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Dante84 12-31-2012 12:15 PM

Who is your #1 HC choice? Who would you be happy to have??
 
We like to bitch and moan about everything from hot chicks being too fat, to fat chicks being too hot.

What I would like to know, is who is your #1 choice for HC, that you would be happy about? Not pissed about, not "meh'd" about.

Who gets your pants tight?

HolyHat 12-31-2012 12:18 PM

Bill Cowher

Marco Polo 12-31-2012 12:19 PM

1. Chip Kelly.
2. Anyone not from the Patriot Tree.

doomy3 12-31-2012 12:19 PM

I'M NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH ANYONE!!

I hope I'm wrong though, I'd be glad to eat crow.

Strongside 12-31-2012 12:20 PM

Chip Kelly.

doomy3 12-31-2012 12:20 PM

Really, Cowher would be my choice right now.

notorious 12-31-2012 12:20 PM

Belichick.

Imon Yourside 12-31-2012 12:20 PM

Chip Kelly.

Crush 12-31-2012 12:20 PM

Chip Kelly

Imon Yourside 12-31-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9258944)
Belichick.

Ya but seriously?

CaliforniaChief 12-31-2012 12:23 PM

#1 choice right now is Chip Kelly.

Would be happy with:
Cowher, Gruden, Brian Kelly, David Shaw, intrigued by Andy Reid.

notorious 12-31-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9258947)
Ya but seriously?

:D

In58men 12-31-2012 12:25 PM

Kelly, Cowher or Gruden.

bevischief 12-31-2012 12:26 PM

Pee We Herman

Fat Elvis 12-31-2012 12:26 PM

1. Chip Kelly
meh: Cowher, Kyle Shannahan, Gruden

Carter 12-31-2012 12:26 PM

Gruden

jd1020 12-31-2012 12:26 PM

Todd Haley is looking.

zimdogg 12-31-2012 12:27 PM

Not Kirk Ferentz.

big nasty kcnut 12-31-2012 12:28 PM

Any coach that can draft smith because we need a mobile qb with a set skills.

HolyHat 12-31-2012 12:29 PM

I really like Chip Kelly though. I'm sure everyone remembers this story about him...

Kelly gained national acclaim for responding to a season ticket holder's letter demanding a refund for his expenses after traveling to see Oregon's 19–8 loss to Boise State, which ended with Ducks running back LeGarrette Blount responding to a Bronco player's taunts by punching him in the face. Kelly replied to the man with a personal check written out for his travel costs (exactly $439): in response, the fan wrote him a thank-you note enclosing the original check, which he did not cash and made copies to frame

AdumbGuy 12-31-2012 12:29 PM

Sean Payton.

Don't want Cowher. Was in pittsburgh during the kordell stewart years and he kept insisting kordell could be a starting QB. And then when I heard his "Casshole wasn't the problem comments," that sealed it.

chiefzilla1501 12-31-2012 12:30 PM

Chip Kelly
Either gruden
Gus Bradley
Not opposed to 49ers staff, like Greg roman, but ONLY if we are fully confident they can succeed without harbaugh

Setsuna 12-31-2012 12:30 PM

For the Jag? Todd Haley and no one else.

Dayze 12-31-2012 12:31 PM

Sean Payton

doomy3 12-31-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdumbGuy (Post 9259033)
Sean Payton.

Don't want Cowher. Was in pittsburgh during the kordell stewart years and he kept insisting kordell could be a starting QB. And then when I heard his "Casshole wasn't the problem comments," that sealed it.

Uh, yeah.

ROFL

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 12:31 PM

Im on board with Chip Kelly. They say he's incredibly smart, intuitive, organized and runs a tight ship.

What else do you want in a HC?

CoMoChief 12-31-2012 12:32 PM

Chip Kelly

Mr. Arrowhead 12-31-2012 12:32 PM

My top 3 are:
Chip Kelly
Andy Reid
Bruce Arians

mcaj22 12-31-2012 12:32 PM

you people wanting Chip Kelly are being way too picky and need to come back to reality real quick

As much as I want him too, that dude has his PICK right now to go anywhere he would want. And really, teams will offer him full control and whatever he wants, we have our heads stuck up Scott Pioli's ass

and essentially Chip Kelly is Peyton Manning all over again. If he snubs us, we will never know why, but assume Scott Pioli

Dayze 12-31-2012 12:33 PM

NM on Payton; didn't realize he signed an extension a few days ago. I thought his contract was voided etc

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259060)
you people wanting Chip Kelly are being way too picky and need to come back to reality real quick

As much as I want him too, that dude has his PICK right now to go anywhere he would want. And really, teams will offer him full control and whatever he wants, we have our heads stuck up Scott Pioli's ass

and essentially Chip Kelly is Peyton Manning all over again. If he snubs us, we will never know why, but assume Scott Pioli

This is a thread about who you want, not who you think we will get.

mcan 12-31-2012 12:35 PM

Nobody will agree, but I still want, and HAVE wanted for quite some time now...


