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Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 01:10 PM

Who is comeback player of the year
 
Going into today...

Adrian Peterson... 265 attempts, 1,600 yards, 10 touchdowns
*He has another long td run today already

Peyton Manning... 104 QB rating, 3,812 yards, 30 touchdown passes

Ace Gunner 12-16-2012 01:11 PM

do you really need to ask?

sincerly,

Peyton

Mr_Tomahawk 12-16-2012 01:11 PM

AP

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2012 01:12 PM

Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

Shogun 12-16-2012 01:13 PM

All day

milkman 12-16-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9212775)
Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

I think Peterson should win the MVP, but Manning will.

They'll give AP the Comeback player award as a consolation prize.

Deberg_1990 12-16-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9212775)
Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

This. Plays a much more bruising and physical position.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9212783)
I think Peterson should win the MVP, but Manning will.

They'll give AP the Comeback player award as a consolation prize.

Seems like a likey scenario.

ChiliConCarnage 12-16-2012 01:17 PM

AP. Mannings having a great year but AP might have a historic season and he's doing it even though their passing offense has gone into the tank.

Molitoth 12-16-2012 01:19 PM

I'll give comeback player of the year to AP.
Manning gets my MVP. There is NO WAY the RB position is MORE valuable than the QB position. AP won't even get his team into the playoffs... whereas Manning may take a mediocre Broncos team deep into the playoffs if not the superbowl.

kcxiv 12-16-2012 01:20 PM

They should both win it co winners if thats possible. They are both playing ****ing great. Its a toss up honestly

lewdog 12-16-2012 01:21 PM

AP. no doubt. He didn't have some little neck injury, he ****ing blew out his knee.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9212828)
They should both win it co winners if thats possible. They are both playing ****ing great. Its a toss up honestly

That's pretty much how I feel. I vote AP though officially.

Ace Gunner 12-16-2012 01:23 PM

"AP should" ???? **** that with a big chocolaty Jamaal Charles dick.

milkman 12-16-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9212816)
I'll give comeback player of the year to AP.
Manning gets my MVP. There is NO WAY the RB position is MORE valuable than the QB position. AP won't even get his team into the playoffs... whereas Manning may take a mediocre Broncos team deep into the playoffs if not the superbowl.

That "mediocre" Bronco team won 8 games with Tim TeBow at QB.

Their defense came on in the middle of the season last year, and have only improved, and their receivers have some talent.

Manning is tapping into that talent, and the defense gets a chance to really play to their strength.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-16-2012 01:27 PM

AP blew out his ACL DEC 24th...has a RB ever returned from an ACL injury that quickly and followed it up with a season such as his...?

Nobody knows how bad Peyton's neck was but Peyton. He has had a season much better than expected...but what AP has done in less than a year is almost sickening.

FlaChief58 12-16-2012 01:27 PM

Peyton Manning although it could go either way

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 9212847)
"AP should" ???? **** that with a big chocolaty Jamaal Charles dick.

240 attempts, 1220 yards, 4 touchdowns. Great to have him back but he's not AP. Team MVP though... since there's so much competition for that.

Easy 6 12-16-2012 01:28 PM

No Jamaal Charles option?

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9212868)
No Jamaal Charles option?

No, because he's not in the same company as those two... and I didn't feel the need to skew voting with a homer option. JC has no shot. See post #18.

1ChiefsDan 12-16-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9212775)
Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

This. I ****ing hate the forehead, but the NFL slobbers all over that family.:banghead:

Easy 6 12-16-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9212874)
No, because he's not in the same company as those two... and I didn't feel the need to skew voting with a homer option. JC has no shot. See post #18.

I can see how that would skew the poll, but disagree that he's not in the same company.

POLL FAIL! :)

lewdog 12-16-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9212860)
AP blew out his ACL DEC 24th...has a RB ever returned from an ACL injury that quickly and followed it up with a season such as his...?

Nobody knows how bad Peyton's neck was but Peyton. He has had a season much better than expected...but what AP has done in less than a year is almost sickening.

This and completely this. Hasn't even been a year. That was an incredibly quick recovery to be dominating like he is.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan (Post 9212879)
This. I ****ing hate the forehead, but the NFL slobbers all over that family.:banghead:

That's because they're really good heh.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9212882)
I can see how that would skew the poll, but disagree that he's not in the same company.

POLL FAIL! :)

My wording may have been off but my meaning is he's not in AP's range stat wise this season. He's great no doubt. He'd probably have a good shot most years.

I did consider including Brady Quinn as a "Gaz" option but a bunch of numbnuts would vote for him... hence poll skewed. I'm actually interested in an honest vote heh.

Bump 12-16-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9212771)
AP

AD

Bump 12-16-2012 01:39 PM

Adrian Peterson might break that record. He's a ****ing beast, you could make arguments for either one but AD might do something Legendary.

Lumpy 12-16-2012 02:21 PM

AP > PM

Rain Man 12-16-2012 02:40 PM

I'm at the airport, and there's a guy at my gate wearing a brand new #58 Broncos jersey with the name "Manning" on the back. I'll try to get a picture, but he's facing me so I can't get the back.

