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The Bad Guy 01-18-2013 10:34 AM

Dorsey is on 610
 
Can anyone tune in and update?

ct 01-18-2013 10:37 AM

is it possible there is a qb worth #1?

i haven't fully evaluated, would like to study entire draft and board, need to see how components fit before he can answer that.

Carlota69 01-18-2013 10:37 AM

link?

ct 01-18-2013 10:37 AM

asking about brandon albert

dorsey says it's only been 3.5 days

they are givin him shit, jk tho

ct 01-18-2013 10:38 AM

he won't byte on albert

ct 01-18-2013 10:39 AM

asking aobut clear cut starters (in general, but hinting at qb)

he says always wants conpetitive environment

ct 01-18-2013 10:40 AM

he's not ready to really comment on depth chart and such, wants more time

ct 01-18-2013 10:41 AM

bringing up salary cap, how much do we have to spend to get to minimum?

not appropriate to discuss philosophy of cap strategy/situation. that will show cards too much, this is competitive business, not tipping anyone off

ct 01-18-2013 10:43 AM

kc is dream job, above all other teams?

he says yes, wanna know why? happy wife, happy life

ct 01-18-2013 10:43 AM

that was funny

seriously, he goes into great fans, great community, connects w/ midwest culture, he loves college bb, can't think of anywhere else he wants to be

ct 01-18-2013 10:44 AM

the end

Chiefs=Champions 01-18-2013 10:45 AM

Called Teo Meo.. LMAO

Who thought he was a legit top pick again??

Deberg_1990 01-18-2013 10:46 AM

says hes impressed with Joeckels play on film......

ChiTown 01-18-2013 10:52 AM

Listening to Danny Parkins makes me want to start a gasoline fire in my ear and try to put it out with an ice-pick. JFC, that is awful radio.

siberian khatru 01-18-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9330511)
says hes impressed with Joeckels play on film......

THAT SEALS IT

Chiefnj2 01-18-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9330511)
says hes impressed with Joeckels play on film......

Everyone should be. The guy had a monster season.

tomahawk kid 01-18-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9330518)
Listening to Danny Parkins makes me want to start a gasoline fire in my ear and try to put it out with an ice-pick. JFC, that is awful radio.

And he's an GD symphony compared to Josh Vernier.

Easy 6 01-18-2013 11:02 AM

So basically, its just too soon to bother with any kind of interview.

Goldmember 01-18-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9330518)
Listening to Danny Parkins makes me want to start a gasoline fire in my ear and try to put it out with an ice-pick. JFC, that is awful radio.

How do you think these guys feel after talking to KC's sports media idiots day in and day out? I'm surprised they can keep their cool sometimes.

siberian khatru 01-18-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9330551)
So basically, its just too soon to bother with any kind of interview.

Yep

ptlyon 01-18-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 9330505)
kc is dream job, above all other teams?

he says yes, wanna know why? happy wife, happy life

So shes a bitch???

HolyHat 01-18-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9330561)
So shes a bitch???

She's an attorney so, yes she's probably a bitch

ct 01-18-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9330561)
So shes a bitch???

duh, aren't they all?

I keeed I keeed

Mike in SW-MO 01-18-2013 11:11 AM

Never too soon to be the anti-Pioli. It is too soon for us to expect substantive answers.

Seriously. Nice to see him at least try to build rapport with media & fans.

saphojunkie 01-18-2013 11:15 AM

These guys need to stop asking Reid and Dorsey questions about the Chiefs. The ONLY thing they will get is "we'll have to sit down and take a look sometime between now and the apocalypse."

Just talk about football. Just ask generic football questions. Get them talking about the game - not their team, not their strategy - just the game of football. I guarantee you will get more information out of "Why do you think some guys bust?" than "who are you drafting #1?!"

If you get them talking, they will reveal attitudes, thoughts, opinions that they would never explicitly express when asked for them directly.

ChiefMojo 01-18-2013 11:16 AM

I want a QB and the thought of drafting a LT drives me wild. I have watched Joeckel's vids numerous time and did so critically, but I have to admit he is VERY GOOD! He really doesn't have any glaring weakness and my biggest knock on him is that he could get a little stronger... that is something that can be easily fixed. The kid is a tremendous prospect but again he sadly doesn't play QB!