Al Saunders.


Flame away.

J Diddy 12-31-2012 12:35 PM

The more I read about Kelly, the more I like. I don't want an old time coach brought back for a couple of years.

HolyHat 12-31-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259060)
you people wanting Chip Kelly are being way too picky and need to come back to reality real quick

As much as I want him too, that dude has his PICK right now to go anywhere he would want. And really, teams will offer him full control and whatever he wants, we have our heads stuck up Scott Pioli's ass

and essentially Chip Kelly is Peyton Manning all over again. If he snubs us, we will never know why, but assume Scott Pioli

Chip has made it clear that he wants total control, so if Clark gets Kelly that means Peehole hits the streets.

Dayze 12-31-2012 12:36 PM

as far as 'want'...I'd want Kelly.

Saban is under contract through 2020 I 'think'.

Imon Yourside 12-31-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcan (Post 9259075)
Nobody will agree, but I still want, and HAVE wanted for quite some time now...


Al Saunders.


Flame away.

I love the guy too, but NO this just isn't the time for that.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2012 12:37 PM

I'd much rather have the right GM/Personnel guy.

Jesus Christ could be the HC - it won't mean much if the GM is bombing draft after draft.

HolyHat 12-31-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259060)
you people

What do you mean...you people? ROFL

ChiefsCountry 12-31-2012 12:39 PM

Russ Ball - GM
Bill Cowher - HC
Ken Whisenhunt - OC
Darren Perry - DC

mcan 12-31-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9259086)
I love the guy too, but NO this just isn't the time for that.

I think he'd be awesome, and if I'm right then it will ALWAYS be the right time. But quite frankly, nobody else agrees. Not sure why. Dude has his pulse on how to move the ball down the field and get his players where they need to be. Would love to see him take a young QB and turn him into a perfect offensive machine for 10+ years in KC. Then have him find the defensive mind that has always presented him with the biggest challenge and have them chess match every day in practice and win multiple championships.

A guy can dream. :)

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9259091)
I'd much rather have the right GM/Personnel guy.

Jesus Christ could be the HC - it won't mean much if the GM is bombing draft after draft.

Works both ways. Is Crennel not proof enough of that? He took a 7-9 team and turned them into a 2-14 team....a 2-14 team that arguably had more talent than the 7-9 team.

HC is extremely important.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9259104)
Russ Ball - GM
Bill Cowher - HC
Ken Whisenhunt - OC
Darren Perry - DC

Why would you want Ken Whisenhunt as OC? WTH has he ever done aside from ride the coattails of a HoF QB?

jd1020 12-31-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259142)
Works both ways. Is Crennel not proof enough of that? He took a 7-9 team and turned them into a 2-14 team....a 2-14 team that arguably had more talent than the 7-9 team.

HC is extremely important.

Meh.

Did Crennel do that or did the QB play do that?

Crennel was bad, no doubt, but seriously... Cassel was all time bad and Quinn was worse.

Canofbier 12-31-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259060)
you people wanting Chip Kelly are being way too picky and need to come back to reality real quick

As much as I want him too, that dude has his PICK right now to go anywhere he would want. And really, teams will offer him full control and whatever he wants, we have our heads stuck up Scott Pioli's ass

and essentially Chip Kelly is Peyton Manning all over again. If he snubs us, we will never know why, but assume Scott Pioli

Maybe this is the homer shades speaking, but KC is a relatively talented team that has something that no other team can offer - the number one pick and the ability to build around whatever QB he chooses. As an offensive guy, that HAS to appeal to him, right?

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259142)
Works both ways. Is Crennel not proof enough of that? He took a 7-9 team and turned them into a 2-14 team....a 2-14 team that arguably had more talent than the 7-9 team.

HC is extremely important.

If you look at who the 7-9 team beat, you'd realize they weren't that good either.

MahiMike 12-31-2012 12:49 PM

1. Chip Kelly
2. Andy Reid/Mike Holmgren
3. Some other college head coach

I'm tired of NFL retreads - especially the ones that have been behind the camera too long. Andy Reid or Mike Holmgren are the only NFL coaches I'd like because of their innovations on offense and their playoff experience.

Kelly is my #1 but I'd take a fresh college mind over something stale like Romeo and his lookalikes.

Chris Meck 12-31-2012 12:49 PM

If Clark's looking 'right away' at HC candidates, that precludes playoff coaches right? I mean, they're kind of busy.

So I think maybe it is Chip Kelly. I would like Kelly or JAY Gruden.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9259153)
Meh.

Did Crennel do that or did the QB play do that?