Garcia Bronco 12-16-2012 02:45 PM

Manning. ACL injuries are no longer the career threatening injury the used to be. Manning is back from missing a year and with a completely different team. He was also cut by his previous team.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-16-2012 02:53 PM

Peterson has ran for more yards than Manning has thrown for today...

milkman 12-16-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9213177)
Manning. ACL injuries are no longer the career threatening injury the used to be. Manning is back from missing a year and with a completely different team. He was also cut by his previous team.

Homer alert!

hometeam 12-16-2012 02:55 PM

Peterson hands down

BigMeatballDave 12-16-2012 02:56 PM

AP because Peyton will likely get MVP

Rugby Thompson 12-16-2012 03:06 PM

it's AP.

close thread.

lewdog 12-16-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9213177)
Manning. ACL injuries are no longer the career threatening injury the used to be. Manning is back from missing a year and with a completely different team. He was also cut by his previous team.

Yea knee injuries to running backs don't mean shit anymore.

:facepalm:

Deberg_1990 12-16-2012 03:13 PM

Damn...less than 300 away from Dickersons record now.

mcaj22 12-16-2012 03:15 PM

if you need a refresher of how bad it was a year ago

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a lot of people well educated in the health field said that AP might not ever play again and if he did would never be the same.

and people just see the results a year later, but forget what kind of sacrifices this guy made, he spent an entire year/offseason doing what it took to end up where he is today

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_as...scaled_php.jpg

laying in bed on New Years Eve with a blown out leg being surgically repaired. The dude wasnt delaying surgery so he can party or hobbling around with a bum leg to go bowling or at the local Dave and Busters Andrew Bynum style.

He did what it took to get back, because he is paid as such and has earned everything. A real pro athlete.

Quesadilla Joe 12-16-2012 03:40 PM

I think Peyton Manning has came back from more but I'm going with Adrian Peterson because he is on pace to put up numbers that only a handful of people have done before.

I'd give Manning the MVP over Peterson though because he has helped his team win more games.

milkman 12-16-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9213518)
I think Peyton Manning has came back from more but I'm going with Adrian Peterson because he is on pace to put up numbers that only a handful of people have done before.

I'd give Manning the MVP over Peterson though because he has helped his team win more games.

One win against a team over .500.

Quesadilla Joe 12-16-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9213536)
One win against a team over .500.

We beat Atlanta and Houston if we played them tomorrow. NE is a tossup.

milkman 12-16-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9213574)
We beat Atlanta and Houston if we played them tomorrow. NE is a tossup.

LMAO

Shut the **** up dumbass.

NE is a tossup.

LMAO

Rams Fan 12-16-2012 03:47 PM

Thomas Davis.

Quesadilla Joe 12-16-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9213589)
LMAO

Shut the **** up dumbass.

NE is a tossup.

LMAO

We would be favored if they played us at Denver. They would be favored if we played in NE. It's a tossup.

Rams Fan 12-16-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9213574)
We beat Atlanta and Houston if we played them tomorrow. NE is a tossup.

Guess what?

You don't play them tomorrow.

rabblerouser 12-16-2012 03:49 PM

Jalil Brown, no question.

milkman 12-16-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9213595)
We would be favored if they played us at Denver. They would be favored if we played in NE. It's a tossup.

You, my friend, are a complete and utter moron.

Mama Hip Rockets 12-16-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9213298)

a lot of people well educated in the health field said that AP might not ever play again and if he did would never be the same.

and people just see the results a year later, but forget what kind of sacrifices this guy made, he spent an entire year/offseason doing what it took to end up where he is today

He did what it took to get back, because he is paid as such and has earned everything. A real pro athlete.

People said the exact same stuff about Manning, dude. Just about everybody thought he would only be a fraction of his former self if he could even play at all.

Quesadilla Joe 12-16-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9213619)
You, my friend, are a complete and utter moron.

And you are the biggest Peyton Manning basher on this forum.

mcaj22 12-16-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9213620)
People said the exact same stuff about Manning, dude. Just about everybody thought he would only be a fraction of his former self if he could even play at all.

no they said that he would be weak/out of shape. Every doctor in the world pretty much said him jamming stem cells into his neck would heal it. The part was he sat out the NFL for a year, and would need to play the neck back into strength.

He didnt rip his neck off and lay there on the field like AP did with his leg. His leg is ****ing backwards. Backwards. Like never play again backwards.

milkman 12-16-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9213656)
And you are the biggest Peyton Manning basher on this forum.

This has nothing to do with Manning bashing.

The Donkeys are probably the second best team in the AFC right now (debatable with Houston, since they can get after the QB and Manning has always struggled with 34 defenses that can pressure the QB and disrupt the timing of his offense), but they have achieved their record due to a soft schedule since the 6th game of the season.

AP has carried that Viking team, with no one respecting the pass in a passing league.

CrazyPhuD 12-16-2012 05:23 PM

Matt Cassel and it's not even close.

If he didn't comeback down to earth this year how many more years would we have had to put up with his mediocrity?