ChiTown 01-18-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9330576)
These guys need to stop asking Reid and Dorsey questions about the Chiefs. The ONLY thing they will get is "we'll have to sit down and take a look sometime between now and the apocalypse."

Just talk about football. Just ask generic football questions. Get them talking about the game - not their team, not their strategy - just the game of football. I guarantee you will get more information out of "Why do you think some guys bust?" than "who are you drafting #1?!"

If you get them talking, they will reveal attitudes, thoughts, opinions that they would never explicitly express when asked for them directly.

Interviewing is a lost art. The age of microwave information has led most interviewer's to be just short of sounding reeruned.

You've got to get the panties a little wet before you slip it in her. These guys come off like a couple of monkey's trying to **** a football.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9330551)
So basically, its just too soon to bother with any kind of interview.

He'll play that card for awhile, then he will make other excuses.

A gm is just not going to give out certain information.

suds79 01-18-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9330577)
I want a QB and the thought of drafting a LT drives me wild. I have watched Joeckel's vids numerous time and did so critically, but I have to admit he is VERY GOOD! He really doesn't have any glaring weakness and my biggest knock on him is that he could get a little stronger... that is something that can be easily fixed. The kid is a tremendous prospect but again he sadly doesn't play QB!

What drives me nuts is that it'd be a lateral move as our reward for this horrible season.

It'd be like letting Justin Houston go and drafting Jarvis Jones.

:#

ChiefMojo 01-18-2013 11:31 AM

True that is the part that bugs me. Sure Joeckel is a great player but it isn't a position I feel we should be filling... just tag or re-sign Albert IMO!

siberian khatru 01-18-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9330576)
These guys need to stop asking Reid and Dorsey questions about the Chiefs. The ONLY thing they will get is "we'll have to sit down and take a look sometime between now and the apocalypse."

Just talk about football. Just ask generic football questions. Get them talking about the game - not their team, not their strategy - just the game of football. I guarantee you will get more information out of "Why do you think some guys bust?" than "who are you drafting #1?!"

If you get them talking, they will reveal attitudes, thoughts, opinions that they would never explicitly express when asked for them directly.

Excellent

ChiefBoyRDEE 01-18-2013 11:39 AM

Reid never says much of anything, no substance, just a lot of "we'll see" "we will look into it" "we need to do better" "we need to evaluate"

WV 01-18-2013 11:47 AM

Its early and because he doesn't have much to say is why he's doing local radio. He won't be doing any interviews in two months when it would be useful.

suds79 01-18-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefBoyRDEE (Post 9330618)
Reid never says much of anything, no substance, just a lot of "we'll see" "we will look into it" "we need to do better" "we need to evaluate"

Truth be told, has there ever been a GM interview anywhere that was really informative?

They're all filled with non-answers.

Infidel Goat 01-18-2013 11:56 AM

If we think that Joeckel is the best player available, we should definitely show high interest in him.

Teams will trade up for a franchise LT--and if they think we will take him that means that they would have to trade up to the top spot.

If Geno grades out as a top 10 pick, then you probably pull the trigger at the top spot anyway. If he and the rest of the QBs grade out in the end of the first round, trading back is the responsible thing to do.

DaWolf 01-18-2013 12:18 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ll-draft-pick/

Quote:

New Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey has a big decision ahead of him with the first overall pick in the NFL draft. But he wants Chiefs fans to understand that this year’s draft is not like last year’s draft.

Dorsey said on 610 Sports Radio in Kansas City that the 2012 draft, with Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III at the top and a lot of talent beyond those two, was the kind of draft that doesn’t come along every year. Or even every decade.

“That’s one of those drafts that come along every two decades, maybe every three decades, when you have that many impact players,” Dorsey said.

So what about this year? Dorsey says that just because the Chiefs would like to find a franchise quarterback, that doesn’t mean they’re going to draft a quarterback first overall if they don’t determine that there’s a quarterback worthy of going first overall.