Crennel was bad, no doubt, but seriously... Cassel was all time bad and Quinn was worse.

Crennel is everyone's scapegoat.

Otherwise, people would have to admit this organization is more flawed than they want to believe.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 12:49 PM

that 7-9 team also had way better players

Brandon Carr
Leron McClain
Jackie Battle
Steve Breaston
Kyle Orton
Wallace Gilberry
Jon McGraw
etc etc etc

O.city 12-31-2012 12:50 PM

On board for Brian Daboll.


He's served his time and shown that he knows whats what in the NFL.

jd1020 12-31-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259194)
that 7-9 team also had way better players

Brandon Carr
Steve Breaston
Kyle Orton
Wallace Gilberry
etc etc etc

Fixed.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9259203)
Fixed.

even those crappier players I listed are WAY better contributers than the turd piles we played out there this season

Ill take McGraw, Battle, McClain over scrubs like Abe Elam and Peyton Hillis and no FB for 3/4s of the year any season

jd1020 12-31-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259220)
even those crappier players I listed are WAY better contributers than the turd piles we played out there this season

Ill take McGraw, Battle, McClain over scrubs like Abe Elam and Peyton Hillis and no FB for 3/4s of the year any season

I'll take Berry over McGraw. And Battle and McClain are no better than anything.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9259225)
I'll take Berry over McGraw.

good thing that was Sabbys position and McGraw still would have been playing over Abe Elam. As we play three crappy safeties in this defense

its moot now but the point is that 7-9 had way better talent than this 2-14 team and it's not even close. Even the bad players on that 7-9 team are better than all the Pioli draft pick busts we trotted out there this season

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9259153)
Meh.

Did Crennel do that or did the QB play do that?

Crennel was bad, no doubt, but seriously... Cassel was all time bad and Quinn was worse.

I agree with that. But the Chiefs were bad in ALL Phases of the game for the majority of the season. That's on RaC.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259194)
that 7-9 team also had way better players

Brandon Carr
Leron McClain
Jackie Battle
Steve Breaston
Kyle Orton
Wallace Gilberry
Jon McGraw
etc etc etc

They had Brandon Carr. That's it. Jackie Battle? Are you ****ing with me? Jon McGraw?

JON MCGRAW?

GTFO.

chiefzilla1501 12-31-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9259193)
Crennel is everyone's scapegoat.

Otherwise, people would have to admit this organization is more flawed than they want to believe.

He's not a scapegoat. He was horrible and a big part of the problem. And yes, you can look back, I was one of the most critical about the stupidity of the hire as soon as it happened.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259268)
They had Brandon Carr. That's it. Jackie Battle? Are you ****ing with me? Jon McGraw?

JON MCGRAW?

GTFO.

you do realize that Abe Elam and Peyton Hillis were that bad this year

right

and that Kyle Orton was a massive upgrade at QB over the two they trotted out every Sunday

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9259193)
Crennel is everyone's scapegoat.

Otherwise, people would have to admit this organization is more flawed than they want to believe.

Crennel was shit. He wasn't a scapegoat. He was fired for turning a 7-9 team into a 2-14 team, that, like I said, arguably had MORE talent.

I don't care WHO they beat, the fact is, they BEAT them...W/o Jammal Charles. The 2012 team got blown out repeatedly WITH Charles. That's coaching.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259290)
you do realize that Abe Elam and Peyton Hillis were that bad this year

right

and that Kyle Orton was a massive upgrade at QB over the two they trotted out every Sunday

Just because Peyton Hillis was bad doesn't mean Jackie ****ing Battle was worth a shit in 2011.

And the Chiefs had won 5 games BEFORE they trotted out Orton.

You're arguing over wether or not Peyton Hillis is better than Jackie. They both sucked equally as hard and gave little contribution.

The difference between scrubs like Jackie Battle and Peyton Hillis, or McGraw vs Elam aren't enough to validate a 5 game swing.

KCFaninSEA 12-31-2012 01:05 PM

As HC I would be happy with either Reid, Kelly or Cowher. I think a fresh start and new organization will do wonders to re energize Andy Reid.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9259325)
Just because Peyton Hillis was bad doesn't mean Jackie ****ing Battle was worth a shit in 2011.

And the Chiefs had won 5 games BEFORE they trotted out Orton.

You're arguing over wether or not Peyton Hillis is better than Jackie. They both sucked equally as hard and gave little contribution.

The difference between scrubs like Jackie Battle and Peyton Hillis, or McGraw vs Elam aren't enough to validate a 5 game swing.

but it doesnt matter that they didnt have Charles or a run game.

They had Bill ****ing Muir calling plays

and they had somewhat of a passing game. Steve Breaston caught 61 balls that year. Bowe caught 81.

That's enough of offensive output to win 7 games, with a defense led by Flowers, Carr, DJ, Hali having good years.


