3-9)
@ Bucs
Bengals
Redskins
@ Giants

Raiders (3-9)
Broncos
Chiefs
@ Panthers
@ Chargers

Panthers (3-9)
Falcons
@ Chargers
Raiders
@ Saints

Browns (4-8)
Chiefs
Redskins
@ Broncos
@ Steelers

Cardinals (4-8)
@ Seahawks
Lions
Bears
@ 49ers

Titans (4-8)
@ Colts
Jets
@ Packers
Jags

Lions (4-8)
@ Packers
@ Cardinals
Falcons
Bears

Chargers (4-8)
@ Steelers
Panthers
@ Jets
Raiders

Geno Smith or bust

The Cardinals quickly went south after their 4-0 start. And, looking at that list - yes, Denver needs to finish strong because the other 3 teams are all in contention for the #1 pick, so that's not a ringing endorsement by any means for the division.

Something tells me the Raiders will sneak ahead of us.

Quinn will finally show his god given talent . We end up 5-11

My gut tells me the Chiefs win 1 more game.

I just have this nagging feeling that the Raiders are going to get it and we're gonna pick 3rd or 4th. :(

And that would be the most undeserving kick to the nuts for any fanbase.

I think the Eagles get it. No way they win a game with that remaining schedule.

Hopefully the Chiefs go back to sucking for the rest of the year.

we are going to beat the browns and raiders and go 4-12 and get the #5 pick or some shit, drafting some lineman and live in misery forever.

Eagles, Cardinals, Lions, Browns and then Chiefs is how I'd rank the top toughest remaining schedules.

The Chiefs will somehow fuck this up and we will not get Geno. =/

If Jax gets MJD back in the next couple of weeks they’ll win another game or two.
I hope.

If we tie with the Raiders.....who wins the tie breaker?

They beat us once. If they beat us twice, but we win 2 more games, it is definitely them. If we split, I think it is us because we had the last place schedule.

I don't know any of that for sure, but that's how I see it.

Someway, somehow they will. It's their nature. :spock:

Our biggest competition is going to be Oakland and Philly.

Our rush _efense gives up almost 5ypc (4.7)
The only thing that could possibly stop Richardson is if he trips himself on his boner to see these guys coming to town

This.

Plus their defense is actually playing pretty well.

Eagles.

I've got a bad feeling, that we're going to end the year on a winning streak and pick in the 5 range. Hello Manti Te'o.

Worst possible outcome...

Goddamn do we ever need to lose on Sunday. This is depressing.

The talent at 10 is just as good as the talent at 1. they aren't that far apart...so WTF does it really matter?

This.

Yeah, I'm kinda thinking that if things roll a certain way - if you're picking at #3-5, maybe you have better chances of trading down and staying within the top 12 in R1, but getting another R2. You could still likely get one of the top QBs.

Unless you just have major wood for Geno... this could be a good thing.

Yep. I have the exact same feeling.

We're the Chiefs. It's what we do.

If the talent is really 'just the same' then why would anybody want to trade up?

good

Pretty sure it will be the Raiders. Look at their remaining schedule, it's pathetic and I don't see them beating anyone but the Chiefs. Their sos will be low. And it's currently weaker than ours without even accounting for their remaining schedule. I think it's like .490 right now and ours is in the low 500s.

That game against the Raiders will be the most important Chief game in a LONG time.

Guess it would just depend on needs and the players sitting there.

It's not so much that it's necessary that they have the 1st pick. It's their evaluation of their picks that bother me. Their picking the wrong guys. The scouting under Pioli has been absolute shit. Someone should of been shit canned years ago. Hell they would of never took a guy like Kapernick probably because he has too many tattoos. :spock:

I can't really fault them for that. I wouldn't have taken Kapernick, either, not in the range we're talking about.

Drafts are funny though, especially when you look at the top of the draft... hell, the rookie cap makes things much easier for teams. And, if you have a big need at a given position (say QB) and you take him 10-12 spots higher than the experts project, so be it. If that's your need - go fill it.

He was taken late in the 2nd rnd last year. They knew then we needed a QB. Who did we take in the 2nd that's even seeing the field?

The next two weeks loom large for us.

This really easy to calculate for two teams in the same division since their schedules are near identical.

Difference 1. Chiefs play the Raiders while the Raiders play the Chiefs. But we don't care about the tiebreaker unless the have identical records. These cancel out.

Diffence 2. AFC east opponents. We play the Bills while the
Raiders play Miami. Small difference by the end of the season.