“I will never attempt to reach or jump on a player just for need’s sake,” Dorsey said. “We’re not going to do that here.”

Asked if it’s still possible that the Chiefs will stick with Matt Cassel as their starting quarterback in 2013, Dorsey said, “Well, you never say never.”

That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of Cassel. But it also may turn out that Cassel is the best option the Chiefs have.
IE what my predecessor did with Jackson and Poe, yeah, that's why we've got the first overall pick...

Easy 6 01-18-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 9330737)

Whoever wrote that has obviously been getting his butthole molested by iggle fans.

BigMeatballDave 01-18-2013 12:23 PM

It's far too soon to assume what they're doing.

Icon 01-18-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:
New Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey has a big decision ahead of him with the first overall pick in the NFL draft. But he wants Chiefs fans to understand that this year’s draft is not like last year’s draft.

Dorsey said on 610 Sports Radio in Kansas City that the 2012 draft, with Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III at the top and a lot of talent beyond those two, was the kind of draft that doesn’t come along every year. Or even every decade.

“That’s one of those drafts that come along every two decades, maybe every three decades, when you have that many impact players,” Dorsey said.

So what about this year? Dorsey says that just because the Chiefs would like to find a franchise quarterback, that doesn’t mean they’re going to draft a quarterback first overall if they don’t determine that there’s a quarterback worthy of going first overall.

“I will never attempt to reach or jump on a player just for need’s sake,” Dorsey said. “We’re not going to do that here.”

Asked if it’s still possible that the Chiefs will stick with Matt Cassel as their starting quarterback in 2013, Dorsey said, “Well, you never say never.”

That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of Cassel. But it also may turn out that Cassel is the best option the Chiefs have.


Best draft in decades and we come away with Dontari Poe...

Chiefnj2 01-18-2013 12:34 PM

What are these rumors popping up that Albert has a bad back? What's the source?

Kerberos 01-18-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icon (Post 9330756)
Quote:
New Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey has a big decision ahead of him with the first overall pick in the NFL draft. But he wants Chiefs fans to understand that this year’s draft is not like last year’s draft.

Dorsey said on 610 Sports Radio in Kansas City that the 2012 draft, with Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III at the top and a lot of talent beyond those two, was the kind of draft that doesn’t come along every year. Or even every decade.

“That’s one of those drafts that come along every two decades, maybe every three decades, when you have that many impact players,” Dorsey said.

So what about this year? Dorsey says that just because the Chiefs would like to find a franchise quarterback, that doesn’t mean they’re going to draft a quarterback first overall if they don’t determine that there’s a quarterback worthy of going first overall.

“I will never attempt to reach or jump on a player just for need’s sake,” Dorsey said. “We’re not going to do that here.”

Asked if it’s still possible that the Chiefs will stick with Matt Cassel as their starting quarterback in 2013, Dorsey said, “Well, you never say never.”

That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of Cassel. But it also may turn out that Cassel is the best option the Chiefs have.


Best draft in decades and we come away with Dontari Poe...

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

ChiefMojo 01-18-2013 12:41 PM

Cassel is ONLY the best option if we do nothing period with the QB position. We would be throwing out the same only to get the #1 pick next season.

King_Chief_Fan 01-18-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icon (Post 9330756)
Quote:
New Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey has a big decision ahead of him with the first overall pick in the NFL draft. But he wants Chiefs fans to understand that this year’s draft is not like last year’s draft.

Dorsey said on 610 Sports Radio in Kansas City that the 2012 draft, with Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III at the top and a lot of talent beyond those two, was the kind of draft that doesn’t come along every year. Or even every decade.

“That’s one of those drafts that come along every two decades, maybe every three decades, when you have that many impact players,” Dorsey said.

So what about this year? Dorsey says that just because the Chiefs would like to find a franchise quarterback, that doesn’t mean they’re going to draft a quarterback first overall if they don’t determine that there’s a quarterback worthy of going first overall.

“I will never attempt to reach or jump on a player just for need’s sake,” Dorsey said. “We’re not going to do that here.”

Asked if it’s still possible that the Chiefs will stick with Matt Cassel as their starting quarterback in 2013, Dorsey said, “Well, you never say never.”

