Autopsy shows Belcher was drunk when he killed gf/himself
 

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/14/4010286/autopsy-belcher-was-drunk-when.html

That'll get him a suspension from the league office.

but he most definitely was not when those cops stopped him...

Good work, cops.

technically it IS possible to not be drunk after drinking heavily. there is a small window between ingesting and metabolizing the alcohol.

zing

Me thinks that small window is shut when the drunkard has passed out in the parking lot with the car running.

I would assume.

But, but, but cops would NEVER let a drunk guy go based on who they are....:harumph:

Holy ****. There's going to be some fallout over this one with those cops. They didn't test his BAC. Wow!

lol he had been passed out in the car for over an hour.

Hey, I want the cops to **** off and leave me alone when I'm drunk too.

It's just I don't get drunk and **** around on my girl, leaving my 3 month old daughter alone with my mom when I have to be at work at 9 in the morning.

Somewhere in that sequence...ol' Jovan's 'personal accountability meter' malfunctioned.

just playing Devil's Advocate, but he could have been drinking in the car too.

Who knows, who cares. He's dead.

And that, boys and girls, friends and neighbors...is no one's 'fault' but Jovan Belcher's.

Don't mean anything. He could have went into the gf's after, drank heavily, banged the **** out of her, then went home to have his babys mother sniff his junk.

Thats when the fight started. Happens all the time.

We should just give EVERY PERSON that gets pulled over a field sobriety test, whether they appear drunk or not.

Could save a life or two!

Hell yes we should if they are sleeping in a running car, a Bentley no less, in a part of town where that could get you killed...

Oh, so now we're PROFILING?

:hmmm:

cops found him at 2 am...then he shoots girlfriend at what...7 am? If he was that drunk when the cops roused him, I'd have to think they would have known it. Being at .17 5 hours after the cops got him means he had to be completely crocked when they had him. But, it's also believable that he got drunk again after the cops incident.

Too late. They do that already.

Just the facts, dear.

I don't care what color the person is. Only a drunk and/or crazy person would do that shit...

profiling is WRONG.

Sieg Heil, Comrade.

No one mentioned color.

Racist.

really, it's no big loss.

Hell, the kid probably has a chance at life now.

The only question I have is where is this said Bentley & where can I buy it?

I'll bet it's cheap.

why u cominn homee at 6 in da morningggg...lemmme smell yoooo dickkkk

Making more than you & me

Yup. I took advantage of that window all the time in college. Nail 4 shots, 10 minutes to the club, buzz upon entrance for free. High five!

How do you profile without color? :hmmm:

Hey do you think he got his name because he's always drunk and he belches a lot?

They call jews a race and they are white.

Right, so are Iranians. What is your point? It's still based on looks and that has to do with racial characteristics.

I'm goin to D.C., D.C.here I come...

ROFL

WINNING!!!!

Well no shit....he was passed out in the car when it was running in front of an ex gf's house.

translation

He was drunk.....wanted some ass......he was probably talking on the phone in his car making up a story to someone (possibly Perkins) and he passed out.

You said color

YOU mentioned it.

Someone said it was 'profiling'

You went :


YOU mentioned it.

No one mentioned anything about it until you did.

Sarcasm doesn't translate well to the internet...

But it's a pretty funny read from where I sit.

But you can profile without color : the car a person drives, their clothes, haircut, where they live, what music they listen to, who their parents are...hell, ANYTHING can be used for profiling purposes.

Profiling is profiling. If you are doing it on looks then you are factoring in a person's color and/or race.

Yes, but in this instance you have a young black man driving a car 99% of the public cannot afford. He's in an area that is high crime and he's parked in a running car.

Cops would have arrested a person probably 99.999% of the time in that case regardless of what they looked like. In this instance they did not because of who he was. You can bet as they were approaching the car, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW TAGS and not yet registered, they were not planning on just checking on driver and leaving the scene.

If they were convinced he wasn't impaired then why didn't they allow him to drive home?

YOU ARE A RACIST

JUST LIKE RANDY MARSH

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HE couldn't even afford that car - it was worth more than the house he was LEASING.