Difference 3. AFC South opponents. We play the Colts while the Raiders play Jacksonville. The Colts are going to have a much stronger record than Jax by the end of the season. This difference will be decisive.

We will have the stronger SOS and will draft after the Raiders if we are tied.

The thought of Geno Smith in silver and black makes me sick.

We need to lose these next two games really badly.

It's just as good until Geno and Wilson are both gone.

Then it goes back to Aaron Murray and Matt Barkley.

No me gusta

KC (2-10) - (2-3 WINS)
LOSS @ Browns
50/50 @ Raiders
LOSS VS Colts
LOSS @ Broncos

Jags (2-10) - (2-5 WINS)
50/50 VS Jets
50/50 @ Dolphins
LOSS VS Patriots
50/50 @ Titans

Eagles (3-9) - (3-4 WINS)
50/50 @ Bucs
LOSS VS Bengals
LOSS VS Redskins
LOSS @ Giants

Raiders (3-9) - (3-6 WINS)
LOSS VS Broncos
50/50 VS Chiefs
50/50 @ Panthers
50/50 @ Chargers

Panthers (3-9) - (3-5 WINS, ALTHOUGH I DONT THINK THEY'RE A THREAT)
LOSS @ Falcons
50/50 @ Chargers
50/50 VS Raiders
LOSS @ Saints

Browns (4-8) - (4-6 WINS)
50/50 VS Chiefs
LOSS VS Redskins
LOSS @ Broncos
50/50 (DEPENDING ON BIG BEN) @ Steelers

Cardinals (4-8) - (4 WINS)
LOSS @ Seahawks
LOSS Lions
LOSS Bears
LOSS @ 49ers

Titans (4-8) - (5-6 WINS)
LOSS @ Colts
WIN VS Jets
LOSS @ Packers
50/50 VS Jags

Lions (4-8) - (5 WINS, BUT AGAIN NOT A THREAT AS FAR AS GETTING GENO GOES)
LOSS @ Packers
WIN @ Cardinals
LOSS VS Falcons
LOSS VS Bears

Chargers (4-8) - (4-7 WINS)
LOSS @ Steelers
50/50 VS Panthers
50/50 @ Jets
50/50 Raiders

Current 2013 NFL Draft order – 12/3/12

With just four weeks to go in the 2012 NFL season, it’s likely going to go down to the last week of the season to see who will own the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. The current draft order is below along with the tiebreaker, which is opponent’s win/loss record:

1. Kansas City – 2-10 (.505)
2. Jacksonville – 2-10 (.552)
3. Oakland – 3-9 (.464)
4. Philadelphia – 3-9 (.510)
5. Carolina – 3-9 (.516)
6. San Diego – 4-8 (.484)
7. Cleveland – 4-8 (.516)
8. Tennessee – 4-8 (.536)
9. Arizona – 4-8 (.552)
10. Detroit – 4-8 (.563)
11. Buffalo – 5-7 (.490)
12. New Orleans – 5-7 (.503)
13. Miami – 5-7 (.510)
14. New York Jets – 5-7 (.516)
15. St. Louis – 5-6-1 (.526)
16. Tampa Bay – 6-6 (.466)
17. St. Louis (from Washington) – 6-6 (.497)
18. Dallas – 6-6 (.516)
19. Minnesota – 6-6 (.531)
20. Cincinnati – 7-5 (.453)
21. Pittsburgh – 7-5 (.464)
22. Seattle – 7-5 (.495)
23. New York Giants – 7-5 (.513)
24. Indianapolis – 8-4 (.469)
25. Chicago – 8-4 (.495)
26. Green Bay – 8-4 (.510)
27. San Francisco – 8-3-1 (.495)
28. Denver – 9-3 (.448)
29. Baltimore – 9-3 (.500)
30. New England – 9-3 (.510)
31. Atlanta – 11-1 (.396)
32. Houston – 11-1 (.500)

Damnit oakland!!

Holy snap..our entire division is drafting in the top ten as of today

...minus a certain division winning team, me thinks...

We want Geno, we can not win another game.

Jacksonville will not win another game this year!

That may be a bit premature, They could compete against the Jets, Dolphins and Titans.

We will draft before Jacksonville...thats not my worry.

That game against Oakland is gonna be for the top pick.

Jets are due to break out, Miami & Tenn. is on the road.

If they win, it will be the Jets home game.

We will screw it up and win 2 more games.

^

The Eagles actually have a pretty good shot at it.