That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of Cassel. But it also may turn out that Cassel is the best option the Chiefs have.


Best draft in decades and we come away with Dontari Poe...

this isn't going to happen

the Talking Can 01-18-2013 12:49 PM

i dare them to play Cassel

the Reid era would be over after 1 snap...



(and they're not going to keep cassel)

DaWolf 01-18-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9330787)
Cassel is ONLY the best option if we do nothing period with the QB position. We would be throwing out the same only to get the #1 pick next season.

Based on the interview I heard with Holthus and Keitzman yesterday, when Holthus was talking about conversations with Clark Hunt regarding the QB position, I came away 100% convinced that not only would Cassel not be an option moving forward, but that he is going to push for this organization to be more active in trying to find that championship QB.

It may all be Holthus BS, but I am at least convinced Cassel is done...

saphojunkie 01-18-2013 12:57 PM

Okay okay okay... John Dorsey only does BPA.

That's why, after Green Bay had the #32 defense in 2011, they spent their first SIX PICKS on defense in the draft.

Sure. You NEVER factor in need. :rolleyes:

O.city 01-18-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9330835)
Okay okay okay... John Dorsey only does BPA.

That's why, after Green Bay had the #32 defense in 2011, they spent their first SIX PICKS on defense in the draft.

Sure. You NEVER factor in need. :rolleyes:

People see BPA and assume it means best football player available, no matter position.


Position and need are factors into grading players to determine BPA.

Titty Meat 01-18-2013 01:12 PM

.

Rausch 01-18-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9330879)
People see BPA and assume it means best football player available, no matter position.


Position and need are factors into grading players to determine BPA.

You can use the BPA mantra for years and no matter who you pick you can say "that was the next guy up or our big board."

It's ****ing GM speak...

O.city 01-18-2013 01:14 PM

It just doesn't make sense.

What if 3 years in a row, when you come up to draft in the first round, BPA is a Guard?

RunKC 01-18-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9330835)
Okay okay okay... John Dorsey only does BPA.

That's why, after Green Bay had the #32 defense in 2011, they spent their first SIX PICKS on defense in the draft.

Sure. You NEVER factor in need. :rolleyes:

They identified the best defensive players in the draft and took them. Seems like it worked too. Jerel Worthy was pretty good and Casey Hayward was a fantastic pick.

O.city 01-18-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9330903)
They identified the best defensive players in the draft and took them. Seems like it worked too. Jerel Worthy was pretty good and Casey Hayward was a fantastic pick.

Then that isn't BPA. That's factoring in need.

Rausch 01-18-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9330897)
It just doesn't make sense.

What if 3 years in a row, when you come up to draft in the first round, BPA is a Guard?

It's a bull$3it stance, always has been, and will bull$#it you up until we make a decision...

Mr. Arrowhead 01-18-2013 01:20 PM

and then when we pick Geno, he will say he was the top player on their board

Rausch 01-18-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 9330922)
and then when we pick Geno, he will say he was the top player on their board

This...

Ace Gunner 01-18-2013 01:31 PM

this interview was as much fun as all those scooter fests. but I agree with those saying these folks don't know how to interview Dorsey.

Rausch 01-18-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9330813)
i dare them to play Cassel

I dare you to kill yourself...

Hoover 01-18-2013 01:40 PM

I agree, these interviewers need to stop trying to nail these guys down on a chiefs player, or specific person in the draft.

We would learn more from questions like:

What do you look for in a QB in the draft?
What type of offensive linemen do you prefer, why?
What is the most important position on defense?
Is there a position that's easier to fill in FA than the draft?
What positions, on offense or defense, do you think can be game changer?
In the modern NFL, how much time can you give a player you drafted until he needs to produce on the field or get cut?

jimw51 01-18-2013 01:59 PM

Dorsey track record
 
His track record on winning is enough for me to give a chance. I guess we could have kept Peterson or Peolie if you feel otherwise.

Reerun_KC 01-18-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9330813)
i dare them to play Cassel

the Reid era would be over after 1 snap...



(and they're not going to keep cassel)

This!!!!

You trott that out there and Arrowhead will implode...