Mr_Tomahawk 12-16-2012 05:37 PM

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From @RLiuNFL Adrian Peterson’s 1,313 rush yards are most in @nfl history over 8 game span in single season. #MVPeterson

Thig Lyfe 12-16-2012 05:38 PM

No Cassel option?

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9214847)
No Cassel option?

I'd think you could be happy for Peyton Manning. Theresh just no pleashing you.

Planetman 12-16-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9213518)
I'd give Manning the MVP over Peterson though because he has helped his team win more games.

Even though he really hasn't beaten any teams worth a shit until today.

Hootie 12-16-2012 08:22 PM

wait, what?

How would AP win comeback player of the year?

He played in every game last year. He was injured in the final game.

I don't think he fits this criteria.

Hootie 12-16-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9213656)
And you are the biggest Peyton Manning basher on this forum.

That's true.

Sorry Milkman, but you are. Your hate for Manning often clouds your judgment when debating Manning.

milkman 12-16-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9216044)
That's true.

Sorry Milkman, but you are. Your hate for Manning often clouds your judgment when debating Manning.

This is something you've never understood.

I like the guy a lot.

I think he's a helluva regular season QB, and is someone who would probably enjoy having a beer with.

I also know he's the greatest playoff choker among the all time great QBs.

Hootie 12-16-2012 08:29 PM

Fair enough.

I'll just agree to disagree. Now, Brady is kind of a victim of circumstance but the records show...he hasn't won anything since spygate (2004).

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9216036)
wait, what?

How would AP win comeback player of the year?

He played in every game last year. He was injured in the final game.

I don't think he fits this criteria.

That's actually a really good point.

milkman 12-16-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9216070)
Fair enough.

I'll just agree to disagree. Now, Brady is kind of a victim of circumstance but the records show...he hasn't won anything since spygate (2004).

And I'd agree with the point you are alluding to here.

confused 12-16-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9213619)
You, my friend, are a complete and utter moron.

Dear Lord, save the shtick Nancy.

milkman 12-16-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9216072)
That's actually a really good point.

It's really easy.

These hacks can make up any criteria they want to justify the pick, and they will, as they always do.

milkman 12-16-2012 08:34 PM

Oh, I have a new stalker.

Yay, me.

confused 12-16-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9216090)
Oh, I have a new stalker.

Yay, me.

If by skimming threads and consistently finding you with diaper rash, then yep. Chalk me up as a modern day John Hinckley.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-16-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9216036)
wait, what?

How would AP win comeback player of the year?

He played in every game last year. He was injured in the final game.

I don't think he fits this criteria.

He came back from serious injury... one that some thought might end his career... to have the season he's having. It's not the ****ing tough.

Garcia Bronco 12-16-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9213269)
Yea knee injuries to running backs don't mean shit anymore.

:facepalm:

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Thig Lyfe 12-16-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9215449)
I'd think you could be happy for Peyton Manning. Theresh just no pleashing you.

Maybe if these chumps had listened to me and signed Manning, I'd be happy.

Mile High Mania 12-16-2012 09:57 PM

Hard to argue about either of them winning it, both are very deserving.

Demonpenz 12-16-2012 11:48 PM

AD is having an awesome year, but Running backs don't mean shit that much anymore.

clyde05 12-17-2012 02:26 AM

AP had 970 yards and 12 tds before he got hurt last year, those are pretty good numbers that he is going to get ready to shatter, that being said my vote goes to Peyton because AP did have good year last year, he just worked his ass off in rehab.

Hootie 12-17-2012 02:34 AM

I'm not bashing Peterson, I just don't think he fits the criteria for the award.

I think it has to go to Peyton, but Jamaal Charles should probably finish 2nd.

AussieChiefsFan 12-17-2012 02:43 AM

AP, he'll get Comback player. MVP will probably go to Peyton.

Sorter 12-17-2012 02:45 AM

I think both are deserving of both awards. I'd probably give Peyton Comeback Award as he was out a full season. AP is carrying a horrific team that is currently the 6th seed in the NFC IIRC. How that is possible with the abortion of QB and secondary play that team has, I have no idea.

clyde05 12-17-2012 02:45 AM

Peyton deserves both awards

Hootie 12-17-2012 02:47 AM

not sure how you could give Peyton MVP and not Brady...maybe it's time to bust out the ol' CO-MVP for this year

clyde05 12-17-2012 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9217303)
I think both are deserving of both awards. I'd probably give Peyton Comeback Award as he was out a full season. AP is carrying a horrific team that is currently the 6th seed in the NFC IIRC. How that is possible with the abortion of QB and secondary play that team has, I have no idea.

This, if Vikings make playoffs

Hootie 12-17-2012 02:48 AM

in fact, for once, I'd probably just give the MVP to Adrian Peterson.

QB's throwing 40 TD's and 5000 yards is something we are seeing every year now. It's just another season for those two.

This Adrian guy...oh my lord. I'd definitely not bitch about him being MVP. He deserves it.

AussieChiefsFan 12-17-2012 02:48 AM

IMO AP deserves the combeack award. ACL + MCL late last season. Is back for week 1 and then has the season he has had, incredible.


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