When the Browns roll us this weekend while the Jags beat down McElroy and the Jets....the optimism will be back.

A likely scenario

I'm not worried about that.

It's the 2nd straight road game in a 2-game road trip.

We'll get crushed. Especially against a team that has owned us for four seasons, barring Kyle Boller starts.

I voted before looking at the Eagles schedule. Yikes.

we are finishing 4-12

Not for me.

I won't have optimism until we lose to the Raiders in 2 weeks. If we win then I believe we're screwed.

I believe we still end up with the top pick and grab Geno but there are even some scenarios where we don't get the #1 pick but still end up with him. I don't think we need to panic.

Not only that but it won't be the end of the world if we grab a stud defender with our first and grab a qb with our second. Check out whats going on in seattle right now. For the record though i'd prefer we went Geno/Austin/Amerson and yeah we'd probably have to trade up at some point to make that all happen.

This would help.

The Chiefs schedule is too easy. I can see them beating Cle, Oak, and even Indy. And who knows about the Denver game, we might not have anything to play for.

Christ, do people realize how close we came to losing to the Panthers. Basically an easy dropped TD pass by LaFelle (sp?). Consider all the injuries in the secondary right now too. Not expecting Brady Quinn to play up to that level every week. Do we even face a defense as bad as Carolina's the rest of the season? I'm thinking we have a shot to beat the Raiders but the rest of the games are likely losses.

Sadly, it is looking most likely that we will get the #3 pick. The Jags have only one winnable game (Jets), which leaves them at 3-13. The Raiders might beat the Chiefs or Panthers, but their team is a bigger mess than ours. If they lose to the Chiefs at home, they are in the driver's seat.

Sadly, we have a chance to beat both the Browns and the Raiders. I think we probably beat the Raiders and have to hope that the Jags and Raiders find a win somewhere.

I think you're right.

Oakland's defense is worse than Carolina's.

Hello Manti Te'o.....

:deevee:

Eagles get my vote! Andy Reid announced that Nick Foles will start the remainder of the season, and he sucks! Reid said that it is the right decision given the position of the team at this point in the season. Translation: The Eagles have committed to tanking!

Division games like the series between the Raiders in Chiefs in recent years are ALWAYS a crapshoot. A team's performance during the season almost always has zero affect on that game's outcome.

Jaguars have several winnable games. Jets, Tits, and Dolphins are all possible wins.

They're just as probable as the Chiefs beating the Raiders (again, I repeat myself, this is a DIVISION GAME, where both teams usually suck themselves to death) or the Browns (who are a bad team but are playing better as of late just like us, and will also be getting us in the second week of a two-game road trip).

The Colts and Donks games are near unwinnable as long as both teams are fighting for playoff seeding, which I think is likely for both.

Foles isn't that bad really. I think they actually pull out a game or two.

Foles doesn't suck but the Eagles' defense sure does.

I think all the #1 contenders have a few winnable games. Considering how each teams season has gone, tough to know what is going to happen.

basically been saying this for weeks


people saying we wouldn't win another game simply don't understand how much the football universe hates us.

No, Foles sucks. Kevin Kolb was a more talented QB.

Eagles will need a new guy.

eagles will be in a position to get a guy

they are also quietly vying for the #1 spot :cuss:

All the 4 win teams are basically out.

If the Chiefs lose to the Faiders then Oakland is basically out.

Chiefs,Jags,Philly .... with Chiefs controlling their own destiny

I think every team has 2 winnable games on their schedule. I would hate for the Raiders to get the first pick again, unless its a bust.

Looks like Raiders have 3 winnable games (counting Chiefs)
Jags have 1 winnable game
Chiefs have 2 winnable games (counting Raiders)

I would say odds are Jags.

You don't think the Jags could beat the Jets or Dolphins? Did you see their game Sunday?

The nfl would live to have Geno in Philadelphia. Geno vs RG3 2x a year

I don't know. They host the 5-7 Jets who've lost 3 of 5, go to 5-7 Miami who's lost 4 of 5, host the Patriots who will probably cream them and then have the return game in Tennessee, who they beat a couple weeks ago. That looks to me like 3 potentially winnable games.

Yep, and the NFL finds ways to get what they want, like Eli in New York, and Mark Sanchez (the new latino face of the NFL, they hoped - my theory...) there as well.

OOOOORRRRR

They could pimp Geno to the Chiefs and set up a Geno Chiefs RGIII Redskins SUPER BOWL...



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