BUT they will have all you suckers Season ticket money already...

Its a win/win for them Low Risk with winning and High Reward in financials...

Sounds like smart business to me...

chop 01-18-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9330988)
I agree, these interviewers need to stop trying to nail these guys down on a chiefs player, or specific person in the draft.

We would learn more from questions like:

What do you look for in a QB in the draft?
What type of offensive linemen do you prefer, why?
What is the most important position on defense?
Is there a position that's easier to fill in FA than the draft?
What positions, on offense or defense, do you think can be game changer?
In the modern NFL, how much time can you give a player you drafted until he needs to produce on the field or get cut?

This, I agree.

Rasputin 01-18-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel Goat (Post 9330667)
If we think that Joeckel is the best player available, we should definitely show high interest in him.

Teams will trade up for a franchise LT--and if they think we will take him that means that they would have to trade up to the top spot.

If Geno grades out as a top 10 pick, then you probably pull the trigger at the top spot anyway. If he and the rest of the QBs grade out in the end of the first round, trading back is the responsible thing to do.

In the history of the NFL. When has a franchise moved up to the #1 pick to draft a LT????????????? When has a franchise moved up to the #1 pick for any position other than QB??????????

Rambozo 01-18-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9331104)
In the history of the NFL. When has a franchise moved up to the #1 pick to draft a LT????????????? When has a franchise moved up to the #1 pick for any position other than QB??????????

That was before the new rookie cap. No one moved to first last year but, every team from #2 to #7 traded.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9330813)
i dare them to play Cassel

the Reid era would be over after 1 snap...




(and they're not going to keep cassel)

LMAO

BigRedChief 01-18-2013 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9330988)
I agree, these interviewers need to stop trying to nail these guys down on a chiefs player, or specific person in the draft.

It's really stupid. They are not going to lock themselfs into something public. Why would they? They have the #1 pick.

All teams have someone that they love, their must have player. The only way to guarantee that players is yours is have the #1 pick.

If we can go down to #5 and still get Gino and have the the 33rd and 38th pick in the draft, thats a serious win for us.

Hoover 01-18-2013 04:59 PM

You never limit your options.

That means you never commit to drafting a player before the draft. You never say we must resign Albert because his agent will increase the price.

Its all a very complicated game of cards. I have yet to see a poker play announce his cards at the table, even when they have pocket aces.

Easy 6 01-18-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9331418)
Its all a very complicated game of cards. I have yet to see a poker play announce his cards at the table, even when they have pocket aces.

Exactly, thats why this period before the draft is so maddening, its all just a big game of "try to bullshit the bullshitter".

Believe NOTHING right now.

DTLB58 01-18-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9330577)
I want a QB and the thought of drafting a LT drives me wild. I have watched Joeckel's vids numerous time and did so critically, but I have to admit he is VERY GOOD! He really doesn't have any glaring weakness and my biggest knock on him is that he could get a little stronger... that is something that can be easily fixed. The kid is a tremendous prospect but again he sadly doesn't play QB!

Exactly. The only thing wrong with Joeckel is that he doesn't play QB.

If we let Albert walk and draft Joeckel and get a QB some other manner than #1 overall, how many more games are we gonna win? Joeckel VS Albert?

DTLB58 01-18-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9330576)
These guys need to stop asking Reid and Dorsey questions about the Chiefs. The ONLY thing they will get is "we'll have to sit down and take a look sometime between now and the apocalypse."

Just talk about football. Just ask generic football questions. Get them talking about the game - not their team, not their strategy - just the game of football. I guarantee you will get more information out of "Why do you think some guys bust?" than "who are you drafting #1?!"

If you get them talking, they will reveal attitudes, thoughts, opinions that they would never explicitly express when asked for them directly.

:clap:

DTLB58 01-18-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9331427)
Exactly, thats why this period before the draft is so maddening, its all just a big game of "try to bullshit the bullshitter".

Believe NOTHING right now.

You my friend, are exactly right on!

It's not fun, nobody likes to hear it and it squashes all the fun of per-draft talk and assumptions but everything these guys are saying right now is total BS for all the other 31 teams listening get thrown off their trail.


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