I'm calling it now: EJ Manuel will the #1 pick by the Chiefs
 

I know this won't be popular, but I think this will be the guy that the Chiefs pick as their franchise QB. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1) I think mentally and in terms of leadership, this guy will knock it out of the park at the combine. This guy knows real adversity. This past year he played ball and kept his head in the game even though his mother was battling cancer. 2) He doesn't fold during big games. He is only the second college QB in history to win four straight bowl games. 3) He played in a pro-style offense while at FSU. 4) He has the measurables to be a truly franchise QB-- he can both pass and run (if needed) giving our O an added dimension we hadn't had in the past. 5) He isn't afraid of competition; he went to the senior bowl and wound up MVP. 6) The guy is tough as nails; he played with a broken leg during the 2011 Champs Sports Bowl Game in a Victory over Notre Dame.

Yeah, he has quite a few negatives, and a lot of you just flat out hate him--but given Dorsey's comments about how impressed he was with Russell Wilson's interview last year--I think Manuel will give a similar impression of his leadership and maturity to coaches this year.

Reid isn't afraid to take a QB that others rate lower than the consensus; McNabb was the 4th rated QB in his class when Andy drafted him.

While at this point I'd still rather have Geno, I'm prepping myself to like Manuel as I think he has a chnace to be the dark horse pick by the Chiefs. (And no, he won't be there in the second round; I think the senior bowl and the combine will really elevate his stock.)

He isnt going to jump up that high.

I'll be pissed the guy is a choke artist

Outside of Geno and Glennon I've always felt Manuel had the most upside in this draft. But no he wont be the #1 overall. Although he has workout warrior written all over him.

Uh

Poor man's Blaine Gabbert. Pass

I think it's very possible he's the pick at 34.

...They aren't even comparable prospects outside of Size and arm strength.

I'm calling it: They are not taking E.J. Manuel #1 overall.

So he's black Tim Tebow.

**** that.

If we pass on Geno in the first then at 34 I could live with Manuel, but I still wouldn't be happy about it.

I've had close family members battle cancer before, and I kept going to work and performing to a high standard at my job.

Where's my ****ing draft slot? #1 overall pick nao plz

I do think he'll be drafted higher than predicted. Somebody will fall in love with his size and athleticism.

pretty sneaky, sis....
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I think Manuel will be a good QB.

24-6 as a starter; won 4 consecutive bowl games? How so? I hear he is frustratingly inconsistent, but it seems like one way or another he finds ways to win. I'm just curious.

And he absolutely folds in big games. FSU had National Championship type talent, yet always under achieved.


He had alot to do with it.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Physically imposing passer. Throws from the shotgun formation quite often, but is also effective on play action. Flashes the velocity to stretch the field and throw in tight spaces between defenders and on the sideline. Displays good touch on throws to each level of the field, finds receivers between defenders and drop passes over their head. Good athlete with the mobility to step up in the pocket to avoid pressure and take advantage of openings to pick up first downs with his feet. Quick release, though it often looks as though he’s throwing darts on shorter throws. Intelligent, high character team leader.
WEAKNESSES Gives opponents too many chances for turnovers by forcing throws into coverage trying to make a play. Area code accuracy – short throws are often low or wide, preventing receivers from making a play after the catch. Deep ball accuracy is uneven, as well. Gets happy feet under pressure, spins to the outside to avoid the rush. Inconsistent recognizing blitz. Must step into his throws more consistently to fully utilize his arm strength.

NFL COMPARISON Blaine Gabbert

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...uel?id=2539228

I've never fully understood the way of thinking that if a guy goes and plays football while he's dealing with a family issue that it's somehow heroic. An immediate family member death and then playing 5 days or less afterwards would be difficult.

But football is used as an escape from reality for some of these players just as much as it is from a fans standpoint. Dealing with a family member with some form of cancer can be very hard, but going and playing football while said family member is sick is not heroic. It's just how life is.

That comparison is off base and a serious reach by a writer that couldn't think of anything better.

Best of luck with your real estate in rural Florida

LMAO Of course he is. I mean after all, you just said hes nothing like Blaine Gabbert.

Checkout the NC State game in which Glennon "Shined"

He even looks like Culpepper...but without the tiny hands.

No one said he is heroic. Speaking from experience, I can tell you that having someone very close to you having cancer is very distracting. It doesn't mean that other people don't do a good job when someone they love gets cancer. However, not a whole lot of people do their job with hundreds of thousands of people rooting for you or against you--as a young man; those two pressures combined are greater than the sum of their respective parts. Personally, as much as I like Geno as a QB prospect, I don't think he handles pressure very well. He has a bad tendency to throw temper tantrums on the sideline that a lot of people on the board like to dismiss as being "competitive." Perhaps he is just being competitive, I don't know--it just doesn't come off that way to me.

They have some similarities. But I also see similarity in Manuel and Terrelle Pryor, or maybe a little bit of Flacco. That doesn't mean it's a legit comparison. Calling Manuel a poor mans Gabbert is off base.

I just don't think it's something that needs to be taken into account and makes a guy a better prospect because of it. Everything else I get.

Manuel is a 3 or 4th round prospect that will get pushed up based on the SR bowl, the combine and his raw skills.

Not according to Fat Elvis:

I have never heard of E.J. Manuel being a "choke artist." what are you basing your claim on?

I think maturity and the ability to handle adveristy will be really important for any QB selected this year. I odn't think any QB will have out of the box success; I think it will take time for this year's QBs to develop. If they have a history of handling adversity and are mature, I think they will develop into elite QBs over time.