We didnt have a passing game this season, you can rush for 400 yards with Jamaal Charles and still lose. Daboll and Rac proved that. The talent was clearly better the prior year at the coaching and player evaluation level. Playing a guy like Steve Breaston over Jon Baldwin DOES IN FACT, HELP. Playing a guy like Wallace Gilberry over Allen Bailey DOES IN FACT HELP. Playing Jon McGraw over Abe Elam is a difference. Brandon Carr over Stanford Dishroutt and Jalil Brown


It's a massive drop off in talent, it's painfully obvious.

Psyko Tek 12-31-2012 01:12 PM

Chip?
I have a problem taking anybody named Chip, Chad, etc seriously

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9259355)
but it doesnt matter that they didnt have Charles or a run game.

They had Bill ****ing Muir calling plays

and they had somewhat of a passing game. Steve Breaston caught 61 balls that year. Bowe caught 81.

That's enough of offensive output to win 7 games, with a defense led by Flowers, Carr, DJ, Hali having good years.


We didnt have a passing game this season, you can rush for 400 yards with Jamaal Charles and still lose. Daboll and Rac proved that. The talent was clearly better the prior year at the coaching and player evaluation level. Playing a guy like Steve Breaston over Jon Baldwin DOES IN FACT, HELP. Playing a guy like Wallace Gilberry over Allen Bailey DOES IN FACT HELP. Playing Jon McGraw over Abe Elam is a difference. Brandon Carr over Stanford Dishroutt and Jalil Brown


It's a massive drop off in talent, it's painfully obvious.

Right.....uhm....so what exactly are we arguing about? We both agree that the coaches this year did a far worse job than last year, correct?

The drop off from Carr to Routt etc was substantial, but the rest of these scrubs? No effin' way. Gilberry had how many sacks last season? you think there is a substantial difference between Abe Elam and Jon McGraw? Wow...talk about debating over two equally shitty players.

And then you don't take into consideration where the Chiefs were arguably better at from a talent perspective, like the O-Line or TE position.

Yes, Crennel was an awful HC. No, i don't think the 2011 Chiefs were a more talented team than the 2012 version, especially after getting Berry and Charles back. Even Berry on a down year was better than the shit we had last season.

That falls on the coaching staff.

RaC is not a scapegoat. He deserved to be fired.

tyton75 12-31-2012 01:32 PM

Kelly, Gruden, Cowher (no way in hell we get Cowher), Andy Reid, Whisenhunt, McDaniels.

Molitoth 12-31-2012 01:38 PM

Chip Kelly

MGRS13 12-31-2012 01:41 PM

1. Chip Kelly(Highest risk/reward)
2a. Jay Gruden(he will be a head coach next year and I think a good one)
2b. Ariens(however the hell you spell his name) Did a great job this year and deserves a shot at head coach.
3. Andy reid(If we get reid he has to come in a pacage deal with Geno smith. Smith would excell in Reids system IMO)

Stanley Nickels 12-31-2012 01:42 PM

*Puts on bulletproof helmet...*

Love Smith. I just think he's a very good coach who doesn't ever really have terrible seasons. He doesn't seem to meet expectations enough, but he's still a very smart, defensive-minded coach. Just make sure we get a competent OC

houstonwhodat 12-31-2012 01:43 PM

Gumby

cdcox 12-31-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9258944)
Belichick.

No retreads.

KCDC 12-31-2012 02:00 PM

Chip Kelly

Cmd'r&Chief 12-31-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9258925)
2. Anyone not from the Patriot Tree.

This

AirForceChief 12-31-2012 02:12 PM

Cower, L. Smith, Gruden.

Norv for O-Coord.

Simplicity 12-31-2012 02:18 PM

Cowher, Kelly, Reid, Lovie. In that order.

Cannibal 12-31-2012 02:41 PM

The more I hear/read of Chip Kelly, the more interested I get. It would be a bold move. I just hope a guy like that could command the respect of an entire NFL franchise. That's what this is going to take. He would have to show dramatic improvement right away, or the players would not buy into it.

DTHOF 12-31-2012 02:44 PM

Cowher

ChiliConCarnage 12-31-2012 02:45 PM

If I had my pick it'd probably be Reid for a variety of reasons but I think he'd be better served sitting a year.

BigMeatballDave 12-31-2012 03:22 PM

There isn't a single HC out there now that excites me.

ToxSocks 12-31-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirForceChief (Post 9259925)
Cower, L. Smith, Gruden.

Norv for O-Coord.

Hell Yeah.

The KC Fired Coaches Club.

DomerNKC 12-31-2012 03:36 PM

Andy Reid as Head Coach...Lovie Smith as Defensive Coordinator...Norv Turner as Offensive Coordinator. Dream Big.


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