Sure, it was suspicious...but the fact is, if he wasn't driving and had not been witnessed driving intoxicated...then he didn't commit a crime and the police actually did the right thing by letting him go on about his business.

They had no idea he was going to do what he did, and his behavior around KCPD obviously did not warrant him being detained in any way.

You can't blame the cops - that's just stupid.

Probably because once he made contact with someone inside, they let him come in. That's what police are SUPPOSED to do - arrest someone as a LAST RESORT.

Dude went inside and, as for as KCPD was concerned, off 'the street' and not posing any imminent threat.

What Jovan Belcher did is on him and him ALONE.

No, I'm a realist. People make judgements based on what someone looks like. Everyone does. Some people are just better at lying about it.

Agreed, and my disdain for the cops inaction has less to do with what he would potentially do and more for the fact that he was treated differently because of what he does. Not even who he was. If anything, I hope it causes cops pause to take situations like this more seriously in the future. If they do their jobs then Belcher is embarrassed and possibly suspended. That doesn't mean Belcher doesn't kill her at some other time and point. He may have that is why it's not right to blame them for his actions. But we can ask why he was treated differently and demand that it not happen again. They work for us and should be accountable to us.

No, they only work for the big corporations and the 1%

/bump

they should ban alcohol

It's what makes us tolerate me me

was it a high capacity beer?

Only above 3.5%

That's the really dangerous beer.

ROFL

It was Cammo...and we all know those cans make you drink more.

8% beer in a camoflauge can is WAY more dangerous than 5% in a regular can.

semi automatic refill

He was not.

Dozens of potentially drunk people get let go EVERY NIGHT in EVERY CITY in America.

WE NEED A POLICE STATE.

Isn't it obvious?

It's pretty bad when Smed can link an article better than you.

Source?

Personal experience.

Seen it happen dozens of times.

:clap:ROFLROFLROFL

ROFL\
dude, you ever tried Cammo?
good god. I tried on on a dare, and I couldn't even muscle the entire thing down. the only time that's happened with ANY beer.


Plus "Cammo" rhymes with "Ammo".....coincidence?...I think not.

Every night in every city in America? Wow, that is impressive.

God would be impressed with those powers. :D

do the cops joke with them about what they do and how expensive their cars are though?

If you take cat piss, vinegar, and gasoline...mixed it and then drank it....it'd prob taste a lot better than cammo

topped with a little Valvoline
sort of like a Carmel Macchiato at Starbucks.

Yeah, have seen that too. I happened to be riding in a 64 1/2 convertible Mustang though and they only made like 15000 of them.

JasonAuto, Myself, and (gulp) Memyself were saying this when it all went down.

It will get ugly.

LMAO

I don't know where you live most municipalities need the income generated from DUI's.

I have never met anyone who was stopped by the police, while drunk or previously drinking, that wasn't arrested for a DUI.

Belcher, at 245 pounds, would have needed to drink eight beers and have seven 2 ounce shots in a four hour period to reach a BAC of .017.

That's a lot of alcohol.

Nice to meet you.

Now you have.

You shouldn't be able to purchase beer in a pack that holds more than four cans. Anything above that is high capacity and should be banned.

He got off because he was a Chiefs player I know a KCPD officer who said you would be surprised what those guys get away with at clubs.

Say What???

Wow, good thing you didn't get busted.

I would never drink and drive. I always cab it if it's possible I'll drink. Not only is it extremely dangerous, a DUI in L.A. County will run between $15-20k plus the loss of a driver's license for a year.

$20 dollars on a cab is tame in comparison.

beer consumed out of a glass is fine.

beer consumed out of a glass with a handle will be banned.

You ever seen how the cabbies in kc drive?

Well, I rarely make it back there. The last time I was in a cab in KC was probably 1991 or 1992 and it seemed normal to me. Definitely less crazy than Manhattan or Los Angeles.

you ever seen Whitlock drive to Gates?

They drive like ****ing maniacs and clog up the streets **** them.

ROFL