The NC State Game which "Glennon looked like a top 10 pick". Manuel gave that game away.

They lost to NC State and Florida? :shrug:

I wish the best for the kid, but he's got a ways to go and his footwork looks bad to my untrained eye, he looks like a project, and you don't take those 1 overall

I haven't watched nearly any of Manuel but I do recall being more impressed with FSU's backup last year when they played Oklahoma. Other than that, I really haven't watched nearly enough to make an adequate opinion.

I'm down for Nassib or Wilson at 34 if we go that route. They are gonna be good QB's.

No way in hell. That guy is a two year project at minimum.

I agree, but I'm beginning to warm up to the idea of him in the 2nd, if we don't go QB in the 1st. He outclassed all the other QBs in the Senior bowl and his stats are very respectable compared to the top of the QB group:

RunKC has the sight that breaks down his year.

Is it this one?

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/2/...rics-breakdown

Hell, he would most likely be there in the second round. Why would you waste the #1 pick on him?

secondroundstats.com is pretty cool. Not sure if it has a point to it yet though. But definitely informative.

Yeah. Shows he's not a good deep ball guy and his intermediate high accuracy is a mirage.

Guy needs way too much work to be the first overall pick.

If he's Reid's and Dorsey's guy you take him; you don't hope he is there later. I think that has been said about every QB in this draft....

You might be coming away with something different than what the author was saying....

You have to look at the number of attempts in each zone. He had a high percentage in certain zones, because he dind't throw it there as much. When he did, yes he completed it, but it makes for less chances for in completions.

Geno is my number 1. But I have liked EJ alot as a guy in the 3rd. If Dorsey doesnt want Geno 1 and Geno goes to early to trade back up for, then if we took BPA in rd 1 2 and 3 and with comp 3 took EJ it wouldnt be the end of the world

Just watched his game vs Clemson this year. Looked pretty solid.

I'm just through 2 games and I've already seen 4 plays result in either sacks or blown up plays from a slot blitz. It seems to be a combo of poor pickups from the backs and poor recognition pre-snap (they weren't disguised).

If yall draft him, yall need to start up SoC. Or blow up this forum.

Ya cuz he couldnt be any worse than Gabbert

No he is worse. WTF is wrong with yall? Did yall see ANY games he's played? Are you reeruned?

I am starting to really like the idea of the Jags taking EJ in the 2nd round.

No clearly you are reeruned. Did you see any of the Senior Bowl?

This is one of those joke threads right? Not a chance.

Way to call it before the combine buddy!

Really smart move!

LMAO ROFL ROFL ROFL LMAO LMAO LMAO



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This thread is full of stupidity and aids.


This is the type of shit that almost makes those who cry "I'm lleaving forever" understandable.

Anyone but Alex Smith.

nah.. now if you would have said first qb taken by the chiefs then you might be right.

There was a 1% difference between Manuel and Smith on deep passes. If you think EJ sucks on the deep stuff, then you have to come to the same conclusion with Smith (who has two potential first round receivers).

Can you give me the powerball numbers?

Cracks me up when people say , "Well, he had NFL caliber recievers".

Guess what, In the NFL thats what he'll have. NFL caliber recievers. ROFL

this, but not #1

No ****ing way he's #1, and highly doubtful he goes 1st round.

you would have thought he would have learned from you not to do thatROFL

I'd take him in the 3rd.

Not surprised. You obviously don't give a shit about the Jags.

Yes I saw the damn Senior Bowl. Guess what? Everyone only uses the Senior Bowl to evaluate talent and completely throw out all the years of game tape instead. Brilliant take. Screw the Senior Bowl. It did nothing for nobody. It's like at the thought of you guys possibly not getting Geno which I think it's impossible that you won't everyone has gone full reerun in here. After all the shit yall have been through yall give up so easily and start to settle. ****ing stupid.

Double negatives are dumb !

I'd rather have Tyler bray. Manuel can't throw accurately or make good decisions. And you guys have got to stop quoting stats to support your qb. College stats are not that important. Teams like Hawaii & Houston would have more top QBs if stats were that important.

REP! :rockon:

You conveniently left out the number of attempts.

In terms of moving the chains, 25 of 50 attempts over 10 yards is FAR MORE impactful than completing 7 of 10.

I love listening to people that never actually watched Manuel play.

That being said, I could TOTALLY see the Chiefs picking him, especially at #34.

Guess what, those receivers are going to go up against NFL caliber DBs and not Marshall or Baylor.

Yes, but look at the number of attempts.


EJ Manuel only threw it past ten yards 26% of the time. This ties Barkley for the lowest amount in the last two classes. Was that Jimbo Fisher’s offense or Manuel just deciding to hit the easy passes often? Most likely a combination of both.

According to secondroundstats they threw about the same % of passes over 20 yards (as compared to their own total number of passes). In fact, EJ's % was slightly higher.

They are IF you pile them up against SEC teams especially going against BAMA and LSU.

It's all about the competition you are facing.

His stock is rising. Perhaps more than any other QB, but he won't go #1.

Geno Smith threw FOUR HUNDRED more passes than Manuel did over the last 2 seasons.

So you argue for EJ Manuel being among the top QBs in this class, but it's a giant stretch for me to say Ryan Nassib will get taken by some gullible team in the first round.

Gotcha.

He doesn't actually have an opinion. He's just here to play Devil's Advocate.

how's life doing?


everything ok?


you seem a bit 'angry' lately

Life is great.

I am angry but it's 100% related to Chiefs football. :D